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INFO-CPM Digest             Mon,  6 Apr 92       Volume 92 : Issue   23

Today's Topics:
                             Attache fix
                        More Sanyo Help Needed
                           Re: .ark and FAQ
                     Re:  INFO-CPM Digest V92 #21
                   Re: interrupts, arunz, problems
                   Re: OASIS (sp?) Operating System
               Re: Reply to Michael Traub, Brighton, UK
                             typing tutor
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Date: 4 Apr 92 16:29:56 GMT
From: news.u.washington.edu!milton.u.washington.edu!sperigo@beaver.cs.washington.edu  (Susan Perigo)
Subject: Attache fix
Message-ID: <1992Apr4.162956.15102@u.washington.edu>

Turned on my Otrona Attache with the keyboard not connected and ever since
it fails in this way.  With power on there is no monitor prompt for disks.
Disks don't boot.  The drive lights glow faintly while power is on and flash
as power is turned off.

Does this grand little computer have much chance at another life?  I replaced
the button battaries but have no test point docs.  Neither do the local fixers.

Please reply with mail.

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Date: Fri,  3 Apr 92 11:00:56 -0500
From: Jay Sage <sage@ll.mit.edu>
Subject: More Sanyo Help Needed
Message-ID: <9204031100.AA29631@LL.MIT.EDU>

   Well, I have overcome one part of the problem I was having getting MEX to
run on someone's Sanyo 1250, and now I face the next phase.

   Someone pointed out that there was a superbly written MEX overlay for the
Sanyo 1250 sitting right on my own Z-Node BBS!  I had not recognized it
because it used the ID letters SN instead of SY.

   Now the trouble is that the screen codes are all messed up.  That overlay,
I guess, includes only the modem-control-hardware overlay and not the
terminal overlay.  So, now I want to ask if anyone has a terminal overlay for
the Sanyo 1250 or, lacking that, a complete set of screen codes.  Someone
already gave me the basic ones.  Does it support any graphics characters?

-- Jay Sage


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Date: 4 Apr 92 19:42:29 GMT
From: bobsbox.rent.com!gnat!cmcewen@rutgers.edu  (Chris McEwen)
Subject: Re: .ark and FAQ
Message-ID: <iX2PiB1w164w@gnat.rent.com>

mrdunn@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael Robert Dunn) writes:
>  first, can anyone tell me where the FAQ for this group would be
> located and perhaps what it would be called?
>  second, could someone tell me the name of a program that would deal
> with programs ending in  .ark (something I could perhaps find at the
> oak.oakland.edu ftp sight would be very nice)

FAQ file? Hmmm, that's a novel idea. I don't think this group has seen 
one in a while. ;-)

As to your other question: UNARC16.COM is a self-extracting file that can 
then extract from *.ARC and *.ARK files. ARK11.ARK gives full 
functionality -- it can make, update, extract. The results are fully SEA 
and PKARC (oops!) compliant. Note: *.ARC and *.ARK files are identical in
structure. The difference in the extension is only to highlight files of 
interest to CPMers (the *.ARK).

 Chris McEwen    Internet: cmcewen@gnat.rent.com | The Computer Journal
 Editor, TCJ  uucp: ..!att!nsscmail!gnat!cmcewen | PO Box 12
                       GEnie: c.mcewen -or- TCJ$ | S Plainfield NJ 07080
 The Spirit of the Individual Made This Industry | 1-908-755-6186

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Date: 1 Apr 92 04:56:43 GMT
From: world!bmarcum@uunet.uu.net  (Bill Marcum)
Subject: Re:  INFO-CPM Digest V92 #21
Message-ID: <BM0J2J.575@world.std.com>

In article <9203301357.aa02448@APG-9.APG-9.APG.ARMY.MIL> ltelets@APG-9.APG.ARMY.MIL (Louis Teletski AMSTE-TAF 4377) writes:
>IF THE MEETING GOES ACCORDING TO HISTORY,  NEITHER WILL ANY ONE ELSE KNOW PIDDLE-DIDDLE ABOUT IT -= I EXPECT THE PM WILL COME UP WITH SOME "NEW ACQUISITION STRATEGY" AND ASK FOR COMMENTS.  THE MMS LOOKS CLEAN NOW--I'LL SWEAR I NEVER SAID THAT A T A LATTER
>THE CONTRACTOR WAS TO HAVE DONE THE TESTS, BUT WE HAVE NOT SEEN DATA YET.  SHOULD BE EASY TO SOLVE--I'LL SWEAR I NEVER SAID THAT EITHER.
>
>THIKN YOU SHOULD SEND A BACKUP TO PICATINNY???? A LOT OF TIMES THERE'S CHANGES TO THE PROGRAM THAT ARE ANNOUNCED AT THIS TYPE OF MEETING.
>
>LOU

Where is the original message that this was a reply to?  Am I missing something
by getting comp.os.cpm but not  being on the Info-CPM mailing list?  If so,
what is the address to subscribe to the list?

Bill Marcum  bmarcum@world.std.com

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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 92 09:30:16 -0500
From: Jay Sage <sage@ll.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: interrupts, arunz, problems
Message-ID: <9203310930.AA08790@LL.MIT.EDU>

Jeff Wieland added to my comments about using DI/EI around code that must not
be interrupted:

>> Shouldn't this code be examining the current interrupt state before it
>> goes changing them?

Yes, it certainly SHOULD.  However, as you noted yourself, it may not be
possible in operating-system code, which runs under severe memory
constraints.  This is something I will certainly look into (thanks for the
exact TCJ references).

My guess is that the problem does not affect very many people.  This was the
first report of any problem, though, of course, this is not always a good
indicator.  I am always amazed at how quick people are to blame software
problems on themselves rather than on the author (where it belongs), and
terrible bugs sometimes sit unreported for long periods of time.

-- Jay Sage


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Date: 31 Mar 92 19:27:38 GMT
From: haven.umd.edu!cs.wvu.wvnet.edu!a.cs.wvu.wvnet.edu!jdm@ames.arc.nasa.gov  (James D Mooney,205K, 7,2913548)
Subject: Re: OASIS (sp?) Operating System
Message-ID: <1977@h.cs.wvu.wvnet.edu>

From article <1992Mar26.170851.7959@petunia.csc.calpoly.edu>, by jgrimes@garden.csc.calpoly.edu (Joe Grimes):
> I need some information regarding a single user operating system called
> OASIS (sp?) used on S-100 bus computer that evolved to a multi-user
> operating system called THEOS (sp?). What I need is information that

This OS is described fully in the following book:

	THEOS/OASIS User's Handbook
	by Walter C. Stagner Jr.
	Weber Systems, Inc.
	8437 Mayfield Road
	Chesterland, Ohio 44026
	ISBN 0-938862-00-6   1985

As of 1985 THEOS was distributed by THEOS Software Company. 
The former distributor was Phase One systems.  I don't know if
they are still in business. no address is given in the book.

There is also reference to a THEOS User's Group:

	Fred Bellomy
	THEOS User's Group
	PO Box 2400
	Santa Barbara, CA 93120
	805/965-0265

The book lists the following implementations:

	Seiko 16-bit systems, apparently including much application
	software and a "CP/M Adapter" to run CP/M programs.

	ALTOS

	IBM PC/XT

	ONYX 186D (apparently a primary platform)

	Advanced Digital Super System II

Presumably the OS could be obtained (as of 1985) through the hardware
vendors.  Again, no addresses are given.
-- 
Jim Mooney				Dept. of Stat. & Computer Science
PHONE: +1 304 293 3607			West Virginia University
FAX:   +1 304 293 2272			Morgantown, WV 26506 USA
INTERNET: jdm@cs.wvu.wvnet.edu

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Date: 1 Apr 92 19:44:56 GMT
From: amethyst!salado!afthree.as.arizona.edu!tom@arizona.edu  (Thomas J. Trebisky)
Subject: Re: Reply to Michael Traub, Brighton, UK
Message-ID: <1992Apr1.194456.5788@salado.rc.arizona.edu>

jm59@prism.gatech.EDU (MILLS,JOHN M.) writes:

>On the other side, re: disassemblers, I had two ideas:
>
> (1) I found a Z80 dissassembler on OAK's SIMTEL mirror:
>     OAK.oakland.edu, /pub/simtel20/msdos (I think), as
>     /pub/simtel20/msdos/disasm/dasmz80.arc (whew)
>     I haven't ftp'd it nor tried it, but the name looks right.

I have a Z80 disassembler written in C (should be quite portable).
I run it under unix on a sparc and feed it intel hex files sucked out
of roms by my prom burner.  It would be easy to modify it to accept
other kinds of input (and to run on other systems).

Anybody that wants it, let me know.
--
	Tom Trebisky	ttrebisky@as.arizona.edu

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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 92 16:52:05 BST
From: Christopher Currie <c.currie@clus1.ulcc.ac.uk>
Subject: typing tutor
Message-ID: <15488.9203311552@clus1.ulcc.ac.uk>

>------------------------------
>
>Date: 28 Mar 92 04:54:56 GMT
>From: hp-cv!ogicse!adaptive!casey@hplabs.hpl.hp.com  (Casey Bahr)
>Subject: Wanted: Computer Typing Teacher for Kaypro
>Message-ID: <1992Mar28.045456.29484@asi.com>
>
>Does anyone have or know of a program written for a Kaypro II
>or Kaypro 10 that helps someone learn to type?  Much thanks
>for any and all replies.
>

The Caxton Touch 'n Go typing tutor for CP/M has a large terminal
installation file which I'm almost certain includes Kaypro. It's 
very good, though not PD.

