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Does anyone have and experience or information about Ecosoft's C
compiler for the Z80s?

I'd be using it on an Apple ][+, under PCPI CP/M 2.2.

Thanks!
-- jim
 
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From: Rick Conn <RCONN@SIMTEL20.ARPA>
Subject: Re: LU for ZCPR3
To: NOLAND@USC-ISI.ARPA
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In-Reply-To: Message from "Steve Noland <NOLAND@USC-ISI.ARPA>" of Mon 30 Dec 85 18:06:57-MST
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I've spoken to Martin Murray about coming out with a version of NULU
which is Z3-specific, and he expressed interest in doing so.  I just
finished writing "ZCPR3: The Libraries", and once this is published I'll
try to get Martin a copy of the book and the source code so he can use
same to do the development.

	Rick
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I'll be releasing the sources to those tools in the next two months.
Probably wait until ZCPR3 3.3 is done.
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From: Mark Becker <Cent.Mbeck@oz.ai.mit.edu>
To: KPetersen@SIMTEL20.ARPA
Subject:   BBS's for the handicapped
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    Keith, are you aware of any bulletin boards anywhere that support
both ASCII and Baudot code?

     I know of one in southern Maryland run by a Dick Barth... thats
the HEX (for Handicapped Educational eXchange) machine.  It supports
ASCII at 300 baud *and* 45.45 baud Baudot code.  His machine, build a
couple of years ago from a Gov't grant, has quite a population of
hearing-impaired and blind people using it.

     The Baudot modems aren't anywhere near Bell 103 or 212A; they use
something called a Weibrecht (sp?) standard.  Mark tone at 1400 Hz,
space at 1600 Hz.  Also, they are *half* duplex.

     Please forward this as you see fit - I'm curious if more than one
of these "modified" BBS systems exist.

     Dick's hardware is oriented around a Smoke Signal Broadcasting
frame with a 15 MByte disk attached.

Regards,
Mark
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Subject: Modifying apple CP/M bios/bdos.
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	I have an Apple IIe lookalike, and I am trying to use the full 40
tracks that are available on the disk drives. Microsoft has not made this
especially easy, as they supply neither the MOVCPM utility nor the source
code for the BIOS or BDOS. I beleive that the modification requires only
a change in the system's BIOS to tell it that there are more sectors.
	From the information that I can dredge up, the system was originally 
set up for 35 track drives as the inner 5 were considered unreliable. The 
disk drives that I am using, and the disks I use, are, however, quite good
in this respect, and I want to use the extra 14% or so of disk space (I have
just the application for it....). Microsoft here in Australia have been
singly unhelpful (in fact, as soon as the word "source" was mentioned they
became rather abusive).
	Has anyone out there in Netland attempted this modification? If so,
please send mail to me directly. If anything comes of the responses, I will
post a summarised followup to net.micro.cpm and net.micro.apple .

						Thanks in advance...
						Phil Dimond.
						DEC CSS Sydney, Australia.

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t Corp.
	   ...! {decvax, ihnp4, ucbvax} !trwrb!felix!zemon
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From: brad@DCA-EUR.ARPA
Subject: 8251 USART
To: info-cpm@simtel20.ARPA
CC: brad@DCA-EUR.ARPA

It has been 8 years since I worked on the BIOS for my
NorthStar Horizon.  I just dug out the code and found that
you have to send the 8251 both a Mode Word to tell it either
Async or Sync and a Command word.  The code for my Horizon
was:
* Send Mode Word for Asynchronous Mode
*
	MVI     A,0CEH  ; 2 Stops, 16XClock, 8 Bits, No Parity
	OUT     3       ; Send to 8251 (This different from Data Port)

* Set up Control Word for 8251
*      
* RTS = Request To Send, ER = Error Reset
* RXE = Receive Enable, DTR = Data Term Ready
* TXEN = Transmit Enable
*
	MVI     A,37H   ; CMD: RTS, ER, RXE, DTR, TXEN
	OUT     3       ; Output to 8251

Hope this helps.
Brad

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From:  Boebert@MIT-MULTICS.ARPA
Subject:  Cursor Positionin in PCPI CP/M
To:  Boebert@HI-MULTICS.ARPA, info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
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Using PCPI CP/M on an Apple ][+, my Mince CONFGIG program tells me that
the cursor positioning sequence is ESC followed by = , that the cursor
position is to be sent row first, binary, uncomplemented, with a bias of
32 for the rows and 32 for the columns.

I send the console the following hex sequence:

1B 3D 20 20

and the result is not that the cursor homes, but a lower case "s" is
displayed.  Am I interpreting this cursor control definition (SOROC
emulation) correctly?

Thanx,

Earl (Boebert @ MIT-Multics)
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Subject: Re: Help needed with 8251 USART
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Date: 2 Jan 86 16:38:40 GMT
To:       info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA

> Does anyone out there have any experiece programming the 8251 USART?  I
> am using a Royal Alphatronic PC with CP/M 2.2, and want to be able to
> set and change the baud rate.  I have the data sheets for the 8251, and 
> through much experimentation, I am able to change the baudrate to suit
> my needs.  Unfortunatly, as soon as I try to send data out the port,
> the chip locks up.  Data coming in works fine.  Anyone know anything
> about this?  I can send you the code that I am using if you think
> that you can help me out...
> 
>                                Thanks...
>                                 Mike Spitzer
>                                 mjs@purdue-ecn
>                                 [decvax,ucbvax,ihnp4,inuxc]!pur-ee!mjs

I have tried to do the same thing on two different machines (one multibus
z80 based and the other an s100 8086 based) and found the same thing you
did.  What seemed to work was sending the initialization sequence twice,
e.g. write a subroutine to set up the 8251 and just call it twice in a
row. I'd be interested to know if this works for you......

-- 

	John Chapman
	...!watmath!watcgl!jchapman

	Disclaimer : These are not the opinions of anyone but me
		     and they may not even be mine.
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From: Thomas Reid <treid@MITRE.ARPA>
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To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
Subject: Ithaca Intersystems


Netlandians:

If any of you have an Ithaca Intersystems 800 or 500 with an interrupt
driven VIO serial board, there is hope!  The interrupt can be turned off
and then direct port addressing programs like MODEM7 or KERMIT can be used.
Contact me for further details.

Tom Reid (treid@mitre)
Mitre Corp., 1820 Dolley Madison Blvd., McLean, Va. 22102
(703)883-6556
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From: Mark Becker <Cent.Mbeck@oz.ai.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: 8251 UART
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I'm also having a problem with this beast...  I can reset the chip no
problem.... however, it has this "feature" of dropping DTR when I do
so, causing my Hayes 1200 to go on-hook.

Anyone know of a work-around (besides disabling DTR in the Hayes) ?


Mark
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Subject: Re: Help needed with 8251 USART
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> Does anyone out there have any experiece programming the 8251 USART?  I
> am using a Royal Alphatronic PC with CP/M 2.2, and want to be able to
> set and change the baud rate.  I have the data sheets for the 8251, and 
> through much experimentation, I am able to change the baudrate to suit
> my needs.  Unfortunatly, as soon as I try to send data out the port,
> the chip locks up.  Data coming in works fine.  Anyone know anything
> about this?  I can send you the code that I am using if you think
> that you can help me out...
> 
>                                Thanks...
>                                 Mike Spitzer
>                                 mjs@purdue-ecn
>                                 [decvax,ucbvax,ihnp4,inuxc]!pur-ee!mjs

Make sure the CTS (clear to send) line is either disabled or tied high.

--Chuck

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Subject: Re: Help needed with 8251 USART
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Date: 2 Jan 86 20:56:28 GMT
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Organization : Concurrent Computer Corp. (a P-E company), Tinton Falls, NJ
Keywords: 


I have shared your frustration with programming the 8251.  Maybe I can help
some.  First, you must 'kick' the 8251 into a mode where it will recognize
and accept the control byte.  If the board you are using has a hardware
reset facility of some type, that may work.  There is a pin on the 8251
that will physically reset the chip, and put it in a mode where it is
waiting for the control byte.  If your board doesnt have that (many dont),
you must send the 8251 several 'invalid' control bytes, which will get it
into a state where it is expecting the control byte.  I have found that
outputting several bytes of 0 will work.  I have seen some code use 2
zeros, and some use 3 zeros, it may not matter.  Once that has been done,
you set up the chip the way it states in the manual.  Your code looks good,
just add the outputting of serveral bytes of zero to the command port
first. 

Second, I have found several things with the 8251.  Some of the older
ceramic-body 8251 chips are not to be trusted.  I was told and found to be
true that you should stick to the plastic parts.  My ceramic 8251s were at
least 5 years old, so maybe newer ceramic parts are ok.  Also, I found that
some of my 8251s would not work correctly (sorry, I cant remember what
wasnt correct) when you ran them with NO PARITY.

Hope this help.

Tom
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Date: 3 Jan 86 04:22:10 GMT
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*** REPLACE THIS LINE WITH YOUR MESSAGE ***

What ROM and Bios Revision levels do you have ?
This makes MEGA-DIFFERENCE. Osborne originally messed with index registers
in version 1.0 of the rom, and neglected to save the IX and IY registers on
the stack in the bios.  Too make a long story shorter, turbo pascal and
others would not run on the machine, and many rumors spread about cpm3 being
incompatible with 2.2 software. Well, a simple rsx (about 8 bytes) inserted
in the system first will fix this trouble (First in, last out) and allow most
software to run.  Most since programs that modify cpm itself of course will
not run at all.  Perhaps this is what is happening with "Write-Hand-Man".
Please reply if you want the rsx source code or find *any* technical errors
in my account of index registers and the ozzy exec.
	     Jason Hamby --- ihnp4!akgua!sb6!scbhq!uahcs1!hamby
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From: Alex Pensky <aep%abic.uucp@BRL.ARPA>
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Subject: Re:  8251 Usart
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Date: 3 Jan 86 23:11:07 GMT
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> INITIALISE:	MVI	A,RESET 	;Puts 8251 in instruction mode
> 		OUT	MCNTR		;
> 		MVI	A,MINIT1	;sets up baud, etc.
> 		OUT	MCNTR		;
> 		MVI	A,MINIT2	;Puts 8251 back in normal mode
> 		OUT	MCNTR
> 		JMP	0
Hmm, how about that JMP 0? Does your BIOS reset the 8251 and write
"reasonable" MINIT1 and MINIT2 bytes to it on a warm boot? Mine sure
does (SANYO MBC-1000).  I use a routine just like yours but I just
return after calling it.
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I am looking for software for simulating sailboat racing.  USYRU rules
if possible.  My primary machine is a CP/M-80 micro, but i would also
be interested in something under UNIX.  I would also like to here about
any other sailing-related software out there.

			Mike Blackwell
			..ihnp4!aicchi!mdb
 4-Jan-86 10:31:40-MST,767;000000000000
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Subject: Need BYE339 overlay for Apple-Cat (with PCPI/AppliCard)
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The fact that I have an AppliCard (which is a co-processor type card
without direct access to the Apple ][ memory) means I can't use the
standard overlays.  Any assistance would be appreciated.  Thanks.

					- Ralph
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To:       info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA

I am running Montezuma Micro CP/M 2.2 on my TRS-80 Model 4P.  Both the
MDM730 that came with it and MEX which I finally got to operate (sort of)
ignore cursor motion codes.  (The only thing I use TRSDOS 6.2 for is my
vt52 emulator.)  If anyone can find a vt100 emulator for CP/M, or even a
program that will let me let escape codes through (this thing already emu-
lates an adm3a right off the bat), I would be very grateful.
					Carl Greenberg
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To: cem%intelca.uucp@BRL.ARPA, info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
Subject: Re: Help needed with 8251 USART

I may be naive, but the best place to go to school on any USART is the
overlays for MODEM7 and its descendents.  Go through the documentation
and find one that uses the USART, and download that overlay.  If the overlay
is squeezed and you can't read it, I will download it, unsqueeze it and
mail it to you. 
 4-Jan-86 19:04:04-MST,1324;000000000000
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From: Andrew Moore <T.MOORE%DEEP-THOUGHT@MIT-EDDIE.ARPA>
Subject: HELP! Need Apple 60k CP/M
To: info-cpm@BRL.ARPA
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   I have a program called CPM60.COM for my Apple CP/M system that supposedly
updates my 56k CP/M to 60k CP/M.  This program used to work for me, but for
some reason, every time I run it now, I get the message

   Disk space already in use

   Hit RETURN to re-boot system:

...I have a Sider hard disk that uses only 60k CP/M, so I need to get 60k CP/M
on a floppy if I want to reformat the hard disk at any point (I copy the
floppy's CP/M to the hard disk).  At the moment I am stuck with no 60k CP/M
at all.

   Has anyone run into this problemk before?  How do I get around it?

Thanks in advance.

-drew
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Subject: Re: terminal translator program?

Try pd:<cpm.term>gate.lbr on simtel20.  I haven't tried it yet but the name is
for Generalized Async. Terminal Emulator.  Slow as Kermit is, it does have
a VT52 emulator.  Your machine may be as off the wall as mine (an Ithaca
Intersystems), but I was abe to bash the information from my modem7
overlay into the kermit machine dependent modules in two hairraising nights
so that is a possibility.  Kermit is also handy if you have to access your
mainframe through a local area net which does not permit full 8-bit up-
and down loads.  I use Kermit for work and MODM700 for fun.
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Subject: Re: sailing simulations, etc
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I have seen Gold Cup Challenge advertised by Posey Yacht
Design, $40+3, color or mono, for Mac, Apple, or MS/PC-DOS
Machines.
Posey Yacht Design, Parmelee Rd., Haddam CT 06438 (203) 345 2685.

I don't know anything about it, but was thinking of ordering it.
If I do, I'll post a review.

Herman Silbiger ihnp4!homxb!hrs
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   I finally got a copy of CPM60.COM to work from a 44k CP/M disk, and I have
updated most of my disks to 60k again.  I would still be interested to know
what caused the "disk space in use" error to occur on blank, formatted disks
though (which did not have CP/M on them).

