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INFO-CPM Digest             Wed,  2 Dec 92       Volume 92 : Issue  139

Today's Topics:
                              Altos 5-5
                 Micro Solutions, UniForm and UniDOS
                Need system disks for TRS-80 Model 4P
                       televideo 806/20 with ts
                         TURBO DOS *********
                Turbo Pascal FOR SALE (KAYPRO-II also)

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Date: 18 Nov 92 23:09:30 GMT
From: bobsbox.rent.com!spatula!azog@rutgers.edu  (Billy D'Augustine)
Subject: Altos 5-5
Message-ID: <1992Nov18.230930.7437@spatula.rent.com>

Ive got an old 5-5 that seems to have a bad power supply. When I power
it on, the floppy drive does this real nifty clicking noise, and the
hard drive doesnt seem to spin up. I get nothing on the console. Does
anyone happen to have prints of this power supply?

Thanx

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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 10:38 CST
From: Dave Ulrick                                      <A01DGU1%NIU.bitnet@UICVM.UIC.EDU>
Subject: Micro Solutions, UniForm and UniDOS

Having been inspired by a recent posting, and additionally being a
resident of DeKalb, I visited Micro Solutions yesterday with my
old UniForm and UniDOS disks in hand.  I had purchased a Kaypro II
from them back in '83 or '84, and later, when I bought a DOS machine,
purchased UniForm and UniDOS.  He had a bit of a problem upgrading
my copy of UniForm, though--he said my original master disk was so
old they weren't able to write to it!  He also said that the Z80
interpreter mode of UniDOS is no longer supported, and mentioned
something about a Z80 coprocessor board being their current
supported method of CP/M emulation on DOS machines.

To make a short story long, my new(er) versions of UniForm and
UniDOS seem to work fine on DOS 5.0.  I ran some programs directly
from a Kaypro floppy with no problems (MBASIC, NSWEEP, and VDO).
Turbo Pascal v2.0 "sort of" worked; the editor worked fine, and
the compiler compiled MicroCalc, but the latter bombed with a
run-time error when I tried to run it.  Best of all, a couple of
the compiled games included on the Kaypro II BASIC disk, LADDER
and CATCHUM, worked quite nicely.  My old BASIC programs worked
fine, too.  The speed (on a 386SX 25) was comparable to my old
Kaypro II.  Note that Turbo Pascal is the closest to a "heavy-duty"
program that I've tried.  I still have my Perfect Writer disks,
but I haven't tried it yet.

I've only run into one minor glitch with UniForm:  it isn't aware
that you might be using a LOADHI(GH) program to load it in
CONFIG.SYS.  If you do, and you try to run UINSTALL, it will claim
that UniForm is not installed on your system, and proceed to add
a (redundant) DEVICE= command to CONFIG.SYS.  It's easy to trick
it, though--keep a standard DEVICE=\path\UNIFORM.SYS in your
CONFIG.SYS, but make it a REMark.  When you want to run UINSTALL
to change your configuration, or run UNIFORM.EXE to change
disk formats, remember to uncomment this line beforehand.
UNIFORM.SYS itself runs fine loaded high.  Happily, both programs
run fine under DESQview v2.40.  This means that I can have a
DESQview window with UniDOS loaded for running my CP/M programs.
In fact, I should be able to run multiple UniDOS windows
simultaneously.

In conclusion, let me say that Micro Solutions *does* seem to
have a sense of history.  Right on the showroom floor it is easy
to see a machine that looks almost exactly like my Kaypro II
except that it is painted "KAYCOMP II".  If I remember correctly
this was the originalname of the Kaypro II (right?).  One of the
salesmen said they still use it from time to time.

Dave    (A01DGU1@NIU.BITNET; A01DGU1@MVS.NIU.EDU)

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Date: 9 Nov 92 20:11:55 GMT
From: korpela@rocket.ssl.berkeley.edu (Eric J. Korpela)
Subject: Need system disks for TRS-80 Model 4P
Message-ID: <1dmgmbINN1mt@agate.berkeley.edu>

I've adopted another orphan.  This time it's a TRS-80 Model 4P.
Unfortunately, the system disks that I got with the machine are
trashed.  Therefore I'm looking for...

A TRSDOS 6 boot disk (with appropriate utilities) for running in
model 4 mode.

An earlier TRSDOS boot disk (for running in Model 3 mode).

and

A CP/M system disk (with the transient commands) for running CP/M.

I will, of course, pay media and shipping costs.

Now if I could just find someone willing to sell me a Model 16
for the same price, my "orphan museum" would be off to a good start.

Eric Korpela                                    |  The two most common things
korpela@cea.berkeley.edu              Internet  |  in the universe are
BKYAST::KORPELA    42215::KORPELA     DecNet    |  Hydrogen and stupidity.
korpela%bkyast@ucbjade                Bitnet    |       -Harlan Ellison

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Date: 20 Nov 92 03:01:09 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!canrem!dosgate!dosgate![mark.wheeler%canrem.com]@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (mark wheeler)
Subject: televideo 806/20 with ts
Message-ID: <1992Nov19.4443.3178@dosgate>

Willi, I have a TS806 with a TS800A.

I don't bother using Mmmost with it. Instead, I just run it as a
single-user system with CP/M-80. Actually, I run NZCOM, the automated
Z-system product.

Easiest way to attach the TSS800A to the TS806 and get it running
is to use the RS232 connections. Connect a standard RS232 cable from
the connection marked TERMINAL at the back of the TS806 to the
connection marked P1(RS232) on the back of the TS800A.

I won't talk about dipswitch settings on the TS800A, will assume
whoever sold it to you left them at the correct settings.

Once the connections are made, just power on both boxes. If the
TS806 doesn't autoboot, push the little red reset button near the
floppy drive.

There are several very experienced TS806 users on this net; I'm
sure you'll receive other replies!
--
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Date: 9 Nov 92 05:10:51 GMT
From: kerwin@acsu.buffalo.edu (John J. Kerwin)
Subject: TURBO DOS *********
Message-ID: <BxFnq3.Hpp@acsu.buffalo.edu>

Has anyone heard of turbo dos for the CPM if you have please e-mail me
i have a couple of question i would like to ask you 


                                                 jk

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Date: 23 Nov 92 14:49:02 GMT
From: voder!berlioz.nsc.com!rtodd@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Ron Todd)
Subject: Turbo Pascal FOR SALE (KAYPRO-II also)
Message-ID: <1992Nov23.144902.15780@berlioz.nsc.com>

FOR SALE!  TURBO Pascal v.3.2 for CP/M KAYPRO-II format.

Cleaning the attic:  I have rescued my copy of TURBO Pascal from 
being sent to never-never-land.  

Asking $50 (UPS ground included). 

  This is a a legal Alpha Systems edition.  Manual is in small 
format looseleaf binder with tabs.  

  My KAYPRO-II may still be available if anyone wants to offer 
me $150 else it is going to a good cause.  Shipping (UPS ground)
and "PERFECT" software included if you can get to me before the 
deed is done.  

  These are two seperate offers, the KAYPRO will not be available 
after today (11-23-92).  

Ron Todd,  K3FR
    work:  (207) 761-6262
    home:  (207) 892-7712
    snail:  7 Hillcrest Rd.
            Windham, ME  04062

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INFO-CPM Digest             Wed,  9 Dec 92       Volume 92 : Issue  140

Today's Topics:
                         AMSTRAD CP/M LAPTOP
                            apple lisa....
                         CPM system and more
              Re: Looking for Hard Drive for Epson QX-10
                           Re: Porting CP/M
                 Re: Public domain software for CP/M+
                                vixen
                WordStar to Macintosh converter needed

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Date: 21 Nov 92 00:12:49 GMT
From: hsdndev!news.cs.umb.edu!edwardp@handies.ucar.edu  (Edward P. Piecewicz)
Subject: AMSTRAD CP/M LAPTOP
Message-ID: <1992Nov21.001249.13696@cs.umb.edu>

There was a message in this newsgroup the other day regarding an Amstrad
CP/M laptop computer.

Does anyone have any information on this computer?  Or if it will be available
in the United States?

It doesn't look like CP/M is dead after all!!!

Thanks.

 - Ed



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Date: 14 Nov 92 01:11:46 GMT
From: channel1![richard.wyble%channel1.com]@uunet.uu.net  (richard wyble)
Subject: apple lisa....
Message-ID: <1992Nov13.1037.1218@channel1>

 >-    I'm looking for any information which may be available for the
 >-or rather about the Apple Lisa, not to mention what kind of machine
 >-it is.....

The Apple Lisa was, simplistically, a product ahead of its time. One might 
say that it was the first Macintosh. In fact, a number of them were sold in 
the late 1980's as a cheap machine which would run Mac software.

I suggest that you seek a Macintosh forum in which to ask further questions.

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                      Written Fri, 11-13-92, at 5:37pm
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Date: 4 Dec 92 17:55:22 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!mlb.semi.harris.com!ZOO!rspangle@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (RSpangler)
Subject: CPM system and more
Message-ID: <1992Dec4.175522.12346@mlb.semi.harris.com>

Hello,
I subscribed to this group because I use to be a moderate CPM user.  The communication
going on seemed quite interesting.  For an OS that came out in the 70's, it has 
survived quite well.  Now to the point, I have a DECMate 2 computer.  This is a PDP-8
computer (uses a single VLSI chip instead of several boards) with an APU (auxillary
processor unit) installed.  This APU is a Z80 micro based card with 64 Kbytes of memory
installed.  This allows me to run CPM 2.2.  My problem is that I cannot format disks.
I have to buy them and they don't exist any more.  DEC did funny things with this 
computer and did not provide all the utilities needed.  I have tried to write a format
routine but to no avail.  The Z80 code offloads the disk functions to the PDP-8 which
in turn controls the 8272 disk controller chip.  If you have any help or maybe would
like to buy/swap this computer let me know via email.

______________________________________________________________________________
 
Ralph L. Spangler                      INTERNET: rspangle@su19bb.ess.harris.com
Harris Corporation                     
Government Aerospace Systems Division 
Mail Stop: 19-4827                     FAX:      407-727-4016
P.O. Box 94000                         Pager:    407-690-9712 (Digital)
Melbourne, Florida 32902               Voice:    407-727-5361
______________________________________________________________________________

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Date: 14 Nov 92 08:07:00 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!menudo.uh.edu!uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu!9999sc01@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Alexandre Khalil)
Subject: Re: Looking for Hard Drive for Epson QX-10
Message-ID: <14NOV199203070498@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu>

In article <1992Nov13.193138.10565@nntpserver.chevron.com>, jsco@usmi02.midland.chevron.com (J. S. Comeaux) writes...
>I hope someone can help Chris find a Hard drive.  They do exist, but
>I don't know where.  2 MB RAM disks also exist with Batter backup,
>which is a good way to go.  I still use the two-disk drive system.
>Tomorrow I'll bring the address of the EPSON usre's group in 
>Pennsylvania.

  Hello Guys

  I have worked for a year and a half on QX-10 and 16 before leaving the 
school where I was teaching.  At that time, I gave away 3 QX-10, 2 QX-16
2 20 Mb hard disks and all the original technical documentation.  Had to do
that as I was leaving the country and could not afford to take them along.
  In the US, I enquired about QXs for the good times sakes, and came up
with those two addresses:

   Star Technology Corporation
   900 Road 170
   Carbondale, CO 81623     (303)963-1969

     I found their prices much too high ( $679 for a 20 Mb, 65 ms 
   hard disk )

   SnyderScope International
   1594 Hilltop Drive
   El Cajon, CA 92020-8227  (619)442-2299

     SnyderScope was in the process of closing its QX interests in 1991, so
   I don't know if they might be of help.  They might be kind and give you
   a few tips on how to hack a QX to MFM or RLL interface so that you can 
   use a regular DOS drive.