Christopher Currie

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INFO-CPM Digest             Sat, 11 Apr 92       Volume 92 : Issue   24

Today's Topics:
                         CP/M on an Apple II
           Need info regarding OASIS (sp?) Operating System
         Prewritten Apartment management/accounting software
                       RC Piccolo boot & info ?
                   Re: OASIS (sp?) Operating System
                       The Word: Specials.cmp ?
                  Wordstar to DOS conversion - HELP!
                              Xerox 645
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Date: 23 Mar 92 15:10:28 GMT
From: meaddata!johnt@uunet.uu.net  (John Townsend)
Subject: CP/M on an Apple II
Message-ID: <1992Mar23.151028.13651@meaddata.com>

I run CP/M on an Apple //e with a Microsoft Premium Softcard //e installed.
This card is a 6 MHz Z80 coprocessor, 64K memory expansion, and 80-column
combination card that fits the AUX slot of the Apple //e.  However, I'm in
the process of migrating to an Apple IIgs, which doesn't have an AUX slot.
I'd like to know if there is a high-speed Z80 card that will work in one of
the standard slots of the IIgs, preferably without disabling the built-in
function of the slot or slowing down the system speed.  I've heard of an
"AppliCard" (or something like that), but don't know anything about it or
where I can get one.  I'd consider buying such a card from someone, or
trading the Softcard for it and a normal 64K/80-column card for the //e.
Thanks!

--
John Townsend                     Internet:   johnt@meaddata.com
c/o Mead Data Central             UUCP:       ...!uunet!meaddata!johnt
9555 Springboro Pike              GEnie:      J.E.TOWNSEND
Miamisburg, OH  45342             Telephone:  (513) 865-7250 
                                  Telefax:    (513) 865-1655

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Date: 27 Mar 92 05:39:51 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ucselx!petunia!rat!polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu!jgrimes@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Joe E Grimes)
Subject: Need info regarding OASIS (sp?) Operating System
Message-ID: <1992Mar27.053951.29345@rat.csc.calpoly.edu>

I need some information regarding a single user operating system called
OASIS (sp?) used on a S-100 bus computer that evolved to a multi-user
operating system called THEOS (sp?).  What I need is information that
might lead me to a copy of it and a computer that it would run on.
This information might include the developer and company that distributed
it and which class(es) of S-100 computer were compatible with it.

Joe Grimes
Professor
Cal Poly State University
jgrimes@polyslo.calpoly.edu

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 1:48:51 EDT
From: eudoh@st6000.sct.edu (Etop Udoh)
Subject: Prewritten Apartment management/accounting software
Message-ID: <9204070548.AA28196@st6000.sct.edu>

hi,

   excuse my brief interruption but I have but one question or request...

     I'm wondering if anyone knows of any Prewritten apartment 
    managing/accounting software ????
       thanks

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Date: 25 Mar 92 11:10:31 GMT
From: eru.mt.luth.se!lunic!sunic!news.funet.fi!kannel!news@bloom-beacon.mit.edu  (Willi Messmer)
Subject: RC Piccolo boot & info ?
Message-ID: <1992Mar25.111031.24136@lut.fi>

Hello net!

If someone of you have a boot disk or some general info on danish
RC Piccolo cpmbeast I would like to hear from you.

Willi

messmer@lut.fi

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Date: 27 Mar 92 06:05:33 GMT
From: baron!baron!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil  (Don Maslin)
Subject: Re: OASIS (sp?) Operating System
Message-ID: <1992Mar27.060533.28871@baron.uucp>

I have some information on OASIS and the company that still (as of a year or
so ago) supports it.  I'm sure that there were a number of S-100 machines 
that it was ported to, but the only one that I know of first hand was by
NNC (so called No Name Computer) Electronics in the L.A. area.  OASIS, of 
itself, was a multiuser operating system, rather in the vein of MP/M.  I 
think that THEOS was rather more the PC compatible implementation of OASIS.
I need to dig out some information from a text that I have, and will e-mail
it to you.
                                                 - don

Keeper of the CP/M System Disk | UUCP: {nosc ucsd crash ncr-sd}!pnet07!donm
Archives for the Dino(saur)SIG | ARPA: baron!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil
- San Diego Computer Society - | INET: donm@pnet07.cts.com

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Date: 7 Apr 92 15:32:27 GMT
From: cc.gatech.edu!news@gatech.edu  (Harold C. Forbes)
Subject: The Word: Specials.cmp ?
Message-ID: <1992Apr7.153227.3724@cc.gatech.edu>

I STILL use my kaypro to run the Word (a spelling checker).
I normally use it just for letters, but lately I've been
writing some technical stuff.  I added a bunch of words to
the specials.cmp file, but TW still displays them as not
being correctly spelled.  

I've lost the manual.  Could someone who remembers, or 
still has their manual tell me how to deal with additional
dictionaries?

Thanks.
	harold

PS.  If you know of a MSDOS or UNIX spelling checker that
works like the word on cpm, I'd like to know about it.

FORBES, HAROLD C.   N5JCM
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
uucp: ...!{allegra,amd,hplabs,seismo,ut-ngp}!gatech!cc!harold
ARPA: harold@cc.gatech.edu               PACKET: N5JCM @ W4QO

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Date: 6 Apr 92 17:08:01 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!megatek!tpd@hplabs.hpl.hp.com  (Tim Dietz)
Subject: Wordstar to DOS conversion - HELP!
Message-ID: <1992Apr6.170801.19175@megatek.uucp>

	Hi all.  I just subscribed to this newsgroup and noticed on an
	earlier posting that there is no FAQ.  In that case, I'm going
	to ask for help from you kind souls out there.  My wife has an
	Osborne Vixen and she'd like to convert some of her Wordstar
	files over to PC format.  Is there anybody who can give me the
	information on how to make this conversion?  She'll be doing
	work on Word for Windows when the conversion is complete.

	Please reply via e-mail.

	Thanks in advance.

	Tim

-- 

Tim Dietz
tpd@megatek.uucp

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Date: 26 Mar 92 14:56:52 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!crdgw1!malibu!cornett@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (dan cornett)
Subject: Xerox 645
Message-ID: <29025@crdgw1.crd.ge.com>

Does anyone know if the Xerox 645 word processor is CPM based?  If so,
do any of the floppy format conversion programs handle conversion of
Xerox 645 to MSDOS?

Thank you for any help.

Danny Cornett

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INFO-CPM Digest             Wed, 15 Apr 92       Volume 92 : Issue   25

Today's Topics:
                      CP/M <-> DOS file transfer
                      Hard disk for S-100, CP/M
                                MIX C
                       Name this Z80 micro !!!
                   Pointer to ADAPTEC Inc. wanted.
                       RC Piccolo boot & info ?
                   Re: interrupts, arunz, problems
                         Re: TRS-80 emulators
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Date: 24 Mar 92 15:27:05 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!network.ucsd.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu!utgpu!blaze.trentu.ca!ccksb@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Ken Brown)
Subject: CP/M <-> DOS file transfer
Message-ID: <1992Mar24.152705.2211@trentu.ca>

A friend has an old Epson CP/M system and wants to transfer files to a
DOS machine.  We can make up a null modem and Epson supplied a telcom
program called TERM.  Does anyone know what can be used on the DOS side
to talk "TERM"?

Thanks in advance...


-- 
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
|Ken Brown                                       voice: (705)748-1540   |
|Trent University Computer Services                fax: (705)748-1246   |
|Peterborough, Ontario                     internet: kbrown@trentu.ca   |
|Canada, K9J 7B8                                                        |
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Date: 14 Apr 92 13:38:21 GMT
From: dove!cme.nist.gov!kent@uunet.uu.net  (Ernie Kent)
Subject: Hard disk for S-100, CP/M
Message-ID: <2787@dove.nist.gov>

I have an S-100 based CP/M system. It's purely home-brew, and I can't 
get rid of it since there's too much effort invested in special-purpose
boards I've built for it. I would like to put a hard disk on it. It has
a 10 MHz 80186 CPU.

Does anyone have a reccomendation for a controller card? Does anyone make
them for S-100? Does anyone know how to interface a PC controller card to
S-100?

Thanks for any help.

Ernie Kent

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Date: 7 Apr 92 14:30:13 GMT
From: van-bc!wolfe.wimsey.bc.ca!rsoft!agate!spool.mu.edu!yale.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!cs.utexas.edu!tamsun!tamuts!jdb8042@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (John Donald Baker)
Subject: MIX C
Message-ID: <11948@tamsun.tamu.edu>

Not to steal any of Ed's thunder, but MIX C for CP/M may also be ordered from
MIX software themselves.  Just look for any POWER C ad to get their address/
phone #.

Make sure you say that you want the CP/M version.


John D. Baker  ->An Apple 3.5", 5.25", 8" PCPI Applicard ZCPR3 nut//
Internet:  JDB8042@{tamuts|rigel|sigma|summa|zeus|venus}.tamu.edu
UUCP:  The Black Box: ...buster!blkbox!jdb8042 [(713) 480-2686|-2685 (2400)]
BBSs:  JOHN BAKER on Z-Node #45 [(713) 937-8886],
The Vector Board [(716) 544-1863], PIC of the Mid-Town [(713) 527-8939]

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Date: 13 Apr 92 06:04:25 GMT
From: mcsun!news.funet.fi!cc.tut.fi!kent@uunet.uu.net  (Kentt{l{ Marko)
Subject: Name this Z80 micro !!!
Message-ID: <1992Apr13.060425.12510@cc.tut.fi>

Ok. Got a interesting problem for you guys out there. Name this Z80 based
micro and I'd be very happy about any info about this machine. I'm planning
too hook it up to my own Z80 machine.