-drew
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Would anyone know where I could get a copy of Kermit 
for a CPM machine?

Thanx in advance.  -Cliff

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From: "Stephen C. Hill" <STEVEH@MIT-MC.ARPA>
Subject:  terminal translator program?
To: carl%proper.uucp@BRL.ARPA
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Message-ID: <[MC.LCS.MIT.EDU].773346.860105.STEVEH>

If you are using MEX, there is a status flag, FILTER, that can be set to
filter out all the lower non-printable characters.  Be sure to see that the
FILTER is set OFF.

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Has anyone written code to do this for ANY of the Apple CP/M
coprocessor cards (MicroSoft Premium SoftCard //e, ALS CP/M Card,
DRI Gold Card, and PCPI/AppliCard).  It would make portability
of certain applications easier, since one could include the
code for your processor when writing programs.

I imagine specs something like the following:

ApplePeek(address: integer) : byte; {Read a byte from Apple memory}

ApplePoke(address : integer, data : byte) {Write a byte to Apple memory}

					- Ralph W. Hyre, Jr.

Internet: ralphw@c.cs.cmu.edu (cmu-cs-c.arpa)	Usenet: ralphw@mit-eddie.uucp
Fido: Ralph Hyre at Net 129, Node 0 (Pitt-Bull) Phone: (412) CMU-BUGS

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Cliff,
Oh, what you've asked!  Check with me direct and I'll point you at the
archives of CU20B.  Gotta learn a few more things, tho, like type machine.

Regards,
David Kirschbaum
Toad Hall
ABN.ISCAMS@USC-ISID

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The kermit files are on cu20b in the directory ker:.  You can ftp them.

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In MEX there is an equate called FILTER that blocks out ctrl-codes as 
protection from static on the phone lines. If you need to use an editor
or something just turn off the FILTER with the STAT command from the MEX
command line. STAT FILTER OFF will turn it off, and STAT FILTER will
give you the current status of the equate.
 
--Arun Baheti
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From: Rick Conn <RCONN@SIMTEL20.ARPA>
Subject: Z-System Problems
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                   IMMEDIATE Z-SYSTEM PROBLEMS
                         by Richard Conn

                IF PROBLEM UNDER ZCPR 3.0/3.1/3.2
     As  many of you are aware,  there are various versions of my 
original  FCP floating around (version 1.4 is the latest I  heard 
of).   Somewhere along the way,  Jay Sage decided to reverse  the 
state of the program error flag.  This is a fundamental change to 
the definition in the ZCPR3 Environment descriptor,  and, as many 
of  you  who understand Z-System fundamentals are aware,  such  a 
change can have a ripple-effect over the entire Z-System.  If you 
are going to reverse the program error flag (like Jay did),  then 
you have to CHANGE EVERY PROGRAM WHICH USES THIS FLAG.
     As  you can guess,  I'm rather busy at this time  (like  all 
times,  it  seems),  and I really don't have the time now to scan 
every  program (over 70 programs with ZCPR3,  plus  DISCAT,  plus 
TERM III,  plus ...).   Hence,  Jay's action stands as-is for the 
time  being.   You will find some programs responding to  the  IF 
ERROR flag one way, others another, until I release ZCPR 3.3.  At 
that  time,  because Jay's approach DOES provide more flexibility 
to the system,  the IF ERROR flag will indicate no error if 0 and 
an  error  if  not 0;  if not 0,  the  specific  value  may  have 
significance in further identification of the error.


                        ZCPR3 CPR PROBLEM
     Jay  has  also taken it upon himself to play with the  ZCPR3 
CPR  and  modify  the  Environment  Descriptor  in  other   ways, 
particularly  by  making use of areas I had originally set  aside 
for user (rather than system) definition.   This impacts any user 
programs  which were freely using the user-defined  SYSENV  areas 
(which,  in particular,  impacts some of my plans with TERM III).  
Hence,  be  warned that if you are using Jay's ZCPR3 CPR,  it  is 
possible  that you may find things crashing down if some  program 
comes  in  and  modifies something in the  user-defined  area  of 
SYSENV.

                          GENERAL NOTE
     Both  of these problems reflect the consequences  of  making 
changes to the base of the Z-System itself.   Unlike conventional 
CP/M,  the  Z-System  is integrated with its programs to a  great 
extent.  Any change to a definition in the Environment Descriptor 
has the potential of impacting EVERY PROGRAM, forcing a change to 
be  required to EVERY PROGRAM.   If I had not already begun  work 
and plans on ZCPR 3.3,  I would really have been disturbed by the 
disruption  of the Z-System caused by Jay's actions.   As it  is, 
the creation of ZCPR 3.3 will naturally impact SYSENV,  and I had 
already  planned on making the required changes to EVERY  PROGRAM 
and DOCUMENTING the nature of the change (so that others  writing 
Z-System programs know what to look for).   Now that I am working 
full-time on the Z-System, I plan to keep an eye out particularly 
for  such disruptions in the future and stop them before they  go 
too far (if necessary).

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A file containing the problem report I just sent out on recent FCP's
and ZCPR3 CPR's is contained in:

	PD:<CPM.Z3NEW>ZPROBLEM.TXT
	PD:<CPM.ZCPR3>ZPROBLEM.TXT

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Does anyone out there have any first-hand experience with
"Write-Hand Man?"  It looks like a good addition to my Heath and
Osborne machines, but I'd like some user reaction first if
possible.

Thanks in advance.

                                ...Dick Stanley (stanley@usc-isif)
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Mike,

Does your CP/M bios do anything with this chip?   Are you sending out a
whole sequence of command bytes started with a reset (3 40H in sequence
I think)?

Marty
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I can't remember which PD file i found this in, but when run as per the 
embedded help file, the program zero's the size of the file (without erasing
the directory entry) es no bueno.
In case it is important, i'm running a Rainbow 100a with 5Meg Wini
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To: Blackwell <mdb%aicchi.uucp@BRL.ARPA>
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	There are programs offered on sailing simulation, naval design and
other areas through various sailing magazines.
	I purchased a set of so0ftware from Celestial Software.  The set of 5
diskettes pertained to sight reductions, astro bodie locations,
celestial fixes and many other applications and tables pertaining to
Celestial work.  
	I would recommend contacting the OSTAR, PHRF or MORA groups for further
info regarding specific software.  PHRF (Pacific Handicap Racing
Association) in San Francisco would be a good starting point.  I have
some addresses and phone numbers if you are interested in them.  I also
have some software taht I will sell cheap (It was bought for a Hawaaian
trip I made a few months ago but never used at sea).
	...Kerry
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I have no info on sailing simulation (though it oughtta be an intereting
hack .. lots of vector analysis there, I suppose, and simple yet interesting
graphics potential).

If it's skill-related stuff, I recall some interesting code in one of the
popular magazines (or did I see it in a Public Domain catalog listing
somewhere?) that gives lots of navigational support and utilities.

If THAT's what you're after, yell and I can try to dig out the pointers.

Regards,
David Kirschbaum
Toad Hall
ABN.ISCAMS@USC-ISID.ARPA
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The January, 1986 Public Bulletin Board phone number list is now
available from SIMTEL20 as:

Filename			Type	 Bytes	 CRC

Directory PD:<CPM.MISC>
OTHERSYS.JAN.1			ASCII	 70108  A6F8H

   **************************************************************
   *       As-yet-unnamed list of bulletin board systems        *
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   *               1979 - 1985  by  Bill Blue                   *
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   With the permission of Bill Blue, the originator of the
   PAMS list, The Houston Area Council of SYSOPS is taking on
   the maintenance and distribution of this list.

   Bill has requested that we rename the list to something else.
   Unfortunately, no other name has been proposed at this time,
   so if you have a suggestion, please drop me a line.

Please forward all additions/deletions/corrections to:

Stan Barber	uucp: ihnp4!shell!{graffiti|neuro1|rice}!sob
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Subject: Thanks for you help with the 8251


Thanks for all of your help with the 8251.  My problem was with the 
number that I was sending to put the chip back in "normal" mode
after initializing.  I also need a dummy read from the data port after
initializing.  Thanks to mknox@ngp.UTEXAS for sending me the
right number to use.   The following code works fine for me:

;MODEM PORT EQUATES
MCNTR	EQU	41H		;Modem control port
MDATA	EQU	40H
RESET	EQU	01000000B	;Value for port reset
MINIT1	EQU	01111110B	;Modem init value for baud, etc
MINIT2	EQU	00110111B	;puts it back in "normal" mode
;               ^^^^^^^^^ this is what I changed

	ORG	100H

INITIALISE:	MVI	A,RESET 	;Puts 8251 in instruction mode
		OUT	MCNTR		;
		NOP
		NOP
		MVI	A,MINIT1	;sets up baud, etc.
		OUT	MCNTR		;
		NOP
		NOP
		MVI	A,MINIT2	;Puts 8251 back in normal mode
		OUT	MCNTR
		NOP
		NOP
		IN	MDATA ; I added this line to my original code
		JMP	0               ; the warm-boot didn't hurt anything

If anyone is interested in a rather large collection of hints for 
programming the 8251, let me know via mail and I'll send it to you.

              Thanks again,
             
                 Mike -- mjs@purdue-ecn -- pur-ee!mjs

 7-Jan-86 02:28:36-MST,1403;000000000000
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From: "Paul R. Grupp" <GRUPP@mit-mc.ARPA>
Subject:  BEWARE! PHOTO.LBR
To: D-ROGERS@EDWARDS-2060.ARPA
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>  Date: Mon 6 Jan 86 10:23:40-PDT
>  From: D-ROGERS at EDWARDS-2060.ARPA
>  To:   info-cpm at AMSAA.ARPA
>  cc:   info-dec-micro at SU-SCORE.ARPA
>  Re:   BEWARE! PHOTO.LBR

>  I can't remember which PD file i found this in, but when run as per the 
>  embedded help file, the program zero's the size of the file (without erasing
>  the directory entry) es no bueno.
>  In case it is important, i'm running a Rainbow 100a with 5Meg Wini

This could be a syntax error...  The first filename given AFTER the photo
command is the name of the file to PUT THE "PHOTO" IN, and LAST comes the
command name to run and it's trail.  I too had problems with this program
where it created zero length "photo" files.  Also all of the programs run
with photo either crashed, or caused my hard disk to become very slow and
make lots of noise for EACH SECTOR read/write until a COLD boot was done!

--Paul

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Subject:  VT100 emulator


Fellow CP/Mers:

I have been looking for a VT100 emulation program for my CP/M system. I
recently downloaded a library called GATE from the Royal Oak RCP/M system.
Gate is a Generalized Asynchronous Terminal Emulator, that is customizable
by way of terminal definition tables.

The version I have is rev 0.85 . The documentation (dated May 6, 1985) refers
to an upcoming version 1.0 .  This is a pretty good, general purpose emulator,
but does not quite meet my needs. It has a built-in ANSI standard terminal
definition. This is not a full VT100 emulation. In particular, it does not
have the aux keypad that the editors on my work computers (VAXen/VMS) need.
I cannot add these because the function key definitions in the table are limited
to ten (I need at least 18).

Also, it is set up for direct port I/O for both the local terminal and the
communications to the remote system. This doesn't work for me because my
system has the display output and the keyboard input on different ports.
What I would like to do is use BDOS calls for console input/output. The
documentation talks about patching in user code for I/O, but the work areas
it points to seem to already have code in them. (Source code was not
distributed with the program.)

My system is an S-100 bus, Z-80 CPU running CP/M Plus (3.0). I use a VDB8024
video display board and a serial keyboard (Keytronics) on a home-built
interface.

Does anyone know of a later release of Gate, or a better terminal emulation
program (either P.D. or commercial, but customizable), or have more information
about customizing GATE ?

Much thanks for any help.

	Bob Haar	(313) 575-3193
	G.M. Research Labs	

	Net address:  HAAR.GMR@CSNET

	(since I am on CSNET, I cannot do FTP, but can get most P.D. software
	from local RCP/M systems.)

P.S. a plea to software developers - If you are writing CP/M software, please
use the standard BDOS calls for I/O rather than direct I/O or BIOS calls. Also,
if you are distributing public domain software or "freeware", please include
source code.

 8-Jan-86 08:48:20-MST,722;000000000000
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From: Hal Carter <cpm@AFIT-AB.ARPA>
To: info-cpm-request@AMSAA.ARPA
Subject: KERMIT for CPM3.0 Osborne Executive
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 Is there a version of KERMIT that works on an Osborne Executive.
I've tried the generic CPM 3.0 version, but nothing goes out the
AUX port to my modem.  (I have a Prometheus ProModem, and Modem 740
works fine).

Thanks for any leads.

cpm@WPAFB-AFITA.ARPA
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From:  "Paul E. Woodie" <Woodie@DOCKMASTER.ARPA>
Subject:  kermit/Osborne Executive
To:  info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
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I recently noticed a request on this mailing list for a version of
kermit to run on the Osborne Executive.  I have an Executive and tried
unsuccessfully to get several different cpm3 'generic' versions to run.
I don't know if my failure was due to equipment bugs in my particular
system, operator error on my part, or what.  In any case I finally got a
'generic' version from simtel20 written in turbo pascal.  That also (of
course) did not run completely on my system.  However, I modified it to
directly address the SIO ports instead of using the built-in AUX port of
the 'generic' versions.  Now it runs just fine.

I would be happy to share it with anyone interested.  I haven't so far
because I thought that maybe I had a flaky piece of hardware and my
problems were unique.

--Paul Woodie (Woodie.CPE at dockmaster)
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Date: 6 Jan 86 07:01:06 GMT
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To:       info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA

Thank you for all the help with getting MEX to acknowledge cursor motion.
However, under my Montezuma Micro CP/M, all the terminal programs I have
tried have a high amount of data loss.  I am continually losing bytes and
have trouble with cursor motion programs because they will often just
become so much gobbledeygook(sp?) when it loses the escape or the = or
one of the two following characters for cursor positioning.  Furthermore,
it sometimes crashes so that it will do something involving 7s, 's, and
a much smaller screen under something like vi.  Other times it will completely
forget cursor motion works at all.  However, this happens after I've been
in the terminal program for a while.  Does anyone have any idea how to correct
this?  The CP/M is running on a TRS-80 Model 4P and I go 1200BPS.
							Carl Greenberg
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Subject: Exidy Sorcerer II WP rom pac
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I am looking for a word processor rom pac for my Exidy Sorcerer II.  Does
anyone know how and where I can get one?  Would like to get something
better than "ED" for my kids to use for school.
 Thanks.