  Happy hacking

>John (no signature yet)

alex khalil alex@dt.uh.edu
U. of Houston-Downtown

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Date: 4 Dec 92 05:35:00 GMT
From: ucla-mic!unixg.ubc.ca!erich.triumf.ca!bomr@cs.ucla.edu  (Rod Nussbaumer)
Subject: Re: Porting CP/M
Message-ID: <3DEC199221353076@erich.triumf.ca>

In article <1992Dec4.004641.27595@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, sam2y@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Steven A. Moyer) writes...
>I have a question for those of you who have put CP/M onto a homebrewed
>machine. Unfortunately, our university library has only 1 text on
>CP/M and it is pretty much fluff with only hints at the insides so I
>haven't been able to work this out for myself.
> 
	I would recommend "The Programmer's CP/M Handbook" by Thom Hogan,
	if you can scare up a copy somewhere.  I doubt seriously if it's
	been published recently, but it really deals with your exact
	problem.  As an aside, Thom Hogan was the guy who wrote the BIOS
	for the Osborne machines.  
	Have fun.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  Rod Nussbaumer, Programmer/Technologist       Bitnet: BOMR@TRIUMFER
  TRIUMF --- University of British Columbia,  Internet: bomr@erich.triumf.ca
  Vancouver, BC, Canada.                         Phone: (604)222-1047 ext 510
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Date: 20 Nov 92 20:45:00 GMT
From: uchinews!lucpum.it.luc.edu!rdth2!pbricker@handies.ucar.edu  (Preston Bricker)
Subject: Re: Public domain software for CP/M+
Message-ID: <20NOV199214451383@rdth2>

In article <1992Nov20.103005.7536@bradford.ac.uk>, M.E.Bullivant@bradford.ac.uk (Martin Bullivant) writes...
>Is anyone could tell me of, or send me, any public domain software for CP/M+ or
>CP/M 2.2 I would be very grateful.
> 
>Cheers,
> 
>Martin Bullivant.  (M.E.Bullivant@uk.ac.bradford)
> 
>-- 
>I'm a doctor, not a magician.
>    -- Dr. Pulaski, "The Royale", stardate 42625.4

Try SIMTEL or warchive

pbricker@rdth2.rdth.luc.edu

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Date: 7 Nov 92 17:44:23 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!yale.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!unixbox!dosgate!dosgate![barry.ross%canrem.com]@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (barry ross)
Subject: vixen
Message-ID: <1992Nov7.4443.3112@dosgate>

Have  you  got  one for sale? If it is just sitting  on  a  shelf 
collecting  dust  you may wish to sell it,  before  it  de-values 
anymore.
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Date: 02 Dec 1992 10:04:05 -0600 (CST)
From: Arun Baheti <ABAHETI@macalstr.edu>
Subject: WordStar to Macintosh converter needed

I'm looking for a utility that can convert CP/M WordStar documents into
some acceptable format for Microsoft Word on the Macintosh.  Or is my
best bet to convert from WS to WordPerfect for MS-DOS and then to
Word?  Suggestions welcomed.

-ab
 abaheti@mac.cc.macalstr.edu

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INFO-CPM Digest             Thu, 10 Dec 92       Volume 92 : Issue  141

Today's Topics:
                         Amstrad Z-80 laptop.
                         CP/M system and more
                          Re: AMSTRAD Laptop
                         Re: I got a new one!
                           Re: Porting CP/M
         Re: WordStar to Macintosh converter needed (2 msgs)
                      Z80 Calendar/Clock Boards

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Date: 6 Dec 92 00:07:35 GMT
From: hsdndev!news.cs.umb.edu!edwardp@g.ms.uky.edu  (Edward P. Piecewicz)
Subject: Amstrad Z-80 laptop.
Message-ID: <1992Dec6.000735.15374@cs.umb.edu>

A couple of weeks ago, someone posted an article to this newsgroup regarding
an Amstrad laptop computer with a Z-80 chip in it.

Does anyone know if Amstrad is really coming out with such a model?  I tried
to locate Amstrad on Internet, and they are not.

Thanks.

 - Ed



-- 
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Date: 5 Dec 92 21:29:05 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!sdd.hp.com!ncr-sd!crash!donm@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Don Maslin)
Subject: CP/M system and more
Message-ID: <1992Dec05.132905.7862@crash>

f you have access to a PC with an appropriate floppy drive, you might get
a copy of Sydex AnaDisk program and use its Copy function to duplicate an
already formatted - but blank - disk.  The registration fee is quite 
reasonable, and will be soon paid by using generic floppies.

						 - don

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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 10:33:25 IST
From: "Jacques J. Goldberg" <PHR00JG%TECHNION.bitnet@VM.TAU.AC.IL>
Subject: Re: AMSTRAD Laptop

There must be a misunderstanding.
You probably refer to the AMSTRAD PPC-640 or PPC-512, a MessDoss PORTABLE,
not Laptop, not CP/M.
It's essentially an XT clone, with 512 or 640 K RAM, one or two 3in1/2
diskettes (720k capacity each), a 2400 bauds modem with the PPC 640, a hardly
tolerable display which needs light in your back, and a 10 (is it 8 ?) MHz
8086 processor. There is a 8087 socket, and connectors for an external
printer, display (CGA or mono), a serial port and a complete XT-bus extension.
Some outlets used to offer an external hard disk.
It runs from an external power supply or 10 1.5 volt alkaline batteries.
Its volume/weight is 2-3 times a laptop, the only advantage is that you have
a full size 101 keys keyboard with desktop layout. I used it in trains (fresh
batteries held 2/3 of the 3h30 trips Paris<-->Geneva only), but too large in
a  plane. Bottom line, if somebody wants to purchase mine...(640k, 2 drives).

Jacques Goldberg - phr00jg@technion.technion.ac.il

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Date: 2 Dec 92 07:09:23 GMT
From: agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!torn!nott!cunews!revcan!cerianthus!pinetree!garth@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (garth jones)
Subject: Re: I got a new one!
Message-ID: <ce95uB1w165w@pinetree.org>

davem@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave McCrady) writes:
> Ian Cottrell in Ottawa (Canada) used to produce a periodic listing of CP/M
> board (or boards that offer CP/M files).  I haven't seen one of those
> for a while ... perhaps if he's still at it and he sees this he might be
> persuaded to post the most recent one.
> 

Ian still produces RCPM lists. If Ian's doesn't post a list soon I will 
post it for you. 
        --G
P.S. I don't think that Ian has InterNet access any more.
P.S.S. Remind me if you don't see the list in the next day or so.

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Date: 5 Dec 92 04:15:14 GMT
From: crash!cwr@nosc.mil  (Will Rose)
Subject: Re: Porting CP/M
Message-ID: <1992Dec04.201514.7782@crash>

Rod Nussbaumer (bomr@erich.triumf.ca) wrote:
: In article <1992Dec4.004641.27595@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, sam2y@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Steven A. Moyer) writes...
: >I have a question for those of you who have put CP/M onto a homebrewed
: >machine. Unfortunately, our university library has only 1 text on
: >CP/M and it is pretty much fluff with only hints at the insides so I
: >haven't been able to work this out for myself.
: > 
: 	I would recommend "The Programmer's CP/M Handbook" by Thom Hogan,
: 	if you can scare up a copy somewhere.  I doubt seriously if it's
: 	been published recently, but it really deals with your exact
: 	problem.  As an aside, Thom Hogan was the guy who wrote the BIOS
: 	for the Osborne machines.  
: 	Have fun.

That's the book I would chose, but my copy is by Andy Johnson Laird.
Thom Hogan wrote the other essential CP/M book, the Osborne CP/M User
Guide.  Both were published by Osborne/McGraw-Hill.

Will
cwr@crash.cts.com

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Date: 4 Dec 92 21:53:58 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.unomaha.edu!cwis.unomaha.edu!haworth@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Dwight A. Haworth)
Subject: Re: WordStar to Macintosh converter needed
Message-ID: <1992Dec4.215358.28607@news.unomaha.edu>

The Software Bridge product allows conversion from Wordstar 3.3 to Microsoft
Word.  The storage format is of course another issue.  Wordstar 6.0 also
supports Wordstar to MS Word conversion in the Convert program that is
supplied.

I don't have any information on a product that would convert CP/M disks to
a Mac format disk.

Not much help, I'm afraid; but maybe it will give you a starting point.

Dwight Haworth
haworth@cwis.unomaha.edu

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Date: 6 Dec 92 15:59:23 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!nigel.msen.com!math.fu-berlin.de!mailgzrz.TU-Berlin.DE!marie!georg@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Georg Schwarz)
Subject: Re: WordStar to Macintosh converter needed
Message-ID: <1ft80rINNcte@mailgzrz.TU-Berlin.DE>

In <1992Dec4.215358.28607@news.unomaha.edu> haworth@cwis.unomaha.edu (Dwight A. Haworth) writes:

>I don't have any information on a product that would convert CP/M disks to
>a Mac format disk.

Try using an MSDOS PC and a Mac with a superdrive as a bridge.

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Date: 10 Dec 92 04:14:03 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!csn!ub!nemesis.orchard-park.ny.us!adp@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Alan Percy)
Subject: Z80 Calendar/Clock Boards
Message-ID: <1992Dec10.041403.21254@nemesis.orchard-park.ny.us>

I realize this is a fairly quiet place lately, but I thought
what I found in my basement the other day would be interesting to
some of you.

I used to make and sell the Ztime-I calendar/clock board for
Z80 based computers.  The board adds a battery backed clock chip
to almost any Z80 computer.  The board is a daughter card that
goes under the CPU.

Anyway, I found a few spare circuit boards in a box the other day.
Needless to say they haven't been selling like hot-cake for the last
five years.  If anyone is interested in these things, drop me
a note or give me a call.  They are just taking up space that newer
junk sorely needs.

716-662-8583

 


-- 
A nanosecond here, a nanosecond there, next think you know...
	 you have Real-Time!!!
Alan Percy.................adp@nemesis.orchard-park.ny.us		
                rutgers!ub!nemesis.orchard-park.ny.us!adp

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INFO-CPM Digest             Fri, 11 Dec 92       Volume 92 : Issue  142

Today's Topics:
                      HD controller for Z80 ???
                             Here Yet ??
                      IMPORTANT for sale posting
                             Lisp, Scheme
                   Looking for "Z80" for DECMate II
                    Re: HD controller for Z80 ???
              ZSIM 2.0 Z80 Simulator uploaded to SIMTEL

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Date: 10 Dec 92 11:50:13 GMT
From: mcsun!news.funet.fi!news.cc.tut.fi!kent@uunet.uu.net  (Kentt{l{ Marko)
Subject: HD controller for Z80 ???
Message-ID: <1992Dec10.115013.18326@cc.tut.fi>

I could really use hard disk controller for my trusty old Z80 machine. Are
any of these beasts that connect directly to Z80 or its bus still available ?
Used is fine too ...


-- 
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Date: 6 Dec 92 13:52:32 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!menudo.uh.edu!sugar!tghost!f-454!Usenet@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Blake Scruggs)
Subject: Here Yet ??
Message-ID: <723671459.AA00245@f-454.fidonet.org>

Hi Ismael, (Hoping you're here) If so please respond,
\\\ Space City Houston and Stafford: blake!blkbox.com:PMTown

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Date: 6 Dec 92 22:17:49 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!ephillip%magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Earl W Phillips)
Subject: IMPORTANT for sale posting
Message-ID: <CMM.0.90.4.723680269.ephillip@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>

Well, to me anyway!

*** FOR SALE ***
Complete Xerox 820-II CP?M system

system includes:

Xerox 820-II CP/M system, running a flavor of ZCP/M.
ZCP/M makes it easy to run CP/M-OS. Includes 10 meg
harddrive; single floppy drive. 8" floppy disks are
DSDD 980k.

You also get every manual written for the 820-II,
including tech manuals.

Also, every imaginable piece of CP/M software that'll
run on this system (I spent more than 2 years amassing
CP/M software, including d/l'ing everything then on Simtel!)
as well as doc's for most all the software.

Also includes a Decwriter IV serial printer/typewriter;
plus a specially-built cable & doc's to allow you to hook
up the faster parallel printers.

Also includes a Practical Peripherals 1200 baud external
modem w/manual.

All necessary cables.

Everything in very good working order (I'm on it right
now, in fact) * WHEN SHIPPED *. I make that disclaimer
cause I refuse to guarantee UPS' ability to do anything
right.

Best offer gets it, including shipping, which w/be a lot
of boxes. Figure 1 each for CPU, disk drive, printer; plus
3 or 4 boxes (at least) for all the software anf manuals
& doc's.