MLGMBH 16214 CPU-Z82 E0081 :

--------------------------235mm----------------------------------
|                                                               | 
| *  *                   **8807A**				|
| *  *								|
| *  *                    *  					|
| *  *                    *					|
| 2*SCN2681A              *    					|
|                         *                         *		|
135mm                  D8257C-5                     *   *	|
|                                                   *   *EPROM	|
|                                                   *   *	|
|                                                  Z80		|
|								|
| .....32 pins......                  .....32 pins.....		|
| .....32 pins......		      ..2 pins			|
|				      .....32 pins.....		|
-----------------------------------------------------------------

Bought busses facing downwards.



E 1032 MLGMBH RAM 384 16082 :

Same size and similar bus to the right one on the above card. 
40 MK4564N-15 RAM chips (320Kb) and room for another 8 chips (total of 384Kb).
Got Intel D3242 on right just above the bus.


So what is this thing ? I'd be very grateful for documents about the bus
this thing uses so I could connect it to my own micro. All I got is these
two cards so I don't know anything more :-(

Thanks, maybe you could help me !

Make
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 18:51:43 IST
From: "Jacques J. Goldberg" <PHR00JG%TECHNION.bitnet@TAUNIVM.TAU.AC.IL>
Subject: Pointer to ADAPTEC Inc. wanted.

Sorry dear friends for this trivial request, due to my very remote location.

Would any Silicon Valley good soul be willing to try to get for me at least
an address and phone number, at best a FAX number, for ADAPTEC (peripheral
controllers) from whom I need a small spare part?

                                      Thanks in advance - Jacques
Please reply to   phr00jg@technion.technion.ac.il    with attention to the two
weird zeroes in phr00jg!

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Date: 25 Mar 92 11:10:31 GMT
From: eru.mt.luth.se!lunic!sunic!news.funet.fi!kannel!news@bloom-beacon.mit.edu  (Willi Messmer)
Subject: RC Piccolo boot & info ?
Message-ID: <1992Mar25.111031.24136@lut.fi>

Hello net!

If someone of you have a boot disk or some general info on danish
RC Piccolo cpmbeast I would like to hear from you.

Willi

messmer@lut.fi

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Date: 24 Mar 92 17:00:52 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!network.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!think.com!mips!news.cs.indiana.edu!news.nd.edu!mentor.cc.purdue.edu!noose.ecn.purdue.edu!ea.ecn.purdue.edu!wieland@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Jeffrey J Wieland)
Subject: Re: interrupts, arunz, problems
Message-ID: <1992Mar24.170052.9552@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>

In article <9203231428.AA27601@LL.MIT.EDU> sage@LL.MIT.EDU (Jay Sage) writes:
>
>   I would not expect ARUNZ to be doing anything with interrupts, but I have
>not looked at the source code yet to check.  Are you perchance now using the
>type-4 version of the program?  All type-4 programs have DI and EI
>instructions as part of the address relocation code in the type-4 loader,
>which occupies the second record of the COM file (bytes 80H to FFH).  I
>believe that this code cannot work with interrupts enabled because of the way
>it uses the stack pointer.
>
>   I should point out that versions 3.3 and later of ZCPR also have parts of
>the code that turn off interrupts and then reenable them.  This occurs in the
>
>-- Jay Sage (author of ARUNZ and ZCPR33 and later)

Shouldn't this code be examining the current interrupt state before it
goes changing them?  I mean, if interrupts aren't enabled, it should
detect this and not enable them when it gets through the critical
section of the code.

Bridger Mitchell had some examples for doing this in The Computer
Journal, Vols. 36 & 37.  Be sure to see both articles, because the
second has a work-around for a Z80 that the code in the first article.
Specifically, if an interrupt occurs while your code is checking the
interrupt status, the Z80 will wrongly report that interrupts are 
disabled.

On the other hand, the code to do this might not fit, either in the
Type 4 header or in the command processor.
--
			    Jeff Wieland
			wieland@ecn.purdue.edu

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Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 08:00:40 EST
From: wilker@hopf.math.purdue.edu (Clarence Wilkerson)
Subject: Re: TRS-80 emulators
Message-ID: <9204151300.AA03878@hopf.math.purdue.edu.math.purdue.edu>

 A TRS-80 Model I emulator was recently posted to the net
 (alt.sources??) as Xtrs. It compiled and ran (slowly) on my Sun
 3/50.

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INFO-CPM Digest             Thu, 16 Apr 92       Volume 92 : Issue   26

Today's Topics:
                             Attache fix
                           Re: .ark and FAQ
               Re: Need someone who knows about CPM...
                RE: Televideo 803H information wanted
                Re: TurboDOS file compression program
                 Reply to Michael Traub, Brighton, UK
             Urgent info/suggestions for CP/M 3+ (Z80)???
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Date: 4 Apr 92 16:29:56 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!usenet.coe.montana.edu!news.u.washington.edu!milton.u.washington.edu!sperigo@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Susan Perigo)
Subject: Attache fix
Message-ID: <1992Apr4.162956.15102@u.washington.edu>

Turned on my Otrona Attache with the keyboard not connected and ever since
it fails in this way.  With power on there is no monitor prompt for disks.
Disks don't boot.  The drive lights glow faintly while power is on and flash
as power is turned off.

Does this grand little computer have much chance at another life?  I replaced
the button battaries but have no test point docs.  Neither do the local fixers.

Please reply with mail.

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Date: 4 Apr 92 19:42:29 GMT
From: bobsbox.rent.com!gnat!cmcewen@rutgers.edu  (Chris McEwen)
Subject: Re: .ark and FAQ
Message-ID: <iX2PiB1w164w@gnat.rent.com>

mrdunn@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael Robert Dunn) writes:
>  first, can anyone tell me where the FAQ for this group would be
> located and perhaps what it would be called?
>  second, could someone tell me the name of a program that would deal
> with programs ending in  .ark (something I could perhaps find at the
> oak.oakland.edu ftp sight would be very nice)

FAQ file? Hmmm, that's a novel idea. I don't think this group has seen 
one in a while. ;-)

As to your other question: UNARC16.COM is a self-extracting file that can 
then extract from *.ARC and *.ARK files. ARK11.ARK gives full 
functionality -- it can make, update, extract. The results are fully SEA 
and PKARC (oops!) compliant. Note: *.ARC and *.ARK files are identical in
structure. The difference in the extension is only to highlight files of 
interest to CPMers (the *.ARK).

 Chris McEwen    Internet: cmcewen@gnat.rent.com | The Computer Journal
 Editor, TCJ  uucp: ..!att!nsscmail!gnat!cmcewen | PO Box 12
                       GEnie: c.mcewen -or- TCJ$ | S Plainfield NJ 07080
 The Spirit of the Individual Made This Industry | 1-908-755-6186

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Date: 24 Mar 92 07:42:32 GMT
From: aunro!ugc!ersys!davem@lll-winken.llnl.gov  (Dave McCrady)
Subject: Re: Need someone who knows about CPM...
Message-ID: <L0q5HB3w164w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>

trekker@buhub.bradley.edu (Tim Lister) writes:

> 
>     At my evening job they are having me sell off some 
> Rainbow 100A's that they used as terminals.
>     I am surprised people are still using CPM.  What is it
> good for?  What are its advantages?  The computers each have
> two 5.25" floppy drives.  HOw do I determine if they are 
> 800K or 1.6Meg?           

  They are neither.  They are single-sided, 96tpi drives ... about
400k.

Dave McCrady              davem@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
Edmonton Remote Systems:  Celebrating 10 years of service to Northern Alberta

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Date: 27 Mar 92 01:55:03 GMT
From: uunet.ca!canrem!lfergus!larry@uunet.uu.net  (Larry Moore)
Subject: RE: Televideo 803H information wanted
Message-ID: <XX00000020@lfergus.UUCP>

In Message-ID: <BKz3KM.85A@world.std.com>, bmarcum@world.std.com 
(Bill Marcum) writes:
>If the 803H is like the TPCI, it uses port 13H to bank-switch
>between ROM and RAM, and the top 16K of RAM is not switched.

Thanks, Bill! It's likely that Televideo used similar tricks on 
the whole line of their CP/M machines ... worth running with 
anyway :-)  Are there particular bit patterns used to swap in and 
to swap out banks?

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Date: 4 Apr 92 07:25:11 GMT
From: baron!baron!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil  (Don Maslin)
Subject: Re: TurboDOS file compression program
Message-ID: <1992Apr4.072511.17968@baron.uucp>

Sorry for the bandwidth on this, but the mailer-daemon struck again!

Len -

You write:
>I am trying to locate a compression program ( Squeeze , etc ) to run on a
>TurboDOS-8086 machine. It doesn't matter what compressor it is so long as a
>companion decompressor is available for MSDOS.
>
>Would any CPM-86 compressor run under TurboDOS-8086 ? If so , a pointer
>to that would be just as good.
>
It should.  To that end, I reviewed the files at SIMTEL20 under CP/M-86
and drew a blank.  The only thing they appeared to have was an Un-Sqeeze
program, which sounded like the opposite from what you wanted.

There is a possibility that you might want to explore, if you are not
successful in getting one directly.  That is to get the source for an
8080/Z80 compression program and translate it to 8086 compatible source
code and assemble it for your use.  To that end, following are a couple
of directory and file cites from SIMTEL20 that could be used in that
way.

Directory PD2:<CPM.SQUSQ>
CRNCH24S.LBR  B   97536  880218  Source for Cruncher/Uncruncher

Directory PD2:<CPM.ASMUTL>
XLT86.LBR     B   83584  850916  8080 to 8086 source code translator

It is possible that you might have to create some macros to convert Z80
instructions into something that the 8086 can do, but that should be the
only major stumbling block.

