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INFO-CPM Digest             Sun,  4 Oct 92       Volume 92 : Issue  105

Today's Topics:
                      CP/M data transfer to DOS
                     Kaypro 4 Master Disks Needed
               MSX terminal/communications prog. needed
                  Re: access with Kaypro IV (2 msgs)
                 Re: Take my computers please - Free.
                           Re: WordStar 4.0
                Re: z80 assembler suggestions desired
                   Transfer cp/m files to elsewhere
                             WordStar 4.0
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Date: 1 Oct 92 19:33:23 GMT
From: wupost!tulane!rouge!aww7112@decwrl.dec.com  (Wiltz Anthony W)
Subject: CP/M data transfer to DOS
Message-ID: <1992Oct1.193323.15433@usl.edu>

I am in search for the easiest method to transfer data from a Xerox 820-II
PC using CP/M version 2.2 operating system to a MS-DOS machine.  The Xerox
machine has only two 8inch Drives with a COMM. and Printer port.  I looked
into the PIP.COM command, but not too sure that it will solve the problem.

After talking with a few people they directed me to XMODEM, which was in use
in the days of CP/M to transfer data between machines (CP/M machines I
presume).  I would need the version of XMODEM which coincides with the CP/M
era.

Thanks in advance for any information submitted.  

Wayne

e-mail:  aww7112@usl.edu

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Date: 4 Oct 92 21:26:08 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!news.cs.indiana.edu!noose.ecn.purdue.edu!news@hplabs.hpl.hp.com  (Keith A Harber)
Subject: Kaypro 4 Master Disks Needed
Message-ID: <1992Oct4.212608.11506@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>

Hi,

I have a Kaypro 4 portable computer, and I need the Master diskettes for
it.  I have the master diskettes for a Kaypro II, which I can use to boot
it, but I seem to have trouble with disk manipulations, and I think it's
because the II masters are SSDD disks, while the drives (I believe) are
DSDD.  In any case, I'd like to have a set of master diskettes that are
DSDD, because if my drive is a SSDD drive, I plan on replacing it with
a DSDD.

Please contact me if you can get me some master diskette copies that are
DSDD.  I'd really appreciate it, since I can't copy, format, or do anything
that uses both of my drives (I don't know for sure if it's the drives or 
the disks, I'm choosing disks for now).

Thanks a lot!

Keith Harber
kharber@ed.ecn.purdue.edu

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Date: 1 Oct 92 08:29:49 GMT
From: eru.mt.luth.se!lunic!sunic!news.funet.fi!cc.tut.fi!kent@bloom-beacon.mit.edu  (Kentt{l{ Marko)
Subject: MSX terminal/communications prog. needed
Message-ID: <1992Oct1.082949.15389@cc.tut.fi>

Any you guys out there have terminal/communications program for MSX ?

Could you E-mail it to me ?

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Date: 4 Oct 92 00:17:52 GMT
From: van-bc!cs.ubc.ca!destroyer!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!silver.ucs.indiana.edu!sl313028@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (O.K. I'm Jon)
Subject: Re: access with Kaypro IV
Message-ID: <BvKM5t.43n@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>

hey, i just gave away my old kaypro II computer to a kid
friend of mine.  he doesn't know too much about computers,
and i guess i'm too lazy to go searching throught the
wuarchives, so i wanted to know if anyone knew of the names
of any good games (text-based or otherwise) and educational
stuff.  the kid is about 14.  


thanx in advance...

jon madison
sl313028@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
(jmmadiso@indyvax.iupui.edu)

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Date: 4 Oct 92 22:57:33 GMT
From: world!bmarcum@uunet.uu.net  (Bill Marcum)
Subject: Re: access with Kaypro IV
Message-ID: <BvMD3y.GvJ@world.std.com>

Most arcade-type games don't work well on a character screen with keyboard
input, but there's a CP/M version of Tetris called T20 that I've enjoyed
playing.  I think I downloaded it from the GEnie CP/M library.

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Date: 4 Oct 92 22:52:26 GMT
From: world!bmarcum@uunet.uu.net  (Bill Marcum)
Subject: Re: Take my computers please - Free.
Message-ID: <BvMCvF.GM7@world.std.com>

What country is ".ie"?  Ireland?  Iceland?

Bill Marcum  bmarcum@world.std.com

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Date: 2 Oct 92 21:31:44 GMT
From: daffodil!wyvern!waggen!alpha@ames.arc.nasa.gov  (Joe Wright)
Subject: Re: WordStar 4.0
Message-ID: <1992Oct2.213144.29241@waggen.twuug.com>

Uwe Nass (UNF315@IBM.RHRZ.UNI-BONN.DE) wrote:
: 
: Hi all,
: 
: I have just read an old release announcement for WordStar 4.0 by
: MicroPro. Up to now, I use version 3.0 (!!) for editing letters
: on my old CP/M computer at home. Since I saw that some nice new
: features are added in version 4.0, I think I should give this
: product a chance, if
: 
:      - somebody can sell me this product with the manuals
: 
:      - the price is okay
: 
: Any hints?
: 
:                                              Thanks in advance
:                                                            Uwe Nass
MicroPro is still in business, somewhere in Northern California. 
Try to call them.  Wordstar 4.0 for CP/M is my choice for 'best'
cp/m editor because it integrates lots of esoteric table-of-contents
and index stuff along with speller and other stuff.  I dunno who can
sell it to you if Micropro won't.  Good luck.


-- 
Joe Wright  alpha@waggen.twuug.com  

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Date: 2 Oct 92 21:19:45 GMT
From: daffodil!wyvern!waggen!alpha@ames.arc.nasa.gov  (Joe Wright)
Subject: Re: z80 assembler suggestions desired
Message-ID: <1992Oct2.211945.28972@waggen.twuug.com>

You can't do better than Al Hawley's ZMAC/ZLNK for $50.
Steve Russel's SLR suite is arguably faster, maybe better
but will cost you $100 or so.  Z80MR etc. just don't come into
view.  If you want something really better than M80/L80, or
RMAC/LINK,  get ZMAC from Al.  

-- 
Joe Wright  alpha@waggen.twuug.com  

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Date: 1 Oct 92 11:30:39 GMT
From: wupost!waikato.ac.nz!aukuni.ac.nz!kcbbs!kc@gumby.wisc.edu  (Richard Plinston)
Subject: Transfer cp/m files to elsewhere
Message-ID: <10292274.41439.1475@kcbbs.gen.nz>

   >>>> 30 cp/m machines .. ICL Quadra

   I assume that you mean ICL Quattro.  These run CDOS 4.1 or 5.1.
   (very early machines had CCP/M 3.1S).  You can write DOS 360Kb
   discettes on these machines as long as they are configured to
   have 'PC-Node' included.  Format some 360Kbs on an IBM AT 1.2
   meg drive   (FORMAT A: /4 on the IBM).

   Set the Quattro to use 360Kb discettes:

               OPTION B:=IBM9

   It may say 'read only' but they write OK.  If it won't do this
   run CONFIG, set PC-MODE on and rebuild system.  Reboot and try
   again.

   PC-ALIEN from FBN-Software in Australia can read native Quattro
   discettes (it has them as ICL Model 35/36 DS 96 TPI).

   I can send you Kermit or Modem7 for Quattro if you wish, send me
   a snail-mail address (postal address) and I'll send a disc.
   

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Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 14:54:45 MEZ
From: Uwe Nass <UNF315@IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>
Subject: WordStar 4.0

Hi all,

I have just read an old release announcement for WordStar 4.0 by
MicroPro. Up to now, I use version 3.0 (!!) for editing letters
on my old CP/M computer at home. Since I saw that some nice new
features are added in version 4.0, I think I should give this
product a chance, if

     - somebody can sell me this product with the manuals

     - the price is okay

Any hints?

                                             Thanks in advance
                                                           Uwe Nass

INTERNET: UNF315@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (131.220.224.1)
BITNET:   UNF315@DBNRHRZ1.BITNET

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INFO-CPM Digest             Tue,  6 Oct 92       Volume 92 : Issue  106

Today's Topics:
                   Adding 5"1/4 to Xerox820II ????
                   Kaypro IIX and comm programs...
                  Re: access with Kaypro IV (2 msgs)
                    Re: CP/M data transfer to DOS
            Re: z80 assembler suggestions desired (2 msgs)
                   Take my computers please - Free.
                              WordStar 4
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Date: 5 Oct 92 15:52:28 GMT
From: eru.mt.luth.se!lunic!sunic!news.funet.fi!news.lut.fi!messmer@bloom-beacon.mit.edu  (Willi Messmer)
Subject: Adding 5"1/4 to Xerox820II ????
Message-ID: <Bvno3I.10y@lut.fi>

I have a Xerox 820-II with the 8" drive package. I would like to add 5"1/4
drives to it. There excists a 5"1/4 package without any extra offboard
controller, is this correct ? The thing I would have to do, make a cable, 
right ?

If it is so, please mail me the pin-out of the diskconnector.

Willi
messmer@lut.fi

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Date: 4 Oct 92 02:28:32 GMT
From: van-bc!rsoft!agate!overload.lbl.gov!dog.ee.lbl.gov!network.ucsd.edu!sdcc12!sdcc13!jcknox@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (James Knox)
Subject: Kaypro IIX and comm programs...
Message-ID: <38966@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>

I have an old Kaypro IIX computer, and I am looking for basic
communications software.  The computer itself has lost its
usefulness to me, but there are some files on it I would like to
offload, and I would like the option to do so in the future.  Are
there any FTP sites (anonymous) that would have such programs?
Thanks for any help.

jcknox@sdcc13.ucsd.edu

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Date: 2 Oct 92 21:04:11 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!newshost.latech.edu!VM.CC.LATECH.EDU!BLICK@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: Re: access with Kaypro IV
Message-ID: <16874D3EB.BLICK@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU>

About a dozen people responded to my requests for suggestions on how to access
Internet with my Kaypro IV computer.
 
Thanks to your suggestions, I have successfully connected.
 
I tried contacting several of you by E-mail, but I couldn't get through, so
please accept my public appreciation for your help. It's nice to be partof
such a helpful group.
 
Eddie Blick
Louisiana Tech University

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Date: 4 Oct 92 20:25:38 GMT
From: van-bc!cs.ubc.ca!destroyer!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.unomaha.edu!cwis.unomaha.edu!haworth@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Dwight A. Haworth)
Subject: Re: access with Kaypro IV
Message-ID: <1992Oct4.202538.16637@news.unomaha.edu>

The best of the games for the II would be the original Adventure game.
It should be available the bbs that still serve the CPM community.
There are other text based adventures and games like STRTRK that use
character graphics.  Some of these require BASIC to run, but that should
 be no problem if you had all of the original Kaypro software.  The
Compuserve Computer Club forum would be a good place to look.

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Date: 2 Oct 92 16:44:14 GMT
From: daffodil!wyvern!waggen!alpha@ames.arc.nasa.gov  (Joe Wright)
Subject: Re: CP/M data transfer to DOS
Message-ID: <1992Oct2.164414.26980@waggen.twuug.com>

My favorite cp/m comm program is Irv Hoff's IMP (Intelligent Modem Program).
It is available on almost all cp/m bbs systems as IMP244, IMP245, ZIMP
or whatever.  IMP supports XMODEM and YMODEM transfers and straight text.
There are others, MEX for example, which do it too.  Virtually all MSDOS
and UNIX systems 'connected' to phone lines will have programs which
support at least the XMODEM protocol.  If you don't want to wire your
CPM and DOS machines to each other, use IMP on your CPM machine to upload
a file to any friendly bbs.  Then use you DOS machine to call the bbs and
download the file.  Easy.
-- 
Joe Wright  alpha@waggen.twuug.com  

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Date: 2 Oct 92 04:57:16 GMT
From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!m2xenix!clark!pacifier!mikef@uunet.uu.net  (Mike Freeman)
Subject: Re: z80 assembler suggestions desired
Message-ID: <1992Oct2.045716.6696@pacifier.rain.com>

In article <9209291629.AA11124@tmpcu.mdc.com> curts@TMPCU.MDC.COM (Curt Schroeder) writes:
>
>Does anyone know of a good freeware/shareware z80 assembler that can produce
>Microsoft compatible .rel (relocatable) object code?
>

There are several fine freeware Z80 assemblers, the most notable of
which are Z80MR and its successors and offshoots (e.g., Z80MRA and
Z1).  However, none of these will generate relocatable files in
MicroSoft .REL format.  Z80MR can be made to generate relocatable
modules but it takes a special linker, PMLINKER, or some such, to link
these modules together to produce an executable program.

As far as I know, looking for a freeware Z80 assembler that generates
MicroSoft .REL files is about as likely to succeed as a quest in search
of the Fountain of Youth.  In other words, I know of no such animal.

-- 
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301 N.E. 107th Street   |         or freeman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu
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Telephone (206)574-8221 |       Loose bits sink chips!

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Date: 2 Oct 92 17:12:08 GMT
From: mentor.cc.purdue.edu!hopf.math.purdue.edu!wilker@purdue.edu  (Clarence Wilkerson)
Subject: Re: z80 assembler suggestions desired
Message-ID: <BvI7sB.5sJ@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>

There is one freeware package, 
look on Simtel20 mirrors under
~cpm/asmutl   :
-rw-rw-r--  1 root        94461 Oct 10  1987 smmaclnk.ark

This written in Small C. It doesn't support the full range of
M80 directives. It doesn't do Common very well. But it does produce
Microsoft format relocatable code.

-- 
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Prof. of Math. (topology)\ Internet:    wilker@math.purdue.edu
Dept. of Mathematics      \ messages:   (317) 494-1903, FAX 494-0548
Purdue University,         \ office:    (317) 494-1955 (voice/modem)
W. Lafayette, Indiana 47907 \ 

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Date: 2 Oct 92 17:05:03 GMT
From: agate!doc.ic.ac.uk!uknet!ieunet!tcdcs!unix1.tcd.ie!jfsenior@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (John Senior)
Subject: Take my computers please - Free.
Message-ID: <jfsenior.718045503@unix1.tcd.ie>

Before I throw them out, I thought I might as well offer these
computers to everyone - A Northstar Advantage with a 5M hard disk
and a broken monitor (that can be easily replaced by someone in
the US whose address I have.) And an Osborne I portable - its
internal monitor is broken but it has a composite video output
which works just fine.  You pay the shipping and they're yours.
I'll give away the manuals etc. to anyone who wants them - but
obviously I'd rather get rid of the whole lot in one go.

Yours,

John.
--
Jfsenior@vax1.tcd.ie in case you were wondering.

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Date: Mon,  5 Oct 92 09:17:26 -0400
From: Jay Sage <sage@ll.mit.edu>
Subject: WordStar 4
Message-ID: <9210050917.AA03308@LL.MIT.EDU>

   Uwe Nass asked about a source for WordStar 4 and Joe Wright replied:

>> MicroPro is still in business, somewhere in Northern California...
>> sell it to you if Micropro won't.

MicroPro is still in business, now under the name WordStar Corporation. 
However, they no long sell WordStar for CP/M.  They sold the rights to the
following company:

                Trio Company
                P.O. Box 594
                3290 Genesee Street
                Cheektowaga, NY  14225-0594
                716-892-9630

For Uwe, I have even better news.  You can probably get a copy from a local
dealer in Germany.  Contact Helmut Jungkunz at the following Internet
address: "jungkunz@doitcr.doit.sub.org".  I recommend that anyone in Europe
looking for software -- commercial or public domain -- or any other
assistance with CP/M talk to Helmut.

-- Jay Sage


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INFO-CPM Digest             Thu,  8 Oct 92       Volume 92 : Issue  107

Today's Topics:
                         Kaypro IV w/Plus 88
                            Re: C Compiler
                 Re: Take my computers please - Free.
                           televideo ts-806
                      televideo ts806/20 info r
                             wordstar 4.0
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Date: 4 Oct 92 02:14:00 GMT
From: ub!acsu.buffalo.edu!ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu!v062l48d@rutgers.edu  (Harold J Screven)
Subject: Kaypro IV w/Plus 88
Message-ID: <BvKrJo.8Is@acsu.buffalo.edu>

I Have a Kaypro IV with the Plus 88 board installed and I never
bothered to upgrade the copy of MS-DOS to a newer version, It's 
still in the 1.X version.  The board was manufactured by a company
named SWP I think.  If anyone out there knows of the whereabouts
of a later version of MS-DOS I would be grateful. Thanks.

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Date: 8 Oct 92 11:01:41 GMT
From: think.com!paperboy.osf.org!david@uunet.uu.net  (David George)
Subject: Re: C Compiler
Message-ID: <1992Oct8.110141.24484@osf.org>

In article <1992Oct8.001333.17472@mccc.edu>, pjh@mccc.edu (P. J. Holsberg) writes:
|> Hi. I'm looking for a CP/M C compiler that will produce ROMmable code.
|> Any suggestions?

The professional version of the Aztec C compiler will do this.  It's quite
a good compiler.

David.

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Date: 3 Oct 92 20:20:16 GMT
From: think.com!sdd.hp.com!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!grian!morris@ames.arc.nasa.gov  (Mike Morris)
Subject: Re: Take my computers please - Free.
Message-ID: <1992Oct3.202016.22957@grian.cps.altadena.ca.us>

jfsenior@unix1.tcd.ie (John Senior) writes:

>Before I throw them out, I thought I might as well offer these
>computers to everyone - A Northstar Advantage with a 5M hard disk
>and a broken monitor (that can be easily replaced by someone in
>the US whose address I have.) And an Osborne I portable - its
>internal monitor is broken but it has a composite video output
>which works just fine.  You pay the shipping and they're yours.
>I'll give away the manuals etc. to anyone who wants them - but
>obviously I'd rather get rid of the whole lot in one go.

It'd be nice to know where you are (i.e. if you're local for pickup,
or to do a guesstimate on shipping cost...)

-- 
Mike Morris   WA6ILQ   | This space intentionally left blank.
PO Box 1130            | 
Arcadia, CA. 91077     | All opinions must be my own since nobody pays
818-447-7052 evenings  | me enough to be their mouthpiece...

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Date: 4 Oct 92 01:52:12 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!spool.mu.edu!darwin.sura.net!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!unixbox!dosgate!dosgate![blair.groves%canrem.com]@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (blair groves)
Subject: televideo ts-806
Message-ID: <1992Oct3.4443.2970@dosgate>

to: jfoy@glia.biostr.washington.edu

Hi Jeff, I tried to send you mail in reply to your message on FIDO, but
this node's FIDONET isn't transmitting yet... AARRGGHH!!!

Anyways, I am Sysop of TeleVideo Station BBS, (416)-507-9608, and you
can contact me voice (416)-507-9606, if you have any further questions
after I explain a few details...

The TS-806/20 has a built-in hard disk, 20 megs unformatted, (but who
uses unformatted hard disks?), 15 megs formatted. That's a good start,
but you might want to install a larger MFM drive. I have two Seagate
ST251-1 drives in a clone tower case, along with the TS-806 motherboard
and hard disk controller...  I run the BBS off a TS-800A connected to
it, and have four other workstations including three CP/M TeleVideo
computers and a MS-DOS machine with TeleVideo's RS-422 card. The sixth
connection has a TS-806C cartridge tape backup unit connected. This is a
great system with lots of potential.