Please reply soon, I need the room. My apartment no longer
has enough room for all my equipment (I'm also running 4
dos systems). Reply email to:ephillip@magnus.ircc.ohio-state.edu
or voice 614-764-0476, or snail E. Phillips, 7893 Thornfield
Lane, Cols, Oh 43235.

*Sniff* :(

*****************************************************************
*                                    | ====@====      ///////// *
* ephillip@magnus.ircc.ohio-state.edu|     ``________//         *
*                                    |       `------'           *
*                 -JR-               | Space;........the final  *
*                                    | frontier...............  *
*****************************************************************

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Date: 10 Dec 92 17:15:23 GMT
From: agate!biosci!uwm.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!Sirius.dfn.de!mailgzrz.TU-Berlin.DE!math.fu-berlin.de!fauern!uni-erlangen.de!cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de!ksweber@ucbvax.Berkeley  (Klaus Weber)
Subject: Lisp, Scheme
Message-ID: <1g7tvbEINNt6n@uni-erlangen.de>

Hi to all of you out of Erlangen!

I am the owner of a Amstrad CPC 6128 with 1Mb Ramdisk.
On this system I am running CP/M 3.0 and CP/M 2.2 since
several years. But now i'm going to study some computer
science at the university of Erlangen-Nuerenberg/Germany.

Therefor I need the programming language scheme, for doing 
the exercises at home. 

Is there any scheme-interpreter for my two CP/M systems?

Please write your hopefully lots of answers to the following
EMail adress: ksweber@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de

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Date: 4 Dec 92 22:25:08 GMT
From: psinntp!pbs.org!djohnston@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Looking for "Z80" for DECMate II
Message-ID: <1992Dec4.172508.19295@pbs.org>

Would anyone know where I might be able to pick up a Z80 Card 
for a Digital Equipment Corp DECMate II?  I have access to 
a DECMate II and CPM software but the software all requires
the Z80.  I'd love to see this machine do more than run
WPS Word Processing software.  Any pointers would be appreciated!

-- 
 * Dave Johnston, PBS  "Cheers!" *   *   *   *   *   *   djohnston@pbs.org   *
 | Disclaimer: "The right to be heard does not automatically include the     |  
 |              right to be taken seriously..." - Hubert H. Humphrey, 1965   |
 *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *

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Date: 10 Dec 92 13:56:22 GMT
From: prism!jm59@gatech.edu  (MILLS,JOHN M.)
Subject: Re: HD controller for Z80 ???
Message-ID: <77963@hydra.gatech.EDU>

In article <1992Dec10.115013.18326@cc.tut.fi> kent@cc.tut.fi (Kentt{l{ Marko) writes:
 >
 >I could really use hard disk controller for my trusty old Z80 machine. Are
 >any of these beasts that connect directly to Z80 or its bus still available ?
 >Used is fine too ...

Many years ago, BYTE published a two-article series showing how to build a
simple SCSI host adapter for S-100.  The second article gave an outline of
driver software.  The host adapter was little more than a parallel port and
addressing logic, since the disk drive's control was quite autonomous.

Did anyone out there follow this up, and would it be worth re-doing? (I could
dig out the article, but my BYTEs are at home, and this was probably c.1981.)

How about a modern redux with IDE? Those drives are pretty good value now,
and the interface is probably dirt-simple.  (I'm just a simple M.E., so I
may be deluding myself here.)

BTW, anyone want to dicker for 180+ old issues of BYTE?  Includes No.1 and
most of the first 10 years, but sadly I've lost No.2 and a few others.
(List on request)  This is a genuine offer, but we're talking serious
kilograms here!  I haven't figured the best way to offer them, and I'm
afraid my attic will cave in! [;->)

Regards --jmm--

-- 
John M. Mills, SRE; Georgia Tech/GTRI/TSDL, Atlanta, GA 30332
uucp: ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!jm59
Internet: jm59@prism.gatech.edu
 ... Not so fast -- I'm still thinking.

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Date: 10 Dec 92 13:12:49 GMT
From: mcsun!Germany.EU.net!ira.uka.de!news.belwue.de!ifi!news@uunet.uu.net  (Weber)
Subject: ZSIM 2.0 Z80 Simulator uploaded to SIMTEL
Message-ID: <1992Dec10.131249.18269@ifi.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de>

I have uploaded to SIMTEL20:

pd1:<msdos.emulators>
ZSIM20.ZIP      Z80 emulator + CP/M 80 bios to RUN CP/M
                            
ZSIM is an (extremely accurate) Z80 emulator (80386/40 -> 8 MHz Z80)
in conjunction with a CP/M 80 bios, i.e. it simulates a Z80 machine, 
that can run CP/M. Together with the original CP/M operating system 
you have a full Z80-CP/M machine.
If you don't have a CP/M system disc at hand, you can use the included 
public domain CP/M compatible operating system SUPERDOS.
ZSIM uses CP/M format discs and a ramdisc.  Supported disc formats 
are CP/M 86 single sided and double sided, but you can install any CP/M 
format PC drives can physically read. So you can use ZSIM to transfer 
data to MS-Dos.  The ramdisc can be saved to the PC harddisc.  
A sample ramdisc containing the SMALL-C compiler is included.
As ZSIM uses an original operating system and CP/M discs it should run 
every CP/M program that does not use special hardware.  All software I 
could test ran.
ZSIM is free for personal use.  Sources of the CP/M bios are included.
NEW IN VERSION 2.0:
* emulation is 20 % faster
* Z80 interrupt handling fully emulated
* a powerful utility to transfer data from CP/M to MS-Dos included
* IOByte support, so you can access your serial port
* the z80 emulation can be linked to your own programs with C interface 


-- 

Juergen G. Weber
Student am Institut fuer Informatik
Universitaet Stuttgart - Germany

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INFO-CPM Digest             Sat, 12 Dec 92       Volume 92 : Issue  143

Today's Topics:
                          Kaypro II (2 msgs)
                     Osborne Exec. System needed!
                             Porting CP/M
                    Re: HD controller for Z80 ???
                      VT100 comm package wanted

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Date: 7 Dec 92 21:28:20 GMT
From: reynaert@arizona.edu  (Jim B. Reynaert)
Subject: Kaypro II
Message-ID: <27707@optima.cs.arizona.edu>

Hello there!
	I am currently looking for a powerful C Compiler, any suggestions?
I would like to be able to compile simple files that I have originally written
for unix's GCC compiler and run them on my Kaypro II. Perhaps CODE WORKS C 
compiler would help but I don't know where to get it... I appreciate your
help in advance. If you have any solutions to my problem please send me e-mail.
Thank you,
		Jim.

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Date: 7 Dec 92 21:37:07 GMT
From: reynaert@arizona.edu  (Jim B. Reynaert)
Subject: Kaypro II
Message-ID: <27709@optima.cs.arizona.edu>

	I have benn having problems with my communications when I use an
external modem at 2400 BPS, Some characters are lost while the comunication
is going on. This only happens when there is output to my adm3a screen.
	Curiously, this doesn't happen at 1200 BPS or less. Also I have down
loaded files at 2400 BPS and no data has been lost... It would be nice for me
to be able to communicate at 2400 BPS without having to guess what the output 
to the screen was ex...    instead of more it writes "me" or instead of 
password it types "psswd", I would like to know if somebody out there has or 
had the same problem and if so how did you fix it. Is it probably a
bad Microchi? And if so which one? 
	I appreciate any help that I can get, thank you in advance
					Jim.

P.D. please send e-mail...

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Date: 7 Dec 92 20:39:45 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!west.West.Sun.COM!news2me.EBay.Sun.COM!seven-up.East.Sun.COM!castlerock!hans@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Hans Hrasna)
Subject: Osborne Exec. System needed!
Message-ID: <1g0cqjINN7rv@seven-up.East.Sun.COM>

	Greets CP/M folks... I bought a broken Osborne Exec and finally
fixed it last weekend... problem is I don't have the software for it...
I have one disk that boots CP/M 3.0 so I know the thing works well, but
the rest of that disk is supercalc files... I can't even make another
system disk!! Can anyone out there help me out?

	-Hans

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Date: 4 Dec 92 00:46:41 GMT
From: concert!uvaarpa!murdoch!uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU!sam2y@gatech.edu  (Steven A. Moyer)
Subject: Porting CP/M
Message-ID: <1992Dec4.004641.27595@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>

I have a question for those of you who have put CP/M onto a homebrewed
machine. Unfortunately, our university library has only 1 text on
CP/M and it is pretty much fluff with only hints at the insides so I
haven't been able to work this out for myself.

Apparently older peripherals, circa mid to late '70s, had less of a standard
logical interface than those currently in use.  Thus, BIOS was generally
not found in ROM (since this would only fit a given manufactures combination
of peripherals) and most folks rolled their own.  This, anyways, is the
claim of the text that I have.

While writing a device driver is no big deal, just tedious, it seems that
most people back then putting together a motherboard from here and a
disk driver from there, etc., were faced with a real 'chicken and egg'
problem.  Developing device drivers is all well and good when you
have a system to do it on, but you didn't have a system until you had a
bootable disk with the correct drivers.

So, what piece of the puzzle has my lack of adequate information left
me without?  How did those of you who put together your own system back
then handle this problem?

I'm curious because I'm putting together an old IMSAI as a 'just for fun'
project and I would like to get CP/M running on it.  I suppose I could
whip up an emulator for the IMSAI and my particular combination of peripherals
and get a floppy for the IMSAI compatible with my usual machine so that
I could get CP/M running and build a bootable diskette, but this seems
somewhat round about.

I'd like suggestions from others who have put one of these systems together
before. (other than to get a decent manual, I'm working on that ;-)

Thanks,

Steve


PS To those who replied with s-100 stuff for sale (from postings in other
groups): thanks! I'm getting around to answering everyone, but it was
quite a flood of mail.
-- 
+--------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Steve Moyer                    |       THIS SPACE FOR RENT         |
| Computer Science Department    |                                   |
| University of Virginia         |                                   |

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Date: 11 Dec 92 23:49:50 GMT
From: europa.asd.contel.com!howland.reston.ans.net!wupost!waikato.ac.nz!comp.vuw.ac.nz!actrix!naos!ewen@gatech.edu  (Ewen McNeill)
Subject: Re: HD controller for Z80 ???
Message-ID: <RD2oVB1w164w@naos.actrix.gen.nz>

jm59@prism.gatech.EDU (MILLS,JOHN M.) writes:

> In article <1992Dec10.115013.18326@cc.tut.fi> kent@cc.tut.fi (Kentt{l{ Marko)
>  >I could really use hard disk controller for my trusty old Z80 machine. Are
>  >any of these beasts that connect directly to Z80 or its bus still available
>  >Used is fine too ...
> Many years ago, BYTE published a two-article series showing how to build a
> simple SCSI host adapter for S-100.  The second article gave an outline of
> driver software.  The host adapter was little more than a parallel port and
> addressing logic, since the disk drive's control was quite autonomous.

Much more recently (Jan/Feb 1991) TCJ (The Computer Journal) published 
an article on how to build a very simple SCSI port.  It was just a 8255, 
and some decoding logic.  The handshaking was mostly done in software, 
except for the ACK signal which was generated by a flip-flop.  I've had 
a quick hack board made from this circuit running on my Z80 machine for 
the past 15 months without any problems.  Transfer speed is limited to 
whatever you can persuade your machine to do in software - about 45K/s 
for my 4 Mhz 1WS Amstrad.  I've been talking about adding DMA support to 
it for a while.  I might have a go at it over the Christmas break.

> How about a modern redux with IDE? Those drives are pretty good value now,
> and the interface is probably dirt-simple.  (I'm just a simple M.E., so I

This was done even more recently in TCJ (Jun/Jul 1992 I think).  It 
mostly just turned a single 8 bit port into a 16 bit port by 
multiplexing.  It apparently works quite well.  It was connected to a 
board based on a 16Mhz Z280, and I think it used the built in DMA, so 
transfer speed would have been good.  There was some software (basic) 
with it too.