As a point of curiousity, what type of TurboDOS 86 system are you
running?  Single user or network?  What hardware?

Thanks . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - don



Keeper of the CP/M System Disk | UUCP: {nosc ucsd crash ncr-sd}!pnet07!donm
Archives for the Dino(saur)SIG | ARPA: baron!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil
- San Diego Computer Society - | INET: donm@pnet07.cts.com

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Date: 25 Mar 92 14:29:36 GMT
From: prism!jm59@gatech.edu  (MILLS,JOHN M.)
Subject: Reply to Michael Traub, Brighton, UK
Message-ID: <52795@hydra.gatech.EDU>

I am unable to get mail to traub@rtf.bt.co.uk.  Please excuse my posting
worldwide.  Perhaps someone will see this who can be more helpful than I,
however.

***************
From: MAILER-DAEMON@prism.gatech.edu (Mail Delivery Subsystem)
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
[etc, etc.]
---------------
Subject: re: CCS cp/m BIOS source

Michael --

Sorry for the delay.  My copy of the CCS documentation for cp/m 2.2
only reproduces the DRI documents.  It includes no ccbios.asm BIOS source 
except the skeleton that DRI provided to all their customers.  Sorry.

On the other side, re: disassemblers, I had two ideas:

 (1) I found a Z80 dissassembler on OAK's SIMTEL mirror:
     OAK.oakland.edu, /pub/simtel20/msdos (I think), as
     /pub/simtel20/msdos/disasm/dasmz80.arc (whew)
     I haven't ftp'd it nor tried it, but the name looks right.

 (2) Many BIOS were written with 8080 instructions, only.
     Do you _know_ you need z80 instructions decoded in your
     BIOS?  (Naturally, you may need a z80 source if you intend to 
     patch it with z80 opcodes.)

--------------
If anyone else can help, jump on.

Regards --jmm--

-- 
John M. Mills, SRE; Georgia Tech/GTRI/TSDL, Atlanta, GA 30332
uucp: ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!jm59
Internet: jm59@prism.gatech.edu
 "f U cn rd dis, U mst uz Unix!!!"  ...jaw

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Date: 4 Apr 92 07:40:06 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!think.com!spool.mu.edu!news.cs.indiana.edu!noose.ecn.purdue.edu!mentor.cc.purdue.edu!sage.cc.purdue.edu!tgf@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Trever Furnish - Starfreedom)
Subject: Urgent info/suggestions for CP/M 3+ (Z80)???
Message-ID: <43855@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>

Hello.  I know this is a ridiculus rush, but I'm left with little choice.
I have literally two to three weeks to learn everything I can about the 
CP/M software available for my computer's version of the OS, called in the
manual, "CP/M 3+", for the Commodore 128.  The processor used is the Z80,
without any math coprocessors or whatever else there is.  Several stores
have been unable to help me find the reference manual for the version I have,
and the I can't find any books in the campus library for my version.  I
don't even know what versions would be similar to the one I have or what 
versions came before and after it.  I have *very* little experience with 
it, so *absolutely anything* would be helpful and greatly appreciated.

The reason I am so desperately interested in the OS all of the sudden is it
seems to be the only chance I have of finding a *good* C compiler for my
computer.  Is there a C compiler for CP/M 3+ that conforms to the ANSI standard
or at least conforms completely to the K&R standard?  Is any of it available
from ftp?  Does anyone know of a source for the manual?

Knowing so little about the subject, if my post doesn't belong in the cpm
group, or I haven't given enough info or anything else is wrong, please tell
me...

Thanx,
Trever,
tgf@sage.cc.purdue.edu

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Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #27
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INFO-CPM Digest             Fri, 17 Apr 92       Volume 92 : Issue   27

Today's Topics:
                       CP/M Plus manual & K&R C
                         Email address proppi
                                FTP...
                     OASIS (sp?) Operating System
         Re: Need info regarding OASIS (sp?) Operating System
                     Re: The Word: Specials.cmp ?
                          TRS-80 Emulator(s)
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 03:35:52 -0400
From: ac959@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
Subject: CP/M Plus manual & K&R C
Message-ID: <9204170735.AA19729@cwns2.INS.CWRU.Edu>

Trever, the Commodore 128 runs CP/M Plus (aka CP/M 3.0).  If you 
have a manual for your 128, it includes a coupon that when sent 
in to DRI (Digital Research Inc.) along with a check for $19.95, 
will get you manual for CP/M Plus.  If you do not have the 
manual, I can send you a copy of the coupon which works equally 
well.  Send SASE and mention what it is for.
    
In regards to a full K & R C compiler:
    
C FEVER catch it!
    
I have copies of a booklet with the above title.  It explains 
all the features of the MIX C compiler and the MIX Editor.  If 
you would like to know more about these bargain priced products, 
send a stamped, self-addressed envelope to me at the address 
below.  Outside of the US, send $1.00 (refundable with your 
order) along with your name and address.  C FEVER, catch it for 
CP/M or DOS, without going broke.
     
To the best of my knowledge there is no ANSI compatible C 
compiler for CP/M.
    

--
 Ed Grey  \*\  Sysop of The Grey Matter BBS & RCP/M 213-971-6260
 P.O. Box #2186  \*\  Bitnet: ac959%cleveland.freenet.edu@cunyvm
 Inglewood, CA 90305  \*\  Internet: ac959@cleveland.freenet.edu
 USA \*\ v.: 213-759-7406 \*\ Fido: 1:102/752 \*\ GEnie: E.GREY1

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Date: 8 Apr 92 19:32:26 GMT
From: mcsun!fuug!nntp.hut.fi!puukko.hut.fi!k36888l@uunet.uu.net  (I Salmensaari)
Subject: Email address proppi
Message-ID: <1992Apr8.193226.29041@nntp.hut.fi>

Proppi kadotin email osoitteesi...

En saanut sit{ toimimaan....


- - - - - - - - - - - - Ilkka Salmensaari - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
  Cygnaeuksenkatu 8 A 14     EMAIL: Ilkka.Salmensaari@hut.fi (InterNet)
  SF-00100 Helsinki          Voice: +358-0-444-071
  Finland, EUROPE            Telex: +358-0-100-1825; Salmensaari Mikko

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Date: 8 Apr 92 08:59:04 GMT
From: mcsun!sun4nl!tuegate.tue.nl!rw9.urc.tue.nl!wspas59@uunet.uu.net  (Rob Gijsbers)
Subject: FTP...
Message-ID: <wspas59.702723544@rw9.urc.tue.nl>

This week I downloaded some CPM software from wuarchive.wustl.edu.
Because it had been arc-ed I downloaded the unarcer too, although I
already have one on my MSX system (with cp/m+).
Although I set the binary mode in FTP something is essentially wrong
with the files. After I copied them to 3,5" disks on an AT, and converted
them to cp/m format, the unarcer refuses to unarc them (well, that IS
what an unarcer should do isn't it...) . It keeps telling me that
something is wrong with the archive file header and then it skips some
bytes.
At first I thought it was the unarcer I downloaded. In my opinion it had
a strange length (just about 5KB) while the one on my MSX system is
about 15KB I believe, and that's just a cp/m conversion..... Maybe it
should be mentioned that this one won't unarc my files either.

Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong (without laughing me in the
face...) ?

 all help appreciated, 
  
   Rob
   wspas59@urc.tue.nl

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Date: 26 Mar 92 17:08:51 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!network.ucsd.edu!usc!newshub.sdsu.edu!ucselx!petunia!garden.csc.calpoly.edu!jgrimes@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Joe Grimes)
Subject: OASIS (sp?) Operating System
Message-ID: <1992Mar26.170851.7959@petunia.csc.calpoly.edu>

I need some information regarding a single user operating system called
OASIS (sp?) used on S-100 bus computer that evolved to a multi-user
operating system called THEOS (sp?). What I need is information that
might lead me to a copy of it and a computer that it would run on.
This information might include the developer and company that distributed
it and which class(es) of S-100 computers were compatible with it.

Joe Grimes
Professor
Cal Poly State University
jgrimes@garden.csc.calpoly.edu

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Date: 15 Apr 92 23:07:00 GMT
From: csusac!sactoh0!fcg@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu  (Frank C. Giachino)
Subject: Re: Need info regarding OASIS (sp?) Operating System
Message-ID: <1992Apr15.230700.2204@sactoh0.sac.ca.us>

In article <1992Mar27.053951.29345@rat.csc.calpoly.edu>,
jgrimes@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Joe E Grimes) writes:
> I need some information regarding a single user operating system called
> OASIS (sp?) used on a S-100 bus computer that evolved to a multi-user
> operating system called THEOS (sp?).  What I need is information that
> might lead me to a copy of it and a computer that it would run on.
> This information might include the developer and company that
distributed
> it and which class(es) of S-100 computer were compatible with it.
> 
> Joe Grimes
> Professor
> Cal Poly State University
> jgrimes@polyslo.calpoly.edu
 
--
 
Joe, I have an IBC MultiStar running Oasis.  It is an 8 bit multiuser
machine based on >Z80 processors.  For information re:machines contact
Integrated Business Computers, 21621 Nordhoff Street, Chatsworth, CA
91311...(818) 882-9007.  If they can't help you, I may be persuaded to
sell mine...:)  I have six serial (RS-232) ports and one Centronix, a 55
Meg HD, and Documentation for the system, which is no longer in print.  If
you find a system, and need help, just let me know, I'd be happy to help.
-- 
###########################################################
# Never attribute to malice #     sactoh0.SAC.CA.US       #  
# that which is adequately  #                             #
# explained by stupidity.   # UUCP=..ames!pacbell!sactoh0 #

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Date: 8 Apr 92 06:23:29 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!uicvm.uic.edu!u58288@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: Re: The Word: Specials.cmp ?
Message-ID: <92099.012329U58288@uicvm.uic.edu>

In article <1992Apr7.153227.3724@cc.gatech.edu>, harold@cc.gatech.edu (Harold C.
Forbes) says:
>
>I STILL use my kaypro to run the Word (a spelling checker).
>I normally use it just for letters, but lately I've been
>writing some technical stuff.  I added a bunch of words to
>the specials.cmp file, but TW still displays them as not
>being correctly spelled.
>
SPECIALS.CMP must be in alphabetical order.  THEWORD
includes the DICTSORT program to alphabetize lists.
Enter: DICTSORT SPECIALS.CMP to prep the list.  Your
original file is retained as SPECIALS.BAK.