For software, you can run TeleVideo's MMMOST, Software-2000's TurboDOS,
or CBIS's Network-OS. MMMOST is standard issue, and not very friendly or
capable. TurboDOS is very powerful but not too friendly either. CBIS's
Network-OS (my choice) is powerful and easy to use. It let me easily
configure it for different sizes and quantities of hard disks, (up to
four hard disks can run on *certain* TS-806 hard disk controllers), and
there is a patch provided to automatically load time and date to the
system from a Hayes Chronograph on starting the network.

Starting the network... well, its done by RS-422 obviously, and all 15
pins are required, wired straight through. Use round-jacket cable
(twisted pair will give you extended distance), standard 22 guage
stranded core cable. The workstations will auto-boot off the TS-806,
after the network has been started.

Your workstations in all probability are really TeleVideo TS-800A's with
925 keyboards... (the TS-800A, Model 925 and Model 950 terminals all use
the same parts 'cept for the motherboard), you can determine if they are
merely dumb terminals or TS-800A workstations by looking at the rear
panels: if there are only two DB-25 RS-232 connectors and the keyboard
jack, they are indeed dumb terminals. If they have two DB-25 RS-232
connectors, the keyboard jack, *and* a 15 pin RS-422 connector, then you
have TS-800A's.

I can send you lots of information on these beasties, (copies of
manuals, literature sheets, etc... and there are also bulletins and
articles on my BBS (see above), to fill in other details. Also, Sharon
Industries, in San Jose California, (408)-456-1600, can supply you with
parts, manuals, new and used machines etc... Ask for Terry, he has
helped me with a lot of things.

There are a lot of things that I can tell you that you might want to
know, so feel free to give me a ring any time (days/nights) at the above
voice number too.

        /B/

blair.groves@canrem.com
---
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044

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Date: 5 Oct 92 04:59:46 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!unixbox!dosgate!dosgate![blair.groves%canrem.com]@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (blair groves)
Subject: televideo ts806/20 info r
Message-ID: <19924.4443.2984@dosgate>

Don Maslin writes:

.
-> I think that the 'Winch' slots you mention are probably for an
-> external drive.  There should be an internal one.  Also, on the back
-> panel should be a 25 pin connector marked Terminal.  On the machine
-> that I have seen, this was for the 'master' terminal - the others
-> were for 'slave' or 'satellite' terminals.

This is accurate. The Winch data and control openings are for the
external second hard disk unit (MFM 5.25" ST-412/506 interface). The
internal drive came in 10, 15, and 40 meg varieties.

There are two RS-232 connectors: one for the console terminal, the other
generally used for a serial printer (I use it for a Hayes Chronograph),
and a standard 36-pin Centronics parallel port.

The remaining six connectors are RS-422 NETWORK connections, DB-15, at
800Kbps, over 500 feet, (some have run 1000 feet long). The RS-422
connections are for Networked Workstations that boot off the TS-806.
These can be any TS-800, 800A, 801, 802, 803, 804, TPC (portable),
remote workstation processor (RWP), CP/M-86 TS-1603, or even a MS-DOS
workstation with TeleVideo's RS-422 card. A tape cartridge drive also
can plug in at the sixth workstation port.

Each Workstation is a full-fleged computer, that runs the applications
stored on the TS-806's hard disk(s), in workstation memory, and can
print on local or TS-806 attached printers.

Operating systems for the TS-806 include CP/M 2.2 with TeleVideo's
MMMost network software, Software 2000's TurboDOS, and CBIS's
Network-OS.

Anyone who needs help with any TeleVideo CP/M computer is more than
welcome to send me E-mail, at the following:

        blair.groves@canrem.com

Blair
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044

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Date: 5 Oct 92 15:16:26 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!unixbox!dosgate!dosgate![ray.whidden%canrem.com]@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (ray whidden)
Subject: wordstar 4.0
Message-ID: <1992Oct5.4443.2986@dosgate>

In an article from Joe Wright:

JW>MicroPro is still in business, somewhere in Northern California.
JW>Try to call them.  Wordstar 4.0 for CP/M is my choice for 'best'
JW>cp/m editor because it integrates lots of esoteric table-of-contents
JW>and index stuff along with speller and other stuff.  I dunno who can
JW>sell it to you if Micropro won't.  Good luck.

A year or more ago, Micropro officially changed their name to WORDSTAR, 
INC.  I doubt you'd be able to find them by the old name now.

Regards, Ray

Internet: ray.whidden@canrem.com : RIME    : ->CRS : 46 Campania Crescent,
UUCP: canrem!ray.whidden FidoNet: 1:229/15  : Scarborough, Ontario M1V 2E9

 * DeLuxe2 1.21 #4419 * Blue Jays all the way in 1992
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044

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INFO-CPM Digest             Fri,  9 Oct 92       Volume 92 : Issue  108

Today's Topics:
                     Help with DECmate II / CP/M
                  Help with DECmate II running CP/M
              Information on the SEEQUA CHAMELEON Wanted
              Is KA9Q still available for CP/M systems?
        Re: Is KA9Q still available for CP/M systems? (2 msgs)
                            Re: WordStar 4
                           Re: WordStar 4.0
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 9 Oct 92 21:29:09 GMT
From: bytex!bytex.bytex.com!robd@uunet.uu.net  (Robert Driscoll @ws027)
Subject: Help with DECmate II / CP/M
Message-ID: <1992Oct9.212909.11817@bytex.com>

I recently sent a posting looking for software packages (MBASIC,
Multiplan) that run on CP/M, and documentation.
    I was also looking for general info on CP/M -- any kind of
documentation/utilities.
    I was also inquiring about info for a Digital LA50 printer.

    I accidentilly gave a wrong e-mail addres.
    If anyone can help me plese send e-mail.

    	    	    	Robert Driscoll, BYTEX Corp.
    	    	    	4 Technology Drive,  Westboro, MA 01581-1760
                        UUCP: {...}uunet!bytex!robd
                        Internet:robd@bytex.com

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Date: 8 Oct 92 19:24:19 GMT
From: bytex!bytex.bytex.com!robd@uunet.uu.net  (Robert Driscoll @ws027)
Subject: Help with DECmate II running CP/M
Message-ID: <1992Oct8.192419.8855@bytex.com>

    I have just inherited a DECmate II running CP/M, with an LA50
printer. Included is a Word processor WPS which seems pretty good.
    I have no documentation for CP/M or for the printer. I would be 
greatful if someone could suggest where I could obtain these, or 
where I might start looking. 
    This system can also run MBASIC and MULTIPLAN software 
packages compatible with CP/M. I would like to know if there is
anyplace where I can get this software and associated documentation.

    If anyone has information that may be helpful to my quest please 
send me e-mail.
--
    	    	    	    	    Robert Driscoll, BYTEX Corp.
    	    	    	    	    4 Technology Drive,  Westboro, MA 01581-1760
    	    	    	    	    UUCP: {...}uunet!bytex!robd
    	    	    	    	    Internet:robd@bytex.bytex.com

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Date: 8 Oct 92 16:09:33 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!ccwf.cc.utexas.edu@hplabs.hpl.hp.com  (The Monster of Peladon)
Subject: Information on the SEEQUA CHAMELEON Wanted
Message-ID: <81304@ut-emx.uucp>

Greetings:

	I've just aquired a Seequa Chameleon portable/luggable/transportable/b 
boat anchor.  It can run CP/M or Messy-DOS, and I'd like to run CP/M on it, be-
cause it has limited memory, and because I like CP/M.  Can anyone out there p  
please email me, and tell me how to aquire system disks for this mighty mite?
I've already looked in the archive thingie in California, emailed a fellow that
says that he has sysdisks, and havn't heard from him.  So I'm putting out a 
general call.  Does anyone know where I can aquire CP/M system disks?
	Also, I'd like any other information that anyone may have on the Seequa
Chameleon.  Anyone else out there have one?  Any information on the Chameleon 
would be very much apreciated.  Please email me at:

	aggedor@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu

				Thanks!

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Date: 7 Oct 92 11:11:06 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!torn!maccs!eismv3.dofasco.ca!eis.dofasco.ca!fraser_h@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: Is KA9Q still available for CP/M systems?
Message-ID: <1992Oct7.111106.1@eis.dofasco.ca>

Many times I've seen mention that KA9Q was originally developed for
Z80 CPM systems. Is that original distribution still available anywhere?

-- 
Hugh Fraser					Dofasco Inc.
(fraser_h@eis.dofasco.ca)			1330 Burlington St East
(416)544-3761 X6941				Hamilton, Ont. L8N 3J5 Canada

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Date: 8 Oct 92 17:22:00 GMT
From: atha!aupair.cs.athabascau.ca!tech@decwrl.dec.com  (Richard Loken)
Subject: Re: Is KA9Q still available for CP/M systems?
Message-ID: <tech.718564920@aupair.cs.athabascau.ca>

fraser_h@eis.dofasco.ca writes:

>Many times I've seen mention that KA9Q was originally developed for
>Z80 CPM systems. Is that original distribution still available anywhere?

If you should stumble across a copy I would dearly love to see it.

Mr. Karn has a religious objection to CP/M and waxes rhetorical about 8 bits
and TCP/IP when the subject comes up.  The song is to the effect that 8 bits
are dead and gone and XT boards can be had loaded for $50.00.  Phil aparantly
has the floppies in his garage but intends to leave them there.

Ironically the tcp-group has been tearing itself apart on a similar vein over
the last year.  To whit, NOS and DOS have overstayed their welcome so why use
them when you can get a 40 MHz 386 machine fully configured for $1500.00 
Canadian and run Unix with native TCP/IP.  I notice the "get out of the
dark ages" rhetoric is less warmly received when it is directed at NOS instead
of CP/M.

I think the demise of NOS and DOS is inevitable as a true operating system
that will handle lots of memory for Intel chips becomes popular.  At that
time NOS, which is as much a task scheduler as a TCP/IP package will be out
moded by TCP/IP services that are written to run under the control of said
OS.  Rumours that Microsoft are going to dump DOS as it now is known are 
starting to crop up - it may be called DOS and look like DOS to they the user
but the similarity will end there.

Hmmppph.  The uninitiated would think I knew what I was talking about but I
am sure many of you can see through the smoke and mirrors.

--
  Richard Loken VE6BSV                             : "ISDN (acronym)
  Athabasca University, Athabasca, Alberta Canada  : Innovations 
  tech@cs.AthabascaU.CA                            : Subscribers Don't Need."
  {atha|aunro}!cs.athabascau.ca!tech               : - some sorehead or other

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Date: 9 Oct 92 20:43:40 GMT
From: ogicse!mintaka.lcs.mit.edu!hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu!regnad@decwrl.dec.com  (Paul Prescott)
Subject: Re: Is KA9Q still available for CP/M systems?
Message-ID: <1992Oct9.204340.15832@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu>

I have never understood the basis for the apparently widely held philosophy
of "upgrade, or throw away your computer".  The existence of this newsgroup
at least shows that I'm not alone in my confusion.  :)  I still use 4MHz
Z80 computers every day.  I've been playing with the idea of "upgrading" one
to 8MHz. (Which I may very well take up more seriously after I finish building
the partially assembled Heathkit H89 I was recently given.)  I find these
machines to be quite adequate for my computing and communications needs.

I have also just gotten involved with amateur packet radio, but find the
"standard" 1200 baud AX.25 system to be a bit too slow for my liking.  For
about $100 I can upgrade my TNC to support 9600 baud KISS mode, and I already
have an old transceiver just begging to be put to use in this sort of service,
but without TCP/IP software for any of my computers I'm pretty much stuck right
where I am.  Shelling out a few hundred dollars (or more) for a new (or
"newer", anyway) computer simply isn't a justifiable option.

I realize it is rediculous to expect any kind of serious support for every
orphaned computer in existance, but if the software already exists, it seems
rather a shame that it is not made available.


Paul Prescott
N1AAC
regnad@gnu.ai.mit.edu
(Someone with lots more time than money, at the moment.)

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Date: 6 Oct 92 12:18:22 GMT
From: noc.near.net!bigboote.WPI.EDU!bigwpi.WPI.EDU!ear@uunet.uu.net  (Mr. Neat-O [tm])
Subject: Re: WordStar 4
Message-ID: <1as06eINN4du@bigboote.WPI.EDU>

In article <9210050917.AA03308@LL.MIT.EDU> sage@LL.MIT.EDU (Jay Sage) writes:
>MicroPro is still in business, now under the name WordStar Corporation. 
>However, they no long sell WordStar for CP/M.  They sold the rights to the
>following company:

I was under the impression that MicroPro was now Wordstar International. 

Also, my father's computer business still has a few copies of Wordstar 4.0
for CP/M for sale still in the original shrink wrapped boxes.  He obtained
them from WordStar Intl. only last year.  If anyone is interested, I will
email them the name/phone number/address of the business.  (It's located in
Massachusetts)

+---------< Eric A. Rasmussen - Mr. Neat-O (tm) >---------+ +< Email Address >+
|   A real engineer never reads the instructions first.   | | ear@wpi.wpi.edu |
|   (They figure out how it works by playing with it.)    | | ear%wpi@wpi.edu |
+---------------------------------------------------------+ +-----------------+
                     ((( In Stereo Where Available )))

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Date: 6 Oct 92 05:10:44 GMT
From: ub!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.unomaha.edu!cwis.unomaha.edu!haworth@rutgers.edu  (Dwight A. Haworth)
Subject: Re: WordStar 4.0
Message-ID: <1992Oct6.051044.9662@news.unomaha.edu>

Micropro is now in business as Wordstar, Intnl.  Their address is
201 Alameda del Prado, Novato, CA 94949.  They should be able to
help; as the previous writer said, if they can't sell you a copy,
no one can!!

---- Dwight Haworth   haworth@cwis.unomaha.edu

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Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #109
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INFO-CPM Digest             Mon, 12 Oct 92       Volume 92 : Issue  109

Today's Topics:
                              C Compiler
                         cpm and commodore 64
                       Need info on NEC APC-III
                    Re: CP/M data transfer to DOS
                 Re: Osborne Vixen System Disk Wanted
            Re: Televideo TS806/20 Info Requested (2 msgs)
                      Re: WordStar 4.0 for CP/M
                      terminal prog. for kaypro
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 8 Oct 92 00:13:33 GMT
From: mccc!pjh@princeton.edu  (P. J. Holsberg)
Subject: C Compiler
Message-ID: <1992Oct8.001333.17472@mccc.edu>

Hi. I'm looking for a CP/M C compiler that will produce ROMmable code.
Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Pete

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Date: 12 Oct 92 08:18:59 GMT
From: ucsbcsl!ucsbuxa!6500hage@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (William F. Hagen)
Subject: cpm and commodore 64
Message-ID: <5994@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu>

Hi all, for those of you that remember the cpm and the commodore 
64, I have a question. I have just obtained a cpm cartridge for my
c64, and would like to run cpm on it. I need to know where I can get a terminal program on c64 cpm compatible diskettes, then where can I get cpm software that can run on the c64. Supposedly kcpm software is computer independant but i think that was a problem with the {c64.
Any help would be appreciated.

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Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 21:36:24 EDT
From: eudoh@st6000.sct.edu (Etop Udoh)
Subject: Need info on NEC APC-III
Message-ID: <9210110136.AA17623@st6000.sct.edu>

hi,

  Recently acquired a NEC APC-III with no software or documentation
and don't know anything about this beast.....
 anybody out there have any info or software for this thing....

-- 
.....................................................................
:    Etop Udoh                             Eudoh@sct.edu            :
:    3210 Hudson Rd.               Southern College of Technology   :
:    Marietta, Ga 30060                   Marietta, Georgia         :
:                                                                   :
:      Abandon all hope ye who have entered  " CYBERSPACE "         :
:...................................................................:

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Date: 6 Oct 92 21:11:57 GMT
From: noc.near.net!news.cs.brandeis.edu!binah.cc.brandeis.edu!BURT@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Re: CP/M data transfer to DOS
Message-ID: <1992Oct6.211157.6566@news.cs.brandeis.edu>

If you have xmodem on both machines, and a null modem cable to connect 
them, xmodem will work nicely. There are also programs which enable 
IBM machines to read CP/M disk formats.
John Burt

------------------------------

Date: 29 Sep 92 04:35:30 GMT
From: portal!cup.portal.com!Jeffry_A_Mickey@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Re: Osborne Vixen System Disk Wanted
Message-ID: <66808@cup.portal.com>

>
>      I'm looking for a System Disk for the OSBORNE VIXEN.  Will
>      pay costs of media, mailer, and postage.
>
>      Keeper of the CP/M System Disk Archive for the Dino(saur)-SIG
>      of the San Diego Computer Society          donm@crash.cts.com
>

 		Disks for the Vixen are no problem, and no charge.
Where do I send them?
				jeff Mickey

	jmic@cup.portal.com

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Date: 29 Sep 92 05:29:26 GMT
From: crash!donm@nosc.mil  (Don Maslin)
Subject: Re: Televideo TS806/20 Info Requested
Message-ID: <1992Sep28.222927.7088@crash>

I think that the 'Winch' slots you mention are probably for an external 
drive.  There should be an internal one.  Also, on the back panel should
be a 25 pin connector marked Terminal.  On the machine that I have seen, 
this was for the 'master' terminal - the others were for 'slave' or 
'satellite' terminals.

I have a couple of disks with the MmmOST files on them, but neither are 
bootable.  I'd be very interested in a copy of a CP/M 2.2 system disk if
you get one, and also a bootable TurboDOS floppy if someone runs across
one.

 
      Keeper of the CP/M System Disk Archive for the Dino(saur)-SIG
      of the San Diego Computer Society          donm@crash.cts.com
 

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Date: 29 Sep 92 08:13:13 GMT
From: mcsun!sun4nl!freya.let.rug.nl!rug4!laverman@uunet.uu.net  (Bert Laverman)
Subject: Re: Televideo TS806/20 Info Requested
Message-ID: <1992Sep29.081313.21253@cs.rug.nl>

Jeff Foy writes:
> Today I was given a system that is tagged as TS-806/20.
Hey, here we go again. The Televideo's seem to be in their retirement phase ;-)

> I'm assuming, at 
> least for the moment, that it is a TS-806 computer with a 20 meg hard 
> drive. (I know there's a hard drive but I've not been able to determine 
> what kind it is yet)
Correct. The TS806-10 had a 10Mb drive. Actually, you'll have only 17MB
to use. :-(

> The system came with five TeleVideo 925 terminals with keyboards.
Thos should be TS800-A's, which are full Z80 systems, but without disks.

> According to what little info came with the system, it seems to run a 
> network-type system called MmmOST with CP/M R 2.2.
Mmmost is a program that runs on the 806, and takes care of the 800's disk I/O.
It also provides a rough form of protection, and some printer spooling.

> Ok, the problems:
>  1) No boot disk. (5.25" floppy drive so assuming this should be a 5.25" 
>     floppy diskette -- about 368k I'd imagine.
It should boot from the HD. Press the reset button again immediately after
booting if it tries to boot from floppy.

>  2) No cable for the hard drive. Two openings on the rear of the machine 
>     are labeled WINCH (DATA)  and  WINCH (CONTROL). I'm assuming this is 
>     where the cable is supposed to snake through.
??? The HD should be inside the 806 case.

>  3) The cables for the workstation terminals had been severed so I'll 
>     probably need new ones. They seem to be RS-422 D-style connections 
>     (15-pins).
As far as I know that is the case.

> The questions:
> 
>  1) Where can I get a boot disk either with or without MmmOST? Cost?
If noone in your neighbourhood can help you, I'll send a copy.