> John M. Mills, SRE; Georgia Tech/GTRI/TSDL, Atlanta, GA 30332

--
Ewen McNeill, ewen@naos.actrix.gen.nz (or ewen@actrix.gen.nz)

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Date: 12 Dec 92 01:47:46 GMT
From: agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!cleveland.Freenet.Edu!bv548@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (David S Weitermann)
Subject: VT100 comm package wanted
Message-ID: <1gbgc2INN8ai@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>

Does anyone out there know of a communications package that can
perform minimally VT100 emulation?  I'm in need of one to connect
to our schools mainframe.  Thanks.


dave weitermann
bv548@freenet.cwru.edu
weitermann@admin.ripon.edu
weitermannd@acad.ripon.edu
-- 

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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 12:26:32 EST
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INFO-CPM Digest             Mon, 14 Dec 92       Volume 92 : Issue  144

Today's Topics:
               For Sale: Running CP/M 2.2 S-100 System
                  More on the Ztime-I Calendar/Clock
                           Re: Porting CP/M
                    Re: VT100 comm package wanted
                        vt100 comm package wa
                      vt100 comm package wanted

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Date: 11 Dec 92 21:16:42 GMT
From: cs.utexas.edu!natinst.com!news.dell.com!fisher.com!turtle.fisher.com!mwebb@uunet.uu.net
Subject: For Sale: Running CP/M 2.2 S-100 System
Message-ID: <1992Dec11.161642.147@turtle.fisher.com>

It's time for me to make space for a new generation of computers, 
so I have to part with my old reliable, easy to understand, 8-bit computer.
I'm asking $300 for all of it, including the CP/M texts and the BYTE,
MicroSystems Journal, and S-100 magazines.
I'd like to sell it all as a unit, but will consider parting it out after a few
weeks if no reasonable offers are received.
It is currently plugged in and running with no known problems.

HARDWARE
California Computer Systems 2810 Z-80 CPU - 4/8 Mhz
California Computer Systems 2422 Floppy Disk Controller
     IBM 3740 & system 34 standard compatible
     Shugart or PerSci drive bus     
     CP/M 128, 256, 512, or 1024 bytes/sector
     4 drives, any combination, single/double sided/density 8" / 5 1/4"
     2k bootstrap
California Computer Systems 2719 2-parallel, 2-serial I/O
     serial - Z-80 DART, RS-232c to 115.2k baud
     parallel - 6821 PIA, Centronics, 3 interrupt modes
          unidirectional 8-bit with handshake or 16 bit w/o handshake
California Computer Systems 2066 64k dynamic memory
     bankable, 4 - 16k blocks, 4116 200ns memory
2 - Qume DataTrak 8 - 8" disk drive, DS/DD (1 meg)
1 - Tandon 100-2 - 5 1/4 " disk drive, DS/DD
Integrand 1100 S-100 cabinet, 10 slot card cage & power supply
Freedom 100 terminal - 110 - 19.2k baud
     emulation - Hazeltine 1420, Televideo 910, Adds Regent 25, 
          ADM 3A/5, Freedom 100
All hardware manuals

SOFTWARE
Operating System - CP/M 2.2, with extensions from CCS for disk formats
Word Processing, Database, Spreadsheet
     Wordstar 3.3 / Mailmerge / Spellstar / Reportstar / Indexstar
     Calcstar, SuperCalc, DBASE II
Data Translation / Transfer
     Compat Multimedia Disk Transfer, MEX modem softare, Crosstalk
Software Development
     BD "C", Turbo Pascal, Digital Research Pascal MT+, 
     Microsoft Macro-80, Link-80, Lib-80, MAC, ASMB
     SYSLIB M80, L80, Debug, MBASIC, CBASIC II, Forth-83
miscellaneous games, utilities, and etc. on approx. total 75 8"
floppies, Several boxes of software manuals, books, and magazines

---------------------------------------------------------------------
Marc Webb   ---   Fisher*Rosemount Systems Div.   ---   Austin, TX
         mwebb@turtle.fisher.com   ---   (512) 834-7049
---------------------------------------------------------------------

------------------------------

Date: 14 Dec 92 03:32:17 GMT
From: cs.widener.edu!dsinc!ub!nemesis.orchard-park.ny.us!adp@g.ms.uky.edu  (Alan Percy)
Subject: More on the Ztime-I Calendar/Clock
Message-ID: <1992Dec14.033217.13185@nemesis.orchard-park.ny.us>

I guess I woke some of you old die-hard Z80 folk up with my posting
on my left-over Ztime-I calendar/clocks.  If I don't reply individually,
it's because I was swamped with requests on information.  (for you folks
that sounded desparate, you should have gotten a call or Email)

Anyway, here's the scoop:

I have 15 bare circuit boards left for the Ztime-I.  The features
of the Ztime-I are:

- Under Z80 CPU installation
- Adds 32 I/O ports that provide the date/time in BCD
- Maintains time from "coin" battery.
- Simple to build from good/detailed instructions.
- Complete driver software to set/get time from chip in C, Pascal, and Basic.
- All parts can be ordered from DigiKey.

If you send me a check for $15 a board, I'll send you a bare circuit card,
a copy of the manual, and a 5 1/4" disk with the driver software.  If all
you need is a bare board, then the price is $10/board.  This includes shipping
to North America.

I hope this answers all your questions.  I also beg for forgiveness from
any of you that hate commercial "Exploitation" of Usenet.

Alan Percy
61 Hawthore Dr.
Orchard Park, NY 14127


-- 
A nanosecond here, a nanosecond there, next think you know...
	 you have Real-Time!!!
Alan Percy.................adp@nemesis.orchard-park.ny.us		
                rutgers!ub!nemesis.orchard-park.ny.us!adp

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Date: 8 Dec 92 13:39:20 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ira.uka.de!news.belwue.de!ifi!news@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Weber)
Subject: Re: Porting CP/M
Message-ID: <1992Dec8.133920.23957@ifi.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de>

In article <1992Dec4.004641.27595@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> sam2y@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Steven A. Moyer) writes:
...
>
>I'm curious because I'm putting together an old IMSAI as a 'just for fun'
>project and I would like to get CP/M running on it.  I suppose I could
>whip up an emulator for the IMSAI and my particular combination of peripherals
>and get a floppy for the IMSAI compatible with my usual machine so that
>I could get CP/M running and build a bootable diskette, but this seems
>somewhat round about.

If you've got an IBM clone and if the IMSAI uses double densitiy 5,25"
discs you can use the ZSIM Z80 Emulator from SIMTEL.
It can boot and run the original CP/M from a CP/M disc.
-- 

Juergen G. Weber
Student am Institut fuer Informatik
Universitaet Stuttgart - Germany

------------------------------

Date: 13 Dec 92 17:31:51 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!wupost!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!asuacad!cxkpv@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: Re: VT100 comm package wanted
Message-ID: <92348.103151CXKPV@ASUACAD.BITNET>

While were in the subject, does anyone know of a vt100 communications program t
hat supports keyboard mapping?

------------------------------

Date: 12 Dec 92 23:01:08 GMT
From: saimiri.primate.wisc.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!canrem!dosgate!dosgate![larry.moore%canrem.com]@ames.arc.nasa.gov  (larry moore)
Subject: vt100 comm package wa
Message-ID: <199212.4443.3253@dosgate>

Dave Weitermann, in message <1gbgc2INN8ai@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>,
asks: 
DW> Does anyone out there know of a communications package that can
  > perform minimally VT100 emulation?  I'm in need of one to connect
  > to our schools mainframe.  Thanks.


  >dave weitermann
  >bv548@freenet.cwru.edu
  >weitermann@admin.ripon.edu
  >weitermannd@acad.ripon.edu

(wet!pallio!dg) David Goodenough's qterm.com does a quite 
creditable VT100 emulation.


| {canrem, dciem}!lfergus!larry | Nanet CP/M conference chair person.  |
| CP/M UUCP/mail(using David Goodenough's uucp21b on a TeleVideo 803H) |
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044

------------------------------

Date: 13 Dec 92 00:27:53 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!wupost!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!canrem!dosgate!dosgate![blair.groves%canrem.com]@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (blair groves)
Subject: vt100 comm package wanted
Message-ID: <199212.4443.3255@dosgate>

-> Does anyone out there know of a communications package that can
-> perform minimally VT100 emulation?  I'm in need of one to connect to
-> our schools mainframe.  Thanks.


Try David Goodenough's QTERM. It does VT-100, and supports transfer
protocols including Kermit and XModem.

blair.groves@canrem.com
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044

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INFO-CPM Digest             Sun, 20 Dec 92       Volume 92 : Issue  145

Today's Topics:
               Need info: TRS-80/II and S-100 Turbodos
                               PC/Blue
                         Printers; and PCBLUE
          qt-term disk or uuencode for Morrow (MD-11) needed
                     Re: Kaypro II Video Problem
                      TCJ HD controller article
                             z-80 Fortran

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Date: 17 Dec 92 13:48:22 GMT
From: agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ira.uka.de!gmd.de!jvnc.net!erenj.com!bdboyle@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Bryan D. Boyle)
Subject: Need info: TRS-80/II and S-100 Turbodos
Message-ID: <1992Dec17.134822.988@erenj.com>

Being an old afficianado of TurboDOS, I would like to know if anyone
on the net has a legal copy that they would like to sell.  I know that
it was configged for a wide range of systems from California Computer to
IMS, as well as the TRS80/II.  Now, I realize that we are talking about
a system that is over 10 years old, but I do have a use for the mod
II, and do have both a ccs s-100 system (64K, 2 rs232 i/o, 1 centronics
parallel, DG D410 terminal and quantum 40mb fixed disk) and am in the
process of obtaining another s100 system for hacking around...any info
or direction would be greatly appreciated.



-- 
Bryan D. Boyle     |Exxon doesn't pay me to voice their opinions...
Senior Engineer    |Semper ubi sub ubi.
bdboyle@erenj.com  |On a clear day, you can see forever on the Net...

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992  20:50 MST
From: "Frank J. Wancho" <WANCHO@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: PC/Blue
Message-ID: <WANCHO.12838020014.BABYL@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL>

Mark,

The PC/Blue collection started out as a collection of CP/M programs
that were converted to run on the early IBM PCs.  This was at the time
the IBM PCs had just come out on the market and there was little to no
software, either public domain or commercial to run on them.  Because
most of the CP/M programs were written in an assembly language, such
as M80 or ASM, to fit within a max 56K address space, conversion
initially meant running the source code through an ASM-80 to ASM-86
translator.  The results were mostly usable, but far from efficient.

That inefficiency spawned a small market in Baby Blue cards, which, as
I recall, were single slot Z80 computers designed to run in an IBM PC
machine.  You could run your CP/M programs full tilt, usually much
faster than the translated version.  This resulted in the temporary
impression that the native IBM PC (at 4.77MHz) was much slower that
its Z80/Z80H counterparts, and, they were, until programs written in
native ASM-86 were developed, specially designed to take full
advantage of the 8088/8086 architecture.

The PC/Blue collection then became THE vehicle for the distribution of
public domain and the new category of shareware (also called begware
by dyed-in-the-wool CP/Mers who would never think of asking for money
for their masterpieces).  Nonetheless, the PC/Blue name stuck, in
spite of the fact that it went far beyond its original purpose.

For those of you who still remember, the PC/Blue collection was
originally available on the net from SIMTEL20, going back to 1983.  It
was removed at a time when we were severely short on disk space and
preferred to devote the space to the ever expanding MSDOS collection.
Besides, the PC/Blue collection had grown to over 600 volumes, with a
large percentage of newer and newer versions of previously released
packages (witness the modem programs "wars").  In other words, a lot
of self-duplication, and redundancy with the MSDOS collection, which
had the policy of keeping only the latest versions of much of the same
software packages.  (Also, the MSDOS collection was usually several
months ahead of the PC/Blue releases, which suffered severe latencies
due to daisy-chain surface mail and copying delays at each link.

By the time we got disk space elbow room, we had to remove the
"entertainment" (games) as a matter of policy and stick to carrying
only the justifiable packages.  Because the PC/Blue collection
contained "games" and because we would only carry canned packages
as-is, we did not restore the PC/Blue collection to online status,
deferring to the mirror sites.

--Frank

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 11:33 EDT
From: Mark Tarka <TARKA10%SNYBUFVA.BITNET@VM.ITS.RPI.EDU>
Subject: Printers; and PCBLUE
Message-ID: <921216113357.TARKA10@BUFVA.BITNET>

Two questions.