Larry Griffin
314-391-2523

856 Sugarhill Dr
Ballwin, Missouri 63021 
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Does anybody know the Disk Format (8 inch) of TURBO DOS? I'm using a

banked CP/M 3.0 which can read nearly any CP/M Format. But I didn't

manage to read TURBO DOS. Am I missing something?



Thanks in advance

Johann Zuschlag (I6191008@DBSTU1.BITNET)

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Subject: Turbo's AUX: device
Cc: sdcsvax!info-pascal@BRL.ARPA

When using CP/M Turbo Pascal to access a modem in slot #2 on an Apple,
input and output is done via the AUX: device (rdr: and pun:).  A simple
program to dial out on a Smartmodem would be:
 
        program dial_out;
        begin
           writeln(aux,'ATDT 555-1212')
        end.
 
This works fine on a CCS-7710 serial card, but NOT on the Videx PSIO card.
The only difference in the serial cards is the CCS uses a 6850 UART, while
the PSIO uses a 6551.  This appears to be a discrepancy with Turbo, as
both cards work fine with MEX and MODEM7.  Any comments?


--Irwin Hom	...crash!ihom@nosc

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From: waldron.Wbst@XEROX.ARPA
Subject: 8 bit data in Mex
To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
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Message-ID: <860110-070234-1908@Xerox>

Does anyone know of a way to patch Mex to allow 8 bit data to be passed
to the terminal.  I would like to have the remote host send graphics
characters to the screen but Mex seems to AND off the 8th bit.  Turning
on DEBUG shows that valid 8 bit graphics characters are being sent but
in normal terminal mode they get stripped.

Thanks,

Brian 
Waldron.wbst@Xerox.arpa
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From: Andrew Moore <T.MOORE%DEEP-THOUGHT@MIT-EDDIE.ARPA>
Subject: Problems with SECTION.ASM
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   I am using SECTION on my system but if I try to log intoan area that is
located on the currently-logged-in disk, SECTION returns me to the same
drive/user.  For example, if I am in A0: and run SECTION to go to an area
that is A3:, I will end up in A0: as the program had never been run.  I
can, however, jump to a user area on a DIFFERENT drive.

   1)  Is there a way around this problem?
   2)  If not, are there any other programs that perform the same function?

   In case my system configuration has anything to do with the problem, I am
running an Apple II+, MicroSoft-compatible CP/M card, and 10M hard disk.  Any
replies would be appreciated.  Thanks.


-drew
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To:       info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA

Hello:

	I am currently attempting to modify Apple CP/M for 40 track drive
operation. I have done this successfully, but to finalise the operation,
I need some software.
	I am wondering if anyone has source for a drive formatter to run
under Apple CP/M, or can advise me on how to modify COPY.COM (a Microsoft
supplied copy utility) to allow me to format 40 tracks.
	Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please mail responses to
keep net goo down to reasonable levels. I will summarise results on the
net.micro.apple and net.micro.cpm newsgroups.

				Thanks,
				Phil Dimond. 
				...decvax!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-aussie!dimond

"If all else fails, take the engineering approach: hit it with a hammer."

	All opinions expressed here are those of myself only, and not 
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Andrew--

	You are probably trying to run it on ZCPR2, right? I had the
same problem when I ran the 8080 version of SECTION on my ZCPR2.
SECTION just quietly exits back to te system without a warmboot, and
that seems to be needed in Z2 for it to change the current d/u msg.
Run SECTION  and then after it exits back to the system hit a ctrl-c
and see if you are where you should be.

	I have a m80 compat SECTION that SHOULD work for you; it
did for me. Good luck...
 
--Arun Baheti
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Has anybody gotten this program to work an an Osborne 1 (ROM 1.44)?  I
suppose I could scrounge up the info on making it talk to the (memory
mapped) serial port, but would greatly appreciate any hints anyone
might have.
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reply to: Charles Loader - ihp4!garfield!charles1


Charles, I would like to get that address of the Dutch users group.
Please send reply to the net PATH = ihnp4!we53!llg.
Thanks again for your reply and information.
llg.
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Subject: Turbo-Kermit for Apple-CP/M query
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To:       info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA

I'm looking for a Turbo-Pascal-Kermit for CP/M 2.23 on the Apple ][+ with
MS-Softcard and CCS 7710 RS232-Interface in Slot 2. If there are
any hints please send mail to

     Uwe Hoch
     Computer Science Department, University of Dortmund
     4600 Dortmund 50, P.O. Box 500500, W.-Germany
     E-mail address UUCP: ...seismo!unido!uh
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Gentleman;
	I'd like to get a copy of zcpr3 source for my own
CPM system.
	Can someone tell me of a site (or other source) that
i can get it from (would prefer a site i can access via uucp;
but will except most any source).

	Thanks in advance
	Rich Kensicki
	201-386-6391
	harpo!rhk
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Subject: CP/M Linker, HELP !!!
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Date: 9 Jan 86 18:34:22 GMT
To:       info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA

I am expiriencing trouble with the DRI linker, link. I have converted
my 'C' librarys over to the DRI library format and have been using the
Programers Utilies for quit some time succesfully with the Aztec 'C'
compiler. I have a preprocessor that converts the Aztec assembly output
to a format compatable with rmac.

The problem I am expirencing is trying to produce romable code. When
I try to link my program with my library with out redefining the 
load address, program (code) segment base, data segment base, everthing
works just fine as you would expect. When I try to specify a program
base below 0100H with a load address of 0100H, the linker writes the
whole file out as zeros. real nice huh. I did quit a bit of expermenting
with with diffferent load address and program base address, switching
the order of the parameters in the command line and have come to the
conclution that the linker does not work correctly with program address
addresses below 0100H. If a specify a load address and a program base 
of 0100H (which is the defualt) it creates the .com file OK, but it
forgets to add the jump intruction to the entry point in the code.
If I specify a load address of 0100H and program base of 0103H it
puts the jump intrunction in just fine. 

I was realy disappointed when I found that the linker would'nt ouput
a .hex file ( I need this to dowload to a Data I/O), but I was able to
get a hold of the public domain file comhex.com which solved that problem
(kinda). I would generate a the code to start at 0100H and enter a 
jump to 0100H myself but I will need to add interrupt routines later
and the jump table would also have to be entered by hand. This is
unexecptable. I would also require out how to tell the Data I/O 
to offset the code by 0100H bytes. 

Does anybody out there in netland know if Im doing sothing wrong (I seriously
doubt it), or of linker that works with the DRI .irl files (library file)
and with the microsoft .rel files.

Any help with this matter would be greatly appriciated.


Kevin Flory @ Tolerant Systems, San Jose 

I may be reached by email, or mail at:

82 E Daggett Drive
San Jose, CA, 95134

(408) 946-5667

or 

530 Scottsville Court
San Jose, CA 95133

(408) 272-1818

Thanks In Advance.
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Subject: wanted: info on C compilers for CPM
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Date: 9 Jan 86 21:46:33 GMT
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I need to write some software for an Amdahl X.25 Network Administrator
(4404E), which is an 8088-based micro used to control Amdahl PADs in an
X.25 network.  The micro runs CPM, and while we do have a Pascal compiler
available, I'd rather code in C.  

I've never shopped for a C compiler, and have only a vague idea of the
C compilers available that will run on CPM.  I'd certainly appreciate any
advice and information from anyone who has had experience with C compilers 
on a CPM system.

Rick Janka
AT&T Information Systems
(ihnp4,allegra,akgua)!abcom!cnmsrkj
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From: Ron Bremer <ronb%tekred.uucp@BRL.ARPA>
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Subject: Wanted: CP/M-86 Data Base Program
Message-ID: <430@tekred.UUCP>
Date: 8 Jan 86 21:03:22 GMT
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I am looking for a "good" database program to run on my Televideo 1603
under CP/M-86.  Does anyone know of a good program at a reasonable price?
Will any CP/M-86 program run on my machine or does it have to be adapted
for the Televideo 1603?

More questions:

Is there a good book about the internals of CP/M-86?  System calls and
such.

Is there a source of CP/M-86 program titles and a brief discussion of
their function, cost, publisher, etc?

What are other people doing that have CP/M-86 machines?  Write their own
software?  Don't use their system?  Or am I all alone?

Thanks for any help.

Ron Bremer
Tektronix, Inc.
CNA Division
Redmond, Oregon

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Subject: NULU 15 or 16
Cc: sdcsvax!NOLAND@USC-ISI.ARPA, crash!kevinb@sdcsvax.ARPA

Some time ago Steve Noland wrote about contacting the author of NULU, Martin 
Murray, regarding a NULU 15 bug regarding drives with differing allocation
sizes, and that corrections are being made. Is there a new NULU out? If so,
please contact me using mail at the address below, as I am interested in
putting the new version out on our local BBS. We have had quite a few comments
made, and I am desirous of keeping it as up to date as possible.