>PS.  If you know of a MSDOS or UNIX spelling checker that
>works like the word on cpm, I'd like to know about it.
>
THEWORD was available for MSDOS 1.0.  It runs in later releases
od MSDOS, but it does not recognize subdirectories.  I don't
know if a version of THEWORD was ever produced that supported
subdirectories.

Alan R. Hinds U32472.uicvm.uic.edu

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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 12:20:20 EDT
From: eudoh@st6000.sct.edu (Etop Udoh)
Subject: TRS-80 Emulator(s)
Message-ID: <9204161620.AA17077@st6000.sct.edu>

hi,

  I recently saw a posting for a TRS-80 Model I emulator....
    Does anyone have any information on this and other TRS-80 emulators
  if there are any ????

p.s.  What system is it written for ????
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Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #28
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INFO-CPM Digest             Sat, 18 Apr 92       Volume 92 : Issue   28

Today's Topics:
                          CP/M <-> DOS disks
                             dos <-> cpm
                       GSX-80 and  other stuff
                        Re: CP/M <-> DOS disks
                     Re: CP/M Plus manual & K&R C
                           Re: dos <-> cpm
                              Re: Oasis
           Re: Urgent info/suggestions for CP/M 3+ (Z80)???
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 9 Apr 92 14:27:45 GMT
From: att!cbfsb!cbnewsg.cb.att.com!edbruij@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (edgar.de.bruijn)
Subject: CP/M <-> DOS disks
Message-ID: <1992Apr9.142745.17208@cbfsb.cb.att.com>

I am a new user and i could not find the FAQ for this newsgroup
So i'm sorry if i mess up your group.

My question is the following:

Does anybody out there know about the existance of a program which
runs under CP/M that can read DOS disks (360KB of course).

Please respond via e-mail to:


edbruij@hvlpb.att.com


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Date: 18 Apr 92 04:13:50 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!rpi!sci.ccny.cuny.edu!eleni.gc.cuny.edu!timessqr.gc.cuny.edu!cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu!NAV@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: dos <-> cpm
Message-ID: <1992Apr18.041350.22481@timessqr.gc.cuny.edu>

Hi,

I am looking for a program to run under dos that will let a pc 
read and write to a cpm disk.  There was one called uniform, does anyone 
know the publisher?  Or if not where to find shareware that does 
the same?  Please respond to me at nav@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu, or 
nav@cunyvms1 on bitnet.   Bob

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Date: 7 Apr 92 22:27:05 GMT
From: mcsun!unido!ira.uka.de!smurf.sub.org!altger!doitcr!jungkunz@uunet.uu.net  (Helmut Jungkunz)
Subject: GSX-80 and  other stuff
Message-ID: <1745@doitcr.doit.sub.org>

To: jacobsen@itexjct.jct.ac.il
Subject: Re: GSX software from DR?
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
In-Reply-To: <1211@itexjct.jct.ac.il>
Organization: DOITCR / FLOENZ1, Public Access Unix Munich/Germany
Cc: 
Bcc: 

Hi, from me, naturally. Here's my address:
Helmut Jungkunz, Zacherlstr. 14, 8045 Ismaning, Westgermany, T.089/96937

I have all kinds of goodies.
Ciao, regards and cu  (-: ,

-> Helmut Jungkunz <-

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Date: 18 Apr 92 16:28:45 GMT
From: ryptyde!tommy@nosc.mil  (Tom Williams)
Subject: Re: CP/M <-> DOS disks
Message-ID: <maqFJB3w164w@netlink.cts.com>

U32472@uicvm.uic.edu writes:

> In article <1992Apr9.142745.17208@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, edbruij@cbnewsg.cb.att.c
> (edgar.de.bruijn) says:
> >
> >Does anybody out there know about the existance of a program which
> >runs under CP/M that can read DOS disks (360KB of course).
> 
> Please respond to the group, as well as the original poster.
> I want to know this too.

There was once a program called Uniform, which had both CP/M and DOS 
versions, which allowed conversion of the other.  I believe another program 
was called MediaMaster.  No one I've contacted has a copy (of the CP/M 
version), and no one else had responded when I asked.

--
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 |   "The only winning move is ..     |  Tom Williams, Lemon Grove, CA.  |
 |  not to play." -Joshua, `WarGames' |  Internet: tommy@netlink.cts.com |
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Date: 18 Apr 92 14:02:48 GMT
From: hsdndev!cs!edwardp@yale-bulldog.arpa  (Edward P. Piecewicz)
Subject: Re: CP/M Plus manual & K&R C
Message-ID: <1992Apr18.140248.119@cs.umb.edu>

In article <9204170735.AA19729@cwns2.INS.CWRU.Edu> ac959@cleveland.Freenet.Edu writes:
>
>Trever, the Commodore 128 runs CP/M Plus (aka CP/M 3.0).  If you 
>have a manual for your 128, it includes a coupon that when sent 
>in to DRI (Digital Research Inc.) along with a check for $19.95, 
>will get you manual for CP/M Plus.  If you do not have the 
>manual, I can send you a copy of the coupon which works equally 
>well.  Send SASE and mention what it is for.

Digital Research is no longer supporting CP/M.  A few years ago, I sent
them a letter asking for information, the reply came from a totally different
company, was a form letter, and it did not answer my question.


-- 
Edward P. Piecewicz                       Internet:  edwardp@cs.umb.edu

Opinions expressed are my own and not those of UMass/Boston. 

------------------------------

Date: 18 Apr 92 13:38:40 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!network.ucsd.edu!usc!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!emory!athena.cs.uga.edu!rholmes@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Robb Holmes)
Subject: Re: dos <-> cpm
Message-ID: <1992Apr18.133840.18760@athena.cs.uga.edu>

In article <1992Apr18.041350.22481@timessqr.gc.cuny.edu> nav@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu writes:
>I am looking for a program to run under dos that will let a pc 
>read and write to a cpm disk....   

If you have FTP capability, you can get 22DISK from the Simtel-20 echoes,
under MSDOS/DSKUTL.  It's shareware.  The freely distributable version
supports many disk formats, and the registered version adds support for
even more. 

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Date: 7 Apr 92 19:56:33 GMT
From: charon.amdahl.com!amdahl!pacbell!sactoh0!fcg@uunet.uu.net  (Frank C. Giachino)
Subject: Re: Oasis
Message-ID: <1992Apr7.195633.14601@sactoh0.sac.ca.us>

In article <XqkJiB1w163w@coyote.datalog.com>, gramps@coyote.datalog.com
(harry kight) writes:
> I have recently obtained the following info regarding the OASIS
Operating 
> System:
>  
> Possible information and docs source:
> 
> Phase One Systems
> 7700 Edgewater Drive, Suite 830
> Oakland, CA 94621
> (415) 895-0832
>  
> Oasis/Theos Users Group:
>  
> Joe Trimble
> (415) 785-7355
>  
> I hope this is helpful!
>  
> (Also, the CPMTECH Fido echo is currently discussing OASIS...)
>  
> ---Gramps
 
--
 
I have Oasis documentation from Phase One.  If you have any trouble
locating same, I can probably get copies to you.  Phase One told me, when
I got my copies, that I got one of the last three available, and that
there would be no future printings of the doc.s.  If this turns out to be
the case, I would be happy to help.  I have the doc.s for the Oasis System
Reference Manual, the Executive (Exec) Processing lang., and Oasis Basic;
which IMHO is the best Basic around.  I may be able to locate more if
needed.  
 
I am running Oasis on an IBC MultiStar with 55meg HD and TeleVideo
monitor.  It will accomodate up to 6 terminals and one printer as it
stands now.  Pretty neat machine. 
-- 
###########################################################
# Never attribute to malice #     sactoh0.SAC.CA.US       #  
# that which is adequately  #                             #
# explained by stupidity.   # UUCP=..ames!pacbell!sactoh0 #

------------------------------

Date: 10 Apr 92 08:35:05 GMT
From: eru.mt.luth.se!lunic!sunic!dkuug!uts!id.dth.dk!mds@bloom-beacon.mit.edu  (Impedantzer (EMP))
Subject: Re: Urgent info/suggestions for CP/M 3+ (Z80)???
Message-ID: <1992Apr10.083505.7922@id.dth.dk>

ear@wpi.WPI.EDU (Mr. Neat-O [tm]) writes:

[stuff deleted]

>>The reason I am so desperately interested in the OS all of the sudden is it
>>seems to be the only chance I have of finding a *good* C compiler for my
>>computer.  Is there a C compiler for CP/M 3+ that conforms to the ANSI standard
>>or at least conforms completely to the K&R standard?  Is any of it available
>>from ftp?  Does anyone know of a source for the manual?