1.  I have two line-printers from an old Mohawk Data Sciences computing
system.  Both self-test OK, but I can't find the correct
communications protocol to make the connection between my Digital
Rainbow and the first, and can't even find where to attach the data
cable on the second.

                (i)     Mfgr:  QUANTEL (Hayward, CA)
                        Mod. No.:  5129

                (ii)    TERMINET
                        Mfgr.:  General Electric (Waynesboro, VA)
                        Mod. No.  383400YB0009A1

I need to know if these are serial or parallel, and how to set-up
communications.

2.  Just as a general question, what is PCBLUE?  I have a listing of
available software from Oakland.Edu.  I've sort of got the idea that the
programs were derived from software written for say an IBM, but will
work on any system with the appropriate CPU (something about hardware
addresses being different); there was a brief statement in conversation
or reading associated with the Rainbow, that it had the capability to
read IBM disks, but was otherwise incompatable with IBM and its clones.

Any information on either or both of these topics would be appreciated.

Mark Tarka
Chemistry Dept.;Buffalo State College; 1300 Elmwood Ave.;
Buffalo, NY, 14222-1095; USA.  (716)878-6686.  TARKA10@SNYBSCVA

------------------------------

Date: 15 Dec 92 04:11:30 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!yale.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!cs.utexas.edu!gateway@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: qt-term disk or uuencode for Morrow (MD-11) needed
Message-ID: <9212150413.AA08269@pepvax.pepperdine.edu>

Does anyone have qterm set up for a Morrow? Would you contact me, so I can
set it up for our Assoc. Dean? He'll send you a letter of thanks when he
gets it going, so that he can read his e-mail.

USnail:

Kim Cary
GSEP - Pepperdine
400 Corporate Pointe
Culver City, CA 90230

e-mail:
Kim Cary, GSEP Systems Support, Pepperdine University

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 12:34:09 -0500
From: Jay Sage <sage@ll.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: Kaypro II Video Problem
Message-ID: <9212151234.AA10247@LL.MIT.EDU>

Several attempts to reply directly to "reynaert@arizona.edu" have failed with
a "user unknown" message from the host, so I will post my response here.

>> I have benn having problems with my communications when I use an external
>> modem at 2400 BPS, Some characters are lost while the comunication is
>> going on. This only happens when there is output to my adm3a screen.
>> Curiously, this doesn't happen at 1200 BPS or less. Also I have down
>> loaded files at 2400 BPS and no data has been lost...

   This is a very well known problem with Kaypro computers.  It is the
result of a poor design of the video display.  When a new line must be
created at the bottom of the screen and the existing lines have to be
scrolled up, the system takes so long that incoming characters are lost.  I
don't use a Kaypro myself, but many friends do.  There is a file that
implements a correction to this (I can't remember exactly what it does or
how it does it).  A common work around is to clear the screen every time it
fills up and to start again from the top.  If you don't get more specific
advice from others who reply to you, get back to me and I will try to dig up
that file for you.  It is posted on my BBS system, which is sponsored by the
former Kaypro User Group of the Boston Computer Society (now broadened to
include all CP/M and MS-DOS computers).  In case you are a BBSer, its phone
number is 617-965-7046.  This reaches first a v.32bis modem and, if that one
is busy, a USR Courier HST on line 2 (alternatively reachable directly at
617-965-7785).

-- Jay Sage


------------------------------

Date: 16 Dec 92 11:35:57 GMT
From: mcsun!news.funet.fi!news.cc.tut.fi!kent@uunet.uu.net  (Kentt{l{ Marko)
Subject: TCJ HD controller article
Message-ID: <1992Dec16.113557.20514@cc.tut.fi>

Are any of you guys out there able to scan or something the article about IDE
HD controllers in The Computer Journal 48 Jan/Feb 1991 and email it to me or
post to this group so that we back here in Europe could get that article too ?

Thanks anyway,



-- 
Name    : Marko Kentt{l{
E-Mail  : kent@cc.tut.fi, kent@ee.tut.fi, MK102142@rapola.cc.tut.fi
Address : Paununkatu 5 33700 Tampere Finland
Phone   : +318-31-560467

------------------------------

Date: 18 Dec 92 03:53:28 GMT
From: europa.asd.contel.com!emory!utkcs2!jfarmer@uunet.uu.net  (SUSAN FARMER)
Subject: z-80 Fortran
Message-ID: <1grhvoINNfmq@CS.UTK.EDU>

I want to get Fortran for my Kaypro (*including* manuals).  Will pay shipping.

Barring that, could someone tell me hou to *use* Nevada Fortran?  I inherited
a copy (with *no* docs) when I purchased a used machine.  

Thanks
Susan

The news server on the machine my wife uses is broken soshe asked me to 
post this for her.  Please reply to her (farmer@cs.utk.edu).

	Thanks John T.

-- 
John T. Farmer, Jr.					jfarmer@cs.utk.edu
Full-time Daddy, Part-time Grad Student,
Full-time wage slave, Wood butcher when I can.

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Today's Topics:
                        Kaypro Parts Available
                      MORE ON THE ZTIME-I CALEN
                 Re: Kaypro II Video Problem (2 msgs)
                              SmallC 2.1
                             Z80 FORTRAN

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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 23:38:06 -0500
From: Jay Sage <sage@ll.mit.edu>
Subject: Kaypro Parts Available
Message-ID: <9212202338.AA15640@LL.MIT.EDU>

   My user group at the Boston Computer Society has collected a number of
Kaypro computers, some in excellent working condition and some no longer
working.  The latter will be offered for parts.  If you are looking for
items such as keyboards, motherboards, cathode ray tubes, K10 hard disks,
mechanical hardware, and so on, make me an offer.  I would really like to
see the things put to good use rather than given to the trash collectors.  I
also have several sets of manuals and various software items.  There is too
much stuff for me to catalog; if you think I might have an item you could
use, ask and/or make an offer, and I will see if I have it.


------------------------------

Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 05:02:00 -0500
From: greg.vigneault@bville.gts.org (Greg Vigneault)
Subject: MORE ON THE ZTIME-I CALEN
Message-ID: <435.540.uupcb@bville.gts.org>

 In message-ID <1992Dec14.033217.13185@nemesis.orchard-park.ny.us>
 adp@nemesis.orchard-park.ny.us (Alan Percy) writes...

AP> I have 15 bare circuit boards left for the Ztime-I.  The features
  > of the Ztime-I are:

 If this is a single-sided board, would you consider photocopying
 it, and offering it along with instructions, software, etc. ?

 Greg Vigneault

 Dec.20.1992.Toronto.Canada.
 greg.vigneault@bville.gts.org
                                                                                       

------------------------------

Date: 20 Dec 92 22:02:34 GMT
From: psinntp!blkbox!mknewman@uunet.uu.net  (Marc Kraker Newman)
Subject: Re: Kaypro II Video Problem
Message-ID: <1992Dec20.220234.12687@blkbox>

sage@LL.MIT.EDU (Jay Sage) writes:

>Several attempts to reply directly to "reynaert@arizona.edu" have failed with
>a "user unknown" message from the host, so I will post my response here.

>>> I have benn having problems with my communications when I use an external
>>> modem at 2400 BPS, Some characters are lost while the comunication is
>>> going on. This only happens when there is output to my adm3a screen.
>>> Curiously, this doesn't happen at 1200 BPS or less. Also I have down
>>> loaded files at 2400 BPS and no data has been lost...

>   This is a very well known problem with Kaypro computers.  It is the
>result of a poor design of the video display.  When a new line must be
>created at the bottom of the screen and the existing lines have to be
>scrolled up, the system takes so long that incoming characters are lost.  I
>don't use a Kaypro myself, but many friends do.  There is a file that
>implements a correction to this (I can't remember exactly what it does or
>how it does it).  A common work around is to clear the screen every time it
>fills up and to start again from the top.  If you don't get more specific
>advice from others who reply to you, get back to me and I will try to dig up
>that file for you.  It is posted on my BBS system, which is sponsored by the
>former Kaypro User Group of the Boston Computer Society (now broadened to
>include all CP/M and MS-DOS computers).  In case you are a BBSer, its phone
>number is 617-965-7046.  This reaches first a v.32bis modem and, if that one
>is busy, a USR Courier HST on line 2 (alternatively reachable directly at
>617-965-7785).

>-- Jay Sage

Jay, this is not totally correct.  I ran a USRobotics HST/V32/V42bis on my 
Kaypro 10 for several years, at 19200 baud, without problem.  I DID have to
rewrite the overlay for BYE and Ybbat to do this though, as they were incorrectly handling the Z80-SIO fifo.  The SIO has a 4 character incomming FIFO, and it
will allow you to do 19,200 (or maybe even 38400) without a hitch if you 
implement a queue, and every time you go to get a character off the SIO, insteadget the chars off the SIO, and put them in the queue, and then return the top
char off the queue.  I am going to include ybh-kay1.asm which implements this 
at the end of this message.

Please note, most modem overlays such as bye, mex and others did not implement
this.  Hope you can use it and hope it helps.  BTW, the queue I used is 256
chars, if you need a bigger one (long interrupts blocking the sio for example
during a disk read) then you will need to enlarge it.

Marc



------------------------------------------------------------------------------

       ORG 0103H

       JMP TURD
       JMP MODOUT
       JMP MDOUTST
       JMP MODINP
       JMP MODSTAT
       JMP PURGE
       JMP CARCK
       JMP DTRON
       JMP DTROFF
       JMP SET300
       JMP SET1200
       JMP SET2400
       JMP SET9600
       JMP SET19200
MHZ    EQU 06H               ; 4 MEGAHERTZ
PORT   EQU 04H               ; Data port
MDCTL1 EQU PORT+2            ; Modem control port
BRPORT EQU 0                 ; Baud rate port
MDRCV  EQU 1                 ; Modem receive ready bit
MDSND  EQU 4                 ; Modem CTS and Transmitter empty bits
MDDCD  EQU 8                 ; Carrier detect

BD300  EQU 5                 ; 300 BAUD
BD1200 EQU 7                 ; 1200 BAUD
BD2400 EQU 10                ; 2400 BAUD
BD9600 EQU 14                ; 9600 BAUD
BD192K EQU 15                ; 19,200 BAUD
;
;       ORG 0150H              ; FOR MY KSMAIL
       ORG  0A000H            ; FOR MY RECVMAIL
TURD:
;       call 5f82H           ;FOR KSMAIL
       CALL 51CCH            ;FOR RECVMAIL
       nop
       nop
       lxi h,junk
       push h
;       call 617fH
       CALL  53CBH          ;FOR RECVMAIL
       pop d
;
       MVI A,0               ; Set up to write register 0
       OUT MDCTL1
       MVI A,18H             ; Reset channel
       OUT MDCTL1
;
       MVI A,4               ; Set up to write register 4
       OUT MDCTL1
       MVI A,044H              ; Set 16x, 1 stop bit, no parity
       OUT MDCTL1
;
       MVI A,3               ; Set up to write register 3
       OUT MDCTL1
       MVI A,0C1H            ; 8 bits, Rx enable
       OUT MDCTL1
;
       MVI A,5               ; Set up to write register 5
       OUT MDCTL1
       MVI A,0EAH            ; Turn DTR, RTS back on
       OUT MDCTL1
;
       LXI H,MHZ
       RET
;
JUNK:  DB 'Kaypro 1-2-4-10 I/O, USRobotics HST compatable (souped up!).'
       DB  0dH,0aH,0aH,0
;
MODOUT:
       CALL MDOUTST
       JZ   MODOUT
       LXI  H,2
       DAD  SP
       MOV  A,M
       OUT  PORT
       MVI  A,5
       OUT  MDCTL1
       MVI  A,0EAH
       OUT  MDCTL1
       RET
;
MDOUTST:
       CALL CARCK           ; Turn RTS off while sending ONLINE only
       JZ   MDOUTST1
       MVI  A,0E8H
       JMP  MDOUTST2
MDOUTST1:
       MVI  A,0EAH
MDOUTST2:
       PUSH PSW
       MVI  A,5
       OUT  MDCTL1
       POP  PSW
       OUT  MDCTL1
;
       IN   MDCTL1           ; Get status
       ANI  MDSND            ; TX ready must be high
;
       MOV  L,A
       MVI  H,0
       RET
;
MODINP:
       CALL MODSTAT
       JZ   MODINP
       LXI  H,QUEUE
       LDA  OUTPUT
       INR  A
       STA  OUTPUT
       MOV  C,A
       MVI  B,0
       DAD  B
       MOV  A,M
       MOV  L,A
       MVI  H,0
       RET
;
MODSTAT:
       IN   MDCTL1              ; GET STATUS
       ANI  MDRCV
       JZ   MODSTAT1           ; NO CHARACTER, RETURN
       LXI  H,QUEUE
       LDA  INPUT
       INR  A
       STA  INPUT
       MOV  C,A
       MVI  B,0
       DAD  B
       IN   PORT
       MOV  M,A                 ; STORE THE BYTE IN THE QUEUE
       JMP  MODSTAT             ; SEE IF WE GOT ANOTHER WAITING
MODSTAT1:
       LDA  INPUT
       LXI  H,OUTPUT
       SUB  M
       MOV  L,A
       MVI  H,0
       RET
;
PURGE:
       MVI  A,0
       STA  INPUT
       STA  OUTPUT
       CALL MODSTAT
       JNZ  PURGE
       RET