>  2) Where can I get an appropriate hard drive cable? Cost?
I'm not sure. I had a 806/20, but it was scrapped when the HD gave out.
Maybe the cables are still somewhere...

>  3) Will any RS-422 cables work? If not, where can I get the right type 
>     for this setup?
I can check the hardware manual if you like.

> The sooner I can get this system online, the sooner I can finish up CP/M 
> ZIP as my other CP/M system (BMC if800) bit the big one about three 
> weeks ago.
As I said, Help in the states would be fastest, but I'm available as
backup :-)

Greetings, Bert
-- 
#include <std/disclaimer>

  Bert Laverman,  Dept. of Computing Science, Groningen University
  Friendly mail to: laverman@cs.rug.nl      The rest to: /dev/null

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Date: 28 Sep 92 19:27:43 GMT
From: sun-barr!olivea!spool.mu.edu!sdd.hp.com!caen!uwm.edu!ogicse!news.u.washington.edu!glia!jfoy@ames.arc.nasa.gov  (Jeff Foy)
Subject: Re: WordStar 4.0 for CP/M
Message-ID: <jfoy.717708463@glia>

In <1a6p2uINN16o@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ac959@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ed Grey) writes:

>I am trying to install WS4.0, on a TeleVideo 803H, using the
>printer driver for the Epson FX-85.  When I try to print, I keep
>getting an error message saying that I don't have enough memory
>or it cannot find the printer driver.  Qustions:

Ed, is WordStar talking directly to the printer or is it going through
the BIOS (or BDOS)? I remember having this same problem when I was
using 4.0 on CP/M. Removing all the other drivers (ASCII, DRAFT, blah,
blah) helped me.
 
-- 
Jeffery Foy -- Either: jfoy@glia.biostr.washington.edu -or-
                       foysys!jeffery@cs.washington.edu
             *** FREE BILL & KATHY SWAN ***
-*- Happy as a clam to be using Professional YAM -*-  :)

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Date: 11 Oct 92 19:47:34 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!nic.umass.edu!hamp.hampshire.edu!jmolinari@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: terminal prog. for kaypro
Message-ID: <1992Oct11.154734.1@hamp.hampshire.edu>

	Hello!  Could anybody provide me with a ready-to-run terminal
emulator for a Kaypro II?  I'm having trouble uncompressing the .czm file
(I've only had it for a few weeks and it's just sitting there because I can't
decompress the file).
	So, in other words, what I need is a program that will decompress a
.czm file, or the uncompressed term-ulator itself.

			Thank you!

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Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #110
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INFO-CPM Digest             Thu, 15 Oct 92       Volume 92 : Issue  110

Today's Topics:
                      ftp-server for cpm stuff ?
                       Osborn I and alien discs
                                 Re:
                   Re: Kaypro 4 Master Disks Needed
                      Re: WordStar 4.0 for CP/M
                 Recover files like program.czm (_?_)
               Will CP/M software work on any CP/M ???
                        z80 c cross compilers
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Date: 12 Oct 92 21:26:39 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!Sirius.dfn.de!dct.zrz.tu-berlin.de!zrz.tu-berlin.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!elwood!runner.prz.tu-berlin.de!nicolai@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Nicolai Leymann)
Subject: ftp-server for cpm stuff ?
Message-ID: <4112@elwood.prz.tu-berlin.de>

Dear Netters,

Some weeks ago, I bought an EPSON PX-8 laptop running cpm 2.2. Now I'm 
looking for software (especially kermit). Does anybody knows a ftp-site
with cpm programms ? Please respond via email, because I'm not reading
this newsgroup regular (yet ?).

       Thanks in advance

            Nic
-- 
Nicolai Leymann                           email: nicolai@prz.tu-berlin.de
Systemadministrator                       phone: +49-30-314-25790
Technical University of Berlin              fax: +49-30-314-21114

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Date: 12 Oct 92 17:50:20 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ira.uka.de!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!ifi!news@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Weber)
Subject: Osborn I and alien discs
Message-ID: <1992Oct12.175020.11532@ifi.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de>

I would like to read CP/M 86 single side discs with
an Osborn I. I know how diskparameters work. The problem
is, the Osborn I format has 1024 bytes sectors, CP/M 86
has 512 bytes sectors.
How can I make the Osborn read 512 bytes sectors?
(I was too lazy to disassemble the bios)
If I change the disk parameters of one drive it affects
the other one too 8-(

-- 

Juergen G. Weber
Student am Institut fuer Informatik
Universitaet Stuttgart - Germany

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Date: 13 Oct 92 15:13:52 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!keele!nott-cs!lut.ac.uk!eljh@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Re:
Message-ID: <1992Oct13.151352.5017@lut.ac.uk>

Hi guys, can anyone help me.
Someone I know has fitted a 3.5" disk drive to an Amstrad cpm/w machine.
The want to be able to read&write msdos disks.  What software is available
for it?  I've got s/w that might be able to read/write the amstrad disks
(yet to be tried), but not vice-versa.

Thanks for any help.

Jamie
______________________________________________________________________________
To Err is Human    | Email  J.Hunter@uk.ac.lut	| Mr Jamie Hunter
But to foul things | Dept   Electronic Eng. 	| 23 Salisbury St, Long Eaton
up completely....  | Room   W1.72		| Nott's NG10 1BA, England
Requires UNIX!     | Phone  +44 509 263171x4176 | +44 602 732452    <><
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Date: 9 Oct 92 00:19:20 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!caen!sdd.hp.com!news.cs.indiana.edu!umn.edu!kraken!george@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Rogers George)
Subject: Re: Kaypro 4 Master Disks Needed
Message-ID: <1992Oct9.001920.23665@news2.cis.umn.edu>

In article <1992Oct4.212608.11506@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> kharber@ecn.purdue.edu (Keith A Harber) writes:

>I have a Kaypro 4 portable computer, and I need the Master diskettes for
>it.
...
>Please contact me if you can get me some master diskette copies that are
>DSDD.  I'd really appreciate it, since I can't copy, format, or do anything
>that uses both of my drives (I don't know for sure if it's the drives or 
>the disks, I'm choosing disks for now).

MEEE TOOOO!!!!!
a Kaypro 4 has been recently liberated (legally [somewhat]) from
Macalester College, and now lives in my basement. I would really enjoy
boot disks...

>Keith Harber
>kharber@ed.ecn.purdue.edu >

Rogers George (in that order)
geor0007@student.tc.umn.edu

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Date: 29 Sep 92 16:00:45 GMT
From: daffodil!wyvern!waggen!alpha@g.ms.uky.edu  (Joe Wright)
Subject: Re: WordStar 4.0 for CP/M
Message-ID: <1992Sep29.160045.29282@waggen.twuug.com>

Ed Grey (ac959@cleveland.Freenet.Edu) wrote:
: 
: I am trying to install WS4.0, on a TeleVideo 803H, using the
: printer driver for the Epson FX-85.  When I try to print, I keep
: getting an error message saying that I don't have enough memory
: or it cannot find the printer driver.  Qustions:
:  
: 1.  How much memory is needed?  I've tried with as much as 59K.
: 2.  Is this a normal problem when trying to install a driver for
:     a full featured printer?  
: 3. Is there a way around this problem?
:    
: Thanks, any help, information and/or suggestions regarding WS4.0
: will be greatly appreciated.  I've been happy with WS3.3 and only
: now am I considering switching because I wanted to use additional
: features of my printer.  Take care.
:    
:     
: NOTE: I've tried using CP/M 2.2, CP/M 3.0 and Z-system.  The symtoms
: don't change.
:    
Use wschange to create a smaller WSPRINT.OVR containing only the
drivers you need.

-- 
Joe Wright  alpha@waggen.twuug.com  alpha@wyvern.twuug.com

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Date: 15 Oct 92 03:07:32 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!news.cs.indiana.edu!news.orst.edu!lantis@hplabs.hpl.hp.com  (David Lantis)
Subject: Recover files like program.czm (_?_)
Message-ID: <Bw57Cn.3DK@news.orst.edu>

I have some files (downloaded from ftp site) that have the form
program.czm and wish to know what compression/archive utility is
required to restore them.  I assume suffixes like czm are similar to
suffixes like cqm ( SQueeze and UnSQueeze ) in that some archive utility
has been used on them.  Also, along the same lines where can I find a
utility that restores *.ark files?

Thanks ahead of time!
-David

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Date: 13 Oct 92 13:20:08 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!gateway@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Dan Newcombe)
Subject: Will CP/M software work on any CP/M ???
Message-ID: <9210131319.AA13429@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu>

Hi,
 I have been trying to find some CP/M database software for
a friend who has a DEC Rainbow 100 computer.  I know that
there is a HUGE supply of CP/M stuff at Wuarchive.  Would
I be able to download this stuff, transfer it to a disk
via a CP/M read/write program and get it to work on the
DEC with no problems???  As I remember, CP/M was based on the
8080 chip and instructions, so it shouldn't be a problem, right?

   THANKS!!!
     -Dan

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Date: 9 Oct 92 02:28:00 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!hobbes.physics.uiowa.edu!news.uiowa.edu!news.weeg.uiowa.edu!vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu!jdkirby@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Student Account)
Subject: z80 c cross compilers
Message-ID: <8OCT199220281728@vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu>

I am also looking for a z80 c compiler. The application I'm
doing requires me to write the program on a PC (IBM) and 
download the program thru the serial port to the Z80 system
I designed. This part works since I wrote a monitor program
and installed it in the ROM previously. The serial transfer
works and I transferred a small assembly language program
thru it a couple days ago. The assembler I use is called ZAS
from Z-world. However, the application I'm working on requires 
a lot of table manipulation and variable tracking. This is a 
thing that a higher level language does very well without the 
programmer having to think much about it. Anyway, an individual
mentioned using Aztec C professional Cross Compiler and I would
like to try this but where do you find it. Another mail message
I got mentioned using BDS-C with a CP/M emulator on my PC.
This is not a bad idea because I have a copy of 80MATE which
supposedly should do this. However I'm about as fluent in CP/M
as most Americans are in Japanese, so this is not practical due
to the time constraints involved. Therefore, does anybody know
where I can find the Aztec software (for cheap) or an alternate
method of doing this without having to reinvent the wheel again?
Additionally, I can also try using a combination of the above methods
by compiling in C to assembly then assembling to machine code
afterwords. The ZAS assembler creates ROMmable code in INtel-hex
format and is very effective. Anyway, Thanks for any help you can provide.

John Kirby

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INFO-CPM Digest             Fri, 16 Oct 92       Volume 92 : Issue  111

Today's Topics:
                ftp-server for cpm, strange .xxx files
                     Good Kaypro needs Good Home.
                    Good Kaypro needs Good Home II
                      Manuals needed (M80 & L80)
             Re: Will CP/M software work on any CP/M ???
                   Transfer cp/m files to elsewhere
                           TRS-80 Model II
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Date: 13 Oct 92 15:10:11 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ira.uka.de!math.fu-berlin.de!dct.zrz.tu-berlin.de!zrz.tu-berlin.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!elwood!runner.prz.tu-berlin.de!nicolai@  (Nicolai Leymann)
Subject: ftp-server for cpm, strange .xxx files
Message-ID: <4120@elwood.prz.tu-berlin.de>

Dear netters,

Thanks for the replies to my last posting. I've received some answers.
You can get cpm-stuff from The following ftp-sites:

  micros.hensa.ac.uk
  134.130.70.200     (Germany)
  wsmr-simtel20.army.mil [192.88.110.20]  pd2:<cpm>
  wuarchive.wustl.edu    [128.252.135.4]  mirrors/cpm/
  watsun.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.39.1]

I ftp'ed kermit this morning from a ftp-server, but I have one
little problem: These strange endings like .pqt, dqc, .lbr, .ark
... I think that the files are packed, but with what kind of packer ?
Any suggestions ?
 
  Thanks

           Nic
-- 
Nicolai Leymann                           email: nicolai@prz.tu-berlin.de
Systemadministrator                       phone: +49-30-314-25790
Technical University of Berlin              fax: +49-30-314-21114

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Date: 13 Oct 92 00:59:50 GMT
From: att!fang!gator!towers!npal!cstewart@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: Good Kaypro needs Good Home.
Message-ID: <20689@npal.rn.com>

 Hi! I beleiive in recycled hardware as well. I have a Kaypro-4, a portables
jobwith built-in monitor, 2 floppy drives, 1 serial and 1 parallel. Original
software, original documentation , and some more.
It is a perfectly funtional beast, especially wd. proceessing. But I need, for
software reasons, to let it go and get a bare-bones XT for the things I need to
do. Can anyyone give the Puma 'Puter a good home, and until I do , does any one
know if a Kermit or other comm. package has VT-!00-er VT-100term emulation for

erer

er ethe Kaypro-$

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Date: 13 Oct 92 01:07:37 GMT
From: att!fang!gator!towers!npal!cstewart@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: Good Kaypro needs Good Home II
Message-ID: <20690@npal.rn.com>

If you read my previous post, you begin to see my term. problems. the only
Kermit I could find has VT-52 emulation only. The IMP I'm using now is
apparently the same,(but doesn't sayy so.) But even VT-100 won't   meeet my
neeeds for long. So I am looking for an XT.
P.S. I can 

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Date: 15 Oct 92 18:19:58 GMT
From: eru.mt.luth.se!lunic!sunic!news.funet.fi!news.lut.fi!tepponen@bloom-beacon.mit.edu  (Jussi Tepponen)
Subject: Manuals needed (M80 & L80)
Message-ID: <Bw6DLB.HnJ@lut.fi>

I have a problem. I got this old C-compiler disk with M80 and L80 on it.
The compiler makes Z80 Mac files, and I have documentation for the
compiler. But there is no documentation for the M80 Macro assembler, and
nether for the L80 linker.

Can anyone help me with this? I just know the /z flag and aseg .z80
commands for M80 and the normal linking line (L80 name,name).

---------------------------------------------------------------
Jussi Tepponen Lappeenranta University of Technology, Finland
e-mail tepponen@lut.fi

is the snow white during the night....
---------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: 13 Oct 92 16:01:39 GMT
From: destroyer!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!hamblin.math.byu.edu!hellgate.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!ivie@gumby.wisc.edu  (CP/M lives!)
Subject: Re: Will CP/M software work on any CP/M ???
Message-ID: <1992Oct13.100139.59656@cc.usu.edu>

In article <9210131319.AA13429@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu>, STDN%MARIST@VM.MARIST.EDU (Dan Newcombe) writes:
> Hi,
>  I have been trying to find some CP/M database software for
> a friend who has a DEC Rainbow 100 computer.  I know that
> there is a HUGE supply of CP/M stuff at Wuarchive.  Would
> I be able to download this stuff, transfer it to a disk
> via a CP/M read/write program and get it to work on the
> DEC with no problems???  As I remember, CP/M was based on the
> 8080 chip and instructions, so it shouldn't be a problem, right?

In most cases, you can run CP/M software on any old CP/M machine. There are
exceptions; software that utilizes the particular I/O ports of a certain
machine, for instance. You will probably have to customize some software to 
talk to the terminal (in this case a VT100). This is always interesting.

The DEC Rainbow is an odd CP/M box. It is primarily a CP/M-86 box with a 
Z80 off to the side running the floppies. The 8086 can ship a CP/M-80
program over to the Z80 and run it. Since the 8086 is running the BDOS, the 
Z80 has lots of extra memory space that it wouldn't normally have. I did have
trouble getting the I/O byte to work properly from the Z80, and this is the
primary reason that I decided to use other machines.

The oddest CP/M box that I know of is the DECmate II, which I am using right
now. The DECmate II is primarily a PDP-8 based word processor with a Z80
coprocessor card. The Z80 does not have direct access to the hardware (the 
BIOS runs on the PDP-8), but since the I/O byte is correctly implemented
that isn't really a problem; I run, for example, the exact same version of
KERMIT on the DECmate II that I use on the Televideo 802.

The most interesting problem that I've had getting CP/M software to run on
the DECmate involved some software that did not know how to put out ASCII
coordinates for the VT100 emulation. I had to patch the startup banner of
that program to include the Switch-to-VT52-mode escape sequence, and then
patch the program to run a VT52.

Roger Ivie
ivie@cc.usu.edu

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Date: 30 Sep 92 10:15:31 GMT
From: mcsun!sun4nl!wn1.sci.kun.nl!sci.kun.nl!adridg@uunet.uu.net  (Adriaan de Groot)
Subject: Transfer cp/m files to elsewhere
Message-ID: <BvDz5w.Ixp@sci.kun.nl>

Sketch of the situation: there's about 30 cp/m machines
'round here -- ICL Quadra, with one 5 1/4" floppy
(no idea 'bout density) and a 10M hard disk. The stuff
on the hard disk needs to be transferred to a UNIX system.

			----

But how? There's a COM port on these machines, so if
some kind soul can provide KERMIT or so, we could download
the contents to the UNIX system directly. An alternative
is to find a way of reading floppies from these ICLs on
an MS DOS machine (if I can find one with a 5 1/4" drive)
and I can deal with further transfers myself.

Would 22DISK work? I've seen this mentioned several times
here, I'm sure I can dredge up an XT to read the floppies
with. However, I need to get said 22DISK, and that's
easier said than done (really?)

Can someone point me to, say, a European cp/m users group,
an ftp site for a program to read cp/m floppies. How
'bout vaguely useful hints? Could use them, too.

If you need more tech information about these ICL machines,
mail me and I'll look it up. EMail to adridg@sci.kun.nl.
--
+-------------------------------+-----------------------+
+ This...is a public service,   + adridg@sci.kun.nl     +
+   announcement...with guitars!+                       +

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Date: 15 Oct 92 05:19:31 GMT
From: usenetusenet@cs.orst.edu  (Erik Petersen)
Subject: TRS-80 Model II
Message-ID: <1992Oct15.051931.24157@CS.ORST.EDU>

Well, I got a TRS-80 Model II from a friend and, surprise,
none of the boot disks worked. Soooo, I took out the boot
ROM, disassembled it, and wrote a new ROM to read the
keyboard and echo characters to the screen. It worked!

Now, I would like to run CPM programs on this thing, but
unfortunately, the ROM occupies addresses 0 to 7FFh, and
CPM expects programs to begin at 100h. Meaning, I need to
disable the boot ROM after loading the OS. Did the
original TRSDOS disable the ROM after booting?

Also, I would like to know the addresses of the control and
data ports for the two serial ports. 

Thanks for any help.

Erik Petersen

-- 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Erik Petersen
   peterse@CS.ORST.EDU
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

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INFO-CPM Digest             Sat, 17 Oct 92       Volume 92 : Issue  112

Today's Topics:
                     Big Board II + misc for sale
                             DECmate III
           embedded systems engineering position available
                      kaypro_ii_bootdisk_wanted
              Re: ftp-server for cpm, strange .xxx files
             Re: Will CP/M software work on any CP/M ???
                   Transfer cp/m files to elsewhere
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Date: 16 Oct 92 17:11:36 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!news.mr.med.ge.com!selig%clam.med.ge.com@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Jim Selig Mfg QIE)
Subject: Big Board II + misc for sale
Message-ID: <1992Oct16.171136.13506@mr.med.ge.com>

I have a "Big Board II" system that's been sitting around and would
like to find it a good home.  This is a 4 MHz single board system with
64K ram, two serial ports, parallel interface, and a breadboard area.
The breadboard area has a couple of parts on it to enable one of the
parallel interfaces to be used as a centronics parallel port.
Also has an STD bus interface.  Mounted in enclosure with two 8"
disk drives and power supply, and includes keyboard, but no monitor.
Works, but has a problem reading inner sectors of the floppies.
You can boot with it as is, and I know the drives themselves are OK,
its the controller that has some sort of problem.  Includes full
schematic, documentation, and rom and bios source code listings
as well as source code on disk - also Turbo Pascal, small-C, and
other stuff.  Also has debugger in rom so you don't need to boot
to troubleshoot.  Asking $75 plus shipping and COD charges (COD about
$5 and it will be shipped in three boxes which may be another $20 or
so).  