		Thanks,
                    Kevin Belles

Kevin J. Belles - UUCP {sdcsvax,ihnp4!gould9,noscvax,cbosgd}!crash!kevinb
~~~~~ ~~ ~~~~~~ - ARPA crash!kevinb@{ucsd,nosc}.ARPA

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From: Herb Lin <LIN@mit-mc.ARPA>
Subject:  combination LU, SQ/USQ, DIR
To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
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is there a program that will archive files as LU does, SQ or USQ as
files go in and out, enable me to view SQeezed files, and maybe even
from CP/M level get a directory listing of an .LBR file?

I seem to recall there was something similar to this...

thanks.

Herb

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Subject: combination LU, SQ/USQ, DIR equals NULU ...but...

>is there a program that will archive files as LU does, SQ or USQ
>as files go in and out, enable me to view SQeezed files, and
>maybe even from CP/M level get a directory listing of an .LBR
>file?

Yes, it's NULU.  Only trouble is that NULU has a serious bug and most
RCPM SysOps have deleted it from their systems.  The author knows
about the bug and is working on a fix which, it is said, will be
available in about two weeks.

It turns out that NULU was struck by the infamous BDOS function 37
bug.  More details later.

--Keith
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Subject: Bye5 and MBBS and ZCPR3
To:   info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA

Using ZCPR3, Bye5, and MBBS I get the message from Login . that

Illegal function call at address 081c

Running on apple IIe microsoft CPM.   Bye seems to work OK, MBBS is
fine if I do not run from BYE.  any hints?

Also - If anyone can direct me to the patch that allows ZCPR3 on 60k CPM
for the apple I would appreciate it.

The overlay in the BYE5 directory for apple microsoft AP12 forgot
about the 2000H offset due to microsoft cpm.  If anyone wants
the corrected one I will upload.

Sincerely,
Allan
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>       From: "Phil Dimond, ms:SNA/CSS Engineering,Sydney,Aust." <dimond%aussi
>       Subject: Apple CP/M disk formatter help required.
>       Date: 8 Jan 86 01:57:20 GMT
>
>       To:       info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
>
>       Hello:
>
>       I am currently attempting to modify Apple CP/M for 40 track
>       drive operation. I have done this successfully, but to finalise
>       the operation, I need some software. 
>                                       ...
>                                       ...
>
>       Thanks,
>       Phil Dimond. 
>       ...decvax!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-aussie!dimond

Phil - tell us more !  What exactly did you do to add the support ?!
Thanks.

Richard
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Subject: Re: wanted: info on C compilers for CPM
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From: Bruce Eckel <morgan%fluke.uucp@BRL.ARPA>


I have used several C compilers on CP/M and have tried most of the
things you refer to.  All of them produce "com"able code, if you mean
produces a .com file.  I also think all of them require you to go through
and assembler, linker and loader to accomplish this.  If you mean "rom"able,
I know Aztec does it and I think the others will too if you put in the right
ORG statements or whatnot.  There is usually a way even if they didn't design
it in.

1) Aztec.  Expensive at $200, but K&R complete, or more so than most.  Good
library.  Includes its own assembler, linker and librarian.  Slow as mollasses.
I use it because I am familiar with it and didn't want to mess with the
idiosyncrasies of the others (at the time).  No bit fields or preprocessor
macros, but it seems NOBODY has those.  The manual is geared after UNIX (not
a terribly good precedent but OK) which I am sure they developed the language
on.  One of the big plusses about this system is its transportability -- Aztec
makes (virtually) identical compilers for essentially every processor and
operating system.  They even make cross-compilers so you can (for example)
develop on cp/m and run on apple.

2) BDS .  A friend swears by it and it seems fast, efficient and correct.
That is, the compiler seems fast.  I don't know that much about the code
efficiency but he says it is efficient.  $150.  The manual is very good.
No library is as complete as Aztecs, but you can always add your own
library modules to any of these.  BDS was really the CPM C standard
for quite a while, before:

3) C/80 .  for 50$ (might be 60 now) and 20 extra for floating point, the real
bargain in C compilers.  I used an early version of this and didn't like it
because they didn't seem to conform to K&R (at least not the library functions)
and as I was struggling to *learn* the language in the first place, I didn't
want to mess with language variants.  Now, however, it seems to have been
cleaned up significantly.  People seem to love it only second to Turbo pascal,
and amazing things have been written with it.  The people at Software
Toolworks (makers of C/80) have written a lot of stuff with it themselves,
notably MyCalc (best spreadsheet for cpm I have seen; I am told supercalc does
sorts better, but I just like the way MyCalc works.  Amazing that visicalc
made any money at all, considering how limited it was) and Mychess.  Lots of
other people use C/80.  Real nice to have floating point; I think it
comes with Aztec but you might have to pay extra for it.  C/80 is probably
your best bet (at least to get started).

4) Q/C.  The only thing I can say about this is it comes with source code,
written in C.  I don't know how it runs since I've never used it, but if 
you want to know how a compiler is written, this would probably be $95
well spent.  Chances are it is real slow (whereas BDS and C/80 are
written, I believe, in assembly).

What do I prefer?  Well, they all do so many disk accesses, and of
course going in and out of the editor (wordstar) is incredibly time
consuming.  I get very frustrated and am thinking of putting a RAM disk
on my Kaypro with a megabyte (~$450) to speed up *everything*.  But it seems
such a waste for most tasks, which are fast.  I keep hearing rumors about:

5) Turbo C.  Vaporware at the moment, but if it is anything like Turbo P,
it will be worth waiting for.  They may have put all their efforts 
into Modula-2, but we can hope.  I would by Turbo C in a second, and
be off and running.  Failing that, I may just give up the wait and
buy Turbo Pascal.

			Bruce Eckel <morgan>
			uw-beaver!fluke!morgan


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From: Hubert Daugherty <hd@rice.ARPA>
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Subject: Re:  Wanted: CP/M-86 Data Base Program

The Compupro Dealer in Houston, Informa Inc., has extensive experience in
CP/M86.  They use dBase II for database needs in house but also sell
Q-PRO-4 for CP/M86.  They have a slick version of the Palentier Word Processor
for CP/M86.  I don't have their number here but information has it.

As to your compatability worry, dBase II only needs to know about your 
screen codes.

disclaimer: I speak for myself, I represent myself, and I stand by what I say.

Hubert Daugherty
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Subject: Re: wanted: info on C compilers for CPM
Date: 13 Jan 86 20:22:33 EST (Mon)
From: "James R. Van Zandt" <jrv@MITRE-BEDFORD.ARPA>

Here's another C compiler for CP/M.  It's the Small-C compiler which
appeared in Dr.  Dobbs #45 (May 1980), but modified by me to include
floating point.  The compiler requires a Z-80 processor and produces
Z-80 assembly language output.  There's a companion assembler and
linker.  You can get the whole package, including source code in C for
the compiler, as volume 156 from:

	C user's Group
	Box 97
	McPherson KS 67460
	(314) 241-1065

They charge $8 per volume and offer nearly any format.  If you want a
more detailed description, you can look at the September 1985 issue
of their newsletter.

I believe it's also available as SIG/M volume 224.

Credits: Small-C was written by Ron Cain.  The floating point routines
themselves were written by Niel Colvin.  The assembler and linker are
by Bruce Mallett.

(As you can tell, the C User's Group is not-for-profit.  I don't make
any money off this, either.) (I'm not maintaining this code, either. 
I've now moved on to the 16 bit world.)
                                        - Jim Van Zandt
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From: "Ralph W. Hyre Jr." <Ralph.Hyre@cmu-cs-c.ARPA>
Subject: Need help installing bye-type program for Apple-Cat & PCPI
To: info-apple@BRL.ARPA, info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA, info-modem-request@SIMTEL20.ARPA
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I'm not having much luck trying to get MBBS or BYE3 to work with
my system.  Here's my configuration:

64K Apple ][+ with Apple-Cat modem in slot 2, with 212 card in slot 5
PCPI AppliCard w/ CP/M 2.2 (Coprocessor card - not Microsoft compatible)

If someone has installed a working MBYE or BYE3 for this configuration,
please get in touch with me.  (This is a rare enough configuration that
there probably aren't many people that have installed for it.)
The best form of help would be a source to a working version of MBYE
or BYE3 for my configuration, next best would be an exhaustive
description of how to set the equates (especially system dependent ones
like BYELOW and disk/user equates  (I'd like to put everything on a0: for
starters)  (I'm not running ZCPR3, but I can try it if its necessary...)

					- Ralph
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Set the filter off in MEX with the command: STAT FILTER OFF
All control codes should then be allowed to pass over to your system.
The filter mode is used for static-filled lines (usually over long
distance), but can not be used when using an editor or the like
online.
 
--Arun Baheti
  arpa: NBaheti.es@Xerox
  uucp: ...litvax!flkvax!trwrb!group3!arun
  arpa: Bug%Mit-OZ@Mit-MC [PLEASE reply to Xerox if possible!]
  RCPM: CP/M Connection @ 213-530-0670 [24hrs; 300/1200/2400]
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Subject: Info on IMSAI/OMNI/CalComp stuff sought
Cc: sdcsvax!Info-CPM@AMSAA.ARPA, sdcsvax!Chapman.ES@XEROX.ARPA, 
    gould9!ihnp4!watmath!watcgl!jchapman@sdcsvax.ARPA, 
    crash!kevinb@sdcsvax.ARPA

  I am looking for information regarding the Science Dynamics Corporation OMNI 
5000A computer.  This unit was made by IMSAI,  with IMSAI components,  but was 
marketed by SDC, a division of McDonnell Douglas. I have spoken to the head of 
the technical department there,  Ralph Napolillo, and although they as near as 
I can tell still support them, he claims not to have any information on hand. 
  I  am specifically looking for information on the floppy disk drive package, 
with  2 boards by IMSAI called the FIB and the IFM,  which talk over a  25-pin 
ribbon cable to 2 CalComp 141M disk drives.  The FDC boardset is apparently  a 
DMA-type device,  but we hve not to this date figured out quite *how* to write 
a  CP/M or MP/M BIOS for the above.  Mr.  Napolillo claimed that there was  an 
MP/M  "lying  around somewhere",  but has been unable to provide  any  further 
help,  even to the address of either IMS Associates or CalComp. The system was 
apparently  originally intended as sort of a batch multip;exing type unit  for 
up  to 8 terminals in it's original configuration,  with a modem and a console 
attached  also.   We  would  like to convert these into either  CP/M  or  MP/M 
machines  for club usage,  and so am looking for further info of any kind  for 
our S-100 club here in San Diego. The systems are as follows:

o IMSAI PCS 80/10 cabinet containing the following cards:

     o IMSAI CPA frontpanel
     o IMSAI MPU-A 8080 CPU
     o IMSAI PIC-8 interrupt controller
     o 3) IMSAI 16K RAM boards
     o Microsystems ROM board with a OMNI Problem Executive monitor burned  on 
       it's PROMs-we've decoded it and will probably figure out it's functions 
       in a week or three.
     o 5) IMSAI SIO-2 serial port boards
     o IMSAI FIB  \
                   > these boards hook up, and has it's own 8080 + 2k ROM
     o IMSAI IFM  /

o IMSAI peripheral cabinet containing the following:

     o 2) Calcomp 141M 8" SS disk drives w/ power supplies attached,  some of 
       the jumpers for the drives being on the supplies (?).
     o  a  so-far unnamed board that piggybacks and displays signals  for  the 
        drives.  As  far as we can tell,  the presence or lack of  this  board 
        makes no operational difference.

Would  anyone  having information please post information or send mail to  the 
address  below - the members are willing to *pay* for a reasonable copy  of  a 
working BIOS for any kind of CP/M or MP/M for this system.

               Thanks in advance,

Kevin Belles - UUCP {sdcsvax,ihnp4!gould9,noscvax,cbosgd}!crash!kevinb
~~~~~ ~~~~~~ - ARPA crash!kevinb@{nosc,ucsd}

Disclaimer: Anything within, unless directly attributed is my opinion, 
and does not reflect that of my place of employment. KjB

If anybody's interested in one, there's more where the original 7 came
from . . . . KjB

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Subject: MEX overlay for CCS 2718 S-100 board

ommendations for an overlay for th CCS 2718 S-100 2 ser 2 par 
I/O board? It uses a 8251, but is there any overlay best suited to alter for 
this board?
		Please reply to - 

Kevin J. Belles - UUCP {sdcsvax,ihnp4!gould9,noscvax,cbosgd}!crash!kevinb
~~~~~ ~~ ~~~~~~ - ARPA crash!kevinb@{ucsd,nosc}.ARPA

		Thanks. KjB

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To: sdcsvax!Info-CPM@AMSAA.ARPA
Subject: Need Info re banked BIOSes, etc.
Cc: seismo!mcvax!ukc!stc!dbmk1@sdcsvax.ARPA, sdcsvax!ABC.COR@OFFICE-1.ARPA, 
    crash!kevinb@sdcsvax.ARPA

How are you managing your banked ability? I am working on getting my aged IMSAI 
8080 working on a banked configuration, and am looking into ways of doing same.
Is banking only usable through CP/M +, or can you do it through CP/M 2.2, also?
  Derek at seismo!mcvax!ukc!stc!dbmk1 asked something of the same kind, even to
asking how possible it would be to get a banked BIOS massageable to another
machine, and I saw no answer. Consumed by curiousity by the same question, I
wondered the same thing. Is there a BIOS possibly look-at-able, or is it a
matter of machine specifics?

                        Sincerely,
                           Kevin Belles

Kevin J. Belles - UUCP {sdcsvax,ihnp4!gould9,noscvax,cbosgd}!crash!kevinb
~~~~~ ~~ ~~~~~~ - ARPA crash!kevinb@{ucsd,nosc}.ARPA


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     Could the person who compiled the list of programming languages
now being taught in college please repost the message to me?

Thanks,
Ralph

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Subject: 40 track drives on Apple CP/M
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Hi:
	From the responses I have gratefully received from the net, I have
the essential data for modifying Apple CP/M to drive 40 tracks on Apple
drives. I will summarise here. If anyone desires further information, please
do not hesitate to contact me by mail.
	
	Firstly, it is very important to use late model drives. Apple has
advised me that any drives sold since the IIe was released should be capable
of 40 track operation. Any Far-East Apple compatible drives should also
be fine. The problem with old drives is that they cannot step to 40 tracks.
	Now, the only modification that is required is to alter the drive
characteristics contained in the BDOS. These characteristics are held in
the Disk Parameter Block, whose initial address can be found by BDOS function
31. To find this address, enter DDT, and run the following program:

		0100 MVI C,1F	;Load C for function 31.
		0102 CALL 5	;Execute the function.
		0105 RES 7	;On completion, re-enter DDT.

	Now, if the CPU registers are examined, the data in the HL register
should contain the address of the first block of the DPB for the current
default drive. In my 60K Softcard II CP/M the address is FA73 hex for drive
A: .
	Offset five bytes from this are two bytes called the DSM parameter.
These bytes, stored with the low order byte first, give the block number
of the highest block on the disk. In the case of Apple CP/M, there are four
blocks per track, thus for a 35 track drive the highest block number will
be 139 (as the blocks are numbered from zero). We actually have 40 tracks,
so we wish to store 9F hex in this parameter.
	The easy way to do this is to execute the following program. It
will find the DPB for the current default drive, and automatically alter
it's value. The easy way to ensure the disk change is to autorun this 
program on disk boot.


;Modify the DPB to set the current default drive to 40 tracks.
;Written in 8080 assembler for the DR assm assembler.
;
	ORG	0100H 	;Start of Transient Program Area.
;
START:	MVI	C,01FH	;Prepare to call BDOS function 31.
	CALL	5	;Execute the function.
	LXI	D,05H	;Load the parameter offset.
	DAD	D	;Add the offset to the DPB address.
	MVI	B,09FH	;Load the new parameter value.
	MOV	M,B	;Update the DPB.
	RET		;Return to CP/M.
;
	
	A better way is to use one of the multitude of disk editing utilities
that are available in the public domain for CP/M. Edit the system tracks
until you find a copy of the DPB that you see in memory, modify it accordingly,
and you have altered it for good.
	It is at this point that a problem crops up - there is no easily
accessible formatting program available for the Apple CP/M environment that
will format the 40 tracks, at least that I know of.
	Does anyone have one, or even the source to one of uSoft's formatting
programs, or even an idea of how to modify them? It could not be that hard.

	This information was compiled with the help of some reference texts
and several net persons (they know who they are - let me thank them ). A
good reference text is:

		"Mastering CP/M", by Alan R Miller, pub: SYBEX Inc, 1983


	
                                                                 
"	All opinions expressed herein are those of myself only, and not
necessarily those of any other persons, or of any organisation, or of the
cat which lives in our flats."

						Phil Dimond,
			
		...decvax!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-aussie!dimond

"When all else fails take the engineering approach: Hit it with a hammer."
15-Jan-86 05:35:24-MST,949;000000000000
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From: Charlie Strom <CSTROM@SIMTEL20.ARPA>
To:   crash!kevinb@sdcsvax.ARPA
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Subject: Info on IMSAI/OMNI/CalComp stuff sought
In-reply-to: Msg of 14 Jan 1986  02:31-MST from crash!kevinb at sdcsvax.ARPA

Try Fulcrum Computer Products - they advertise in Byte. Fulcrum is run
by one or more ex-Imsai people, and I am pretty sure they have Imsai
BIOS materiial lying around. Another spin-off was Fischer-Freitas, but
I am not sure if they are still in business. Fulcrum advertises in
Byte or Micro/Systems Journal and should be easy to locate.
By the way, Imsai was a different firm from IMS. I believe the latter
is still alive.
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From: Kushall.henr@XEROX.ARPA
Subject: Re: 40 track drives on Apple CP/M
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To: "Phil Dimond, ms:SNA/CSS Engineering,Sydney,Aust." <dimond%aussie.dec@BRL.ARPA>
cc: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
Message-ID: <860115-050414-4207@Xerox>

Many of the early micro computer 5.25 inch floppy disk systems were
based on the Shugart SA400 "mini floppy" drive. (For a while they were
the only maker ie 1975) This was the original 5.25 inch drive. The SA400
could only have a maximum of 35 physical tracks. If you attempt to step
to a track >34 the CAM follower would lift out of the grove.

Later Shugart updated the drive design to 40 tracks, and 40 tracks has
been standard on 5.25 inch drives for quite a while now. I don't know of
any other companies that make 35 track drives. Shugart drives labled
SA400 are 35 track drives, drives labled SA400L are 40 track drives.
Also some early Shugart SA400's were single density. (I belive before
1977) The only way to tell these is by the serial numbers.