DTRON: MVI  A,5
       OUT  MDCTL1
       MVI  A,0EAH
       OUT  MDCTL1
       RET
;
DTROFF:MVI  A,5
       OUT  MDCTL1
       MVI  A,068H
       OUT  MDCTL1
       RET
;
CARCK:
       MVI  A,10H
       OUT  MDCTL1
       IN   MDCTL1           ; Get status
       ANI  MDDCD
       MOV  L,A
       MVI  h,0
       ret
;
set300:mvi  a,bd300
       jmp  setbaud
;
set1200: mvi a,bd1200
       jmp  setbaud
;
set2400: mvi a,bd2400
       jmp  setbaud
;
set9600:mvi  a,bd9600
        jmp  setbaud
;
set19200:MVI  a,bd192k
;
Setbaud:out BRPORT
        LXI   H,0FFFFH
        RET
;
QUEUE:  DS    256
INPUT:  DB    0
OUTPUT: DB    0
;
        END
-- 
Marc K. Newman (N5SLG)			Is UNIX pronounced 
mknewman@blkbox.com 			"UNIQUES" or
PO BOX 591822				"EUNICHS"?
Houston, Texas 77259-1822

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Date: 21 Dec 92 03:18:01 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!caen!nic.umass.edu!news.mtholyoke.edu!news.unomaha.edu!cwis!winslade@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (John Winslade)
Subject: Re: Kaypro II Video Problem
Message-ID: <winslade.724907881@cwis>

mknewman@blkbox (Marc Kraker Newman) writes:

[munch]

>       ORG 0103H

>       JMP TURD           <<<----

You mean that the code I hacked with that label is STILL floating
around <blush>.  ;-)  ;-)  ;-)

Good day       JSW

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Date: 17 Dec 92 16:46:59 GMT
From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!mimbres.cs.unm.edu!constellation!a.cs.okstate.edu!rjs@uunet.uu.net  (STOLFA ROLAND JOSE)
Subject: SmallC 2.1
Message-ID: <1992Dec17.164659.9904@a.cs.okstate.edu>

Does anybody know how to get SmallC 2.1 to compile on a UN*X host?  I have
been trying, unsuccessfully, to get it to compile.  I am also interested
in any docs that may exist for it.  All I have are the files:

cc1.c cc11.c cc12.c cc13.c cc2.c cc21.c cc22.c cc3.c cc31.c cc32.c cc33.c
cc4.c cc41.c cc42.c cc5.c cc6.c ccdef.c

Any and all assistance would be appreciated.

Roland Stolfa				Internet:	rjs@a.cs.okstate.edu
Computer Science Department
219 Math Sciences Building		Disclaimer:	You've lost your mind
Oklahoma State University				if you think anyone
Stillwater OK 74078-0599				speaks for this place!

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Date: 19 Dec 92 19:04:00 GMT
From: enterpoop.mit.edu!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!stanford.edu!agate!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!linac!uchinews!lucpum.it.luc.edu!rdth2.rdth.luc.edu!pbricker@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Preston Bricker)
Subject: Z80 FORTRAN
Message-ID: <19DEC199213042399@rdth2.rdth.luc.edu>

I found my Nevada Fortran manual and will send you a photocopy or
perhaps a scanned text file if I get your snail address.  I have the
software on 8" disks, but my S100 system is down.  I also have four
Kaypro's (10, 1, 2X, 4+88) and would like you to send me a copy of
the programs on 5 1/4" disks.  Which model Kaypro did you get?

By the time we connect it will probably be next year before you get
the manual, but you will get it.  I'm on vacation between Xmas and
New Year's.

Preston Bricker
Loyola Univ Med Ctr		pbricker@rdth2.rdth.luc.edu
2160 S 1st Ave			708 343-7200 x4372 vox (Hines Hosp)
Maywood, IL 60153		708 216-2647 fax

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INFO-CPM Digest             Wed, 23 Dec 92       Volume 92 : Issue  147

Today's Topics:
   Administrivia: Change to distribution list/mailing list origin.
                            Disks to Swap
                     K10 hard disk does not boot
            Kaypro blowing fuses - hardware advice needed
                             Lisp, Scheme
                             Z-80 FORTRAN

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From: "John S. Fisher" <FISHER@VM.ITS.RPI.EDU>
Subject: Administrivia: Change to distribution list/mailing list origin.
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Date: 21 Dec 92 16:06:25 GMT
From: mccormac@ee.usafa.af.mil (Chris McCormack)
Subject: Disks to Swap
Message-ID: <1992Dec21.160625.871@usafa.af.mil>

I recently unearthed a carton of Verbatim 5.25 inch disks.  These
appear brand new (my guess is only 3 or 4 have seen the inside of a
disk drive).  If anyone out there has a use for Double Sided / Double
Density / 10 sector disks, I would be more than happy to trade you for
them.  (That's right, these are hard-sectored disks.)
    If you are interested in these (all 260 of them!), drop me a line.

					Chris McCormack
					mccormac@ee.usafa.af.mil

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Date: 21 Dec 92 23:33:41 GMT
From: jjj@mits.mdata.fi (Joni Jarvenkyla)
Subject: K10 hard disk does not boot
Message-ID: <1992Dec21.233341.17077@prime.mdata.fi>

My Kaypro 10 hard disk formats ok with FORMAT06 but when trying to
PUTSYS I get an error "DISK WRITE FAULT". Is there any way to overcome
this but getting a new drive? Lockbad does not help, it suggests
reformatting but this is of no help.

--
jjj@mits.mdata.fi | PGP 2.0 key available | PGP 2.0 avain saatavilla

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Date: 22 Dec 92 14:18:51 GMT
From: tron!news.pgh.wec.com!godel!oscsf@uunet.uu.net  (Chuck Fuller)
Subject: Kaypro blowing fuses - hardware advice needed
Message-ID: <1h784bINNli3@diamond.pgh.wec.com>

My trusty pre-'83 Kaypro II (which, by the way, was under 18 feet of
acidic, muddy flood water for a couple of days in '85) blew a fuse
mid-session the other day.  Of course, a replacement fuse blew
immediately upon power-up.  Being more oriented toward the software end
of the computing world (but having some basic understanding of how the
hardware works), I appeal to the Kaypro hardware gurus for advice on where
to begin my diagnosis, probable causes, etc.  

One point bears mentioning:  the machine currently has two half-height
drives squeezed into the top half of the drive cage, leaving the bottom
half open at the front.  I _think_ I saw sparks through this opening
when the first fuse blew, but I can't be certain.  There were no visible
sparks on power-up with the replacement fuse.

Examination of the motherboard and power supply show a little rust on
the solder but no obvious "burned" spots.  There appear to be no "rust
bridges" in the layout.  The only thing that I've noticed that seems
questionable is a small, blackened spot at the top of C1 on the power
supply. 

I'd appreciate any suggestions that you can provide.

A note to Jay Sage: keep those spare parts handy!

Thanks ...
- Chuck
spots.

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Date: 10 Dec 92 17:15:23 GMT
From: agate!biosci!uwm.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!Sirius.dfn.de!mailgzrz.TU-Berlin.DE!math.fu-berlin.de!fauern!uni-erlangen.de!cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de!ksweber@ucbvax.Berkeley  (Klaus Weber)
Subject: Lisp, Scheme
Message-ID: <1g7tvbEINNt6n@uni-erlangen.de>

Hi to all of you out of Erlangen!

I am the owner of a Amstrad CPC 6128 with 1Mb Ramdisk.
On this system I am running CP/M 3.0 and CP/M 2.2 since
several years. But now i'm going to study some computer
science at the university of Erlangen-Nuerenberg/Germany.

Therefor I need the programming language scheme, for doing 
the exercises at home. 

Is there any scheme-interpreter for my two CP/M systems?

Please write your hopefully lots of answers to the following
EMail adress: ksweber@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de

------------------------------

Date: 21 Dec 92 18:20:00 GMT
From: olivea!pagesat!spssig.spss.com!uchinews!lucpum.it.luc.edu!rdth2.rdth.luc.edu!pbricker@ames.arc.nasa.gov  (Preston Bricker)
Subject: Z-80 FORTRAN
Message-ID: <21DEC199212204927@rdth2.rdth.luc.edu>

Susan Farmer where are you?  My email to @cs.utk.edu bounced.
Email/FAX/mail/phone me your address and I'll send you a photocopy
of the Nevada Fortran manual.  I would like you to send me a copy
of the software on Kaypro disk.  Mine is on 8" but that system is down.
Which Kaypro do you have?

Preston Bricker				pbricker@rdth2.rdth.luc.edu
Dept of Radiotherapy			708 344-7200 x4372
Loyola Univ Med Ctr			708 216-2647 FA
Maywood, IL 60153

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INFO-CPM Digest             Thu, 24 Dec 92       Volume 92 : Issue  148

Today's Topics:
               For Sale: Running CP/M 2.2 S-100 System
                  More on the Ztime-I Calendar/Clock
                    Re: HD controller for Z80 ???
                        vt100 comm package wa
                  VT100 comm package wanted (2 msgs)

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Date: 11 Dec 92 21:16:42 GMT
From: cs.utexas.edu!natinst.com!news.dell.com!fisher.com!turtle.fisher.com!mwebb@uunet.uu.net
Subject: For Sale: Running CP/M 2.2 S-100 System
Message-ID: <1992Dec11.161642.147@turtle.fisher.com>

It's time for me to make space for a new generation of computers, 
so I have to part with my old reliable, easy to understand, 8-bit computer.
I'm asking $300 for all of it, including the CP/M texts and the BYTE,
MicroSystems Journal, and S-100 magazines.
I'd like to sell it all as a unit, but will consider parting it out after a few
weeks if no reasonable offers are received.
It is currently plugged in and running with no known problems.