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Date: 15 Oct 92 09:53:46 GMT
From: mcsun!sun4nl!skferc!Skferc.NL!meccl@uunet.uu.net  (Cees Labrie)
Subject: DECmate III
Message-ID: <meccl.57@Skferc.NL>

I have just bought a surplus DECmate III, which I believe is a CP/M machine, 
can anyone help me a little here? I'm trying to format floppies, the DEC 
ones format OK, but IBM PC floppies will not. I've tried all different types 
the only difference I can see is a little red arrow sticker on the disk 
sleeve - surely this isn't it ? Or is it ? 

Please send e-mail direct to me and I'll summerize rsn :-)

Regards,

Cees Labrie     email - meccl@Skferc.NL
                Tel     (INT) 31 3402 75957

SKF-Engineering & Research Centre
Nieuwegein 
The Netherlands  

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Date: 16 Oct 92 17:26:31 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!malgudi.oar.net!caen!sdd.hp.com!sgiblab!sgigate!olivea!news.bbn.com!noc.near.net!news.cs.brandeis.edu!chaos.cs.brandeis.edu!mary@ucbvax.  (Mary F Wentworth)
Subject: embedded systems engineering position available
Message-ID: <1992Oct16.172631.28154@news.cs.brandeis.edu>

Houghton Mifflin Co.			Cambridge, MA

Houghton Mifflin designs platform-independent linguistic software. Our
products are written in C on the PC and then ported to a variety of
platforms. We are looking for an engineer capable of porting these
products to a variety of microprocessors, including the Z80. In-circuit
emulation experience a must. Bank switching experience also necessary.

If you're interested, call me.

Mary Wentworth
617-252-3080 


-- 
                               Mary F. Wentworth

			   mary@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu

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Date: 16 Oct 92 04:17:02 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!unixbox!dosgate!dosgate![blair.groves%canrem.com]@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (blair groves)
Subject: kaypro_ii_bootdisk_wanted
Message-ID: <1992Oct15.4443.3020@dosgate>

Help! I have a Kaypro-II but no boot disk! Can someone arrange to
UU-Encode the Sysgen image, and E-Mail it to me? Thanks in advance!

Also, can anyone out here get me TurboDOS for the TeleVideo TS-806,
and/or the TS-803? Documentation would not be a problem, since I have
the version for Advanced Digital's OEM version, but TeleVideo specific
docs  would definitly be helpful.

blair.groves@canrem.com
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044

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Date: 15 Oct 92 14:28:52 GMT
From: noc.near.net!bigboote.WPI.EDU!bigwpi.WPI.EDU!ear@uunet.uu.net  (Mr. Neat-O [tm])
Subject: Re: ftp-server for cpm, strange .xxx files
Message-ID: <1bjv74INNp10@bigboote.WPI.EDU>

In article <4120@elwood.prz.tu-berlin.de> nicolai@runner.prz.tu-berlin.de (Nicolai Leymann) writes:
>You can get cpm-stuff from The following ftp-sites:
>
>  micros.hensa.ac.uk
>  134.130.70.200     (Germany)
>  wsmr-simtel20.army.mil [192.88.110.20]  pd2:<cpm>
>  wuarchive.wustl.edu    [128.252.135.4]  mirrors/cpm/
>  watsun.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.39.1]
>
>I ftp'ed kermit this morning from a ftp-server, but I have one
>little problem: These strange endings like .pqt, dqc, .lbr, .ark
>... I think that the files are packed, but with what kind of packer ?
>Any suggestions ?

As somebody answered about the .*q* files, I'll answer about the .ark. .ark
is just an alteration of .arc, which is/was a common compression algorithm
on PC's.  The .arc extension was changed to .ark simply to differentiate the
CP/M files from the MS-Dos ones, but the compression and internal format are
exactly the same.  For DOS, you could use pkunpak to unpack/unarc the files. 
For CP/M, I believe there is a program called unarc available at the 2nd or
3rd ftp site mentioned above.  

To answer someone else's question about where to find vt100 emulators /
kermit for kaypro machines, I would direct them the the 4th ftp site listed
above (watsun...). That is the *official* distribution site for kermit, and
one may obtain there a version of kermit for just about any machine in
existance.  

+---------< Eric A. Rasmussen - Mr. Neat-O (tm) >---------+ +< Email Address >+
|   A real engineer never reads the instructions first.   | | ear@wpi.wpi.edu |
|   (They figure out how it works by playing with it.)    | | ear%wpi@wpi.edu |
+---------------------------------------------------------+ +-----------------+
                     ((( In Stereo Where Available )))

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Date: 15 Oct 92 15:15:35 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!hellgate.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!ivie@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (CP/M lives!)
Subject: Re: Will CP/M software work on any CP/M ???
Message-ID: <1992Oct15.091535.59726@cc.usu.edu>

In article <Bw2nv1.F52@ichaos.nullnet.fi>, jlaiho@ichaos.nullnet.fi (Juha Laiho) writes:
> In article <9210131319.AA13429@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu> STDN%MARIST@VM.MARIST.EDU (Dan Newcombe) writes:
>>As I remember, CP/M was based on the 8080 chip and instructions,
>>so it shouldn't be a problem, right?
>>
> One 'small' problem exists, if Rainbow uses 8080 (or 8085) chip.
> Much of the later CP/M software was written using the z80 instruction set
> that is a superset of 8080 instruction set. Thus you'll find some software
> that doesn't work. Also some CP/M software makes assumtions about control
> sequences used to clear screen, move cursor etc. Still, much of the software
> will work, I suppose.

Not true. The Rainbow has a dual-processor setup using the 8088 and Z80. I
used to run CP/M Turbo Pascal on my Rainbow all the time, and the first 
thing a Turbo Pascal procedure does on entry is muck about with the index
registers.

Roger Ivie
ivie@cc.usu.edu

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Date: 1 Oct 92 11:30:39 GMT
From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!wupost!waikato.ac.nz!aukuni.ac.nz!kcbbs!kc@ames.arc.nasa.gov  (Richard Plinston)
Subject: Transfer cp/m files to elsewhere
Message-ID: <10292274.41439.1475@kcbbs.gen.nz>

   >>>> 30 cp/m machines .. ICL Quadra

   I assume that you mean ICL Quattro.  These run CDOS 4.1 or 5.1.
   (very early machines had CCP/M 3.1S).  You can write DOS 360Kb
   discettes on these machines as long as they are configured to
   have 'PC-Node' included.  Format some 360Kbs on an IBM AT 1.2
   meg drive   (FORMAT A: /4 on the IBM).

   Set the Quattro to use 360Kb discettes:

               OPTION B:=IBM9

   It may say 'read only' but they write OK.  If it won't do this
   run CONFIG, set PC-MODE on and rebuild system.  Reboot and try
   again.

   PC-ALIEN from FBN-Software in Australia can read native Quattro
   discettes (it has them as ICL Model 35/36 DS 96 TPI).

   I can send you Kermit or Modem7 for Quattro if you wish, send me
   a snail-mail address (postal address) and I'll send a disc.
   

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INFO-CPM Digest             Sun, 18 Oct 92       Volume 92 : Issue  113

Today's Topics:
                            amstrad discs
                            Apple Lisa....
               MSX terminal/communications prog. needed
                        need kayproii sysdisk
              Re: ftp-server for cpm, strange .xxx files
             Re: Will CP/M software work on any CP/M ???
                     transport from ibm (2 msgs)
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Date: 14 Oct 92 15:29:04 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!caen!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ira.uka.de!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!ifi!news@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Weber)
Subject: amstrad discs
Message-ID: <1992Oct14.152904.4343@ifi.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de>

In article <1992Oct13.151352.5017@lut.ac.uk> J.Hunter@lut.ac.uk (Jamie Hunter) writes:
>Someone I know has fitted a 3.5" disk drive to an Amstrad cpm/w machine.
>The want to be able to read&write msdos disks.  What software is available
>for it?  I've got s/w that might be able to read/write the amstrad disks
>(yet to be tried), but not vice-versa.

Try formatting the 3.5" discs with the Amstrad as cpm/86 format
(this is possible if it is a CPC).
Else format the disc on a PC with fdformat with 8 sectors/40 tracks
(that makes cpm/86 format too).
Afterwards you can read the disc on a pc with a tool like 22nice
or zsim.

-- 

Juergen G. Weber
Student am Institut fuer Informatik
Universitaet Stuttgart - Germany

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 92 21:31:11 EDT
From: eudoh@st6000.sct.edu (Etop Udoh)
Subject: Apple Lisa....
Message-ID: <9210180131.AA29496@st6000.sct.edu>

    
  hi,


    I'm looking for any information which may be available for the
or rather about the Apple Lisa, not to mention what kind of machine
it is.....

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Date: 1 Oct 92 08:29:49 GMT
From: mcsun!news.funet.fi!cc.tut.fi!kent@uunet.uu.net  (Kentt{l{ Marko)
Subject: MSX terminal/communications prog. needed
Message-ID: <1992Oct1.082949.15389@cc.tut.fi>

Any you guys out there have terminal/communications program for MSX ?

Could you E-mail it to me ?

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Date: 16 Oct 92 20:07:26 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!unixbox!dosgate!dosgate![blair.groves%canrem.com]@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (blair groves)
Subject: need kayproii sysdisk
Message-ID: <1992Oct16.4443.3024@dosgate>

Help! I have a Kaypro-II but no boot disk! Can someone arrange to
UU-Encode the Sysgen image, and E-Mail it to me? Thanks in advance!
Also, can anyone out here get me TurboDOS for the TeleVideo TS-806,
and/or the TS-803? Documentation would not be a problem, since I have
the version for Advanced Digital's OEM version, but TeleVideo
specific docs  would definitly be helpful.

blair.groves@canrem.com
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Date: 13 Oct 92 18:16:04 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!caen!spool.mu.edu!darwin.sura.net!paladin.american.edu!news.univie.ac.at!hp4at!mcsun!fuug!ichaos!jlaiho@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Juha Laiho)
Subject: Re: ftp-server for cpm, strange .xxx files
Message-ID: <Bw2o2t.F87@ichaos.nullnet.fi>

In article <4120@elwood.prz.tu-berlin.de> nicolai@runner.prz.tu-berlin.de (Nicolai Leymann) writes:
>Dear netters,
>
>I ftp'ed kermit this morning from a ftp-server, but I have one
>little problem: These strange endings like .pqt, dqc, .lbr, .ark
>... I think that the files are packed, but with what kind of packer ?
>Any suggestions ?
> 
I don't recall seeing .ark, but about the others:
.?Q?: sQueezed file, get something that will sQueeze/UnsQueeze.
	I used to use a program called 'SWEEP'; it's quite nice file/directory
	maintainer.
.LBR: Libraries. I had a library utility calles NULU on my CP/M machine.
	interface is pretty much like that of SWEEP, I think it's quite
	nice/fast to use.

..Wolf

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Date: 13 Oct 92 18:11:22 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!caen!spool.mu.edu!darwin.sura.net!paladin.american.edu!news.univie.ac.at!hp4at!mcsun!fuug!ichaos!jlaiho@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Juha Laiho)
Subject: Re: Will CP/M software work on any CP/M ???
Message-ID: <Bw2nv1.F52@ichaos.nullnet.fi>

In article <9210131319.AA13429@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu> STDN%MARIST@VM.MARIST.EDU (Dan Newcombe) writes:
>As I remember, CP/M was based on the 8080 chip and instructions,
>so it shouldn't be a problem, right?
>
One 'small' problem exists, if Rainbow uses 8080 (or 8085) chip.
Much of the later CP/M software was written using the z80 instruction set
that is a superset of 8080 instruction set. Thus you'll find some software
that doesn't work. Also some CP/M software makes assumtions about control
sequences used to clear screen, move cursor etc. Still, much of the software
will work, I suppose.

..Wolf

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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 92 02:04:48 PDT
From: pallio.UUCP!dg@mis.ucsf.EDU (David Goodenough)
Subject: transport from ibm
Message-ID: <XX000133ba@pallio.UUCP>

joneswd@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (William D. Jones) asks:

> This may seem somewhat trivial to this group, but is there a way
> to transfer information to a commodore computer in cpm mode from
> an ibm compatible disk?  What exactly is kermit?

Well, there are a couple of options. If you have a 1571 drive and are
using the CP/M mode of a C128, you can write the information to a
Kaypro 2 or Kaypro 4 format disk, directly from CP/M. Then you can use
22DISK on the IBM to read the Kaypro disk.

Another option would be the program Big Blue Reader for the
Commodore, which runs in Commodore mode (I believe) but allows you
to read and write IBM disks directly on the Commodore.

Kermit would be another option: it's a program that allows your Commodore
and IBM computers to send files back and forth using serial communications.
The big problem with it may be that Kermit for the Commodore expects to talk
directly to something like a 1670 modem, which in turn only connects to a
phone line. Get the two systems by two phones (if possible) and have one
call the other.

If not, you can connect two modems together (you have a modem for
the IBM?) with a standard modular phone cord, and sometimes it's
possible to get them to talk to each other. I've done this with a
1670 and another modem attached to a CP/M machine: a lot of it
depends on the modems themselves.
     dg
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Date: 18 Oct 92 04:49:24 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!unixbox!dosgate!dosgate![ray.whidden%canrem.com]@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (ray whidden)
Subject: transport from ibm
Message-ID: <199217.4443.3032@dosgate>

In an article from William D. Jones:

WD>This may seem somewhat trivial to this group, but is there a way to
WD>transfer information to a commodore computer in cpm mode from an ibm
WD>compatible disk?  What exactly is kermit?

Sage Microsystems used to sell DOSDisk which ran on the Commodore C=128
with CP/M v3.0 and Z3Plus and reads/writes MS-DOS disks.  Also, Big
Blue Reader, runs in C=128 native mode and reads/writes CBM-CP/M & MS-DOS
disks.  BBR is advertised in recent RUN and Compute magazines.

There are also shareware/freeware products such as TRANS128, which run
in CP/M mode and read/write MS-DOS disks.

CAVEAT: For CP/M to MS-DOS transfers, these programs do not work with a 
C=1541 disk drive.  C=1571 or C=1581 disk drive required.  C=1541 is GCR
recording mode ONLY, C=1571 is GCR or MFM recording and C=1581 is MFM
recording.  MS-DOS disks are MFM recording.

Regards, Ray

Internet: ray.whidden@canrem.com : RIME    : ->CRS : 46 Campania Crescent,
UUCP: canrem!ray.whidden FidoNet: 1:229/15  : Scarborough, Ontario M1V 2E9

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Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #114
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INFO-CPM Digest             Mon, 19 Oct 92       Volume 92 : Issue  114

Today's Topics:
                      CP/M data transfer to DOS
                     Further Televideo adventures
                            ibm conversion
                       Tiny-C binaries (where)?
                          transport from ibm
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Date: 1 Oct 92 19:33:23 GMT
From: darwin.sura.net!tulane!rouge!aww7112@gatech.edu  (Wiltz Anthony W)
Subject: CP/M data transfer to DOS
Message-ID: <1992Oct1.193323.15433@usl.edu>

I am in search for the easiest method to transfer data from a Xerox 820-II
PC using CP/M version 2.2 operating system to a MS-DOS machine.  The Xerox
machine has only two 8inch Drives with a COMM. and Printer port.  I looked
into the PIP.COM command, but not too sure that it will solve the problem.

After talking with a few people they directed me to XMODEM, which was in use
in the days of CP/M to transfer data between machines (CP/M machines I
presume).  I would need the version of XMODEM which coincides with the CP/M
era.

Thanks in advance for any information submitted.  

Wayne

e-mail:  aww7112@usl.edu

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Date: 15 Oct 92 02:06:19 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!pasteur!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!usenet.coe.montana.edu!news.u.washington.edu!glia!jfoy@ucbvax.  (Jeff Foy)
Subject: Further Televideo adventures
Message-ID: <jfoy.719114779@glia>

What is listed below is what came up on my TV806/20 once I found
the right cables for the hard drive. More than 75% of the files
have a file size of 0k so I'm guessing that I'll need a new boot
disk (if such a beast is available). So, can someone tell me what
exactly I have? I'd be forever grateful if so...

Jeff




System IPL from Hard disk in progress

TELEVIDEO SYSTEM TS-806/20 V1.2
60k CP/M Vers. 2.2
Tandon TM-503 Winchester.