Ed Kushall

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From: waldron.Wbst@XEROX.ARPA
Subject: 8 bit data in Mex update
To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
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>Does anyone know of a way to patch Mex to allow 8 bit data to be passed
to the >terminal.  I would like to have the remote host send graphics
characters to the >screen but Mex seems to AND off the 8th bit.  Turning
on DEBUG shows that valid 8 >bit graphics characters are being sent but
in normal terminal mode they get >stripped.

>Thanks,

>Brian 

To all those who responded, thank you.  To all those who mentioned
STAT FILTER OFF, I have been running this way since day ONE.  STAT
FILTER OFF controls the passage of data values from 0 to 1F hex. I
have no problem with those.  Values from 80 to FF hex are the
problem.  They come through with the 8th bit reset.  In other words,
ANDed with 7F hex.  I have comfirmed, using a very simple dumb terminal
program, that neither BDOS nor BIOS interferes with 8Bit (0 - FF hex)
data.   There are  20 some AND 7F instructions in Mex.  Without
source it's pot luck but I will try the hard way to determine which
AND 7F is the culprit.

Thanks again to all who responded.  I will post results when they are
available.

Brian 
Waldron.wbst@Xerox.arpa
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To:       info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
Subject:  CPT port addresses

	
	Fellow CP/M'ers ,

		HELP!!!! I need to know the addresses for the ports on a
	CPT which runs CP/M 2.2 . Otherwise, could someone point me to 
	the modem program overlay that I could add to MODEM7, and which
	would have the ports addressed? 
		CPT is all I have on the make of the terminal. It is made
	by CPT Corporation which has world headquarters at Minneapolis. I've
	just been through the manual we received with it and, as usual, the
	ports are not addressed, worse they're not even mentioned that I
	could find.
		Please help, if you can.   Thanks.
					Jack H. Smith

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Subject:  Need info fast on Diablo, NEC, and other heavy-duty LQ printers

Howdy, fellow netlandians.  I need some quick feedback from the field on
the performance (speed- and print-quality-wise), *reliability*, and
expected maintenance costs for *heavy-duty* letter quality printers, the
kind you would have *no* qualms about using to handle the printing of
many thousands of letters *each week*.  My off-the-cuff analysis says
that ink-jet technology is out (the print image isn't high enough quality),
but if somebody knows something I don't, I'd still like to hear about it.
Laser technology is still in the running, but I have to have print quality
equal to the finest daisy wheel printers.  At the moment, daisy wheel
technology is at the head of my list.  I need at least 80 cps out of a daisy
wheel, with a print head and (probably metal) wheel that can really "go the
distance" in terms of not breaking down or just being plain worn out.  Tractor
feed is almost a must (note "almost" -- that's not "absolute").  (Are there
any laser printers yet that handle a tractor feed?)

The local ComputerLand has a 90cps daisy wheel made by a company called
Primage.  With sheet feeder and tractor it's $2200.  Based on the demo,
(i.e., looking at the construction, listening to it print, "gut feelings"),
I'm not sure it can handle the load.  Does anyone know anything about this
model?  (The salesman says we'd have to replace the print head for $20 after
every 10,000 letters, probably, not to mention the plastic print wheels.)

So if you've got personal experience (or know someone with personal
experience) with a *high-speed*, *heavy-duty*, letter-quality printer, now
is the time to step forward and plug it.  (I'm willing to spend up to $5,000.)
I really need this info, and you'd have my undying gratitude for replying
(isn't that a great incentive?).  Thanks in advance...

                                        -- Larry Afrin
                                           Dept. of Computer Science
                                           Clemson University

================================
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From:  Boebert@HI-MULTICS.ARPA
Subject:  Formatting for 40 tracks
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There exist several disassembly listings of Apple DOS 3.3; one of which
was distributed on disk by the people who produced the Beneath Apple DOS
book.  It should be pretty easy to modify the INIT routine to count past
35 (you will also have to change the sector skewing table to the CPM
standard -- this is described in Beneath Apple DOS).

Earl (Boebert @ HI-Multics)
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Subject: Altair S-100 HELP
To: info-micro@BRL-TGR.ARPA, info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
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Message-ID: <860115-172459-4895@Xerox>

I am looking for some information on the Altair S-100 Bus
machine with a Compu-Pro Dual processor board with 8085/8088
processors. I am running CP/M (2.2 I think) in the 8085 mode
which it defaults to.  The 8088 processor, according to the
manual, is sleeping and it doesn't exactly tell how to "wake"
it up.  The manual tells me how to create a file called
tkfxboot.com to be run in 8085 mode to awake the 8088 and boot
an apropriate DOS (ie. my CP/M 86), but it doesn't seem to work.  
If anyone has any advice on either what to do, who to talk to,
or where to look for the answer to this problem I would greatly
appreciate it.  

I am confident that I will eventually find the
answer, so I am also looking for some inexpensive S-100 bus
equipment, in particular a hard drive and more memory (I
currently only have 64k and 4 8" DD drives).

This system was donated to my school (Torrance High,2200
Carson St, Torrance, CA 90501) so if anyone would like to call
in any help (or possibly donate some more equipment) my number
is (213)533-1123; I am only at this number from 2:00pm to 3:00
PDT.

Steven Myers
-------------------------cut here

	I am posting this for a friend at my highschool, and if
you can't call him there then feel free to send me the message and
I will forward all replies to him. Thanks.
 
--Arun Baheti
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  arpa: Bug%Mit-OZ@Mit-MC [PLEASE reply to Xerox if possible!]
  RCPM: CP/M Connection @ 213-530-0670 [24hrs; 300/1200/2400]
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> Thank you for all the help with getting MEX to acknowledge cursor motion.
> However, under my Montezuma Micro CP/M, all the terminal programs I have
> tried have a high amount of data loss.  I am continually losing bytes and
> have trouble with cursor motion programs because they will often just
> become so much gobbledeygook(sp?) when it loses the escape or the = or
> one of the two following characters for cursor positioning.  Furthermore,
> it sometimes crashes so that it will do something involving 7s, 's, and
> a much smaller screen under something like vi.  Other times it will completely
> forget cursor motion works at all.  However, this happens after I've been
> in the terminal program for a while.  Does anyone have any idea how to correct
> this?  The CP/M is running on a TRS-80 Model 4P and I go 1200BPS.
> 							Carl Greenberg

Carl, I have been working on a VT100 emulator for my RS model 4p. Presently
the assembly source code (Z-80) is 46k and when assembled handles all of the
VT100 escape sequences. I have had moderate success with most of the editors
available on the Vax systems here at work. You are welcome to a copy of the
assembled code to try out. Please leave a note (number) and we will get
together and xfer the files. For others that might be interested this code
applies to memory mapped video systems only. Terminals are not supported.
9600 baud is not a problem as the input is buffered during screen operations.
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Subject:  CPT ports


	ERIC,

		It was very kind of you to respond to my querry regarding
	CPT port addresses.
		The CPT is the computer, terminal, & word processor which
	is running CP/M 2.2 . And, yes I'm familiar with the archives at
	simtel20. It's just that they've changed and re-arranged the 
	archives so much since the last time I accessed them that now I'm
	not sure I'd know how to get what I'm after. (That's why I asked
	for pointers to the modem overlay files ////addresses////.)
		
		Also, as long as I'm here, I may as well see if anyone
	knows the port addresses to the DEC Rainbow running CP/M 2.2.
	Yes, the DEC Rainbow is the terminal, computer, & word processor,
 	and DEC stands for Digital Equipment Corporation (I think).
		
		Please respond to me, not the net.	
					Thanks: Jack H. Smith

					JHSMITH@CRDC.ARPA

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Subject: Re: Need info fast on Diablo, NEC, and other heavy-duty LQ printers
In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 13 Jan 86 21:31 EST.
Date: 16 Jan 86 08:54:24 EST (Thu)
From: Jeff Edelheit <edelheit@MITRE.ARPA>

Larry - While none of the lasers I know of support a tractor, I would recommend
any of the Canon engine based machines.  If you really want typeset quality,
then look into Imagen.  Imagen provides a preprocessor to the laser engine.  
The bottom of the line uses the Canon engine, but if you need higher speeds,
then you can move up to one of their Xerox engines.  (We have an Imagen 8/300;
the preprocessor + the Canon engine.  It's really nice.  It also supports
either a serial, parallel or Ethernet interface.)

I also understand that QMS has some nice lasers.

With the kind of output you are talking about, I am not sure that any daisy
type machine will either hold up or produce the amount of output your
talking about.  Also, the general rule "the higher the speed, the higher
the noise" probably applies to the impact printers.  The noisyest thing on
the Canon is the clicking as it pulls the paper thru.

Let me know what you find/decide.

Regards,
Jeff Edelheit
(edelheit@mitre.arpa)

Usual disclaimers apply.
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I have a Televideo 920C terminal in excellent working condition which I
would be willing to donate to a legitimate non-profit organization.  The
terminal is about 4 years old, has one extra page of memory, and includes
the original instruction manual.

I have had no luck in selling the terminal through local ads, and hence
am now looking for a tax deduction (for 1986, of course).  Whoever wants
it can have it.  I will NOT arrange for or pay for shipping/delivery.
All I ask of the recipient in return is a letter or receipt on the
organization's letterhead.  The terminal is located in Long Beach (CA).

Message me directly if interested,
Bud Huber
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    From: Herb Lin <LIN@mit-mc.ARPA>
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    is there a program that will archive files as LU does, SQ or USQ as
    files go in and out, enable me to view SQeezed files, and maybe even
    from CP/M level get a directory listing of an .LBR file?
    
    I seem to recall there was something similar to this...
    
    thanks.
    
    Herb
    
    
	      --------------------
		
Herb,

Try LSWEEP, which is in the SIMTEL20 archives with LU.

                                ...Dick Stanley
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From: "Robert L. Plouffe" <PLOUFF@MIT-MC.ARPA>
Subject: Telebit Modem
To: INFO-CPM@MIT-MC.ARPA, INFO-MICRO@MIT-MC.ARPA, INFO-MODEM@MIT-MC.ARPA, 
    INFO-MODEM7@MIT-MC.ARPA
Message-ID: <[MC.LCS.MIT.EDU].786579.860117.PLOUFF>

      There have been a few messages to the nets regarding the
Telebit modem marketed by DCA as FASTLINKPC and manufactured
by Telebit. It has its own protocol and is sold with Crosstalk-Fast
which I understand is an adaptation of Crosstalk xvi by Micro-Stuf.
It is said to be useable at average rates of 10kbps on dial up
lines and completely adaptive to line conditions.

      I am doing a survey of that modem and would appreciate any
opinions, tests, facts, etc regarding it.  If there is sufficient
interest, I will post the results to the net.  Please respond
directly to me since I am not on all of the mailing lists to
which this is addressed. 

17-Jan-86 01:21:42-MST,1336;000000000000
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From: John Blalock <jb%terak.uucp@BRL.ARPA>
Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm
Subject: Re: 8 bit data in Mex
Message-ID: <983@terak.UUCP>
Date: 13 Jan 86 22:35:03 GMT
To:       info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA

> Does anyone know of a way to patch Mex to allow 8 bit data to be passed
> to the terminal.  I would like to have the remote host send graphics
> characters to the screen but Mex seems to AND off the 8th bit.  Turning
> on DEBUG shows that valid 8 bit graphics characters are being sent but
> in normal terminal mode they get stripped.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Brian 
> Waldron.wbst@Xerox.arpa

Note that not all control key sequences get passed thru by MEX either - it's not
just an eighth-bit problem.  I also would like a patch so that I don't have
to exit MEX to run vi remotely. (or any program with escape sequences/cursor
addressing)

John Blalock, W7AAY

uucp:	 ...{noao,decvax,savax,ihnp4,seismo}!terak!jb
phone:	 (602) 998-4800
us mail: CalComp Display Products Division (formerly Terak Corporation)
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Subject:   USR Courier 2400
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I previously commented on problems with the Courier 2400 modems
communicating with our Racal-Vadic 4401 modems.  After some finger
pointing the problem has been resolved by new firmware in the Courier
2400.  My thanks to the technical support staff at U.S.Robotics and
Racal-Vadic.

After using a Courier 2400 at home for several days I'm very happy
with it.  It has significantly fewer problems with line noise than a
Racal-Vadic 2400PA.

Jeffrey C Honig
Senior Systems Programer
Clarkson University
17-Jan-86 09:35:30-MST,4052;000000000000
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From: Bruce Eckel <morgan%fluke.uucp@BRL.ARPA>
Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm
Subject: Re: Data loss on terminal programs
Message-ID: <1083@vax2.fluke.UUCP>
Date: 16 Jan 86 23:25:57 GMT
To:       info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA

In article <109@phred.UUCP> mattw@phred.UUCP (Matt Wing) writes:
>> Thank you for all the help with getting MEX to acknowledge cursor motion.
>> However, under my Montezuma Micro CP/M, all the terminal programs I have
>> tried have a high amount of data loss.  I am continually losing bytes and
>> have trouble with cursor motion programs because they will often just
>> become so much gobbledeygook(sp?) when it loses the escape or the = or
>> one of the two following characters for cursor positioning.  Furthermore,
>> it sometimes crashes so that it will do something involving 7s, 's, and
>> a much smaller screen under something like vi.  Other times it will completely
>> forget cursor motion works at all.  However, this happens after I've been
>> in the terminal program for a while.  Does anyone have any idea how to correct
>> this?  The CP/M is running on a TRS-80 Model 4P and I go 1200BPS.
>> 							Carl Greenberg
>
>Carl, I have been working on a VT100 emulator for my RS model 4p. Presently
>the assembly source code (Z-80) is 46k and when assembled handles all of the
>VT100 escape sequences. I have had moderate success with most of the editors
>available on the Vax systems here at work. You are welcome to a copy of the
>assembled code to try out. Please leave a note (number) and we will get
>together and xfer the files. For others that might be interested this code
>applies to memory mapped video systems only. Terminals are not supported.
>9600 baud is not a problem as the input is buffered during screen operations.