>I know of a good K&R C compiler for CP/M v2.2, so in theory it should work
>with v3+, but perhaps some other CP/M guru could explain how ther versions
>differ.  The compiler of which I am speaking is called Mix C, and it is


I think you'll be better of with the HiTech C if you want ANSI compatibility.
It's ANSI comp. and does floats and all. I've ported 'less' to my CPM machine.

Try to contact:

	HI-TECH Software
	P.O. Box 103
	Alderley
	QLD 4051
	Australia

or you could try to e-mail clyde@hitech.com.au .


Just my $0.0002 worth.

-- Michael

Michael Dantzer-Sorensen              e-mail: mds@id.dth.dk
Department of Computer Science        Tel. +45 45 93 12 22 ext. 5726
Building 344 & 345                    Fax. +45 42 88 45 30
Technical University of Denmark
DK-2800 Lyngby

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INFO-CPM Digest             Sun, 19 Apr 92       Volume 92 : Issue   29

Today's Topics:
                         CP/M on an Apple II
                         dos <-> cp/m on cp/m
                       DRI CP/M Plus manuals...
                   OPS5 / Dynamic Master Systems ?
                        Re: CP/M <-> DOS disks
                Re: CP/M Plus manual & K&R C (2 msgs)
                            Re: Kaypro II
           Re: Urgent info/suggestions for CP/M 3+ (Z80)???
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 23 Mar 92 15:10:28 GMT
From: meaddata!johnt@uunet.uu.net  (John Townsend)
Subject: CP/M on an Apple II
Message-ID: <1992Mar23.151028.13651@meaddata.com>

I run CP/M on an Apple //e with a Microsoft Premium Softcard //e installed.
This card is a 6 MHz Z80 coprocessor, 64K memory expansion, and 80-column
combination card that fits the AUX slot of the Apple //e.  However, I'm in
the process of migrating to an Apple IIgs, which doesn't have an AUX slot.
I'd like to know if there is a high-speed Z80 card that will work in one of
the standard slots of the IIgs, preferably without disabling the built-in
function of the slot or slowing down the system speed.  I've heard of an
"AppliCard" (or something like that), but don't know anything about it or
where I can get one.  I'd consider buying such a card from someone, or
trading the Softcard for it and a normal 64K/80-column card for the //e.
Thanks!

--
John Townsend                     Internet:   johnt@meaddata.com
c/o Mead Data Central             UUCP:       ...!uunet!meaddata!johnt
9555 Springboro Pike              GEnie:      J.E.TOWNSEND
Miamisburg, OH  45342             Telephone:  (513) 865-7250 
                                  Telefax:    (513) 865-1655

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 18 Apr 92 22:30:55 BST
From: Christopher Currie <c.currie@clus1.ulcc.ac.uk>
Subject: dos <-> cp/m on cp/m
Message-ID: <12389.9204182130@clus1.ulcc.ac.uk>

In addition to Uniform there is a product called DosDisk sold by
Sage Microsystems East, 1435 Centre Street, Newton Centre, MA
02159-2469. It claims to allow DOS disks to be read directly in a
CP/M machine. Price varies from $30 to $45 depending on version.

(I have no connexion with the firm except as a customer for another
product with which this one was advertised).

There are various PD programs for the  purpose on simtel20. The
only one I could make work was PCSWP05. It's rather slow, but it
does the job. You have to be able to configure your system to
recognize the physical format of the DOS disk.

Christopher Currie

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 19 Apr 92 03:34:41 -0400
From: ac959@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
Subject: DRI CP/M Plus manuals...
Message-ID: <9204190734.AA09240@cwns1.INS.CWRU.Edu>

   
Digital Research is no longer supporting CP/M.	A few years ago, I sent
them a letter asking for information, the reply came from a totally different
company, was a form letter, and it did not answer my question.
   
   
--
Edward P. Piecewicz			  Internet:  edwardp@cs.umb.edu
   
Opinions expressed are my own and not those of UMass/Boston.
   
                 ******************************
    
Edward, actually I misspoke.  The coupons are addressed to and 
should mailed to Commodore and not to DRI.  The manual that will 
be sent is a copy of the DRI CP/M Plus User's Guide, Programmer's 
Guide, and System Guide all bound into one volume.  It says that 
it is reprinted by Commodore with the permission of DRI.  Take 
care.
  

--
 Ed Grey  \*\  Sysop of The Grey Matter BBS & RCP/M 213-971-6260
 P.O. Box #2186  \*\  Bitnet: ac959%cleveland.freenet.edu@cunyvm
 Inglewood, CA 90305  \*\  Internet: ac959@cleveland.freenet.edu
 USA \*\ v.: 213-759-7406 \*\ Fido: 1:102/752 \*\ GEnie: E.GREY1

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Date: 14 Apr 92 04:03:35 GMT
From: pa.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!sousa.ltn.dec.com!kxovax.enet.dec.com!secrist@decuac.dec.com  (Strong datatypes for weak minds.)
Subject: OPS5 / Dynamic Master Systems ?
Message-ID: <368@sousa.ltn.dec.com>

	Anybody know if a vendor called Dynamic Master Systems is
	still alive ?  They produced OPS5 implementations circa 1986
	for CP/M-80.

	(Anybody have a copy they want to sell me ?)

	Regards,
	rcs

------------------------------

Date: 14 Apr 92 08:21:25 GMT
From: ftpbox!news.acns.nwu.edu!uicvm.uic.edu!u32472@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Re: CP/M <-> DOS disks
Message-ID: <92105.032125U32472@uicvm.uic.edu>

In article <1992Apr9.142745.17208@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, edbruij@cbnewsg.cb.att.com
(edgar.de.bruijn) says:
>
>I am a new user and i could not find the FAQ for this newsgroup
>So i'm sorry if i mess up your group.
>
>My question is the following:
>
>Does anybody out there know about the existance of a program which
>runs under CP/M that can read DOS disks (360KB of course).

Please respond to the group, as well as the original poster.
I want to know this too.

------------------------------

Date: 18 Apr 92 22:22:38 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!spool.mu.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!emory!athena.cs.uga.edu!rholmes@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Robb Holmes)
Subject: Re: CP/M Plus manual & K&R C
Message-ID: <1992Apr18.222238.29877@athena.cs.uga.edu>

In article <1992Apr18.140248.119@cs.umb.edu> edwardp@cs.umb.edu (Edward P. Piecewicz) writes:
>In article <9204170735.AA19729@cwns2.INS.CWRU.Edu> ac959@cleveland.Freenet.Edu writes:
>>Trever, the Commodore 128 runs CP/M Plus (aka CP/M 3.0).  If you 
>>have a manual for your 128, it includes a coupon that when sent 
>>in to DRI (Digital Research Inc.) along with a check for $19.95, 
>>will get you manual for CP/M Plus....   
[Edward replies:] >
>Digital Research is no longer supporting CP/M.  A few years ago, I sent
>them a letter asking for information, the reply came from a totally different
>company, was a form letter, and it did not answer my question.
>
I think the C128 CP/M manual and source code disks came from Commodore,
not from DRI.  In any case, as of one year ago, they were still available,
as was the 1581 (3.5 inch) version of C128 CP/M.

-------
Robb Holmes  WUGA-FM  Ga. Center for Continuing Ed.  Univ. of Georgia
rholmes@athena.cs.uga.edu  rholmes@uga.cc.uga.edu  bitnet:rholmes@uga
I have no opinions.  Any in this message were caused by an Opinion Virus.

------------------------------

Date: 19 Apr 92 01:53:32 GMT
From: bobsbox.rent.com!gnat!cmcewen@rutgers.edu  (Chris McEwen)
Subject: Re: CP/M Plus manual & K&R C
Message-ID: <XFggJB3w164w@gnat.rent.com>

edwardp@cs.umb.edu (Edward P. Piecewicz) writes:
> Digital Research is no longer supporting CP/M.  A few years ago, I sent
> them a letter asking for information, the reply came from a totally different
> company, was a form letter, and it did not answer my question.

There are licensed vendors selling CP/M. Alexander and Lord in the Bay 
area comes to mind, though you'd better be sitting down when you see the 
price. Another source (and MUCH more reasonable!): Lambda Software Publishing
(David McGlone). Let me know if you need the address.

 Chris McEwen    Internet: cmcewen@gnat.rent.com | The Computer Journal
 Editor, TCJ  uucp: ..!att!nsscmail!gnat!cmcewen | PO Box 12
                       GEnie: c.mcewen -or- TCJ$ | S Plainfield NJ 07080
 The Spirit of the Individual Made This Industry | 1-908-755-6186

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Date: 13 Apr 92 17:25:03 GMT
From: baron!baron!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil  (Don Maslin)
Subject: Re: Kaypro II
Message-ID: <1992Apr13.172503.9603@baron.uucp>

00mcfields@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:
>
>	I have an old Kaypro II computer, and I would like to know if there is
>any way to get ahold of some software for it.  All I have is some of the old
>1982-1984 software (Perfect Word, Perfect Speller, and several other Perfect
>programs)...  I would like to be able to find some new uses for the old
>computer.  Otherwise do you know anyone that I could get interested in buying
>it???
>
Are you aware of the vast store of CP/M software at SIMTEL20?  There
should be something there to meet your needs.