A>dir
A: CON192   REL : CPMSUP   REL : FASLOD   REL : GEN      COM
A: LSTCTS   REL : PATCH    REL : SERIAL   REL : STDLOADR REL
A: STDSINGL REL : SCANDUP  COM : INSTMST  DOC : FIXDISK  COM
A: BUILDSYS DOC : COPYMST  SUB : TS6BOOT  COM : CPM60    COM
A: TOD      COM : MAKESYS  COM : HDFORMAT COM : SYSGEN   COM
A: FORMAT   COM : COPYFILE COM : 806BIOS  COM : PARK32   COM
A: BUILDDSK SUB : PIP      COM : OSSLAVE  SYS : SUBMIT   REL
A: USRFNC   REL : DEF806   REL : DEF816   REL : DSK81640 REL
A: DST81641 REL : DST81642 REL : DST81644 REL : LSTCEN   REL
A: NIT8X6   REL : OSLOD806 GEN : OSLOD806 PAR : OSLOD826 GEN
A: OSLOD826 PAR : OSLOD846 GEN : OSLOD846 PAR : OSSGL806 GEN
A: OSSGL806 PAR : OSSGL826 GEN : OSSGL826 PAR : OSSGL846 GEN
A: OSSGL846 PAR : PAR80X   REL : DSK80XF  REL : DSK80XW  REL
A: DST80X21 REL : DST80X22 REL : DST80X23 REL : DST80XF  REL
A: DST80XW1 REL : DST80XW2 REL : DST80XW3 REL : RTC80X   REL
A: SPI80X   REL : XSUB     COM : ED       COM : ASM      COM
A: DDT      COM : LOAD     COM : STAT     COM : DUMP     COM
A: BUILDSYS SUB : SUBMIT   COM : MMMOST   COM : OSSGL826 SYS
A: OSREM806 SYS : OSSGL806 SYS : OSSLG806 SYS : -UPDATE  DOC
A: OSLOD826 COM : ERASEDIR COM : OSSLV800 BAK : OSMAS846 GEN
A: OSREM846 GEN : OSSLAVE  PAR : OSMAS806 SYS : OSREM826 PAR
A: OSSLAVE  GEN : 0SSLAVE  SYS : LOD806   COM : OSSLV800 PAR
A: OSSLV803 GEN : AUTOLOAD COM : BACKUP   COM : BANK     COM
A: BOOT     COM : BUFFERS  COM : CHANGE   COM : COPY     COM
A: DATE     COM : DELETE   COM : DIR      COM : DO       COM
A: DRIVE    COM : FIXDIR   COM : FIXMAP   COM : FMT80XF  REL
A: FMT80XH  REL : FORMAT   REL : FORMATFD COM : FORMATFD GEN
A: FORMATHD COM : FORMATHD GEN : FPATCH   COM : LABEL    COM
A: LOGNULL  COM : LOGOFF   COM : LOGON    COM : MONITOR  COM
A: PRINT    COM : RELCVT   COM : RENAME   COM : SAVE     ASM
A: SAVE     HEX : SET      COM : SHOW     COM : STATUS   COM
A: TED      COM : TYPE     COM : USER     COM : USFEQU   ASM
A: USRFMA   ASM : VERIFY   COM : WSPAT30  HEX : WSPAT33  ASM
A: WSPAT33  HEX : BNKMGR   REL : LST300   REL : LSTETX   REL
A: LSTXON   REL : MAKEBOOT COM : NORLOD   REL : USFMAX   REL
A: USRFMA   REL : BATCH    COM : CKTEQU   ASM : CONREM   REL
A: DSPOOL   REL : FIFO     COM : MASTER   COM : MASTER   REL
A: MSGFMT   REL : NETLOD   REL : NETREQ   REL : NETSVC   REL
A: PRINTER  COM : QUEUE    COM : RECEIVE  COM : SEND     COM
A: STDMASTR REL : STDSLAVE REL : STDSPOOL REL : WARMSTRT AUT
A: LOD816   COM : MST80X   REL : OSMAS806 GEN : OSMAS806 PAR
A: OSMAS826 GEN : OSMAS826 PAR : OSMAS846 PAR : OSREM806 GEN
A: OSREM806 PAR : OSREM826 GEN : OSREM846 PAR : MIN802   REL
A: OSSLV800 GEN : OSSLV803 PAR : OSSLV80M GEN : OSSLV80M PAR
A: OSSLVP1N GEN : OSSLVP1N PAR : SLAVE    REL : SLV802   REL
A: SLV803   REL : BNK803   REL : CON803   REL : CONTPC   REL
A: DEF802   REL : DSK803F  REL : DSK803W  REL : DST803F  REL
A: DST803W  REL : MOU803   REL : NIT803   REL : NIT80X   REL
A: RTC803   REL : SER803   REL : OSMASTER SYS : USERID   SYS

A>b:
B>dir
B: CPMSUP   REL : ED       COM : ASM      COM : DDT      COM
B: LOAD     COM : STAT     COM : ERASEDIR COM : FIXDIR   COM
B: SCANDUP  COM : INSTMST  DOC : FIXDISK  COM : BUILDSYS DOC
B: COPYMST  SUB : TS6BOOT  COM : CPM60    COM : TOD      COM
B: MAKESYS  COM : HDFORMAT COM : SYSGEN   COM : FORMAT   COM
B: COPYFILE COM : 806BIOS  COM : PARK32   COM : BUILDDSK SUB
B: OSSLAVE  SYS : CON192   REL : FASLOD   REL : GEN      COM
B: LSTCTS   REL : PATCH    REL : SERIAL   REL : STDLOADR REL
B: STDSINGL REL : SUBMIT   REL : USRFNC   REL : DEF806   REL
B: DEF816   REL : DSK81640 REL : DST81641 REL : DST81642 REL
B: DST81644 REL : LSTCEN   REL : NIT8X6   REL : OSLOD806 GEN
B: OSLOD806 PAR : OSLOD826 GEN : OSLOD826 PAR : OSLOD846 GEN
B: OSLOD846 PAR : OSSGL806 GEN : OSSGL806 PAR : OSSGL826 GEN
B: OSSGL826 PAR : OSSGL846 GEN : OSSGL846 PAR : PAR80X   REL
B: DSK80XF  REL : DSK80XW  REL : DST80X21 REL : DST80X22 REL
B: DST80X23 REL : DST80XF  REL : DST80XW1 REL : DST80XW2 REL
B: DST80XW3 REL : RTC80X   REL : SPI80X   REL : MMMOST   COM
B: LOD806   COM : USERID   SYS : OSREM806 SYS : SUBMIT   COM
B: OSMAS846 GEN : OSSLV803 PAR : OSSLV803 GEN : BUILDSYS SUB
B: PIP      COM : OSSGL806 SYS : OSSLG806 SYS : -UPDATE  DOC
B: OSLOD826 COM : XSUB     COM : OSSLV800 BAK : OSREM846 GEN
B: OSSLAVE  PAR : OSMAS806 SYS : OSREM826 PAR : OSSLAVE  GEN
B: 0SSLAVE  SYS : OSSLV800 PAR : AUTOLOAD COM : BACKUP   COM
B: BANK     COM : BOOT     COM : BUFFERS  COM : CHANGE   COM
B: COPY     COM : DATE     COM : DELETE   COM : DIR      COM
B: DO       COM : DRIVE    COM : DUMP     COM : FIXMAP   COM
B: FMT80XF  REL : FMT80XH  REL : FORMAT   REL : FORMATFD COM
B: FORMATFD GEN : FORMATHD COM : FORMATHD GEN : FPATCH   COM
B: LABEL    COM : LOGNULL  COM : LOGOFF   COM : LOGON    COM
B: MONITOR  COM : PRINT    COM : RELCVT   COM : RENAME   COM
B: SAVE     ASM : SAVE     HEX : SET      COM : SHOW     COM
B: STATUS   COM : TED      COM : TYPE     COM : USER     COM
B: USFEQU   ASM : USRFMA   ASM : VERIFY   COM : WSPAT30  HEX
B: WSPAT33  ASM : WSPAT33  HEX : BNKMGR   REL : LST300   REL
B: LSTETX   REL : LSTXON   REL : MAKEBOOT COM : NORLOD   REL
B: USFMAX   REL : USRFMA   REL : BATCH    COM : CKTEQU   ASM
B: CONREM   REL : DSPOOL   REL : FIFO     COM : MASTER   COM
B: MASTER   REL : MSGFMT   REL : NETLOD   REL : NETREQ   REL
B: NETSVC   REL : PRINTER  COM : QUEUE    COM : RECEIVE  COM
B: SEND     COM : STDMASTR REL : STDSLAVE REL : STDSPOOL REL
B: WARMSTRT AUT : LOD816   COM : MST80X   REL : OSMAS806 GEN
B: OSMAS806 PAR : OSMAS826 GEN : OSMAS826 PAR : OSMAS846 PAR
B: OSREM806 GEN : OSREM806 PAR : OSREM826 GEN : OSREM846 PAR
B: MIN802   REL : OSSLV800 GEN : OSSLV80M GEN : OSSLV80M PAR
B: OSSLVP1N GEN : OSSLVP1N PAR : SLAVE    REL : SLV802   REL
B: SLV803   REL : BNK803   REL : CON803   REL : CONTPC   REL
B: DEF802   REL : DSK803F  REL : DSK803W  REL : DST803F  REL
B: DST803W  REL : MOU803   REL : NIT803   REL : NIT80X   REL
B: RTC803   REL : SER803   REL : OSMASTER SYS
B>

-- 
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             *** FREE BILL & KATHY SWAN ***
-*- Happy as a clam to be using Professional YAM -*-  :)

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Date: 15 Oct 92 00:11:12 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!caen!sdd.hp.com!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!master.cs.rose-hulman.edu!master.cs.rose-hulman.edu!news@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (William D. Jones)
Subject: ibm conversion
Message-ID: <1bicv0INNb2a@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>

I've recently returned to the Commodore and was wondering what kind of  
transfer capabilities there are between the ibm and the commodore?  Is  
there anyway ascii data transfer can be reached?  Can't the 1571 or 1581  
read DOS formatted disks?  I would appreciate any info someone has on this  
matter.

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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 92 09:14:52 -0500
From: curts@tmpcu.mdc.com (Curt Schroeder)
Subject: Tiny-C binaries (where)?
Message-ID: <9210191414.AA26270@tmpcu.mdc.com>

Fellow CP/Mers,

Thank you to those of you who responded to my query for a Z80 assembler and
linker that could do relocatable code!  I now have a copy of Z80MR-A and PMLINK.

The reason for the above request was to get the tools to try a version of 
Tiny-C.  However, I am still at an impass.  I have two distributions of Tiny-C,
neither of which I can do anything with.  The first one was distributed with
a CC binary and an assembler called 'assemble.com'.  It uses a companion linker
called 'link.com', but was not included on the distribution disk someone gave
me (he was unloading his Apple II CP/M stuff).  I was going to try and use
Z80MR/PMLINK instead, but the 'stdlib' and 'runtime' libs are of course not
compatible.  Now I discover that I do not have the source for either lib (but
I have the C source for the CC binary, which is supposed to be able to compile
itself).  So I need either the lib sources or a lead on where to find the
linker.

The other version of Tiny-C I have is the C source for a different release of
Tiny-C that I got off of the Wash. U. archive.  It is written to use M80/L80
and the .lbr file did not include a binary for CC, so I can't build this
version either.

I don't suppose anyone out there has done a version of Tiny-C that targets the
Z80MR/PMLINK combination for doing the assembly and linking?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Curt

Curt Schroeder | McDonnell Douglas, St. Louis | curts@tmpcu.mdc.com   |
----------------------------------------------| c1891@slvaxa.umsl.edu |
These opinions are mine, mine, mine!  I am    |-----------------------|
not an instantiation of Std_Employee!         | - Apple II Forever -  |



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Date: 15 Oct 92 00:08:18 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!caen!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!master.cs.rose-hulman.edu!master.cs.rose-hulman.edu!news@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (William D. Jones)
Subject: transport from ibm
Message-ID: <1bicpiINNb1h@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>

This may seem somewhat trivial to this group, but is there a way to  
transfer information to a commodore computer in cpm mode from an ibm  
compatible disk?  What exactly is kermit?

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INFO-CPM Digest             Tue, 20 Oct 92       Volume 92 : Issue  115

Today's Topics:
           apple II --> IBMPC --> ADAM cp/m 2.2 conversion
           embedded systems engineering position available
                          h19/h89 CRT wanted
                      MANUALS NEEDED (M80 & L80
                        Re: 5v out serial port
                Re: z80 assembler suggestions desired
               Thanks to CP/M transfer to DOS repliers
                        Turbo Pascal (2 msgs)
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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 92 12:25:27 CDT
From: C588212@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu
Subject: apple II --> IBMPC --> ADAM cp/m 2.2 conversion

I am looking for a program that will allow and IBMPC to read Apple II disks.  I
have a program to transfer PC files to the Coleco Adam but I am lacking the
Apple to IBM jump.  I have used Apple file exchange on the Mac before, but I
don't have an Mac and hate bothering my old High School teacher.  If anyone has
a copy or knows of a FTP site where it may reside please tell me.
      thanks!

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Date: 16 Oct 92 17:26:31 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!caen!sdd.hp.com!sgiblab!sgigate!olivea!news.bbn.com!noc.near.net!news.cs.brandeis.edu!chaos.cs.brandeis.edu!mary@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Mary F Wentworth)
Subject: embedded systems engineering position available
Message-ID: <1992Oct16.172631.28154@news.cs.brandeis.edu>

Houghton Mifflin Co.			Cambridge, MA

Houghton Mifflin designs platform-independent linguistic software. Our
products are written in C on the PC and then ported to a variety of
platforms. We are looking for an engineer capable of porting these
products to a variety of microprocessors, including the Z80. In-circuit
emulation experience a must. Bank switching experience also necessary.

If you're interested, call me.

Mary Wentworth
617-252-3080 


-- 
                               Mary F. Wentworth

			   mary@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu

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Date: 19 Oct 92 16:29:21 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!news.Vanderbilt.Edu!sdvsun1.cc.vanderbilt.edu!wally@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Wally Siddiqui)
Subject: h19/h89 CRT wanted
Message-ID: <1992Oct19.162921.29437@news.vanderbilt.edu>

Hello,

	The screen on my H89A computer recently burnt out and I was
wondering if someone on the net either has a spare CRT or a Heath19 (or
H89) they would like to part with.  I'm willing to pay shipping + a
reasonable amount.  

						Thanks in advance!

							Wally 

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Date: 19 Oct 92 04:55:00 GMT
From: decvax!bville.gts.org!greg.vigneault@decwrl.dec.com (Greg Vigneault)
Subject: MANUALS NEEDED (M80 & L80
Message-ID: <220.540.uupcb@bville.gts.org>

 In message <Bw6DLB.HnJ@lut.fi>
 tepponen@lut.fi (Jussi Tepponen) writes...

JT> I have a problem. I got this old C-compiler disk with M80 and L80
  > on it.  The compiler makes Z80 Mac files, and I have documentation
  > for the compiler. But there is no documentation for the M80 Macro
  > assembler, and nether for the L80 linker.

  > Can anyone help me with this? I just know the /z flag and aseg .z80
  > commands for M80 and the normal linking line (L80 name,name).

 I have the documentation for M80 and L80.

 Any question or problem in particular?

 Greg Vigneault

 Oct.19.1992.Toronto.Canada.
 greg.vigneault@bville.gts.org
    

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Date: 19 Oct 92 16:10:57 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!hellgate.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!ivie@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (CP/M lives!)
Subject: Re: 5v out serial port
Message-ID: <1992Oct19.101057.59826@cc.usu.edu>

In article <1992Oct17.150342.1@hamp.hampshire.edu>, jmolinari@hamp.hampshire.edu writes:
> 	Anybody had their serial port NOT put out the 5 volts it's supposed to?
> Anybody care to take a guess at how diffucult it would be to fix?

It's _supposed_ to put out anything from +/- 3V to +/- 15V. If it isn't,
it's usually the line driver which is rarely difficult to fix. Look for
xx188 or xx189 part numbers by the connectors.

Roger Ivie
ivie@cc.usu.edu

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Date: 2 Oct 92 04:57:16 GMT
From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!m2xenix!clark!pacifier!mikef@uunet.uu.net  (Mike Freeman)
Subject: Re: z80 assembler suggestions desired
Message-ID: <1992Oct2.045716.6696@pacifier.rain.com>

In article <9209291629.AA11124@tmpcu.mdc.com> curts@TMPCU.MDC.COM (Curt Schroeder) writes:
>
>Does anyone know of a good freeware/shareware z80 assembler that can produce
>Microsoft compatible .rel (relocatable) object code?
>

There are several fine freeware Z80 assemblers, the most notable of
which are Z80MR and its successors and offshoots (e.g., Z80MRA and
Z1).  However, none of these will generate relocatable files in
MicroSoft .REL format.  Z80MR can be made to generate relocatable
modules but it takes a special linker, PMLINKER, or some such, to link
these modules together to produce an executable program.

As far as I know, looking for a freeware Z80 assembler that generates
MicroSoft .REL files is about as likely to succeed as a quest in search
of the Fountain of Youth.  In other words, I know of no such animal.

-- 
Mike Freeman <K7UIJ>    |       Internet: mikef@pacifier.rain.com
301 N.E. 107th Street   |         or freeman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu
Vancouver, WA 98685 USA |       GEnie: M.FREEMAN11
Telephone (206)574-8221 |       Loose bits sink chips!

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Date: 15 Oct 92 20:27:26 GMT
From: darwin.sura.net!tulane!rouge!aww7112@gatech.edu  (Wiltz Anthony W)
Subject: Thanks to CP/M transfer to DOS repliers
Message-ID: <1992Oct15.202726.7425@usl.edu>

I would like to thank all the netters who responded to my posting referring 
to CP/M data transfer to DOS.

Sincerely, Wayne

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Date: 19 Oct 92 04:56:00 GMT
From: decvax!bville.gts.org!greg.vigneault@decwrl.dec.com (Greg Vigneault)
Subject: TURBO PASCAL
Message-ID: <221.540.uupcb@bville.gts.org>

DL> I understand that there is a version of turbo pascal for cp/m 2.2.
  > Where can one find this?  What are the system requirements to run
  > turbo pascal on a cp/m machine?  Does it have its own environment
  > as version 3 for MS-DOS?  Any assistance will be welcome.

 Yes, there is/was a CP/M 2.2 version of Turbo Pascal.

 It required a Z80 CPU.

 Yes, it has an integrated environment (edit, compile, etc.).

 Contact Borland Customer Service (customer-support@borland.com) to
 see if/where it is still available.

 Greg Vigneault

 Oct.19.1992.Toronto.Canada.
 greg.vigneault@bville.gts.org
                                       

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Date: 16 Oct 92 02:58:15 GMT
From: att!news.cs.indiana.edu!news.orst.edu!lantis@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (David Lantis)
Subject: Turbo Pascal
Message-ID: <Bw71L6.5x7@news.orst.edu>

I understand that there is a version of turbo pascal for cp/m 2.2.
Where can one find this?  What are the system requirements to run turbo
pascal on a cp/m machine?  Does it have its own environment as version 3
for MS-DOS?  Any assistance will be welcome.

Also, is there a ftp site for a MS-DOS version of a "simple"
telecommunications package that supports modem7 protocol?

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INFO-CPM Digest             Fri, 23 Oct 92       Volume 92 : Issue  116

Today's Topics:
                          5v out serial port
                          apple II --> IBMPC
                        Re: 5v out serial port
                      Re: access with Kaypro IV
                    Re: CP/M data transfer to DOS
                        Re: transport from ibm
                Re: z80 assembler suggestions desired
                   Take my computers please - Free.
                          transport from ibm
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Date: 17 Oct 92 19:03:42 GMT
From: noc.near.net!nic.umass.edu!hamp.hampshire.edu!jmolinari@uunet.uu.net
Subject: 5v out serial port
Message-ID: <1992Oct17.150342.1@hamp.hampshire.edu>

	Anybody had their serial port NOT put out the 5 volts it's supposed to?
Anybody care to take a guess at how diffucult it would be to fix?

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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 92 02:05:07 PDT
From: pallio.UUCP!dg@mis.ucsf.EDU (David Goodenough)
Subject: apple II --> IBMPC
Message-ID: <XX000133dd@pallio.UUCP>

mneufeld@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Michael John Neufeld) sez:
>In article <9210200704.AA23397@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>
>C588212@MIZZOU1.MISSOURI.EDU writes:
>>I am looking for a program that will allow and IBMPC to read
>>Apple II disks. .....
>
>If you're talking about the old Disk II CP/M format (from way back
>in the old ][,][+, and //e days), you might be out of luck.  .....
>From what I gathered by reading comp.sys.apple2 the old Apple
>disks use a radically different encoding method, .....

Yup - that's about the size of it. Like the old Commodore PET and
C64, the Apple uses a GCR recording scheme, which is incompatible
with the MFM hardware in a PC. It's also incompatible with
Commodore's GCR scheme, but that's life. I think you'll find you
gotta get hold of an Apple 2 of some vintage to read those disks.
     dg
---
 + SLMR 2.1a #1246 + Turn your 486 into a Gameboy, type WIN at the C:\>

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Date: 21 Oct 92 12:01:20 GMT
From: eru.mt.luth.se!lunic!sunic!corax.udac.uu.se!tdb!mikaelk@bloom-beacon.mit.edu  (Mikael Kristoffersson)
Subject: Re: 5v out serial port
Message-ID: <1992Oct21.120120.4400@tdb.uu.se>

jmolinari@hamp.hampshire.edu wrote:
: 	Anybody had their serial port NOT put out the 5 volts it's supposed to?
: Anybody care to take a guess at how diffucult it would be to fix?
: 

Common seral ports use RS232 or V.24 standards for their signals. The
signal leves is for binary "0" +3 to + 25 volt. This is also used for high
level on the signal leads. Binary "1" is -3 to -25 volts, also used as low.