HARDWARE
California Computer Systems 2810 Z-80 CPU - 4/8 Mhz
California Computer Systems 2422 Floppy Disk Controller
     IBM 3740 & system 34 standard compatible
     Shugart or PerSci drive bus     
     CP/M 128, 256, 512, or 1024 bytes/sector
     4 drives, any combination, single/double sided/density 8" / 5 1/4"
     2k bootstrap
California Computer Systems 2719 2-parallel, 2-serial I/O
     serial - Z-80 DART, RS-232c to 115.2k baud
     parallel - 6821 PIA, Centronics, 3 interrupt modes
          unidirectional 8-bit with handshake or 16 bit w/o handshake
California Computer Systems 2066 64k dynamic memory
     bankable, 4 - 16k blocks, 4116 200ns memory
2 - Qume DataTrak 8 - 8" disk drive, DS/DD (1 meg)
1 - Tandon 100-2 - 5 1/4 " disk drive, DS/DD
Integrand 1100 S-100 cabinet, 10 slot card cage & power supply
Freedom 100 terminal - 110 - 19.2k baud
     emulation - Hazeltine 1420, Televideo 910, Adds Regent 25, 
          ADM 3A/5, Freedom 100
All hardware manuals

SOFTWARE
Operating System - CP/M 2.2, with extensions from CCS for disk formats
Word Processing, Database, Spreadsheet
     Wordstar 3.3 / Mailmerge / Spellstar / Reportstar / Indexstar
     Calcstar, SuperCalc, DBASE II
Data Translation / Transfer
     Compat Multimedia Disk Transfer, MEX modem softare, Crosstalk
Software Development
     BD "C", Turbo Pascal, Digital Research Pascal MT+, 
     Microsoft Macro-80, Link-80, Lib-80, MAC, ASMB
     SYSLIB M80, L80, Debug, MBASIC, CBASIC II, Forth-83
miscellaneous games, utilities, and etc. on approx. total 75 8"
floppies, Several boxes of software manuals, books, and magazines

---------------------------------------------------------------------
Marc Webb   ---   Fisher*Rosemount Systems Div.   ---   Austin, TX
         mwebb@turtle.fisher.com   ---   (512) 834-7049
---------------------------------------------------------------------

------------------------------

Date: 14 Dec 92 03:32:17 GMT
From: cs.widener.edu!dsinc!ub!nemesis.orchard-park.ny.us!adp@g.ms.uky.edu  (Alan Percy)
Subject: More on the Ztime-I Calendar/Clock
Message-ID: <1992Dec14.033217.13185@nemesis.orchard-park.ny.us>

I guess I woke some of you old die-hard Z80 folk up with my posting
on my left-over Ztime-I calendar/clocks.  If I don't reply individually,
it's because I was swamped with requests on information.  (for you folks
that sounded desparate, you should have gotten a call or Email)

Anyway, here's the scoop:

I have 15 bare circuit boards left for the Ztime-I.  The features
of the Ztime-I are:

- Under Z80 CPU installation
- Adds 32 I/O ports that provide the date/time in BCD
- Maintains time from "coin" battery.
- Simple to build from good/detailed instructions.
- Complete driver software to set/get time from chip in C, Pascal, and Basic.
- All parts can be ordered from DigiKey.

If you send me a check for $15 a board, I'll send you a bare circuit card,
a copy of the manual, and a 5 1/4" disk with the driver software.  If all
you need is a bare board, then the price is $10/board.  This includes shipping
to North America.

I hope this answers all your questions.  I also beg for forgiveness from
any of you that hate commercial "Exploitation" of Usenet.

Alan Percy
61 Hawthore Dr.
Orchard Park, NY 14127


-- 
A nanosecond here, a nanosecond there, next think you know...
	 you have Real-Time!!!
Alan Percy.................adp@nemesis.orchard-park.ny.us		
                rutgers!ub!nemesis.orchard-park.ny.us!adp

------------------------------

Date: 11 Dec 92 23:49:50 GMT
From: europa.asd.contel.com!howland.reston.ans.net!wupost!waikato.ac.nz!comp.vuw.ac.nz!actrix!naos!ewen@gatech.edu  (Ewen McNeill)
Subject: Re: HD controller for Z80 ???
Message-ID: <RD2oVB1w164w@naos.actrix.gen.nz>

jm59@prism.gatech.EDU (MILLS,JOHN M.) writes:

> In article <1992Dec10.115013.18326@cc.tut.fi> kent@cc.tut.fi (Kentt{l{ Marko)
>  >I could really use hard disk controller for my trusty old Z80 machine. Are
>  >any of these beasts that connect directly to Z80 or its bus still available
>  >Used is fine too ...
> Many years ago, BYTE published a two-article series showing how to build a
> simple SCSI host adapter for S-100.  The second article gave an outline of
> driver software.  The host adapter was little more than a parallel port and
> addressing logic, since the disk drive's control was quite autonomous.

Much more recently (Jan/Feb 1991) TCJ (The Computer Journal) published 
an article on how to build a very simple SCSI port.  It was just a 8255, 
and some decoding logic.  The handshaking was mostly done in software, 
except for the ACK signal which was generated by a flip-flop.  I've had 
a quick hack board made from this circuit running on my Z80 machine for 
the past 15 months without any problems.  Transfer speed is limited to 
whatever you can persuade your machine to do in software - about 45K/s 
for my 4 Mhz 1WS Amstrad.  I've been talking about adding DMA support to 
it for a while.  I might have a go at it over the Christmas break.

> How about a modern redux with IDE? Those drives are pretty good value now,
> and the interface is probably dirt-simple.  (I'm just a simple M.E., so I

This was done even more recently in TCJ (Jun/Jul 1992 I think).  It 
mostly just turned a single 8 bit port into a 16 bit port by 
multiplexing.  It apparently works quite well.  It was connected to a 
board based on a 16Mhz Z280, and I think it used the built in DMA, so 
transfer speed would have been good.  There was some software (basic) 
with it too.

> John M. Mills, SRE; Georgia Tech/GTRI/TSDL, Atlanta, GA 30332

--
Ewen McNeill, ewen@naos.actrix.gen.nz (or ewen@actrix.gen.nz)

------------------------------

Date: 12 Dec 92 23:01:08 GMT
From: saimiri.primate.wisc.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!canrem!dosgate!dosgate![larry.moore%canrem.com]@ames.arc.nasa.gov  (larry moore)
Subject: vt100 comm package wa
Message-ID: <199212.4443.3253@dosgate>

Dave Weitermann, in message <1gbgc2INN8ai@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>,
asks: 
DW> Does anyone out there know of a communications package that can
  > perform minimally VT100 emulation?  I'm in need of one to connect
  > to our schools mainframe.  Thanks.


  >dave weitermann
  >bv548@freenet.cwru.edu
  >weitermann@admin.ripon.edu
  >weitermannd@acad.ripon.edu

(wet!pallio!dg) David Goodenough's qterm.com does a quite 
creditable VT100 emulation.


| {canrem, dciem}!lfergus!larry | Nanet CP/M conference chair person.  |
| CP/M UUCP/mail(using David Goodenough's uucp21b on a TeleVideo 803H) |
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044

------------------------------

Date: 12 Dec 92 01:47:46 GMT
From: agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!cleveland.Freenet.Edu!bv548@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (David S Weitermann)
Subject: VT100 comm package wanted
Message-ID: <1gbgc2INN8ai@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>

Does anyone out there know of a communications package that can
perform minimally VT100 emulation?  I'm in need of one to connect
to our schools mainframe.  Thanks.


dave weitermann
bv548@freenet.cwru.edu
weitermann@admin.ripon.edu
weitermannd@acad.ripon.edu
-- 

------------------------------

Date: 13 Dec 92 00:27:53 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!wupost!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!canrem!dosgate!dosgate![blair.groves%canrem.com]@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (blair groves)
Subject: vt100 comm package wanted
Message-ID: <199212.4443.3255@dosgate>

-> Does anyone out there know of a communications package that can
-> perform minimally VT100 emulation?  I'm in need of one to connect to
-> our schools mainframe.  Thanks.


Try David Goodenough's QTERM. It does VT-100, and supports transfer
protocols including Kermit and XModem.

blair.groves@canrem.com
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044

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Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #149
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INFO-CPM Digest             Mon, 28 Dec 92       Volume 92 : Issue  149

Today's Topics:
                   CPM Kermit for a TRS-80 Model 4
          qt-term disk or uuencode for Morrow (MD-11) needed
                        Re: Kaypro II (2 msgs)
                    Re: VT100 comm package wanted
                           Scheme for CP/M
                      TCJ HD controller article
   Well, if people are almost giving away CP/M stuff, some requests

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Date: 23 Dec 92 23:20:22 GMT
From: sun-barr!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!asuacad!cxkpv@ames.arc.nasa.gov
Subject: CPM Kermit for a TRS-80 Model 4
Message-ID: <92358.162022CXKPV@ASUACAD.BITNET>

Does anyone know how to get cp/m kermit to pass an <ESC> sequence to the
computer it is connected to via the serial port.  I need to send the clear char
acter to my school's cms system in order to get anywhere on it.  If anyone has
used kermit to connect to a cms before, please let me know how you dealt with t
he PF keys and clear keyboard mapping problems.


Thanks

------------------------------

Date: 15 Dec 92 04:11:30 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!yale.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!cs.utexas.edu!gateway@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: qt-term disk or uuencode for Morrow (MD-11) needed
Message-ID: <9212150413.AA08269@pepvax.pepperdine.edu>

Does anyone have qterm set up for a Morrow? Would you contact me, so I can
set it up for our Assoc. Dean? He'll send you a letter of thanks when he
gets it going, so that he can read his e-mail.

USnail:

Kim Cary
GSEP - Pepperdine
400 Corporate Pointe
Culver City, CA 90230

e-mail:
Kim Cary, GSEP Systems Support, Pepperdine University

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Date: 29 Dec 92 02:13:12 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!think.com!garyo@hplabs.hpl.hp.com  (Gary Oberbrunner)
Subject: Re: Kaypro II
Message-ID: <GARYO.92Dec28181312@prometheus.think.com>

In article <27709@optima.cs.arizona.edu> reynaert@cs.arizona.edu (Jim B. Reynaert) writes:

   Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
   From: reynaert@cs.arizona.edu (Jim B. Reynaert)
   Date: 7 Dec 92 21:37:07 GMT
   Keywords: SIO & CRT
   Lines: 18

	   I have benn having problems with my communications when I use an
   external modem at 2400 BPS, Some characters are lost while the comunication
   is going on. This only happens when there is output to my adm3a screen.
	   Curiously, this doesn't happen at 1200 BPS or less. Also I have down
   loaded files at 2400 BPS and no data has been lost... It would be nice for me
   to be able to communicate at 2400 BPS without having to guess what the output 
   to the screen was ex...    instead of more it writes "me" or instead of 
   password it types "psswd", I would like to know if somebody out there has or 
   had the same problem and if so how did you fix it. Is it probably a
   bad Microchi? And if so which one? 
	   I appreciate any help that I can get, thank you in advance
					   Jim.

   P.D. please send e-mail...

[I tried replying to this by email, but it bounced due to "User unknown"]

I see from this posting on comp.os.cpm that some people are doing serial
communications on a Kaypro II.  My mother has a Kaypro too, and she's about
to dump it in favor of a Mac.  What comm software do you use folks use on
the Kaypro?  Is it public domain?  Can I get a copy?  Can it do xmodem or
kermit or some such file transfer protocol?  Or do you know of any way I
can read a CP/M disk on anything else (even a PC would be OK, I can get it
to the Mac from there)?

ps: I suspect the answer to your question about data lossage is that you
are not using any flow control.  You probably have to set up your comm
package and your modem to do flow control (either software, ^S/^Q, or
hardware, RTS/CTS) between them.

pps: want a used Kaypro? :-)

Thanks!

				- Gary Oberbrunner
				Thinking Machines Corporation
				245 First St
				Cambridge, MA 02142
				garyo@think.com

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Date: 29 Dec 92 02:13:46 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!think.com!garyo@hplabs.hpl.hp.com  (Gary Oberbrunner)
Subject: Re: Kaypro II
Message-ID: <GARYO.92Dec28181346@prometheus.think.com>

In article <27709@optima.cs.arizona.edu> reynaert@cs.arizona.edu (Jim B. Reynaert) writes:

   Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
   From: reynaert@cs.arizona.edu (Jim B. Reynaert)
   Date: 7 Dec 92 21:37:07 GMT
   Keywords: SIO & CRT
   Lines: 18

	   I have benn having problems with my communications when I use an
   external modem at 2400 BPS, Some characters are lost while the comunication
   is going on. This only happens when there is output to my adm3a screen.
	   Curiously, this doesn't happen at 1200 BPS or less. Also I have down
   loaded files at 2400 BPS and no data has been lost... It would be nice for me
   to be able to communicate at 2400 BPS without having to guess what the output 
   to the screen was ex...    instead of more it writes "me" or instead of 
   password it types "psswd", I would like to know if somebody out there has or 
   had the same problem and if so how did you fix it. Is it probably a
   bad Microchi? And if so which one? 
	   I appreciate any help that I can get, thank you in advance
					   Jim.

   P.D. please send e-mail...