The kaypro (I have a 2x) has this problem also.  Apparently the kaypro
ROM, which performs the terminal functions, repositions the cursor
(which is controlled by the 6845) after every function, and this is
purported to slow the screen down.  Micro Cornucopia has rewritten the
rom for the kaypro to prevent characters from being dropped,
apparently by NOT repositioning the cursor until after all the
characters have been sent (note that although the position where the
characters are to be sent -- which has nothing to do with the cursor
position -- is *apparently* programmed through the 6845 using
registers 18 and 19, there are no registers 18 and 19 on the 6845;
thus the custom chip from kaypro must be listening to writes to these
6845 registers, and must respond accordingly.  Any hints from kaypro
hardware people?).

I have avoided buying the rom and have tried to cope with the problem
by padding the termcap on the vax.  I still seem to run into problems
with gnuemacs when it has 2 windows open and tries to use the
delete-line and insert-line functions (which *really* speed things up
when you are scrolling because then you don't have to do screen
rewrites every time).  

I am thinking of trying to write some sort of fix or terminal emulator
for the kaypro, but I am not sure if this will help because
insert-line and delete-line may require the same amount of time anyway
because of the hardware.  The best way to handle it might be to buffer
the input and "handshake" it into the video, padding timing according
to what screen function is being used (admittedly, this is what the
termcap is supposed to do, but it seems to be failing).  This solution
could be the simplest (in terms of programming) thing to do.

	Bruce Eckel <morgan>
	ARPA: fluke!morgan@uw-beaver
	UUCP: {uw-beaver, sun, allegra, sb6, lbl-csam}!fluke!morgan
-- 
	Bruce Eckel <morgan>
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	UUCP: {uw-beaver, sun, allegra, sb6, lbl-csam}!fluke!morgan
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Date: 17 Jan 86 09:58:29 PST (Friday)
Subject: Re: 8 bit data in Mex
From: Burton.osbunorth@xerox.ARPA
To: jb%terak.uucp@BRL.ARPA
cc: "Philip M. Burton.osbunorth"@xerox.ARPA, info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
In-Reply-to: jb%terak.uucp%BRL:ARPA:Xerox's message of 17-January-86
 (Friday) 1:19:20 PST -
Reply-to: burton.osbunorth@xerox.ARPA
Message-ID: <860117-112827-2552@Xerox>

Mex has a related 8 bit problem.

If I am connected to a 7 data bit, even parity host, such as Xerox's own
PARCVAX, I cannot use XMODEM transfers unless I manually reset MEX to 8
bits, no parity.  I have this problem in the PC version of MEX.  I
suspect, but don't know for sure, if this limitation is also present in
CP/M MEX.  

This one deserves a patch.  (Editorial:  That's the trouble with
software provided without source code distribution.)


On a related matter, please note that my net address and that of other
Xeroids has been changed from:

Name.registry@Xerox.ARPA

to:

Name.registry@Xerox.COM  


Phil Burton
Xerox Corp.
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From: Ron Fowler <RFOWLER@SIMTEL20.ARPA>
Subject: 8 bits with MEX and MEX-PC
To: info-cpm@SIMTEL20.ARPA, info-ibmpc@USC-ISIB.ARPA
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In response to the recent inquiries regarding 8th-bit display using MEX,
here is a patch and some supplementary information:

For CP/M MEX version 1.14, do "POKE $4822 $0 $0" ... this will delete the code
that zeroes the 8th bit.

For the commercial versions (both CP/M and MSDOS), a patch is impractical,
since there have been several major releases of the program, and an equal
number of minor releases.  As an alternative, we're adding a fixed-position
patch point in all versions, effective with release 1.61, to be released
18 January (we can't unconditionally pass the 8th bit, since many users de-
pend on the parity bit being removed for use with many timesharing
services).  Now that won't automatically fix all those copies out in the
field, so to make it easier to get your copy replaced, we'll waive
the customary $10 update charge, providing:
	1) You return your original distribution disk in a
	   re-useable container
	2) You include return postage.
	3) Mark the package "
	3) Mark the package "Eighth-bit update"

This will also update your software to the recently released version 1.6
(which is a pretty good deal, since 1.6 includes the Kermit and YMODEM
protocols, as well as a bunch of other new features).

One final consideration: someone mentioned that MEX filters some con-
trol characters even when filter is off.  Actually, this is only partially
true: the characters in question are SO and SI (0EH and 0FH) ... these are
the Compuserve protocol start and end-protocol signal characters.  If you
disable Compuserve protocol ("STAT CIS OFF"), MEX will no longer "eat"
these characters.			---Ron Fowler, NightOwl Software, Inc.
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From: "Bruce K. Martin Jr." <u557593877ea%ucdavis.uucp@BRL.ARPA>
Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm
Subject: Chaining programs
Message-ID: <60@ucdavis.UUCP>
Date: 18 Jan 86 03:41:10 GMT
To:       info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA

Fellow netlanders--
  I am looking for a quick and dirty way to get one CP/M program to execute
another.  I have been told (by someone who didn't have the details) that
it is possible to have the CCP perform this function (thereby relieving me
of the problem of writeing a loader).  If anyone has done this or could give
me a pointer to some information, I would appreciate the help.
                              Thanks in advance,
                                        Bruce

-- 
 Bruce K. Martin Jr. [UUCP] ...{dual,lll-crg,ucbvax}!ucdavis!deneb!u557593877ea
 (916) 756-6518      [ARPA] ucdavis!deneb!u557593877ea@ucb-vax.arpa
  As usual, all the above views are completely my own.  All proprietary
names and phrases are the property of their respective firms.  Is that all mom?

     "You have to be trusted by the people that you lie to..."
                                         Pink Floyd
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From: Robert Jaquiss <robertj%tektronix.uucp@BRL.ARPA>
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Subject: Looking for Compupro fans
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Are there any Compupro users out there? I would like to make a list of us.
Please reply via email or call.
Robert S. Jaquiss Jr.
ucbvax!tektronix!robertj (uucp)
robert jaquiss@tektronix (csnet)
robert jaquiss.tektronix@rand-relay (arpanet)
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From: Keith Petersen <W8SDZ@SIMTEL20.ARPA>
To:   Info-Cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
Subject: Data loss on terminal programs - Kaypro solution

Just a reminder that Kaypro users can solve their data loss in
terminal programs problem by getting a program from SIMTEL20 called:

Filename			Type	 Bytes	 CRC

Directory PD:<CPM.KAYPRO>
FASTTERM.LBR.1			BINARY	  4608  CD25H

It's also available from many RCP/M's and from GEnie's CP/M library
#20.

--Keith
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Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm
Subject: Re: Chaining programs
Message-ID: <306@vger.UUCP>
Date: 18 Jan 86 22:58:33 GMT
To:       info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA

In article <60@ucdavis.UUCP>, u557593877ea@ucdavis.UUCP (Bruce K. Martin Jr.) writes:
> Fellow netlanders--
>   I am looking for a quick and dirty way to get one CP/M program to execute
> another.  I have been told (by someone who didn't have the details) that
> it is possible to have the CCP perform this function (thereby relieving me
> of the problem of writeing a loader).  If anyone has done this or could give
> me a pointer to some information, I would appreciate the help.

The best example that I have of this is contained in the source code to
the public domain program SYNONYM3.  Basically what is done is that the
command line buffer in the CCP is stuffed with the command line to be
executed, the proper length and character position pointer is set and 
control is transferred to the CCP.  This does not work with ZCPR, and can
only be used if the program you are chaining from does not overwrite the
CCP.  Get the source to SYNONYM3 from a BBS or your local user group and
have fun.

John M. Sully
...!ucbvax!ucscc!ucscl!suzuki
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From: "Kurt L. Reisler" <klr%hadron.uucp@BRL.ARPA>
Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm
Subject: Re: USR Courier 2400
Message-ID: <192@hadron.UUCP>
Date: 19 Jan 86 03:23:30 GMT
To:       info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA

You mentioned a firmware upgrade in your Courier 2400 corrected the problems
you were having.  Do you know what the ROM product code is?  This is the 3
digit code response to an ATI0 command.  I am currently running rev. 242, and
would like to upgrade it, if there is a more recent one.

Thanks
Kurt Reisler
SYSOP - FIDO 109/74 - The Bear's Den 
19-Jan-86 11:05:49-MST,1318;000000000000
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From: Keith Petersen <W8SDZ@SIMTEL20.ARPA>
To:   "Kurt L. Reisler" <klr%hadron.uucp@BRL.ARPA>
Cc:   Info-Cpm@AMSAA.ARPA, Info-Micro@BRL.ARPA, Info-Modem7@SIMTEL20.ARPA
Subject: USR Courier 2400
In-reply-to: Msg of 18 Jan 1986  20:23-MST from Kurt L. Reisler <klr%hadron.uucp at BRL.ARPA>

    You mentioned a firmware upgrade in your Courier 2400 corrected the
    problems you were having.  Do you know what the ROM product code is?
    This is the 3 digit code response to an ATI0 command.  I am currently
    running rev. 242, and would like to upgrade it, if there is a more
    recent one.

The new Courier 2400 ROM is version 243.  Anyone who has an earlier
version can get a free upgrade (on an exchange basis) by calling
USRobotics.  The new ROM corrects the problem of not being able to
communicate with some Racal-Vadic 2400 modems.

--Keith Petersen
Arpa:   W8SDZ@SIMTEL20.ARPA
GEmail: W8SDZ
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To:   Info-Cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
Subject: FATCAT23 - a buffered multi-disk catalog program

Now available via FTP from SIMTEL20:

Filename			Type	 Bytes	 CRC

Directory PD:<CPM.CATLOG>
FATCAT23.LBR.1			BINARY	161792  DB4AH

FATCAT is a new multi-featured disk cataloging utility for Z80 CP/M
systems.  It was designed with the user's convenience in mind.  It
features rapid-fire insertion of diskettes.  The filenames are simply
appended sequentially to a temporary file.  Then when you are done,
while you go eat supper or watch TV the computer does the tedious work
of sorting, inserting, deleting, etc., without making you share its
tedium.  Also includes LBR file support.  Replaces FMAP, CAT, UCAT,
MCAT, XCAT programs.

Changes from Previous Versions 
 
NOTE -- If you have been using FATCAT version 2.0, please 
READ THIS:
 
NOTE -- Any references to version 2.1 apply equally to version 
2.3.
 
None of the program files in FATCAT vers. 2.0, 2.1, or 2.2 (those 
with file types of .COM, .CHN, .00?) or the Configuration Files 
(.CFG) are compatible with version 2.1.  To avoid needless 
confusion, you should make sure you have backed these files up 
onto an archival disk, and then GET THEM OFF YOUR SYSTEM.  They 
will not work with the version 2.3 files, even though some of 
them have the same names.
 
HOWEVER, ALL actual catalog and index files (.LIX, .RIX, .DNX, 
.LCX, .RCX, and .TCX) from previous versions ARE PERFECTLY 
COMPATIBLE with version 2.3, so there is no need to do anything 
with your actual data files, they will work just fine under 
either version.
 
BUG FIXES
 
Three bugs, are fixed in version 2.3
 
-- A serious bug that caused library files not to be deleted 
properly has been fixed.  This may have caused some corruption
in your catalog files, but not your index files.  To check, 
catalog a disk, note the number of library files reported.  Then 
output all files in the catalog.  If these numbers don't agree 
with the ones obtained previously your catalog file is corrupted.  
Running the <M> option will fix it.
 
-- Searches in OUTPUT mode now give correct results when 
seraching unambigous file names.
 
-- Counts of files now give correct results.
 
Two major bugs were fixed in Version 2.1.
        
-- The add and rename functions in cleanup mode now give full 
access to user areas other than the current one.
 
-- Disk resets have been added in places where disk swapping was
occurring -- causing BDOS errors when run under CP/M.  This was 
not a problem under ZRDOS, which is how it slipped through.
 
ENHANCEMENTS
 
The following enhancement is provided in version 2.3:
 
-- Output now available in a cross-reference format similar to 
XCAT, in addition to the previous FATCAT format.  Accessible from 
new <X> option on main menu or from command line of OUTCAT.
 
The following enhancements are provided in version 2.1:
 
-- The single/multiple mode toggle has been eliminated.  This 
function is now controlled by the Automatic Reindex toggle. 
Leaving this off speeds up the updating process, regardless of 
whether one disk or several have been inserted, and there is no 
automatic update as in former single mode.  What you gain here is 
faster operation.  However, the tradeoff is that you lose the 
robust backup that this admittedly slower method provided.  If 
you are going to run with the Auto-ReIndex off it is recommended 
that you back up your catalog disks.
 
-- Since Auto-Reindexing may now be disabled, we have added the 
'M' option which gives a manual Recreation of the Catalog files 
from the index files, which used to happen under Updating in the 
multiple mode (and which can still be achieved under Auto-
Reindex). The 'F' Option is now renamed 'R'.
 
-- FATCAT now takes better advantage of memory space resulting in 
a faster throughput, since disk accesses are reduced.  This will 
be apparent especially on floppy based systems.
 
-- The Printer Offset has been added as a configuration option 
for those who like to leave their paper in a fixed position on 
their printers. 
 
-- Command Line Control of Output is now provided.  See the 
section 'OUTCAT' for a description of this feature.  The output 
module will work from the menu, however, just as it did before.
On-line help available for OUTCAT with command OUTCAT //. 
 
-- Configuration setup provision allowing FATCAT to stop 
conflicting with the Plu*Perfect DateStamper's assumption that 
its special file would be first in any sort.
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To:   Info-Cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
Subject: FRONT50 - cursor-oriented command menu utility

Now available via FTP from SIMTEL20:

Filename			Type	 Bytes	 CRC

Directory PD:<CPM.DIRUTL>
FRONT50.LBR.1			BINARY	 52480  B569H

FRONT is a front-end utility for CP/M that replaces the A> prompt with
a menu of available programs and lets you select the command to run by
just moving a highlight to the command name with the arrow keys and
pressing one other key.  The menu shows the names of programs (.COM)
present on the disk.  Optionally, it will also show the names of .SUB,
.BAS and other program files which require an interpreter to run.
Requires a computer or terminal capable of cursor addressing.