The use of +-12v is very common. 0V as low and 5V as high is actually NOT
supported, but it occurs... (and works most of the time...)

That's it

/Mikael Kristoffersson

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Date: 2 Oct 92 21:04:11 GMT
From: haven.umd.edu!darwin.sura.net!newshost.latech.edu!VM.CC.LATECH.EDU!BLICK@ames.arc.nasa.gov
Subject: Re: access with Kaypro IV
Message-ID: <16874D3EB.BLICK@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU>

About a dozen people responded to my requests for suggestions on how to access
Internet with my Kaypro IV computer.
 
Thanks to your suggestions, I have successfully connected.
 
I tried contacting several of you by E-mail, but I couldn't get through, so
please accept my public appreciation for your help. It's nice to be partof
such a helpful group.
 
Eddie Blick
Louisiana Tech University

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Date: 2 Oct 92 16:44:14 GMT
From: daffodil!wyvern!waggen!alpha@ames.arc.nasa.gov  (Joe Wright)
Subject: Re: CP/M data transfer to DOS
Message-ID: <1992Oct2.164414.26980@waggen.twuug.com>

My favorite cp/m comm program is Irv Hoff's IMP (Intelligent Modem Program).
It is available on almost all cp/m bbs systems as IMP244, IMP245, ZIMP
or whatever.  IMP supports XMODEM and YMODEM transfers and straight text.
There are others, MEX for example, which do it too.  Virtually all MSDOS
and UNIX systems 'connected' to phone lines will have programs which
support at least the XMODEM protocol.  If you don't want to wire your
CPM and DOS machines to each other, use IMP on your CPM machine to upload
a file to any friendly bbs.  Then use you DOS machine to call the bbs and
download the file.  Easy.
-- 
Joe Wright  alpha@waggen.twuug.com  

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Date: 19 Oct 92 16:48:51 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!spool.mu.edu!umn.edu!math.fu-berlin.de!dct.zrz.tu-berlin.de!zrz.tu-berlin.de!marie!georg@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Georg Schwarz)
Subject: Re: transport from ibm
Message-ID: <georg.719513331@marie>

In <XX000133ba@pallio.UUCP> dg@pallio.UUCP (David Goodenough) writes:

>joneswd@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (William D. Jones) asks:

>> This may seem somewhat trivial to this group, but is there a way
>> to transfer information to a commodore computer in cpm mode from
>> an ibm compatible disk?  What exactly is kermit?

>Well, there are a couple of options. If you have a 1571 drive and are
>using the CP/M mode of a C128, you can write the information to a
>Kaypro 2 or Kaypro 4 format disk, directly from CP/M. Then you can use
>22DISK on the IBM to read the Kaypro disk.
(BTW: if I remember correctly, the Kypro format is the one with the biggest
capacity (400K?) of all disk formats supported by the C128's CP/M.
So one might even consider using this format [except for the boot disk, of
course] permanently when working with CP/M.)
>Another option would be the program Big Blue Reader for the
>Commodore, which runs in Commodore mode (I believe) but allows you
>to read and write IBM disks directly on the Commodore.

I'm using a PD program called XLINK (running in C128 mode and requiring
a 1571) to transfer files between disks in Commodore and MS-Dos formats.
There is also an option for writing and reading Commodore CP/M disks.
However, XLINK is limited to files shorter than approx. 43K.
If you need a copy I think you can get it via FTP from cco.caltech.edu
at pub/rknop, or I might just mail it to you.

georg@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de

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Date: 2 Oct 92 17:12:08 GMT
From: mentor.cc.purdue.edu!hopf.math.purdue.edu!wilker@purdue.edu  (Clarence Wilkerson)
Subject: Re: z80 assembler suggestions desired
Message-ID: <BvI7sB.5sJ@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>

There is one freeware package, 
look on Simtel20 mirrors under
~cpm/asmutl   :
-rw-rw-r--  1 root        94461 Oct 10  1987 smmaclnk.ark

This written in Small C. It doesn't support the full range of
M80 directives. It doesn't do Common very well. But it does produce
Microsoft format relocatable code.

-- 
Clarence Wilkerson      \ Bitnet:       wilker%math.purdue.edu@purccvm
Prof. of Math. (topology)\ Internet:    wilker@math.purdue.edu
Dept. of Mathematics      \ messages:   (317) 494-1903, FAX 494-0548
Purdue University,         \ office:    (317) 494-1955 (voice/modem)
W. Lafayette, Indiana 47907 \ 

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Date: 2 Oct 92 17:05:03 GMT
From: agate!doc.ic.ac.uk!uknet!ieunet!tcdcs!unix1.tcd.ie!jfsenior@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (John Senior)
Subject: Take my computers please - Free.
Message-ID: <jfsenior.718045503@unix1.tcd.ie>

Before I throw them out, I thought I might as well offer these
computers to everyone - A Northstar Advantage with a 5M hard disk
and a broken monitor (that can be easily replaced by someone in
the US whose address I have.) And an Osborne I portable - its
internal monitor is broken but it has a composite video output
which works just fine.  You pay the shipping and they're yours.
I'll give away the manuals etc. to anyone who wants them - but
obviously I'd rather get rid of the whole lot in one go.

Yours,

John.
--
Jfsenior@vax1.tcd.ie in case you were wondering.

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Date: 18 Oct 92 04:49:24 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!unixbox!dosgate!dosgate![ray.whidden%canrem.com]@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (ray whidden)
Subject: transport from ibm
Message-ID: <199217.4443.3032@dosgate>

In an article from William D. Jones:

WD>This may seem somewhat trivial to this group, but is there a way to
WD>transfer information to a commodore computer in cpm mode from an ibm
WD>compatible disk?  What exactly is kermit?

Sage Microsystems used to sell DOSDisk which ran on the Commodore C=128
with CP/M v3.0 and Z3Plus and reads/writes MS-DOS disks.  Also, Big
Blue Reader, runs in C=128 native mode and reads/writes CBM-CP/M & MS-DOS
disks.  BBR is advertised in recent RUN and Compute magazines.

There are also shareware/freeware products such as TRANS128, which run
in CP/M mode and read/write MS-DOS disks.

CAVEAT: For CP/M to MS-DOS transfers, these programs do not work with a 
C=1541 disk drive.  C=1571 or C=1581 disk drive required.  C=1541 is GCR
recording mode ONLY, C=1571 is GCR or MFM recording and C=1581 is MFM
recording.  MS-DOS disks are MFM recording.

Regards, Ray

Internet: ray.whidden@canrem.com : RIME    : ->CRS : 46 Campania Crescent,
UUCP: canrem!ray.whidden FidoNet: 1:229/15  : Scarborough, Ontario M1V 2E9

 * DeLuxe2 1.21 #4419 * Blue Jays all the way in 1992
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044

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INFO-CPM Digest             Sat, 24 Oct 92       Volume 92 : Issue  117

Today's Topics:
                   C-128 Owners manual needed.....
                             CP/M to DOS
                   Re: 5v out serial port (2 msgs)
                      Re: access with Kaypro IV
                 Re: Take my computers please - Free.
                           Re: WordStar 4.0
                Re: z80 assembler suggestions desired
                           televideo ts-806
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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 92 3:44:54 EDT
From: eudoh@st6000.sct.edu (Etop Udoh)
Subject: C-128 Owners manual needed.....
Message-ID: <9210230744.AA31931@st6000.sct.edu>

hi,


   Just wondering, is it possible to still order the owners manual
pak for the C-128 from Commodore or anyone else, and if so how would
you go about it....??????????????????????
-- 
.....................................................................
:    Etop Udoh                             Eudoh@sct.edu            :
:    3210 Hudson Rd.               Southern College of Technology   :
:    Marietta, Ga 30060                   Marietta, Georgia         :
:                                                                   :
:      Abandon all hope ye who have entered  " CYBERSPACE "         :
:...................................................................:

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 92 12:02:13 PDT
From: pallio.UUCP!dg@mis.ucsf.EDU (David Goodenough)
Subject: CP/M to DOS
Message-ID: <XX000133e4@pallio.UUCP>

rgay@lonestar.utsa.edu (Ray H. Gay) asks:
> Is there software that lets a DOS machine read CP/M disks?

22DISK from Sydex does the job nicely. Available from Simtel20 no
doubt.
     dg
---
 + SLMR 2.1a #1246 + NITRATE: Cheaper than the day rate

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Date: 18 Oct 92 00:20:08 GMT
From: bobsbox.rent.com!spatula!ahm@rutgers.edu  (Andreas Meyer)
Subject: Re: 5v out serial port
Message-ID: <1992Oct18.002008.19916@spatula.rent.com>

jmolinari@hamp.hampshire.edu writes:

> 	Anybody had their serial port NOT put out the 5 volts it's supposed to?
> Anybody care to take a guess at how diffucult it would be to fix?

Not without knowing what kind of machine you're taking about, no.
So how amount a manufacturer and model number?

Andy
-- 
 Andreas Meyer, N2FYE       Dumme Gedanken hat jeder, doch der Weise
 ahm@spatula.rent.com       verschweight sie. -- Wilhelm Busch

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Date: 19 Oct 92 21:18:43 GMT
From: wupost!waikato.ac.nz!comp.vuw.ac.nz!actrix!naos!ewen@g.ms.uky.edu  (Ewen McNeill)
Subject: Re: 5v out serial port
Message-ID: <w0LysB2w164w@naos.actrix.gen.nz>

jmolinari@hamp.hampshire.edu writes:

I was going to email this, but I thought it might save some other people
from asking the same question if I posted it...

> 	Anybody had their serial port NOT put out the 5 volts it's supposed to?
> Anybody care to take a guess at how diffucult it would be to fix?

I'm not sure what you are asking here.  Most serial ports (RS232 style
anyway) that I've come across put out +/- 12V (or so) depending on the
logic state, not 5V.  They are not broken in doing this.

There are some machines (C=64s is one that comes to mind) which came
with serial ports that put out TTL voltages (0/+5), but they aren't that
common.

If you still think that there is a problem with your serial port you may
care to mention what machine you are talking about, and any other
details about the problem (eg, when it stopped working).

--
Ewen McNeill, ewen@naos.actrix.gen.nz (or ewen@actrix.gen.nz)

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Date: 4 Oct 92 00:17:52 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!think.com!rpi!usc!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!silver.ucs.indiana.edu!sl313028@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (O.K. I'm Jon)
Subject: Re: access with Kaypro IV
Message-ID: <BvKM5t.43n@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>

hey, i just gave away my old kaypro II computer to a kid
friend of mine.  he doesn't know too much about computers,
and i guess i'm too lazy to go searching throught the
wuarchives, so i wanted to know if anyone knew of the names
of any good games (text-based or otherwise) and educational
stuff.  the kid is about 14.  


thanx in advance...

jon madison
sl313028@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
(jmmadiso@indyvax.iupui.edu)

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Date: 3 Oct 92 20:20:16 GMT
From: think.com!sdd.hp.com!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!grian!morris@ames.arc.nasa.gov  (Mike Morris)
Subject: Re: Take my computers please - Free.
Message-ID: <1992Oct3.202016.22957@grian.cps.altadena.ca.us>

jfsenior@unix1.tcd.ie (John Senior) writes:

>Before I throw them out, I thought I might as well offer these
>computers to everyone - A Northstar Advantage with a 5M hard disk
>and a broken monitor (that can be easily replaced by someone in
>the US whose address I have.) And an Osborne I portable - its
>internal monitor is broken but it has a composite video output
>which works just fine.  You pay the shipping and they're yours.
>I'll give away the manuals etc. to anyone who wants them - but
>obviously I'd rather get rid of the whole lot in one go.

It'd be nice to know where you are (i.e. if you're local for pickup,
or to do a guesstimate on shipping cost...)

-- 
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PO Box 1130            | 
Arcadia, CA. 91077     | All opinions must be my own since nobody pays
818-447-7052 evenings  | me enough to be their mouthpiece...

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Date: 2 Oct 92 21:31:44 GMT
From: daffodil!wyvern!waggen!alpha@ames.arc.nasa.gov  (Joe Wright)
Subject: Re: WordStar 4.0
Message-ID: <1992Oct2.213144.29241@waggen.twuug.com>

Uwe Nass (UNF315@IBM.RHRZ.UNI-BONN.DE) wrote:
: 
: Hi all,
: 
: I have just read an old release announcement for WordStar 4.0 by
: MicroPro. Up to now, I use version 3.0 (!!) for editing letters
: on my old CP/M computer at home. Since I saw that some nice new
: features are added in version 4.0, I think I should give this
: product a chance, if
: 
:      - somebody can sell me this product with the manuals
: 
:      - the price is okay
: 
: Any hints?
: 
:                                              Thanks in advance
:                                                            Uwe Nass
MicroPro is still in business, somewhere in Northern California. 
Try to call them.  Wordstar 4.0 for CP/M is my choice for 'best'
cp/m editor because it integrates lots of esoteric table-of-contents
and index stuff along with speller and other stuff.  I dunno who can
sell it to you if Micropro won't.  Good luck.


-- 
Joe Wright  alpha@waggen.twuug.com  

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Date: 2 Oct 92 21:19:45 GMT
From: daffodil!wyvern!waggen!alpha@ames.arc.nasa.gov  (Joe Wright)
Subject: Re: z80 assembler suggestions desired
Message-ID: <1992Oct2.211945.28972@waggen.twuug.com>

You can't do better than Al Hawley's ZMAC/ZLNK for $50.
Steve Russel's SLR suite is arguably faster, maybe better
but will cost you $100 or so.  Z80MR etc. just don't come into
view.  If you want something really better than M80/L80, or
RMAC/LINK,  get ZMAC from Al.  

-- 
Joe Wright  alpha@waggen.twuug.com  

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Date: 4 Oct 92 01:52:12 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!darwin.sura.net!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!unixbox!dosgate!dosgate![blair.groves%canrem.com]@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (blair groves)
Subject: televideo ts-806
Message-ID: <1992Oct3.4443.2970@dosgate>

to: jfoy@glia.biostr.washington.edu

Hi Jeff, I tried to send you mail in reply to your message on FIDO, but
this node's FIDONET isn't transmitting yet... AARRGGHH!!!

Anyways, I am Sysop of TeleVideo Station BBS, (416)-507-9608, and you
can contact me voice (416)-507-9606, if you have any further questions
after I explain a few details...

The TS-806/20 has a built-in hard disk, 20 megs unformatted, (but who
uses unformatted hard disks?), 15 megs formatted. That's a good start,
but you might want to install a larger MFM drive. I have two Seagate
ST251-1 drives in a clone tower case, along with the TS-806 motherboard
and hard disk controller...  I run the BBS off a TS-800A connected to
it, and have four other workstations including three CP/M TeleVideo
computers and a MS-DOS machine with TeleVideo's RS-422 card. The sixth
connection has a TS-806C cartridge tape backup unit connected. This is a
great system with lots of potential.

For software, you can run TeleVideo's MMMOST, Software-2000's TurboDOS,
or CBIS's Network-OS. MMMOST is standard issue, and not very friendly or
capable. TurboDOS is very powerful but not too friendly either. CBIS's
Network-OS (my choice) is powerful and easy to use. It let me easily
configure it for different sizes and quantities of hard disks, (up to
four hard disks can run on *certain* TS-806 hard disk controllers), and
there is a patch provided to automatically load time and date to the
system from a Hayes Chronograph on starting the network.

Starting the network... well, its done by RS-422 obviously, and all 15
pins are required, wired straight through. Use round-jacket cable
(twisted pair will give you extended distance), standard 22 guage
stranded core cable. The workstations will auto-boot off the TS-806,
after the network has been started.

Your workstations in all probability are really TeleVideo TS-800A's with
925 keyboards... (the TS-800A, Model 925 and Model 950 terminals all use
the same parts 'cept for the motherboard), you can determine if they are
merely dumb terminals or TS-800A workstations by looking at the rear
panels: if there are only two DB-25 RS-232 connectors and the keyboard
jack, they are indeed dumb terminals. If they have two DB-25 RS-232
connectors, the keyboard jack, *and* a 15 pin RS-422 connector, then you
have TS-800A's.

I can send you lots of information on these beasties, (copies of
manuals, literature sheets, etc... and there are also bulletins and
articles on my BBS (see above), to fill in other details. Also, Sharon
Industries, in San Jose California, (408)-456-1600, can supply you with
parts, manuals, new and used machines etc... Ask for Terry, he has
helped me with a lot of things.

There are a lot of things that I can tell you that you might want to
know, so feel free to give me a ring any time (days/nights) at the above
voice number too.

        /B/

blair.groves@canrem.com
---
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044

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INFO-CPM Digest             Sun, 25 Oct 92       Volume 92 : Issue  118

Today's Topics:
                     Kaypro 4 Master Disks Needed
                   Kaypro IIX and comm programs...
                         Kaypro IV w/Plus 88
                     MYZ80: version 1.03 released
                  Re: access with Kaypro IV (2 msgs)
         Re: apple II --> IBMPC --> ADAM cp/m 2.2 conversion
                 Re: Take my computers please - Free.
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Date: 4 Oct 92 21:26:08 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!sdd.hp.com!news.cs.indiana.edu!noose.ecn.purdue.edu!news@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Keith A Harber)
Subject: Kaypro 4 Master Disks Needed
Message-ID: <1992Oct4.212608.11506@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>

Hi,

I have a Kaypro 4 portable computer, and I need the Master diskettes for
it.  I have the master diskettes for a Kaypro II, which I can use to boot
it, but I seem to have trouble with disk manipulations, and I think it's
because the II masters are SSDD disks, while the drives (I believe) are
DSDD.  In any case, I'd like to have a set of master diskettes that are
DSDD, because if my drive is a SSDD drive, I plan on replacing it with
a DSDD.

Please contact me if you can get me some master diskette copies that are
DSDD.  I'd really appreciate it, since I can't copy, format, or do anything
that uses both of my drives (I don't know for sure if it's the drives or 
the disks, I'm choosing disks for now).

Thanks a lot!

Keith Harber
kharber@ed.ecn.purdue.edu

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Date: 4 Oct 92 02:28:32 GMT
From: agate!overload.lbl.gov!dog.ee.lbl.gov!network.ucsd.edu!sdcc12!sdcc13!jcknox@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (James Knox)
Subject: Kaypro IIX and comm programs...
Message-ID: <38966@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>

I have an old Kaypro IIX computer, and I am looking for basic
communications software.  The computer itself has lost its
usefulness to me, but there are some files on it I would like to
offload, and I would like the option to do so in the future.  Are
there any FTP sites (anonymous) that would have such programs?
Thanks for any help.

jcknox@sdcc13.ucsd.edu

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Date: 4 Oct 92 02:14:00 GMT
From: ub!acsu.buffalo.edu!ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu!v062l48d@rutgers.edu  (Harold J Screven)
Subject: Kaypro IV w/Plus 88
Message-ID: <BvKrJo.8Is@acsu.buffalo.edu>

I Have a Kaypro IV with the Plus 88 board installed and I never
bothered to upgrade the copy of MS-DOS to a newer version, It's 
still in the 1.X version.  The board was manufactured by a company
named SWP I think.  If anyone out there knows of the whereabouts
of a later version of MS-DOS I would be grateful. Thanks.