[I tried replying to this by email, but it bounced due to "User unknown"]

I see from this posting on comp.os.cpm that some people are doing serial
communications on a Kaypro II.  My mother has a Kaypro too, and she's about
to dump it in favor of a Mac.  What comm software do you use folks use on
the Kaypro?  Is it public domain?  Can I get a copy?  Can it do xmodem or
kermit or some such file transfer protocol?  Or do you know of any way I
can read a CP/M disk on anything else (even a PC would be OK, I can get it
to the Mac from there)?

ps: I suspect the answer to your question about data lossage is that you
are not using any flow control.  You probably have to set up your comm
package and your modem to do flow control (either software, ^S/^Q, or
hardware, RTS/CTS) between them.

pps: want a used Kaypro? :-)

Thanks!  Please respond by email to me if possible.

				- Gary Oberbrunner
				Thinking Machines Corporation
				245 First St
				Cambridge, MA 02142
				garyo@think.com

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Date: 13 Dec 92 17:31:51 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!wupost!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!asuacad!cxkpv@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: Re: VT100 comm package wanted
Message-ID: <92348.103151CXKPV@ASUACAD.BITNET>

While were in the subject, does anyone know of a vt100 communications program t
hat supports keyboard mapping?

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Date: 23 Dec 92 07:02:45 GMT
From: pa.dec.com!nntpd2.cxo.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!sousa.tay.dec.com!msdsws.enet.dec.com!secrist@decuac.dec.com  (Strong datatypes for weak minds.)
Subject: Scheme for CP/M
Message-ID: <2330@sousa.tay.dec.com>

	The best you will probably be able to was a package called ILISP.
	It is enough to be fun to hack with and could get you started in
	LISP, but does not offer enough functionality to come close to
	getting your through a real computer science course.  ILISP was
	not offered in source but seemed to work well and came with some
	useful documentation.  It was available from Royal Oak, etal. last
	time I looked.

	There are quite good Schemes that will run on low-end PCs,
	notably SCM.  Nothing that will fit inside of 64K though.

	Regards,
	rcs

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Date: 16 Dec 92 11:35:57 GMT
From: mcsun!news.funet.fi!news.cc.tut.fi!kent@uunet.uu.net  (Kentt{l{ Marko)
Subject: TCJ HD controller article
Message-ID: <1992Dec16.113557.20514@cc.tut.fi>

Are any of you guys out there able to scan or something the article about IDE
HD controllers in The Computer Journal 48 Jan/Feb 1991 and email it to me or
post to this group so that we back here in Europe could get that article too ?

Thanks anyway,



-- 
Name    : Marko Kentt{l{
E-Mail  : kent@cc.tut.fi, kent@ee.tut.fi, MK102142@rapola.cc.tut.fi
Address : Paununkatu 5 33700 Tampere Finland
Phone   : +318-31-560467

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Date: 25 Dec 92 02:59:21 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!wupost!emory!ogicse!qiclab!nosun!klic!dont@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Don taylor)
Subject: Well, if people are almost giving away CP/M stuff, some requests
Message-ID: <1992Dec25.025921.6219@klic.rain.com>

I mentioned to a CP/M owner that people had been letting go of a lot of CP/M
material recently on the net.  This person responded that he would actually
make USE of some things:

	North Star Horizon components
	   he had a cpu board fail and went through hoops to find another one
	North Net boards&software in particular
	North Star Horizon specific software
	Pickles&Trout CP/M for Tandy Model II

As long I am taking up net space, I have an old S100 box sitting on the shelf
that still works.  I might be interested in novel S100 cards, with software,
to give a reason to turn it on and make it run again.  What ever happened to
those associative memory (cam) boards that were introduced for the S100?
How about stepper motor controller boards?  Something other than cpu/8k ram/
floppy boards.

Thanks
Don Taylor
503-235-6853
dont@klic.rain.com
dont@pdaxs.techbook.com

Some mail gets lost going to klic.  I would love to see the result of a
'pathto klic' to help diagnose this, or ANY bounced mail reports including all
the 'Received By' lines.  Mail seems to get to pdaxs.  Thanks

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Today's Topics:
                               Fastterm
       Re: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #149, comm. with mapped keyboard
 Re: Well, if people are almost giving away CP/M stuff, some requests
                           Re: Wither ZCPR?
                        TRS80 Cheap! (2 msgs)
                             Wither ZCPR?

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Date: 30 Dec 92 18:03:17 GMT
From: agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!newshost.LaTech.edu!VM.CC.LATECH.EDU!BLICK@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: Fastterm
Message-ID: <168CDA985.BLICK@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU>

Has anyone used a terminal program called Fastterm? I downloaded
it and tried it on my Kaypro 4. It starts all right and displays
a message that says "Hit any key to continue."
 
The problem is that when I hit a key, the computer locks up. If
anyone has any suggestions or has any experience with this
program, I would like to hear about it.
 
Thanks for your help.
 
Eddie Blick(e-mail: blick@latech)
Louisiana Tech University

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 13:08:41 IST
From: "Jacques J. Goldberg" <PHR00JG%TECHNION.bitnet@VM.TAU.AC.IL>
Subject: Re: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #149, comm. with mapped keyboard

QTERM has it, and shows how to implement it.
You will also need the P.D. assembler and patcher pointed at in the QTERM
documentation.  QTERM and these are on SIMTEL20.
Very easy to implement even for a person like me with limited assembly
practice.
QTERM traps each keystroke, branches to some space where you can play, and
has a mechanism to let the rest of the program know if the stroke has to be
passed out to the comm. port right away, or be deferred, or be followed by
more stuff.
Actually that's how a QTERM user would simulate a VT100 keyboard for example.
If you know a little bit of Z80 assembly you will remap your keyboard in less
than 2 hours with a slow diskette system (testing faster with a HD of course).
David Goodenough (no error here I hope) thought about you when writing QTERM.
---------------- Jacques Goldberg - Technion, Haifa, Israel

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Date: 28 Dec 92 19:52:16 GMT
From: tron!news.pgh.wec.com!godel!oscsf@uunet.uu.net  (Chuck Fuller)
Subject: Re: Well, if people are almost giving away CP/M stuff, some requests
Message-ID: <1hnltgINNnn@diamond.pgh.wec.com>

In article <1992Dec25.025921.6219@klic.rain.com> dont@klic.rain.com (Don taylor) writes:
>I mentioned to a CP/M owner that people had been letting go of a lot of CP/M
>material recently on the net.  

Have I missed something ?!?  I've been looking for another Kaypro II or two 
(if you'll pardon the pun) at a decent price (say, $100, $150) for awhile 
now.  

Is there some group I should be watching in addition to this one and the 
misc.forsale.* groups?

- Chuck

------------------------------

Date: 31 Dec 92 18:55:02 GMT
From: crash!cwr@nosc.mil  (Will Rose)
Subject: Re: Wither ZCPR?
Message-ID: <1992Dec31.105502.13385@crash>

Steven Christensen (schriste@uceng.uc.edu) wrote:
: 
: Hi,
: 
: 	I am windering if Z-Systems ZCPR is available on the net?
: I know there are some SIMTEL-20 subdirectores, but I can't figure out
: what they contain, and what I need to get for ZCPR.
: 
: 		Thanks,
: 		Steven

I've just bought NZCOM from Jay Sage's wife's (brother's cousin's dog's)
outfit, and at $50 it's a steal.  I brought up ZCPR3.3 some years ago the
hard way, compiling each unit and then linking the system, (at least I
had an older Z-system to work in) and NZCOM is an enormous improvement,
and really just as compact.  If I were bringing up Z again, I'd simply
buy NZCOM straight away - it's not worth fiddling with older versions
unless the hardware is unusually intractable.

They also do a full set of current Z-sys utilities, which is a good idea
if you don't have easy net access.  In fact, with the dearth of CP/M 
archives around the place I'm not sure you *could* get hold of a full
set of utilities/help files without enormous phone charges.

There is a suprising amount of good work being done in CP/M, if you can
find it, and Sage's outfit is a good place to start looking.  The other
is probably The Computer Journal, (916) 645-1670. 

Good luck - Will
cwr@crash.cts.com

------------------------------

Date: 30 Dec 92 13:10:02 GMT
From: wshb!wcsn!stes@uunet.uu.net  (Robert Stes Stessel WCSN Manager)
Subject: TRS80 Cheap!
Message-ID: <869@wcsn.csms.com>

    	I have a TRS-80 w/2 8" drives & bunch of accounting
    software. It was given to me third hand by some one who knew
    nothing about computers and who's wife told him to GET IT OUT OF
    THEIR GARAGE!
    
    	I plugged it in and tried it. It booted and loaded it's
    DOS from disk, but when I booted it a second time, it seemed to
    score the surface of the disk. Not really wanting to spend a lot
    of time with it, I quit before I did any more damage.
    
    	Bottom line, it works sort of, if you have one or three
    already and want some good spare parts, or want to fix it up as
    an additional machine, it is in basically ok shape, I just don't
    need to play with ANOTHER operating system. (I'm already more
    deeply involved with Unix, DOS, & Commodore64 than I should be!)

    	Apparently the CPU, memory (64k) and monitor are ok, but
    it seems to have a disk problem. I never got as far as checking
    the second drive.

    	I would trade it for an old dos compatable printer, a
    commodore 80 column adapter for the c64, or whatever you have
    gathering dust in your ibm or c64 closet.
    	
    	If you have nothing to trade but want it anyway, don't
    dispair. If no one offers me anything in trade, I will give it
    away to the person with the best sob story. So if your church,
    school, club, etc. uses TRS-80's; you are a starving computer
    student; etc.; you want something for your kids to play with;
    need a boat anchor; etc.; you can come n' git it, or have it for
    the UPS from Maine. My wife wants it OUT OF OUR GARAGE!

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
      "So much has been given to me; I have no time to ponder over
               that which has been denied". Helen Keller
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
            World Service of the Christian Science Monitor
          WCSN Shortwave; Robert L. Stessel, Station Manager.
      P.O. Box 130, Costigan,ME 04423 USA....Tel.(207)-732-4366

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Date: 30 Dec 92 19:08:18 GMT
From: wshb!wcsn!stes@uunet.uu.net  (Robert Stes Stessel WCSN Manager)
Subject: TRS80 CHEAP!
Message-ID: <870@wcsn.csms.com>

    	I have a TRS-80 w/2 8" drives & bunch of accounting
    software. It was given to me third hand by some one who knew
    nothing about computers and who's wife told him to GET IT OUT OF
    THEIR GARAGE!
    
    	I plugged it in and tried it. It booted and loaded it's
    DOS from disk, but when I booted it a second time, it seemed to
    score the surface of the disk. Not really wanting to spend a lot
    of time with it, I quit before I did any more damage.
    
    	Bottom line, it works sort of, if you have one or three
    already and want some good spare parts, or want to fix it up as
    an additional machine, it is in basically ok shape, I just don't
    need to play with ANOTHER operating system. (I'm already more
    deeply involved with Unix, DOS, & Commodore64 than I should be!)

    	Apparently the CPU, memory (64k) and monitor are ok, but
    it seems to have a disk problem. I never got as far as checking
    the second drive.

    	I would trade it for an old dos compatable printer, a
    commodore 80 column adapter for the c64, or whatever you have
    gathering dust in your ibm or c64 closet.
    	
    	If you have nothing to trade but want it anyway, don't
    dispair. If no one offers me anything in trade, I will give it
    away to the person with the best sob story. So if your church,
    school, club, etc. uses TRS-80's; you are a starving computer
    student; etc.; you want something for your kids to play with;
    need a boat anchor; etc.; you can come n' git it, or have it for
    the UPS from Maine. My wife wants it OUT OF OUR GARAGE!

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
      "So much has been given to me; I have no time to ponder over
               that which has been denied". Helen Keller
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
            World Service of the Christian Science Monitor
          WCSN Shortwave; Robert L. Stessel, Station Manager.
      P.O. Box 130, Costigan,ME 04423 USA....Tel.(207)-732-4366

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Date: 31 Dec 92 04:08:50 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!caen!news.cs.indiana.edu!babbage.ece.uc.edu!uceng.uc.edu!schriste@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Steven Christensen)
Subject: Wither ZCPR?
Message-ID: <C03vIq.1n2@uceng.uc.edu>

Hi,

	I am windering if Z-Systems ZCPR is available on the net?
I know there are some SIMTEL-20 subdirectores, but I can't figure out
what they contain, and what I need to get for ZCPR.

		Thanks,
		Steven
-- 
Steven V. Christensen
schriste@uceng.uc.edu

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