Keeper of the CP/M System Disk | UUCP: {nosc ucsd crash ncr-sd}!pnet07!donm
Archives for the Dino(saur)SIG | ARPA: baron!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil
- San Diego Computer Society - | INET: donm@pnet07.cts.com

------------------------------

Date: 10 Apr 92 20:21:42 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!cs.utexas.edu!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!descartes!napier.waterloo.edu!dmwick@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Dale Wick)
Subject: Re: Urgent info/suggestions for CP/M 3+ (Z80)???
Message-ID: <1992Apr10.202142.21647@descartes.waterloo.edu>

In article <1992Apr10.083505.7922@id.dth.dk> mds@id.dth.dk (Impedantzer (EMP)) writes:
>ear@wpi.WPI.EDU (Mr. Neat-O [tm]) writes:
>
>[stuff deleted]
>
>>>The reason I am so desperately interested in the OS all of the sudden is it
>>>seems to be the only chance I have of finding a *good* C compiler for my
>>>computer.  Is there a C compiler for CP/M 3+ that conforms to the ANSI standard
>>>or at least conforms completely to the K&R standard?  Is any of it available
>>>from ftp?  Does anyone know of a source for the manual?
>
>>I know of a good K&R C compiler for CP/M v2.2, so in theory it should work
>>with v3+, but perhaps some other CP/M guru could explain how ther versions
>>differ.  The compiler of which I am speaking is called Mix C, and it is
>
>
	There was a "FAQ about where to get C" -- sort of an overview of
what C compilers were available, and how K&R / ANSI each one was.
	I personally use Manx C, but it isn't ANSI, only K&R.

	If anyone else has the "Where to get C compilers FAQ" email me a
copy, and I'll repost it.  Alternatively who ever was building it could
post it directly. (The mail -> post prevents it from being put up several
times, as it was quite long).

			Dale
--
dmwick@descartes.uwaterloo.ca	| Ask me about my Coleco Adam.  It does tricks
CompuServe: 76545,2566		| Come to AdamCon04 in Cleveland, OH.
Sometimes: u190@cs910.cciw.ca	| My favorite clone: MS-DOS from CP/M
	President MTAG -- Metro-Toronto Adam user's Group

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Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #30
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INFO-CPM Digest             Thu, 23 Apr 92       Volume 92 : Issue   30

Today's Topics:
                        DOS <> CP/M under CP/M
                   RE: CP/M <-> DOS disks (2 msgs)
                     Re: CP/M Plus manual & K&R C
                    Re: Hard disk for S-100, CP/M
           Re: TRS-80 cross compiler/emulator etc. (2 msgs)
                 TRS-80 cross compiler/emulator etc.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Apr 92 17:25:52 IST
From: "Jacques J. Goldberg" <PHR00JG%TECHNION.bitnet@TAUNIVM.TAU.AC.IL>
Subject: DOS <> CP/M under CP/M

On Simtel-20 (sorry, no time to check where....) I found quite some time
ago a program TRANSFER that does it, fast and neat.
More often (because I download in office with a fast link) I would use
22DSK under DOS for the conversion, but from time to time I make such copies
at home with my dear LOBO-80, one 360k drive (40 tracks double sided) which
I use as the "MSDOS" drive for TRANSFER, and one 720k (80 tracks double sided)
holding CP/M.
To correctly use TRANSFER, it must of course be on a/the CP/M drive  (B disk
on my system). I never had any problem with this program, ecept that it halts
the computer, and you reboot, if you type in wrong diskettes assignments when
prompted. One of the most frequent typos is to say A: instead of A for a drive.
Again sorry (author, excuse me...) but I'm short of time to retrieve the
SIMTEL location of this program.
                                          Jacques

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Date: Tue, 21 Apr 92 9:50:26 MDT
From: "W.J.M. Nelis" <nelis@nlr.nl>
Subject: RE: CP/M <-> DOS disks
Message-ID: <199204210750.AA03009@nlrgup.nlr.nl>

In article <1992Apr9.142745.17208@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, edbruij@cbnewsg.cb.att.com
(edgar.de.bruijn) says:
>
>I am a new user and i could not find the FAQ for this newsgroup
>So i'm sorry if i mess up your group.
>
>My question is the following:
>
>Does anybody out there know about the existance of a program which
>runs under CP/M that can read DOS disks (360KB of course).

Try mirrors/cpm/dskutl/swp-ms10.ark from wuarchive.wustl.edu.  It contains
the Turbo Pascal sources of a program to read and write ms-dos disks on 
a CP/M host. You must adapt a few routines to your CP/M host. It uses a
SWEEP-like user interface, supports MS-DOS directories, knows about text
and binary files and contains a good error handling. 

-- 
W.J.M. Nelis (Informatics Division, IR-NOP)
National Aerospace Laboratory (NLR)           Email:   nelis@nlr.nl
Voorsterweg  31,  8316 PR Marknesse           Phone:   (+31) 5274 - 8421
P.O. Box    153,  8300 AD Emmeloord                    (+31) 5274 - 8444
The Netherlands                               Fax:     (+31) 5274 - 8210

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Date: 15 Apr 92 04:22:30 GMT
From: polari!bullis%polari.com@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Re: CP/M <-> DOS disks
Message-ID: <1992Apr15.042230.4042@polari.com>

<U32472@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:

>In article <1992Apr9.142745.17208@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, edbruij@cbnewsg.cb.att.com
>(edgar.de.bruijn) says:
>>
>>Does anybody out there know about the existance of a program which
>>runs under CP/M that can read DOS disks (360KB of course).


There is a program called, I believe, rdms.com.  I have a copy of it and it 
does the job.  The author has posted to this group within the last few months,
if I'm not mistaken.  Perhaps he will catch this and respond....

Larry		bullis%polari@uunet.uu.net

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Date: 21 Apr 92 14:57:44 GMT
From: eru.mt.luth.se!lunic!sunic!dkuug!uts!id.dth.dk!mds@bloom-beacon.mit.edu  (Impedantzer (EMP))
Subject: Re: CP/M Plus manual & K&R C
Message-ID: <1992Apr21.145744.666@id.dth.dk>

ac959@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ed Grey) writes:

>     
>To the best of my knowledge there is no ANSI compatible C 
>compiler for CP/M.
>    
Wrong!!! :-) The HiTech C compiler *is* ANSI compatible.

-- Michael

------------------------------

Date: 14 Apr 92 21:17:30 GMT
From: amethyst!organpipe.uug.arizona.edu!afthree.as.arizona.edu!tom@noao.edu  (Thomas J. Trebisky)
Subject: Re: Hard disk for S-100, CP/M
Message-ID: <1992Apr14.211730.15964@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>

In article <2787@dove.nist.gov> kent@cme.nist.gov writes:
>I have an S-100 based CP/M system. It's purely home-brew, and I can't 
>get rid of it since there's too much effort invested in special-purpose
>boards I've built for it. I would like to put a hard disk on it. It has
>a 10 MHz 80186 CPU.
>
>Does anyone have a reccomendation for a controller card? Does anyone make
>them for S-100? Does anyone know how to interface a PC controller card to
>S-100?

Nobody makes anything for S100 anymore, it is just a question of what kind
of controller card you can scrounge up, and if you can reverse engineer it
or find documentation.

Well, if you are really into homebrew, here are two pretty reasonable ways
to go:  The first is SCSI (SASI), this is really a pretty simple parallel
interface with a well documentated protocol.  I hacked together a simple
interface that worked, based on a 8255 PIO chip, but if I had it to do
again, I would probably just use ttl latches and buffers.  Simple hardware
means driving all the scsi states with software, no big deal.  You can
push more of the work into hardware if you want, add DMA, make it as complex
as you want to.

Another option is the very popular IDE interface being used in PC's.
A couple reasons this is not as attractive as SCSI:  It has a 16-bit data
bus (so if you want this in a Z80 system, forget it).  Also the price of
SCSI drives is about the same as IDE drives these days, so why mess with
the IDE jobs -- you also have to pry documentation out of the vendors
(which is not all that hard actually), and once again write a driver/bios
to support it.

Forget homebrewing an MFM interface unless you are a real whiz at designing
phase locked loops and such to build the data separator, go with the
"smart" drives like the SCSI.

Just my opinions after all.

--
	Tom Trebisky	ttrebisky@as.arizona.edu

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Date: 20 Apr 92 11:07:43 GMT
From: sol.ctr.columbia.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!mips!munnari.oz.au!ariel!ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au!luga!lux!9125113g@lll-winken.llnl.gov  (Mitch Davis)
Subject: Re: TRS-80 cross compiler/emulator etc.
Message-ID: <1992Apr20.110743.19887@luga.latrobe.edu.au>

In article <1992Apr16.090551.21922@cs.rug.nl> laverman@cs.rug.nl (Bert Laverman) writes:
>Mitch Davis writes:
>>Does anyone know about how I could go about getting a SYSTEM style
>>TRS-80 program up and running on an IBM-PC?  Many years ago I wrote an
>>8080 only CP/M 2.2 emulator (in Pascal!) but I fear the task of
>>expanding it to a Z80.

>There is a TRS-80 emulator for PC's. try the comp.sys.tandy group.

I had a good long look in comp.sys.tandy, but couldn't find it.  Any
ideas on where to go from here? (ftp address maybe?)

Thanks

Mitch.

---FD 1.99c
 * Origin: Mitch's Point (3:634/384.6)

------------------------------

Date: 15 Apr 92 05:05:40 GMT
From: baron!baron!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil  (Don Maslin)
Subject: Re: TRS-80 cross compiler/emulator etc.
Message-ID: <1992Apr15.050540.10032@baron.uucp>

It is not clear to me just what it is that you want to do on the PC.  Are you
talking about getting a TRSDOS emulator up?  Or is it to run a TRS-80 CP/M
program?

If the latter, the obvious choice is Sydex' 22DISK, which permits running CP/M
2.2 programs on a PC.  If the former, I cannot help you.