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Date: 22 Oct 92 05:35:02 GMT
From: micro-heart-of-gold.mit.edu!wupost!waikato.ac.nz!comp.vuw.ac.nz!actrix!naos!ewen@bloom-beacon.mit.edu  (Ewen McNeill)
Subject: MYZ80: version 1.03 released
Message-ID: <4ky3sB1w164w@naos.actrix.gen.nz>

Version 1.03 of MYZ80 was released just recently.  Here is a copy of the
release announcement that was posted on the FidoNet CPMTECH echo.

--- release announcement begins ---
 From : Simeon Cran                 3:714/906.1             16 Oct 92  03:38:14 
 To   : All                                                 22 Oct 92  01:00:26 
 Subj : New MYZ80 version released today!

                      M Y Z 8 0   N E W S ! ! !
                      =========================

It's official!

MYZ80 version 1.03 is released today.


Apart from some minor fixes that a few users required, the really big deal about
version 1.03 is the completely new keyboard support.

You can now redefine virtually any key on the keyboard, even in the middle of
running your favourite piece of CP/M software!



Very soon (and I'll let you all know about it here) MYZ80 version 1.03 will be
available for file request at V32 (9600 baud) speed from 3:640/208. The file is
75k in size and will also appear soon at many other BBSes around the world
(depending a lot on where YOU upload it to!). Available from Z-Node 62 in Perth
from this Sunday (18th) (+61 9 450 0200 - 2400 baud, 24 hours a day). Available
direct from my computer at v32bis (14400 baud) by prior arrangement (netmail me
about this). Available in New Zealand from +64 4 478 3117 at v32bis (14400
baud).


Please note also that my new point address is 3:640/208.3 and I'm always happy
to talk to you via netmail about MYZ80.


--- MYZ80 version 1.03 features over version 1.02: ---
* Upgraded, improved, faster utilities.
* Superb keyboard redefinition system.
* A few minor fixes.
* Complete and up-to-date MYZ80 API information.
* Support for DOS interrupt 14h (to allow for the use of a FOSSIL communications
driver).
* Some new API functions.
* Support for the undocumented Z80 instructions (registered version only).
* The correct ZPM3/CPM 3.0 files to allow you to run CP/M 3.0 on MYZ80.


Thousands and thousands more CP/M 2.2 and CP/M 3.0 capable computers have just
been born, thanks to MYZ80!


--- msgedsq/2 2.1a
 * Origin: Simeon's Point. Home of MYZ80 and ZPM3. Z80 lives!!! (3:714/906.1)
--- release announcement ends ---

I've got ZPM3 working now in my system, and got Z3PLUS going too.  The
API document looks to be very very useful, and the FOSSIL support should
prove useful for running a RCPM on a DOS machine (a FOSSIL provides
reasonable, buffered, serial IO for a DOS machine).  The new keyboard
support is amazing - a pop up window which can redefine any key
combination at any time.

Those people who emailed me about the previous version of MyZ80 can
retrieve the new version from the same place as MYZ80103.ZIP.  I
request, again, that you upload it to other FTP sites around the world.
To everyone else please be patient and wait until it arrives on FTP
sites around the world, as FTP to New Zealand is both slow and also
costs real money to NZ sites.  Thank you for your patience.

--
Ewen McNeill, ewen@naos.actrix.gen.nz (or ewen@actrix.gen.nz)

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Date: 4 Oct 92 20:25:38 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.unomaha.edu!cwis.unomaha.edu!haworth@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Dwight A. Haworth)
Subject: Re: access with Kaypro IV
Message-ID: <1992Oct4.202538.16637@news.unomaha.edu>

The best of the games for the II would be the original Adventure game.
It should be available the bbs that still serve the CPM community.
There are other text based adventures and games like STRTRK that use
character graphics.  Some of these require BASIC to run, but that should
 be no problem if you had all of the original Kaypro software.  The
Compuserve Computer Club forum would be a good place to look.

------------------------------

Date: 4 Oct 92 22:57:33 GMT
From: world!bmarcum@uunet.uu.net  (Bill Marcum)
Subject: Re: access with Kaypro IV
Message-ID: <BvMD3y.GvJ@world.std.com>

Most arcade-type games don't work well on a character screen with keyboard
input, but there's a CP/M version of Tetris called T20 that I've enjoyed
playing.  I think I downloaded it from the GEnie CP/M library.

------------------------------

Date: 20 Oct 92 19:22:54 GMT
From: phoenix.Princeton.EDU!mneufeld@princeton.edu  (Michael John Neufeld)
Subject: Re: apple II --> IBMPC --> ADAM cp/m 2.2 conversion
Message-ID: <1992Oct20.192254.20500@Princeton.EDU>

In article <9210200704.AA23397@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> C588212@MIZZOU1.MISSOURI.EDU writes:
>I am looking for a program that will allow and IBMPC to read Apple II disks.  I
>have a program to transfer PC files to the Coleco Adam but I am lacking the
>Apple to IBM jump.  I have used Apple file exchange on the Mac before, but I
>don't have an Mac and hate bothering my old High School teacher.  If anyone has
>a copy or knows of a FTP site where it may reside please tell me.
>      thanks!

If you're talking about the old Disk II CP/M format (from way back
in the old ][,][+, and //e days), you might be out of luck.  I recently
spent some time looking around for such a program so that I could
convert some old 5.25" Apple CP/M disks to my IBM without having to actually
get a hold of an Apple (my ][+ got stolen).  From what I gathered by
reading comp.sys.apple2 (and from doing archie searches and finding
programs to convert from IBM to just about everything EXCEPT Apple), the
old Apple disks use a radically different encoding method, fundamentally
incompatible with IBM drives.  (I'm not sure exactly what the differences are)  The newer Apple drives, however, are supposed to be able to read/write
IBM format, but then you'd need an Apple to actually do the writing. 
Of course you could do a direct serial port connection, but then, again, 
you'd need an Apple to connect with.  If anybody out there has got a program 
that'll prove me wrong, I'd like to get a copy!

-Mike
-- 
*****************
Michael Neufeld - Princeton University, Computer Science Dept.
Internet e-mail: mneufeld@phoenix.princeton.edu
Rocky & Bullwinkle in '92.

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Date: 4 Oct 92 22:52:26 GMT
From: world!bmarcum@uunet.uu.net  (Bill Marcum)
Subject: Re: Take my computers please - Free.
Message-ID: <BvMCvF.GM7@world.std.com>

What country is ".ie"?  Ireland?  Iceland?

Bill Marcum  bmarcum@world.std.com

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 92 21:46:03 MST
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Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #119
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INFO-CPM Digest             Mon, 26 Oct 92       Volume 92 : Issue  119

Today's Topics:
                   Computer Journal issues for sale
                          Kaypro 4 keyboard
                 Re: Osborne Vixen System Disk Wanted
               Re: Recover files like program.czm (_?_)
            Re: Televideo TS806/20 Info Requested (2 msgs)
                             Wordstar 4.0
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Date: 20 Oct 92 12:29:03 GMT
From: sgigate!psinntp!psinntp!blkbox!mknewman@rutgers.edu  (Marc Kraker Newman)
Subject: Computer Journal issues for sale
Message-ID: <1992Oct20.122903.2965@blkbox>

I have about 25 issues of The Computer Journal, which specializes in CPM and
the Z80, which I will let go to the first check for $25 I get.  Shipping is
included.

Marc Newman
PO Box 591822
Houston, TX 77259-1822


-- 
Marc K. Newman (N5SLG)			Is UNIX pronounced 
mknewman@blkbox.com or			"UNIQUES" or
blkbox!mknewman				"EUNICHS"?

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Date: 24 Oct 92 22:18:04 GMT
From: mintaka.lcs.mit.edu!olivea!spool.mu.edu!umn.edu!whale!george@bloom-beacon.mit.edu  (Rogers George)
Subject: Kaypro 4 keyboard
Message-ID: <1992Oct24.221804.25095@news2.cis.umn.edu>

Ok, many, many thanks to the good people who got me boot disks for the
old K-4, it boots just fine. Now, only one teeny-weeny problem remains...

I discovered I don't have a working keyboard cable!

The K-4 keyboard conection is a 4-position modular. I tried an old terminal
(vt220 I think) keyboard cable I had laying around, then hacked it so the pins
were straight through (pin 1 to 1, etc., UNlike telephone handset cords) and
tried again. No go.

What are the pin assignments for this puppy? Is just one* of the pairs
reversed? are the inside and outside pairs swapped somewhere along the line?
Did I fry my keyboard on the first try? (if so, what did I fry? can I fix it?
does a kb like this exist anywhere else in creation?)

Thank you... (moan)

Rogers George
geor0007@student.tc.umn.edu

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Date: 29 Sep 92 04:35:30 GMT
From: portal!cup.portal.com!Jeffry_A_Mickey@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Re: Osborne Vixen System Disk Wanted
Message-ID: <66808@cup.portal.com>

>
>      I'm looking for a System Disk for the OSBORNE VIXEN.  Will
>      pay costs of media, mailer, and postage.
>
>      Keeper of the CP/M System Disk Archive for the Dino(saur)-SIG
>      of the San Diego Computer Society          donm@crash.cts.com
>

 		Disks for the Vixen are no problem, and no charge.
Where do I send them?
				jeff Mickey

	jmic@cup.portal.com

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Date: 21 Oct 92 12:56:44 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!ccwf.cc.utexas.edu@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Bruce G. Bostwick)
Subject: Re: Recover files like program.czm (_?_)
Message-ID: <82067@ut-emx.uucp>

In article <Bw57Cn.3DK@news.orst.edu> lantis@math.orst.edu (David Lantis) writes:
>I have some files (downloaded from ftp site) that have the form
>program.czm and wish to know what compression/archive utility is
>required to restore them.  I assume suffixes like czm are similar to
>suffixes like cqm ( SQueeze and UnSQueeze ) in that some archive utility
>has been used on them.  Also, along the same lines where can I find a
>utility that restores *.ark files?

*.?Z? = CRUNCHED file (use CRUNCH.COM or UNCRUNCH.COM).
can't help with *.ark (although *.arc means use UNARC.COM).
*.lbr = library file (use NULU.COM)

BTW, I think this qualifies as a FAQ, doesn't it?

-- 
<BGB>
lihan@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu        /     "I can't complain,
(really Bruce Bostwick)        /   but sometimes I still do"
from the great state of TEXAS /         --Joe Walsh--

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Date: 29 Sep 92 05:29:26 GMT
From: crash!donm@nosc.mil  (Don Maslin)
Subject: Re: Televideo TS806/20 Info Requested
Message-ID: <1992Sep28.222927.7088@crash>

I think that the 'Winch' slots you mention are probably for an external 
drive.  There should be an internal one.  Also, on the back panel should
be a 25 pin connector marked Terminal.  On the machine that I have seen, 
this was for the 'master' terminal - the others were for 'slave' or 
'satellite' terminals.

I have a couple of disks with the MmmOST files on them, but neither are 
bootable.  I'd be very interested in a copy of a CP/M 2.2 system disk if
you get one, and also a bootable TurboDOS floppy if someone runs across
one.

 
      Keeper of the CP/M System Disk Archive for the Dino(saur)-SIG
      of the San Diego Computer Society          donm@crash.cts.com
 

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Date: 29 Sep 92 08:13:13 GMT
From: mcsun!sun4nl!freya.let.rug.nl!rug4!laverman@uunet.uu.net  (Bert Laverman)
Subject: Re: Televideo TS806/20 Info Requested
Message-ID: <1992Sep29.081313.21253@cs.rug.nl>

Jeff Foy writes:
> Today I was given a system that is tagged as TS-806/20.
Hey, here we go again. The Televideo's seem to be in their retirement phase ;-)

> I'm assuming, at 
> least for the moment, that it is a TS-806 computer with a 20 meg hard 
> drive. (I know there's a hard drive but I've not been able to determine 
> what kind it is yet)
Correct. The TS806-10 had a 10Mb drive. Actually, you'll have only 17MB
to use. :-(

> The system came with five TeleVideo 925 terminals with keyboards.
Thos should be TS800-A's, which are full Z80 systems, but without disks.

> According to what little info came with the system, it seems to run a 
> network-type system called MmmOST with CP/M R 2.2.
Mmmost is a program that runs on the 806, and takes care of the 800's disk I/O.
It also provides a rough form of protection, and some printer spooling.

> Ok, the problems:
>  1) No boot disk. (5.25" floppy drive so assuming this should be a 5.25" 
>     floppy diskette -- about 368k I'd imagine.
It should boot from the HD. Press the reset button again immediately after
booting if it tries to boot from floppy.

>  2) No cable for the hard drive. Two openings on the rear of the machine 
>     are labeled WINCH (DATA)  and  WINCH (CONTROL). I'm assuming this is 
>     where the cable is supposed to snake through.
??? The HD should be inside the 806 case.

>  3) The cables for the workstation terminals had been severed so I'll 
>     probably need new ones. They seem to be RS-422 D-style connections 
>     (15-pins).
As far as I know that is the case.

> The questions:
> 
>  1) Where can I get a boot disk either with or without MmmOST? Cost?
If noone in your neighbourhood can help you, I'll send a copy.

>  2) Where can I get an appropriate hard drive cable? Cost?
I'm not sure. I had a 806/20, but it was scrapped when the HD gave out.
Maybe the cables are still somewhere...

>  3) Will any RS-422 cables work? If not, where can I get the right type 
>     for this setup?
I can check the hardware manual if you like.

> The sooner I can get this system online, the sooner I can finish up CP/M 
> ZIP as my other CP/M system (BMC if800) bit the big one about three 
> weeks ago.
As I said, Help in the states would be fastest, but I'm available as
backup :-)

Greetings, Bert
-- 
#include <std/disclaimer>

  Bert Laverman,  Dept. of Computing Science, Groningen University
  Friendly mail to: laverman@cs.rug.nl      The rest to: /dev/null

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 92 08:53:48 -0600
From: curts@tmpcu.mdc.com (Curt Schroeder)
Subject: Wordstar 4.0
Message-ID: <9210261453.AA12703@tmpcu.mdc.com>

Wordstar 4.0 in no longer available from MicroPro, but it can be had from
a company that Micropro gave distribution rights to.  I don't have the company
name and address handy (the infor is at home).  Someone else posted the infor
during the last month or so.  So perhaps that person could post the info 
again for Uwe Nass?

Curt

P.S. My fingers have not completely woke up yet, evidently.  The word "infor"
above should have been "info."

Curt Schroeder | McDonnell Douglas, St. Louis | curts@tmpcu.mdc.com   |
----------------------------------------------| c1891@slvaxa.umsl.edu |
These opinions are mine, mine, mine!  I am    |-----------------------|
not an instantiation of Std_Employee!         | - Apple II Forever -  |



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Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #120
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INFO-CPM Digest             Wed, 28 Oct 92       Volume 92 : Issue  120

Today's Topics:
                             CP/M to DOS
                           Re: CP/M to DOS
                 Re: What the heck is this thing????
                Re: z80 assembler suggestions desired
                      televideo ts806/20 info r
                   Transfer cp/m files to elsewhere
                   What the heck is this thing????
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Date: 21 Oct 92 22:59:40 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!news!vela!m.cs.uiuc.edu!cs.uiuc.edu!wupost!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!ringer!lonestar.utsa.edu!rgay@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Ray H. Gay)
Subject: CP/M to DOS
Message-ID: <1992Oct21.225940.21818@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>

Is there software that lets a DOS machine read CP/M disks?  I would apprec.

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Date: 22 Oct 92 14:09:37 GMT
From: crash!donm@nosc.mil  (Don Maslin)
Subject: Re: CP/M to DOS
Message-ID: <1992Oct22.070937.23220@crash>

Both 22Disk by Sydex - shareware -  and UniForm by MicroSolutions - commercial - will permit reading a wide selection of CP/M disk formats.

 
              Sydex
              P.O. Box 5700
              Eugene, OR  97405
              Voice:  (503)  683-6033
              FAX:    (503)  683-1622
              Data:   (503)  683-1385
 
                Micro Solutions, Inc.
                132 West Lincoln Hwy.
                DeKalb IL 60115
                (815) 756-3411
 

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Date: 23 Oct 92 17:42:57 GMT
From: interlan.InterLan.COM!rimail.interlan.com!klosp@uunet.uu.net  (Patrick Klos)
Subject: Re: What the heck is this thing????
Message-ID: <klosp.32.719862176@rimail.interlan.com>

In article <BwI63n.9C5@ns1.nodak.edu> wilken@plains.NoDak.edu (Scott Wilken) writes:
>From: wilken@plains.NoDak.edu (Scott Wilken)
>Subject: What the heck is this thing????
>Date: 22 Oct 92 03:09:22 GMT
>A friend of mine just bought what he thought was an apple compatable
>machine at some sort of swap meet.  Upon getting it home he could not
>get it to boot with any of his apple disks so he asked me to look at it.
>
>I opened it up, and found the drive to have the connectors one would
>expect to find on a PC clone (card edge and power in the familiar size
>and shape).  The thing CANT be an apple clone as it has 256k memory.
>
>The obvious thing to do was to check what type of microprocessor it uses,
>but I dont see anything familiar to me.  It has a soldered in hitachi
>chip numbered 6505, and a square chip in a square socket with no lettering
>on it (although a big heat sink is attached, so im thinking this thing myst
>be the CPU). 
>
>It wont accept a DOS disk, so im figuring it must be a CPM machine or 
>something.
>
>Has anyone seen this?  It was made in 1984 by Wang and has a model number of
>WOA-20.  If anyone has any info on what the heck this is, and what operating
>system it uses, or at least can tell me how to contact Wang, I would be
>very grateful.
>
>Thanks...
>
>Scott
>-- 
>Go FAST!            |  Internet:  wilken@plains.nodak.edu   |     AMA #587126 
>Take Chances!       |     UUCP: ..!uunet!plains!wilken      |     DoD #0087 
>VF700F Interceptor  |        Bitnet:  WILKEN@PLAINS         |   

My best guess is it's a "Wang Office Assistant".  Meaning it's NOT 
compatible with ANYTHING!  After that, contact Wang in Lowell.  I think the 
number is (508) 459-5000.

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Date: 2 Oct 92 04:57:16 GMT
From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!m2xenix!clark!pacifier!mikef@uunet.uu.net  (Mike Freeman)
Subject: Re: z80 assembler suggestions desired
Message-ID: <1992Oct2.045716.6696@pacifier.rain.com>

In article <9209291629.AA11124@tmpcu.mdc.com> curts@TMPCU.MDC.COM (Curt Schroeder) writes:
>
>Does anyone know of a good freeware/shareware z80 assembler that can produce
>Microsoft compatible .rel (relocatable) object code?
>

There are several fine freeware Z80 assemblers, the most notable of
which are Z80MR and its successors and offshoots (e.g., Z80MRA and
Z1).  However, none of these will generate relocatable files in
MicroSoft .REL format.  Z80MR can be made to generate relocatable
modules but it takes a special linker, PMLINKER, or some such, to link
these modules together to produce an executable program.

As far as I know, looking for a freeware Z80 assembler that generates
MicroSoft .REL files is about as likely to succeed as a quest in search
of the Fountain of Youth.  In other words, I know of no such animal.