If you are unable to access SIMTEL-20 because of network restrictions
please remember that MOST of the new files announced to Info-Cpm are
also available on my RCP/M Royal Oak (MI) which may be accessed at
300 bps (Bell 103a), 1200 bps (Bell 212a), or 2400 bps (V.22 bis).
The telephone number is (313) 759-6569.  They are also available from
the CPM RoundTable on General Electric Information Services' GEnie.

--Keith Petersen
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Subject:  just what is Datestamper?


Please pardon my ignorance, but as a newcomer to the CP/M world i still
have to ask some questions that most people would think ridiculous.
Can someone explain to me just what features Datestamper has, what its
limitations are, where it comes from, and how it goes about doing what
it does?  There aren't that many free bits in a directory entry, so
i expect that the time resolution must be really coarse or else new
pseudo-directory files are managed.  Enlighten me, eh?

						-neville

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>I have been devloping a V100 terminal program for the 4p with CP/M..
	(Greatly Contracted)

I too would be interested in trying your program.  I have a Tandy 4p with
128k and Montezuma Micro 2.2 and a 1200 baud modem.

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>I have been devloping a V100 terminal program for the 4p with CP/M..
	(Greatly Contracted)

I too would be interested in trying your program.  I have a Tandy 4p with
128k and Montezuma Micro 2.2 and a 1200 baud modem.

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>I have been devloping a V100 terminal program for the 4p with CP/M..
	(Greatly Contracted)

I too would be interested in trying your program.  I have a Tandy 4p with
128k and Montezuma Micro 2.2 and a 1200 baud modem.

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Subject: Re: Chaining programs
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If you are using CP/M 3.0, you can use the "chain to program" BDOS 
service call.  It is bdos function 47.

You load a null-terminated command line into the default dma buffer, then:

You have reg C: 2fh
	 reg E: ffh if you want the ccpt to initialize the default drive
	        to the "current" drive and user number (rather than
		"reset" to default values).

Then call the BDOS (addr 5 was it?).

Don't know off hand if this call works in 2.2 or not.  Haven't worked
with that version for a few years now.


-- 

Mike Kersenbrock
Tektronix Software Development Products
Aloha, Oregon
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Subject: Re: Need info fast on Diablo, NEC, and other heavy-duty LQ printers
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In article <1628@brl-tgr.ARPA> LBAFRIN%clemson.csnet@CSNET-RELAY.ARPA writes:
>Howdy, fellow netlandians.  I need some quick feedback from the field on
>the performance (speed- and print-quality-wise), *reliability*, and
>expected maintenance costs for *heavy-duty* letter quality printers,...
>...
>Laser technology is still in the running, but I have to have print quality
>equal to the finest daisy wheel printers....

A friend of mine told me that PC magazine always does a November
issue on printers and this year included laser printers.  He said
that there are 2 November issues, so be sure you get the right
one.

-- 
Bill Svirsky
Citicorp/TTI
3100 Ocean Park Blvd.
Santa Monica, CA 90405 Work phone: 213-450-9111 x2597
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Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm
Subject: Re: Chaining programs
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Date: 20 Jan 86 18:45:40 GMT
To:       info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA

In article <306@vger.UUCP> jparnas@vger.UUCP (Jacob M. Parnas) writes:
>In article <60@ucdavis.UUCP>, u557593877ea@ucdavis.UUCP (Bruce K. Martin Jr.) writes:
>> Fellow netlanders--
>>   I am looking for a quick and dirty way to get one CP/M program to execute
>> another.  I have been told (by someone who didn't have the details) that
>> it is possible to have the CCP perform this function (thereby relieving me
>> of the problem of writeing a loader).  If anyone has done this or could give
>> me a pointer to some information, I would appreciate the help.
>
>The best example that I have of this is contained in the source code to
> ...

An easier way to do this is to write a $$$.SUB file onto the A drive of
the system, then warm boot.  

A $$$.SUB file is usually the result of running SUBMIT.  The format is
to have all the commands (with arguments expanded) in REVERSE order with
each command occupying a 128 byte record.  Thus record 0 of the file
will contain the last command to be executed and record N-1 will contain
the first command, where there are N commands.

The format of each record is a count byte at offset 0, then the command
line to be executed at offset 1, then a 0 byte immediately after the
command (no CR or LF).

You can examine an existing $$$.SUB by running a long submit, pressing
the reset button halfway through, then booting from ANOTHER boot disk
and loading the original boot disk in B:.  Then use DDT on the existing
$$$.SUB file.  Be sure to delete this file before putting the boot disk
back in A: or you will keep going where you left off the next time you
warm boot.

DBASE II uses this method of program chaining, to execute something,
then return to DBASE.  You can too.  You don't have to worry about
overwriting the CCP or anything.  

Another trick is to reload your program at the end of the chain
procedure with some argument that tells it that it is being rerun.
Thus, you might get dates and other parameters from a file rather than
the user...  Avoid copyright messages, etc.

Let me know if you want to discuss this sort of thing further.
						-e
-- 
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To:       info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
Subject:  CPT Ports

	
	Fellow Netlanders,

		Thank You all for the assistance You've rendered
	in my search for CPT port addresses. I appreciate it 
	very much.

		To all who requested the results of my efforts,
	I regret to inform you that I've been side-tracked before
	harvesting the fruits of my and those who assisted me
	labors.
		
		If I can get back to it, soon and without too 
	much difficulty, I will summarize my findings to the
	NET.

				Thanks to all,

				Jack H. Smith



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Subject: Database Applications Survey
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Hi. I am doing a survey on dbms's and dbms applications. I'm interested
in PC applications as well as larger scale applications (Unix, etc.). 

They type of information I'm looking for is: 

1) What type of dbms do you use (dBASE-III, Informix, Ingres, Rbase, etc.).
2) What type of system does it run on (Unix 4.2, PC-DOC, etc.).
3) What type of applications are you using your dbms for (accounting,
   mailing lists, bibliographical, etc.).

I'm most interested in #3, especially "unique" applications. This survey
is for personal use. Please send responses via mail. Also, if anyone
else is interested in this information, send me mail and I'll be glad to
forward my responses. Also, please respond even if you think your
applications are uninteresting, and if you have any ideas for dbms
applications that you have not seen done before. Thanks a lot....

-- 
* Isaac Salzman (Gumby)
* Research Development Labs (RDL)
* Culver City, California, 90230
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Subject: Re: Need info fast on Diablo, NEC, and other heavy-duty LQ printers
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In article <634@ttidcb.UUCP> svirsky@ttidcb.UUCP (William Svirsky) writes:
>In article <1628@brl-tgr.ARPA> LBAFRIN%clemson.csnet@CSNET-RELAY.ARPA writes:
>>Howdy, fellow netlandians.  I need some quick feedback from the field on
>>the performance (speed- and print-quality-wise), *reliability*, and
>>expected maintenance costs for *heavy-duty* letter quality printers,...
>>...
>>Laser technology is still in the running, but I have to have print quality
>>equal to the finest daisy wheel printers....
>
>A friend of mine told me that PC magazine always does a November
>issue on printers and this year included laser printers.  He said
>that there are 2 November issues, so be sure you get the right
>one.
>
CORRECTION: Sorry about any mixup, but it is the September 17,
1985 issue.  He brought it in today (21 jan).  In a nutshell, the
editor's choices are:

 - for daisy wheel printers, the Qume Sprint 11/90 PLUS for $2500.
   Comments were: one of the best in print quality, one of the noisiest,
   Qume printers have a workhorse reputation.  Tested at 62.8 cps.
 - for laser printers, the Apple LaserWriter for $6995.  It will
   connect to a PC serial port.  Accepts most Diablo control sequences.
   Stunning typeset-quality variable-size proportional fonts.  8 pages
   printed per minute (approx. equal to 108 cps).  Quiet.
   14 built in fonts.  Currently has 1 big
   disadvantage; if you are not using the printer in Diablo-compatible
   mode (ie. you want other than the Diable font), it must be programmed
   in the PostScript printer programming language.  At the time of the
   review, only Microsoft Word version 2.0 supported PostScript.

They had examples of the print quality of the print quality of all of the
printers reviewed.  The print quality of the LaserWriter was better than
that of the Qume.
>-- 
>Bill Svirsky
>Citicorp/TTI
>3100 Ocean Park Blvd.
>Santa Monica, CA 90405 Work phone: 213-450-9111 x2597
>{philabs,randvax,trwrb,vortex}!ttidca!ttidcb!svirsky


-- 
Bill Svirsky
Citicorp/TTI
3100 Ocean Park Blvd.
Santa Monica, CA 90405 Work phone: 213-450-9111 x2597
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Subject: Re: 40 track drives on Apple CP/M
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In article <1598@brl-tgr.ARPA> Kushall.henr@XEROX.ARPA writes:
>Later Shugart updated the drive design to 40 tracks, and 40 tracks has
>been standard on 5.25 inch drives for quite a while now. I don't know of
>any other companies that make 35 track drives. Shugart drives labled

I have a couple of Pertec FD250s that were originally 35 track.
The cam is long enough, but there's a limit stop on the head slide.

It's quite an easy matter to fix this (with a hacksaw!). I fixed one
of my drives for 40 track for disk interchange purposes.
-- 
	Peter Kendell <pete@stc.UUCP>

	...!mcvax!ukc!stc!pete

	`When your achievements match your expectations,
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Please tell us what version of the ROM fixes the courier.  My ATI command
says I have version 242.

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***
I am looking for one or more computers for educational and/or office administrative
purposes for an organization which works with teenagers including those with
serious criminal records, and has an excellant record for providing them with
a means for getting on a constructive path in life.  There are several offices,
in New York, Boston, San Francisco, Los Angelos, and my own group in New
Jersey, any of which could use a system for administrative purposes.
Something IBM compatible (even Sanyo 555) would be ideal, or next best would
be any thing that will run WordStar.  Also a serial printer is needed.
Also, in New York at least, various volunteers are very interested in
setting up computers where they can be used to instruct the teens who
are in the follow through program.

If you live far away, I'm sure a means can be found to pay shipping.
Thank you for your time
Hal Morris
houxm!hom
201-949-4720
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Subject: Re: Chaining programs
In-reply-to: <222@micropro.UUCP>
To: Ed Greenberg <edg%micropro.uucp@BRL.ARPA>
cc: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA, Chapman.ES@xerox.ARPA
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If a discussion ensues, I'd like to be included.

Has anyone mentioned that placing a (single) new command, in the format
you describe for the submit file, at CCP+3, and then just RETurning from
your program will also do a chain?  I believe that the current disk and
user stay logged in with this procedure.  This is for CP/M 1.x and 2.x,
and of course, only works if the CCP hasn't been overwritten.  I don't
know about other versions of CP/M and I haven't ever used this myself,
so some of the details may not be exactly correct.

Cheryl
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Subject: Re: just what is Datestamper?
In-Reply-To: Your message of Sun, 19 Jan 86 18:22 EST.

DateStamper is a CP/M 2.2 system extension for time-and-date-stamping of
files.  It occupies under 1K of high memory, either above/in the bios
or below the CCP and stamps the created, accessed and modified date-and-time
of each file.  Each directory entry has a corresponding 16-byte
entry in the special datestamper file, which is the first directory entry
and occupies the first unreserved groups on a disk.  A disk is prepared,
once, for datestamping with the PUTDS utility, which creates the file,
moving existing entries/groups if necessary.

Except for the use of the one directory entry and space for the file
(1K per 64 directory entries) DateStamper and non-datestamper disks
are totally compatible.  All disk i/o is done at the bios level,
with little overhead.

DateStamper runs with most any type of real-time clock. Or with none,
in which case it keeps the date plus  "relative time" - one tick per
file access.  The clock interface is portable - applications programs
can read the current time with an extended bdos-getversion call.

The major utilities supplied with DateStamper are SDD - an extension
of Super Directory to include created/accessed/modified dates/times,
and DATSWEEP - a many-featured file-maintenance program that supports
incremental file backup, etc. by date and time.  Applications programs
can obtain a file's datestamps through a specified interface.

DateStamper runs with the standard Digital Research CP/m 2.2 bdos,
with various Apple 2/2e z80 look-alikes, Magnolia-H/Z 89/90, ZRDOS,
and some other variants.  Not, however, with 3.0 or TurboDos.

For more information contact:

PluPerfect Systems (714) 659-4432
Box 1494
Idyllwild CA 92349

--bridger mitchell (I am a co-author).


22-Jan-86 19:53:25-MST,1133;000000000000
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  In defense of Jay Sage, I would note that:
     1) The original definition of the program error byte (0 if error,
        non-zero if OK) made no sense intuitively and was confusing
        as well as inflexible.
     2) His upgraded CPR has never been publicly distributed.  Jay gave
        me a copy, with instructions to not give it out to anyone else.
        The CPR allows you to have both an extended command processor
        and an error handler, instead of forcing you to choose between
        them.  He also fixed some bugs in the original CPR.
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Date: 22 Jan 86 15:11:43 GMT
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In article <169@copper.UUCP>, michaelk@copper.UUCP (Michael Kersenbrock) writes:
> If you are using CP/M 3.0, you can use the "chain to program" BDOS 
> service call.  It is bdos function 47.
> 
> Don't know off hand if this call works in 2.2 or not.  Haven't worked
> with that version for a few years now.
> 

Nope, no such call in 2.2
The call exists in 3.0 as well as MP/M and CP/M-86 however.

       Robert Bickford     (rab@well.uucp)
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Does anyone have modem7 and/or kermit for the Vector V3-5030 (CP/M 2.2)
on the ferschlugginer 16-sector (hard) 5.25" floppy?  Please reply to
          MOORE@IBM-SJ.arpa

Please note change in address -- sorry.  (Our connection to the Arpanet
is undergoing an upheaval.)
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Subject: Technical information wanted on the Amstrad PCW8256
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*** REPLACE THIS LINE WITH YOUR MESSAGE ***

I will be very grateful if anybody can supply me with technical information
about the Amstrad PCW8256. In particular:

1.	Can the 8 empty DRAM sockets be used to enlarge the RAM disc and if so
	how is it done. It does not seem to be enough to just fill the empty
	sockets.