Keeper of the CP/M System Disk | UUCP: {nosc ucsd crash ncr-sd}!pnet07!donm
Archives for the Dino(saur)SIG | ARPA: baron!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil
- San Diego Computer Society - | INET: donm@pnet07.cts.com

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Date: 14 Apr 92 12:13:44 GMT
From: munnari.oz.au!ariel!ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au!luga!lux!9125113g@uunet.uu.net  (Mitch Davis)
Subject: TRS-80 cross compiler/emulator etc.
Message-ID: <1992Apr14.121344.4726@luga.latrobe.edu.au>

All:

Does anyone know about how I could go about getting a SYSTEM style
TRS-80 program up and running on an IBM-PC?  Many years ago I wrote an
8080 only CP/M 2.2 emulator (in Pascal!) but I fear the task of
expanding it to a Z80.

I have the SYSTEM program on the IBM no worries - it's running it that's
the problem.

Yours,

Mitch.

---FD 1.99c
 * Origin: Mitch's Point (3:634/384.6)

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INFO-CPM Digest             Sat, 25 Apr 92       Volume 92 : Issue   31

Today's Topics:
                   Amstrad PCW for Sale - Maybe...
                          DOS <> CPM on cp/m
                    File transfers for Epson PX-8
                      Re: DOS<> CP/M under CP/M
                      SUMMARY: Z80 disassemblers
                           TRS-80 Emulators
                       WANTED: Z80 disassembler
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Date: 22 Apr 92 20:21:58 GMT
From: hubcap!ncrcae!ccscola!kwyatt@gatech.edu  (Kershner Wyatt)
Subject: Amstrad PCW for Sale - Maybe...
Message-ID: <190@ccscola.Columbia>

Testing the waters of possible sale of an Amstrad PCW (complete)

Z-80
512K RAM
Dual floppies - 3"x4" hard shell, one drive is low density, other high
density - 1 MB.  Lots of spares - still orderable from Amstrad.
CPM/Plus
Dot matrix printer

All manuals
Software:
Locoscript 2 (Great WP package); Condor database; SuperCalc; DR Graph (good
graphics pkg); DR Logo; Mallard BASIC; others.

Machine was bought new and all software is original.  Reason for sale - Don't
use.  I work for a computer company, and see enough DOS and UNIX all day long.

Why sale is a maybe:  We packed up system and took it to my mother-in-law's
place.  If she wants it fine, maybe the grandkids of my in-laws can use it.  I
don't think it has been unpacked.  We are going to visit next week, so if there
is any interest, let me know soon.  

You will notice price is conspicuous by its absence.  Let me know what you
would be willing to offer and the terms (delivery,etc).

Kershner Wyatt
kwyatt@ccscola.ncr.com

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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 92 10:23:47 MEZ
From: Uwe Nass <UNF315@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>
Subject: DOS <> CPM on cp/m

Hi all,

I am also interested in reading, writing and maybe even formatting 360K
PC disks in my CPM drive. But as far as I learned, all programs that
are mentioned in this list, assume that the physical sector length is
512 bytes long. Debugging my BIOS I found that my FDC is programmed to
use 256 byte sectors and to pack 8 sectors on side 1 and 8 sectors on
side 2 (total: 16 sectors per track). Since the FDC is a uPD765,
which I think was used in old PC-XT's too, there should be no problems
doing the required tasks, if somebody can tell me how to progam the
appropriate registers; i.e. I need information for such things like
GAP length, fill byte, etc. Can anybody out there provide me this
informations? Has anybody written a program to format such a drive?
Is my opinion correct, that the physical data like HEAD UP TIME, STEP
RATE, HEAD LOAD TIME, neeed not to be changed?

                                                    Thanks in advance

                                                           Uwe

BITNET         UNF315@DBNRHRZ1.BITNET
INTERNET       UNF315@IBM.RHRZ.UNI-BONN.DE  (131.220.224.1)

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Date: 25 Apr 92 22:58:10 GMT
From: yale.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!cs.utexas.edu!news-is-not-mail@yale-bulldog.arpa  (Christopher G. Petrilli)
Subject: File transfers for Epson PX-8
Message-ID: <tco62INNqtf@cs.utexas.edu>

A friend of mine just got an Epson PX-8 and we need some way to transfer
files to and from it.  The terminal program he has for it only does ASCII
transfers and we have lots of programs (including other term programs)
that we'd like to be able to use with it.  If anyone has any kind of file
transfer utility, or term program that they could send him on PX-8 tape
or disk we would be eternally grateful.  Please direct your responses
directly to him at:

aggedor@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu

Thanks.

-- 
| Chris Petrilli
| petrilli@gnu.ai.mit.edu, petrilli@cs.utexas.edu
| I don't even speak for myself.

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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 92 9:13:11 MDT
From: "W.J.M. Nelis" <nelis@nlr.nl>
Subject: Re: DOS<> CP/M under CP/M
Message-ID: <199204240713.AA23583@nlrgup.nlr.nl>

PHR00JG%TECHNION.bitnet@TAUNIVM.TAU.AC.IL (Jacques J. Goldberg) writes:
>
> On Simtel-20 .. I found quite some time
> ago a program TRANSFER that does it, fast and neat.
>
Two remarks with respect to TRANSFER:
1- Guenter Radestock (Radest@IRA.UKA.DE) has recently improved TRANSFER.
   Some major bugs are removed from TRANSFER (you could not copy a file
   of exactly 64 KB).
2- SWP-MS10.ARK (also available on Simtel-20) is a complete rewrite of
   TRANSFER, with added functionality.

Wim Nelis, Nelis@nlr.nl


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Date: 24 Apr 92 13:42:10 GMT
From: prism!comlab.gatech.edu!bob@gatech.edu  (Bob Baggerman)
Subject: SUMMARY: Z80 disassemblers
Message-ID: <55630@hydra.gatech.EDU>

Many thanks to those who responded to my question about Z80 disassemblers.
Wow, I didn't know there was still so much CP/M and Z80 stuff around.  I am
impressed by all the goodies that are available, many of them home grown.
Anyway, on to the summary.

Most people mentioned some of the CP/M based disassemblers available on
SIMTEL.  Evidently there is even a CP/M emulator which will run these on
a non-CP/M box.  Neat!  There are also some cross-disassemblers available
from uunet and from the authors directly.  Finally, there is at least one
commercial product from Pseudo Corp in Newport News, VA.  A list of all the
different disassemblers and related stuff follows.

Z80 Disassemblers
  ZDASM         from SIMTEL20
  DAZZLESTAR    from SIMTEL20 
  Z80-DIS22     from SIMTEL20 
  Z8E           from SIMTEL20 
  DIS80         from astro.as.arizioni.edu
  ZMAC          from uunet
  FRANKENSTEIN  from wuarchive.wustl.edu

CP/M Emulator
  Z80MU52b      from SIMTEL20

Many thanks to those who responded.
  Clarence Wilkerson
  Ernie Kent
  Rich Drushel
  Jon Saxton
  Mike Spenser
  Tom Trebisky
  Jim Asman
  Paul Lenz
  Clyde Smith-Stubbs
  Eric Sosman
  Matt Kidd
  David Gingold

Bob

--
Bob Baggerman                         !  bob@comlab.gatech.edu
Communications Laboratory             !  rwb@csdvax.gatech.edu
Georgia Tech Research Institute       !  qseclrb@prism.gatech.edu
Atlanta, GA  30332  USA               !  404-894-3525 or 404-528-7660

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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 92 13:06:22 BST
From: Christopher Currie <c.currie@clus1.ulcc.ac.uk>
Subject: TRS-80 Emulators
Message-ID: <1580.9204241206@clus1.ulcc.ac.uk>

There is a TRS-80 Model III emulator called PC-THree available from
Hypersoft, PO Box 51155, Raleigh, NC 27609. This emulates the entire
machine, and provides a disk transfer program which creates 'filedisks'
on your MS-DOS hard disk from which TRS-80 operating systems and 
application software can be run. It works quite well, although the
graphics emulation leaves a lot to be desired. It will drive the PC's
serial port and a printer attached to the PC. There is no emulation
of the cassette port (and therefore no sound emulation). You really need
an AT or above to run it efficiently - otherwise the keyboard driver tends
to lose characters.

Since the model III emulates the Model I to a large extent, you can run
much Model I software on a MS_DOS PC under Pc-Three.

Hypersoft also produce PC-FOUR, which emulates the Model 4 in native mode
only. I'm not sure if it also emulates the LS-DOS operating system or
if you have to copy that to a 'filedisk' as with Pc-Three. Pc-four
will not emulate a Model 4 running CP/M.

I should be glad to know if any of the rumours of public-domain
emulators can be substantiated.

Christopher Currie

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Date: 21 Apr 92 15:33:09 GMT
From: prism!comlab.gatech.edu!bob@gatech.edu  (Bob Baggerman)
Subject: WANTED: Z80 disassembler
Message-ID: <55273@hydra.gatech.EDU>

Sorry if this is a FAQ and sorry if these news groups aren't the most 
appropriate place for this question but it was the closest fit I could 
find!

I need to find a disassembler for some Z80 code sitting in a system with
no documentation.  I have looked in a few magazines like Circuit Cellar, 
etc.  without much luck.  Can anyone recommend a source for either a 
software-only disassembler or an in-circuit-emulator which includes
disassembly capability.  I need to end up with a source listing that I can
then document (for future generations, presumably).  Money is no (well, it
actually always is but..) object.

Thanx in advance and sorry again for the sort of poor fit between my 
question and the major "theme" of the news group.  But I'm desperate!

Bob Baggerman
--
Bob Baggerman                         !  bob@comlab.gatech.edu
Communications Laboratory             !  rwb@csdvax.gatech.edu
Georgia Tech Research Institute       !  qseclrb@prism.gatech.edu
Atlanta, GA  30332  USA               !  404-894-3525 or 404-528-7660

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