-- 
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Date: 5 Oct 92 04:59:46 GMT
From: uunet.ca!unixbox!dosgate!dosgate![blair.groves%canrem.com]@uunet.uu.net  (blair groves)
Subject: televideo ts806/20 info r
Message-ID: <19924.4443.2984@dosgate>

Don Maslin writes:

.
-> I think that the 'Winch' slots you mention are probably for an
-> external drive.  There should be an internal one.  Also, on the back
-> panel should be a 25 pin connector marked Terminal.  On the machine
-> that I have seen, this was for the 'master' terminal - the others
-> were for 'slave' or 'satellite' terminals.

This is accurate. The Winch data and control openings are for the
external second hard disk unit (MFM 5.25" ST-412/506 interface). The
internal drive came in 10, 15, and 40 meg varieties.

There are two RS-232 connectors: one for the console terminal, the other
generally used for a serial printer (I use it for a Hayes Chronograph),
and a standard 36-pin Centronics parallel port.

The remaining six connectors are RS-422 NETWORK connections, DB-15, at
800Kbps, over 500 feet, (some have run 1000 feet long). The RS-422
connections are for Networked Workstations that boot off the TS-806.
These can be any TS-800, 800A, 801, 802, 803, 804, TPC (portable),
remote workstation processor (RWP), CP/M-86 TS-1603, or even a MS-DOS
workstation with TeleVideo's RS-422 card. A tape cartridge drive also
can plug in at the sixth workstation port.

Each Workstation is a full-fleged computer, that runs the applications
stored on the TS-806's hard disk(s), in workstation memory, and can
print on local or TS-806 attached printers.

Operating systems for the TS-806 include CP/M 2.2 with TeleVideo's
MMMost network software, Software 2000's TurboDOS, and CBIS's
Network-OS.

Anyone who needs help with any TeleVideo CP/M computer is more than
welcome to send me E-mail, at the following:

        blair.groves@canrem.com

Blair
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Date: 30 Sep 92 10:15:31 GMT
From: mcsun!sun4nl!wn1.sci.kun.nl!sci.kun.nl!adridg@uunet.uu.net  (Adriaan de Groot)
Subject: Transfer cp/m files to elsewhere
Message-ID: <BvDz5w.Ixp@sci.kun.nl>

Sketch of the situation: there's about 30 cp/m machines
'round here -- ICL Quadra, with one 5 1/4" floppy
(no idea 'bout density) and a 10M hard disk. The stuff
on the hard disk needs to be transferred to a UNIX system.

			----

But how? There's a COM port on these machines, so if
some kind soul can provide KERMIT or so, we could download
the contents to the UNIX system directly. An alternative
is to find a way of reading floppies from these ICLs on
an MS DOS machine (if I can find one with a 5 1/4" drive)
and I can deal with further transfers myself.

Would 22DISK work? I've seen this mentioned several times
here, I'm sure I can dredge up an XT to read the floppies
with. However, I need to get said 22DISK, and that's
easier said than done (really?)

Can someone point me to, say, a European cp/m users group,
an ftp site for a program to read cp/m floppies. How
'bout vaguely useful hints? Could use them, too.

If you need more tech information about these ICL machines,
mail me and I'll look it up. EMail to adridg@sci.kun.nl.
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Date: 22 Oct 92 03:09:22 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wupost!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!usenet.coe.montana.edu!news.u.washington.edu!ns1.nodak.edu!plains.NoDak.edu!wilken@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Scott Wilken)
Subject: What the heck is this thing????
Message-ID: <BwI63n.9C5@ns1.nodak.edu>

A friend of mine just bought what he thought was an apple compatable
machine at some sort of swap meet.  Upon getting it home he could not
get it to boot with any of his apple disks so he asked me to look at it.

I opened it up, and found the drive to have the connectors one would
expect to find on a PC clone (card edge and power in the familiar size
and shape).  The thing CANT be an apple clone as it has 256k memory.

The obvious thing to do was to check what type of microprocessor it uses,
but I dont see anything familiar to me.  It has a soldered in hitachi
chip numbered 6505, and a square chip in a square socket with no lettering
on it (although a big heat sink is attached, so im thinking this thing myst
be the CPU). 

It wont accept a DOS disk, so im figuring it must be a CPM machine or 
something.

Has anyone seen this?  It was made in 1984 by Wang and has a model number of
WOA-20.  If anyone has any info on what the heck this is, and what operating
system it uses, or at least can tell me how to contact Wang, I would be
very grateful.

Thanks...

Scott
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INFO-CPM Digest             Fri, 30 Oct 92       Volume 92 : Issue  121

Today's Topics:
                         22disk entry wanted
                   Adding 5"1/4 to Xerox820II ????
                          apple ii --> ibmpc
                    Chess problem solver for CP/M
                              HX20 Mode
                        Missing DataStar file
             Re: Chris Rutowski -- Rising Star Industries
                             wordstar 4.0
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Date: 27 Oct 92 08:34:30 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!paladin.american.edu!news.univie.ac.at!hp4at!mcsun!sun4nl!wn1.sci.kun.nl!sci.kun.nl!adridg@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Adriaan de Groot)
Subject: 22disk entry wanted
Message-ID: <BwruHJ.Aqq@sci.kun.nl>

A while back I asked about copying files
from CP/M to MSDOS, and eight of you wrote
back 'use 22disk,' so I ftped it from
Berlin, and it's great. Thanks y'all.

-BUT- There's no ICL model 35/36 entry in
the ftp distribution. You need to register
before you get that entry. There's the rub --
my boss would really like to see an actual
result before mailing the $100 to Sydex
(site license, ya know...)

SO -- could I ask someone (all eight of you?)
to Email me the relevant chunk of the file --
the disk parameters for an ICL model 35/36 or
an ICL Quattro (dunno if that's in the list) --
then, heck, I'd be eternally grateful.



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+   announcement...with guitars!+                       +

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+   announcement...with guitars!+                       +

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Date: 5 Oct 92 15:52:28 GMT
From: agate!doc.ic.ac.uk!uknet!mcsun!news.funet.fi!news.lut.fi!messmer@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Willi Messmer)
Subject: Adding 5"1/4 to Xerox820II ????
Message-ID: <Bvno3I.10y@lut.fi>

I have a Xerox 820-II with the 8" drive package. I would like to add 5"1/4
drives to it. There excists a 5"1/4 package without any extra offboard
controller, is this correct ? The thing I would have to do, make a cable, 
right ?

If it is so, please mail me the pin-out of the diskconnector.

Willi
messmer@lut.fi

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Date: 25 Oct 92 10:33:24 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!unixbox!dosgate!dosgate![blair.groves%canrem.com]@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (blair groves)
Subject: apple ii --> ibmpc
Message-ID: <1992Oct25.4443.3057@dosgate>

-> >C588212@MIZZOU1.MISSOURI.EDU writes:
-> >>I am looking for a program that will allow and IBMPC to read
-> >>Apple II disks. .....
-> >
-> >If you're talking about the old Disk II CP/M format (from way back
-> >in the old ][,][+, and //e days), you might be out of luck.  .....
-> >From what I gathered by reading comp.sys.apple2 the old Apple
-> >disks use a radically different encoding method, .....


You can use Uniform-PC and the MatchPoint-PC card in your IBM to read
these disks. MicroSolutions Computer Products makes both these products.
The address info for MicroSolutions is:

        MicroSolutions Computer Products
        132 W. Lincoln Highway
        DeKalb, Illinois,
        60115
        U.S.A.

        (815)-756-3411

They also have controller cards that sllow you to hook up 8 inch floppy
drives to your IBM PC too.

Let us all know if this helps.

blair.groves@canrem.com
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Date: 22 Oct 92 17:18:40 GMT
From: haven.umd.edu!darwin.sura.net!Sirius.dfn.de!Urmel.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE!kaa!bernie@ames.arc.nasa.gov  (Bernhard Pruemmer)
Subject: Chess problem solver for CP/M
Message-ID: <bernie.719774320@kaa>

Hello there,

recently I found out about spreading news around via Internet News, so here
is what I want to post.

A few years ago I developed a program for solving chess problems of the
mate-in-N-moves kind.
Actually, I did not develop it entirely. The program is based on an old
program written for the Sinclair ZX81.
Nonetheless, I put some work into this program to make it run nice and sweet
under CP/M, and I think it's a cinch to use.

What the program requires is :

- Turbo Pascal 3.0 ( v2.0 and 1.0 might work, too - I don't know )
  Don't be afraid, the solving routines are written in machine language.
  The user interface is written in Pascal.

I think that's it. The machine language routines are written in Z80 code,
so a Zilog Z80 CPU is required, but since Turbo Pascal requires this chip
as well, this is no further restriction.

Anyone interested ?
If so, please send me a mail, and in replay I'll send you the source files
via mail.
Currently, no english document file exists, but if there's some response
this file can be created easily.

My e-mail address is:

	bernie@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de

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Date: 25 Oct 92 04:04:58 GMT
From: pa.dec.com!nntpd2.cxo.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!sousa.ltn.dec.com!kxovax.enet.dec.com!secrist@decwrl.dec.com  (Strong datatypes for weak minds.)
Subject: HX20 Mode
Message-ID: <2052@sousa.ltn.dec.com>

	You can probably make some intelligent guesses using more recent
	stuff like a PX-8, etal.

	I believe there is an Epson group with a BBS someplace and/or on
	CompuServe.

	Regards,
	rcs

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Date: 21 Oct 92 22:34:57 GMT
From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!scd.hp.com!hpscdm!hplextra!hpcss01!hpergfg2!hprdash!hprnd!wgh@ames.arc.nasa.gov  (Bill Hooper)
Subject: Missing DataStar file
Message-ID: <450003@hprnd.rose.hp.com>

Well it appears that I have managed to delete a portion of my DataStar.
One of the overlay files is called BATCH.COM or BATCH.OVL and I deleted
it. If anyone can help with a new copy I would appreciate it. Oh, yes
I tried my various utilites to recover it and I wasn't successful.

Bill Hooper
Hewlett Packard
Systems Technology Division, Systems Interface Lab
wgh@hprnd.rose.hp.com 
(916) 785-5135
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Date: 28 Oct 92 05:55:26 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!newshub.sdsu.edu!ucselx!crash!cwr@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Will Rose)
Subject: Re: Chris Rutowski -- Rising Star Industries
Message-ID: <1992Oct27.215527.7166@crash>

The kindest thing to say about Valdocs was that it was ahead of its
time.  I suppose it must have its staunch adherents, but they are
pretty rare.  I always thought that it was Epson America's insistance
on sticking with Rutowski and Valdocs that brought the QX10 down.
When you look at the graphics routines in the BIOS there's some
amazing stuff in there - but I managed to find the documentation only
a couple of years ago, about five years too late...  The QX-10 is a
strong contender for 'best CP/M machine built', just as the PX-8 might
be the best CP/M portable.  I don't know why Epson didn't turn into
Toashiba after that strong a start.

Will
cwr@crash.cts.com

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Date: 5 Oct 92 15:16:26 GMT
From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!unixbox!dosgate!dosgate![ray.whidden%canrem.com]@ames.arc.nasa.gov  (ray whidden)
Subject: wordstar 4.0
Message-ID: <1992Oct5.4443.2986@dosgate>

In an article from Joe Wright:

JW>MicroPro is still in business, somewhere in Northern California.
JW>Try to call them.  Wordstar 4.0 for CP/M is my choice for 'best'
JW>cp/m editor because it integrates lots of esoteric table-of-contents
JW>and index stuff along with speller and other stuff.  I dunno who can
JW>sell it to you if Micropro won't.  Good luck.

A year or more ago, Micropro officially changed their name to WORDSTAR, 
INC.  I doubt you'd be able to find them by the old name now.

Regards, Ray

Internet: ray.whidden@canrem.com : RIME    : ->CRS : 46 Campania Crescent,
UUCP: canrem!ray.whidden FidoNet: 1:229/15  : Scarborough, Ontario M1V 2E9

 * DeLuxe2 1.21 #4419 * Blue Jays all the way in 1992
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INFO-CPM Digest             Sat, 31 Oct 92       Volume 92 : Issue  122

Today's Topics:
                      network_os 5.x tech man'l
                         network_os boot prom
                        Re: 5v out serial port
                 Re: Adding 5"1/4 to Xerox820II ????
         Re: apple II --> IBMPC --> ADAM cp/m 2.2 conversion
                           Re: CP/M to DOS
                      televideo rwp tech manual
                      televideo wordstar eproms
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Date: 26 Oct 92 14:09:07 GMT
From: sun-barr!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!unixbox!dosgate!dosgate![blair.groves%canrem.com]@ames.arc.nasa.gov  (blair groves)
Subject: network_os 5.x tech man'l
Message-ID: <1992Oct26.4443.3069@dosgate>

Does anyone have the Technical Manual for CBIS's Network-OS, version 5.0
or higher? I will pre-pay for duplication, mailing and handling costs.

Thanks!

blair.groves@canrem.com
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Date: 26 Oct 92 14:09:07 GMT
From: sun-barr!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!unixbox!dosgate!dosgate![blair.groves%canrem.com]@ames.arc.nasa.gov  (blair groves)
Subject: network_os boot prom
Message-ID: <1992Oct26.4443.3068@dosgate>

I am *desperatley* seeking the boot prom that goes in the TeleVideo
RS-422 card for the IBM PC compatibles, to let it boot remotely from a
TeleVideo TS-806 or TS-816 (and possibly PM-4 or PM-16), running CBIS's
Network-OS operating system. Please let me know if you have one, know
where I can get one, or have ever heard of one.

Thanks!

blair.groves@canrem.com
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Date: 28 Oct 92 15:20:48 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!malgudi.oar.net!caen!uflorida!nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu!DHBHM@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Bruce H. McIntosh)
Subject: Re: 5v out serial port
Message-ID: <1688E9FA1.DHBHM@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu>

In article <1992Oct17.150342.1@hamp.hampshire.edu>
jmolinari@hamp.hampshire.edu writes:
>Anybody had their serial port NOT put out the 5 volts it's supposed to?
>Anybody care to take a guess at how diffucult it would be to fix?
 
If your serial port is a real, live RS232 (RS232 standard - there's a front
runner for oxymoron of the month! :-) ), it is NOT supposed to put out 5vdc!
RS232 works with a voltage swing of +/- 9vdc.
 
Bruce H. McIntosh    brucem@neufhou.mail.ufl.edu            Jesus has risen!
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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1992 07:47:40 PST
From: Sprague.Wbst311@xerox.com
Subject: Re: Adding 5"1/4 to Xerox820II ????
Message-ID: <"30-Oct-92 10:47:40 EST".*.Michael_D._Sprague.wbst311@Xerox.com>

> There excists a 5" 1/4 package without any extra offboard controller,
> is this correct?

Yes, though I don't like the fact that it draws it's power from the 820 itself,
rather than having it's own power supply.  That is the reason that the 16/8 was
not offered with 5.25" disks (unless you had the Disk Expansion Module or DEM).
The power supply was not spec'ed to supply power for the 820-II, the 16/8 board
_AND_ the 5.25" drives (though many could actually do it).  In any case, if you
make your own cable, _don't_ try to power the floppy drives from the 820, using
ribbon cable!!!  :-)

The floppy controller in the 820-II and 16/8 (and the built in controller in
the 820)  works for both 8" and 2.5" drives.  Pin 2 on the 37 pin interface
told the controler which type of drive was attached.  If open, then 8" drives
were connected, if closed, then 5.25" drives were connected.  So this pin must
be grounded, if you want to add 5.25" drives.


Xerox 820-II Disk Drive Connector (J1)

 1	n.c.
 2	8/5" Select	(open=8"/ground=5")
 3	Two Sided	(Optional signal)
 4	Index
 5	Drive Select 1
 6	Drive Select 2
 7	Side Select
 8	Head Load
 9	Direction Select
10	Step
11	Write Data
12	Write Gate
13	Track 0
14	Write Protect
15	Read Data
16	Low Current	(Optional 8" signal)
17	Drive Ready	(8" only)
18	+12 Vdc
19	+5 Vdc
--	--------------
20	Ground
21	Ground
22	Ground
23	Ground
24	Ground
25	Ground
26	Ground
27	Ground
28	Ground
29	Ground
30	Ground
31	Ground
32	Ground
33	Ground
34	Ground
35	Ground
36	+12 V Return
37	+5 V Return

Note that there is no MOTOR ON signal, as 8" drives did not use it.  You need
the type of 5.25" drives that have a jumper to internally tie Drive Select to
Motor On (the 360K Chinnon's I have do this).  If you don't have drives that do
this, you will need to create an interface, something like IBM's "twisted"
cable, to derive two seperate Motor On signals.

Assuming you connect modern day half height floppys, be sure to run the 820's
CONFIGUR program, and set the floppy step rate from the generic 30 mS (needed
for the old Shugart SA400 drives) to 6 mS, which is used by all modern drives.
This not only will make a noticable speed improvement in the computer, but the
drives will make less noise.

Feel free to contact me if you need more info.

				~ Mike  (sprague.wbst311@xerox.com)

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Date: 28 Oct 92 09:32:51 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!doc.ic.ac.uk!sot-ecs!nwp90@uunet.uu.net  (Nick Phillips)
Subject: Re: apple II --> IBMPC --> ADAM cp/m 2.2 conversion
Message-ID: <13237@ecs.soton.ac.uk>

In <1992Oct20.192254.20500@Princeton.EDU> mneufeld@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Michael John Neufeld) writes:

>IBM format, but then you'd need an Apple to actually do the writing. 
>Of course you could do a direct serial port connection, but then, again, 
>you'd need an Apple to connect with.  If anybody out there has got a program 
>that'll prove me wrong, I'd like to get a copy!

Why not just get another Apple ][ - you can pick them up for next to
nothing, and then you'd be able to play all those wonderful old games
again too...

Nick.

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Date: 28 Oct 92 10:38:49 GMT
From: mcsun!Germany.EU.net!nixpbe!uranium!josef@uunet.uu.net  (Josef Moellers)
Subject: Re: CP/M to DOS
Message-ID: <josef.720268729@uranium>

In <1992Oct21.225940.21818@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> rgay@lonestar.utsa.edu (Ray H. Gay) writes:

>Is there software that lets a DOS machine read CP/M disks?  I would apprec.

I used a program called 22dsk. It's on Simtel somewhere. Probably DSKUTL.
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Date: 26 Oct 92 14:09:06 GMT
From: sun-barr!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!unixbox!dosgate!dosgate![blair.groves%canrem.com]@ames.arc.nasa.gov  (blair groves)
Subject: televideo rwp tech manual
Message-ID: <1992Oct26.4443.3066@dosgate>

Does anyone have a TeleVideo RWP (Remote Workstation Processor)
Maintainance Manual? I need schematics, and technical documentation for
the unit, including printed circuit board layouts and circuit diagrams
to assist in getting a RWP board running.

Thanks!

blair.groves@canrem.com
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Date: 26 Oct 92 14:09:07 GMT
From: sun-barr!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!unixbox!dosgate!dosgate![blair.groves%canrem.com]@ames.arc.nasa.gov  (blair groves)
Subject: televideo wordstar eproms
Message-ID: <1992Oct26.4443.3067@dosgate>

Anybody have one of the WordStar proms that re-defines the TeleVideo
keyboard on a model 925 or model 950 terminal, or TS-800/803/803H/TPC-I
computer to fully support WordStar?

Thanks!

blair.groves@canrem.com
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