2.	Can the serial port be accessed directly via the Z80 i/o ports and
	if it can, how?

3.	Is anything known about the internal format of Locoscript files?

John Bovey
Computing Laboratory
The University of Kent at Canterbury
England
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I am looking for public domain software which will allow for
different print fonts.  I use an Osborne computer, an Okidata 82a
printer, and a relatively old version of WordStar (from 1981 or 2).
Any help would be appreciated.  Also, if there are Osborne users out
there with other public domain software which is available, please
let me know.

With thanks.
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From: "Kurt L. Reisler" <klr%hadron.uucp@BRL.ARPA>
Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm,net.micro.pc
Subject: Re: USR Courier 2400
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In article <104600008@uiucuxc> grayson@uiucuxc.CSO.UIUC.EDU writes:
>
>Please tell us what version of the ROM fixes the courier.  My ATI command
>says I have version 242.
>
>        uucp:   grayson@uiucuxc.UUCP
>    old uucp:	{ihnp4,pur-ee}!uiucdcs!uiucuxc!grayson
>    internet:   grayson@uiucuxc.cso.uiuc.edu
>       telex:	5101011969 UI TELCOM URUD --> Dan Grayson, Altgeld Hall.
>     us mail:	Dan Grayson, Math Dept, Univ of Ill, Urbana 61801
>       phone:	217-367-6384 home   217-333-6209 office


                    New Firmware Upgrade
                    For USR Courier 2400

                    Kurt Reisler - SYSOP
              The Bear's Den (FIDONET 109/74)
               Wash-A-RUG (FIDONET 109/483)

Once  again,  US  Robotics has an upgrade to the  PROM-based 
firmware  of our USR Courier 2400 modems.   The latest  PROM 
release has a product code of 243.  To determine the product 
code  of  the  PROM in your  modem,  startup  your  favorite 
communications program,  and type the command "ATI0" and hit 
the  return key.   If your modem returns 243 as the 3  digit 
product  code,  then  you  have the latest  release  of  the 
firmware.  If anything lower is returned, you should call US 
Robotics immediately and request a firmware  upgrade.   They 
are  doing this on an exchange basis,  as they did with  the 
upgrade from 241 to 242.

To get your PROM upgraded,  call US Robotics at 800-DIALUSR, 
and ask for Technical Support.   Tell them that you need the 
PROM  upgrade  and  they  will  take care  of  it  for  you.  
Replacing the PROM is a simple proceedure.   Pop the old one 
out,  and  gently insert the new one.   That should  be  all 
there is to it.

From  what  I  understand,  the new  firmware  corrects  the 
"streaming"  problem  that some of us were  having  when  we 
called  other USR Courier 2400 baud modems.   The  streaming 
problem was characterized by the modems connecting,  and one 
or the other generating a continual stream of garbage.   The 
only way to break the connection was either to drop DTR,  or 
to  physically  turn  off the modem.   Not a  major  problem 
during a manual call,  but mine would up attached to a long-
distance  FIDO for 2.5 hours during FIDONET time  (OUCH,  my 
aching  phone  bill!).    The  new  proms  also  correct   a 
connection problem with Ventel 2400 baud modems.

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From: "Frank J. Wancho" <WANCHO@SIMTEL20.ARPA>
To:   INFO-CPM@AMSAA.ARPA, INFO-MICRO@BRL.ARPA
Cc:   INFO-KERMIT-REQUEST@cu20b.ARPA
Subject: MODEM7/MEX/KERMIT for UTS-30?

I have a number of users in need of a MODEM7/MEX/KERMIT already
configured on a floppy disk for use on a UTS-30 system running CP/M
3.0.  For one user, the need is urgent.  He has been trying in vain to
upload a file for the last month using Sperry's TTY program, and that
file is a report that is growing daily!

Please contact me directly via net mail, or call my office and leave
your name and number and I will return your call.

Thanks,
Frank

AV: 258-6257
FTS:898-6257
505-678-6257
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Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm
Subject: Re: Chaining programs
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Date: 23 Jan 86 17:26:14 GMT
To:       info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA

In article <533@well.UUCP> rab@well.UUCP (Bob Bickford) writes:
>In article <169@copper.UUCP>, michaelk@copper.UUCP (Michael Kersenbrock) writes:
>> If you are using CP/M 3.0, you can use the "chain to program" BDOS 
>> service call.  It is bdos function 47.
>> 
>> Don't know off hand if this call works in 2.2 or not.  Haven't worked
>> with that version for a few years now.
>> 
>
>Nope, no such call in 2.2
>The call exists in 3.0 as well as MP/M and CP/M-86 however.
>
>       Robert Bickford     (rab@well.uucp)

  The BDS C compiler for 8-bit CPM systems has both chaining of programs
and root-segment capabilities.  Its a good deal even without these features,
but here is an added bonus for you.

			Bob Shapiro
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Subject: HELP !!!!
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I'm badly in need of infomation about a system which was dumped into my
dept. It seems to be a cpm based  system, so here goes. I can tell you
only that it is an SONY MBC-225, and that it is one unit which has two
floppy drives. It also has a crt, and some memory. There also some
japanese writing on the front face of most keys, while still having english
characters on top of those keys. I would like to knmow if there is any software
for this unit, and if there is any over the net?

Please send reply to ldurham@usc-eclb.
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From: guarna@uiucdcsb.cs.uiuc.edu
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Subject: Hard disk?
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Date: 23 Jan 86 06:25:00 GMT
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Nf-From: uiucdcsb.CS.UIUC.EDU!guarna    Jan 23 00:25:00 1986
To:       info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA


Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced hard disk subsystem for the
S-100 bus (controller, drive, power supply, cables, cabinet).  I've
seen some ads (like from CCT) but they seem to be 2-3 times more
expensive than subsystems for IBM PCs.  Is this just because of volume
or are there some less expensive systems out there?

	Vince

ihnp4!uiucdcs!guarna
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From: weather%convex.uucp@BRL.ARPA
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Subject: Re: Looking for Compupro fans
Message-ID: <39700003@convex>
Date: 22 Jan 86 23:13:00 GMT
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Nf-From: convex.UUCP!weather    Jan 22 17:13:00 1986
To:       info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA


/* Written  1:07 pm  Jan 17, 1986 by robertj@tektronix.UUCP in convex:net.micro.cpm */
/* ---------- "Looking for Compupro fans" ---------- */

Are there any Compupro users out there? I would like to make a list of us.
Please reply via email or call.
Robert S. Jaquiss Jr.
ucbvax!tektronix!robertj (uucp)
robert jaquiss@tektronix (csnet)
robert jaquiss.tektronix@rand-relay (arpanet)
(503) 627-6346 (audio phone at work)
/* End of text from convex:net.micro.cpm */
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From: T A Pappas <tap2%nvuxd.uucp@BRL.ARPA>
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Subject: Hard Disk for Epson Qx-10
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***************************************************************************************************************************************
************H E L P*****************
I own an EPSON QX-10, and would like to be able to
add a hard disk to my machine. The ones that are being
offered are very expensive, and I would like to find
out if anyone out there has ever added one on there own.

I also would like to know if it is possible to add on a
1.2 megabyte floppy to my machine using my present controller.
Questions:  (1) How much work is involved?
            (2) Could I do it myself?
            (3) Do I have to rewrite the controller?

Appreciate any help with this - 
                             Thanks--

                             Tom Pappas  Tel. (201) 758-2486
				...nvuxd!tap2
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Subject: CCS S-100 board problems-Help needed
Cc: sdcsvax!Info-CPM@AMSAA.ARPA, sdcsvax!Chapman.ES@XEROX.ARPA, 
    gould9!ihnp4!watmath!watcgl!jchapman@sdcsvax.ARPA, 
    sdcsvax!dgb%deimos@CIT-HAMLET.ARPA

   I am trying to bring up a S-100 system using the California  Computer 
Systems 2718 2 serial + two parallel I/O card as a console.  I have both 
an  A  and  B revision,  and have noticed what appears to  be  a  timing 
problem with the aforesaid board. When I read the status for SIO port A, 
it resets the status flag,  causing a real problem when it's supposed to 
be waiting on it's keyboard scan loop. The practical effect is that when 
you  are  doing  something  like using DUMP to dump  a  file,  it  won't 
recognise  a ^S,  and thus scrolls until the end.  Is there anybody  out 
there with suggestions/recommendations to fix this problem? I have tried 
to get through to "technical support" at CCS in Sunnyvale for quite some 
time, with no success. 

   I  am also looking for a copy of a message published out here a while 
ago,  which  dealt with a patch to the CCS 2422 floppy  disk  controller 
making  it  more  reliable  in 8" <=> 5" operation.  I  am  planning  on 
implementing  a  mixed system,  and a resend of this  message  would  be 
greatly appreciated.

                           Thanks in advance,

                              Kevin Belles


Kevin J. Belles - UUCP {sdcsvax,ihnp4!gould9,noscvax,cbosgd}!crash!kevinb
~~~~~ ~~ ~~~~~~ - ARPA crash!kevinb@{ucsd,nosc}.ARPA

Disclaimer: Anything I may say is my opinion, and does not reflect
            the company I keep. KjB

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From:  "David S. Bakin" <Bakin@MIT-MULTICS.ARPA>
Subject:  CDC 5 1/2" 96tpi Quad Density drives
To:  info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
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Hi.  I have an ad for a mail-order "surplus" place which is selling the
above mentioned CDC drives for $49.00 while Teac 55F drives are selling
for $99.00 (though the CDC drives are full height and the Teac drives are
1/2 height).  Has anyone any experience with CDC drives?  In fact, is CDC
still in the 5 1/2" drive business?  How about the Canon 2/3 height 96 tpi
drives that B.G. Micro is selling for $99?  THANKS in ADVANCE  -- Dave
Bakin  (Bakin -at mit-multics.arpa)
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Subject: Altair S-100 problems
To: info-micro@BRL-VGR.ARPA, info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
cc: NBaheti.es@xerox.ARPA, T.Moore%Mit-Eecs@mit-mc.ARPA
Message-ID: <860126-013916-2570@Xerox>

We are running on an Altair S-100 CP/M-80 2.2 system and need help in
getting a working MEX overlay and MBYE and XMODEM overlays for the beast.
I know that they are out there somewhere, but the problem is where
will I find them, and how will I get them to the machine. We are
hoping to put up a BBS on the Altair using a Hayes 1200 external
modem. If you have ANY ideas as to what we should try, please leave
me net-mail or call my RCPM and leave a message to SysOp. Thanks.
 
--Arun Baheti
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  RCPM: CP/M Connection @ 213-530-0670 [24hrs; 300/1200/2400]
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Subject: DATA COMPRESSION ALGORITHM
From: LC-WASH@USC-ISI.ARPA
To: INFO-CPM@AMSAA.ARPA
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Message-ID: <[USC-ISI.ARPA]26-Jan-86 14:01:10.LC-WASH>

A new data compression algorithm has been developed and tested, and
we are attempting to determine the degree of interest in the new
technique before placing it int the public domain.

The algorithm is unique - has a compression efficiency comparable to
the Hoffman algorithm - but has the added feature of allowing the
user to read, and edit the data in its compressed form. This avoids
the time and error potential of the decompress-edit-recompress
cycle.

We would appreciate any guidance towards other techniques that permit
the manipulation of data in its compressed form, and general views
on whether a new algorithm is of interest.

Please reply directly if your response will not be of interest to
the entire INFO-CPM list.

27-Jan-86 06:52:43-MST,673;000000000000
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Subject: Re: Looking for Compupro fans
In-reply-to: weather%convex.uucp@BRL.ARPA's message of 22 Jan 86
 23:13:00 GMT, <39700003@convex>
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Robert,
   I am a Compupro user.  System was purchased from Gifford with there OS.

Pete Dusel, Webster NY
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Subject: Re:  CDC 5 1/2" 96tpi Quad Density drives

I have an Altos 5-15D that uses CDC 5 1/4" 96tpi Quad Density drives.  I have
had
the system for 4 years and have had to replace one drive.  With some quad drives,
you can get by using Double Side, Double Density diskettes.  Not so with the CDC
drives.  You have to buy the soft sector double side, quad density diskettes.
These are typically twice as expensive.  The drives are very fast and I shuffle
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Subject: Font Software

Gerald,

     I know of an EXCELLENT public domain program for the Okidata
printer that is available for the IBM computer. Will that work for you?
For a membership of $10.00 a year, there is a public domain software supplier
that has many thousands of programs available for 40 different computers
for about $3.00 each, for postage and handling.  You may contact them at:

The Computer Spectrum
507 Fifth Avenue, Suite 400
New York, New York  10017

Their service phone number is (215) 862-9760

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Subject: Print font software for Osborne/Okidata combination wanted
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Date: 22 Jan 86 19:21:53 GMT
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I am looking for public domain software which will allow for
different print fonts.  I use an Osborne computer, an Okidata 82a
printer, and a relatively old version of WordStar (from 1981 or 2).
Any help would be appreciated.  Also, if there are Osborne users out
there with other public domain software which is available, please
let me know.

With thanks.
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Subject: ZCPR for RS Model 4

I'm seeking advice on installing ZCPR3 (and possibly ZRDOS) on my TRS-80
Model 4.  To date I cannot find the correct components to install these
enhancements.
 
SYSTEM CONFIGURATION
--------------------
 
I'm currently operating a TRS-80 Model 4 with 128k memory expansion 
installed, two external 5 1/4 in. SS/DD floppy drives and a Radio
Shack 5-Meg hard disk drive.  
 
Software:            Serial:              Comment:
CP/M 2.2             #CP2-1040-003828     Used MOVCPM.COM to create a
                                          63k system, allowing 1k to
                                          install hard disk driver.
 
HDRS5M.COM           #HDD-OU81-002626     Hard disk driver, also from
                                          Montezuma Micro.
 
Have some additional fee-software, ie. Montys Window and SYS2M that
reside in the ramdisk and will require additional "bit-fiddling" later
on if I'm going to continue to use them.  They make unadvertised use of
some addresses in the BIOS not previously claimed by DRI.
 
Biggest problem with the installation of ZCPR3 is that I do not have an
assembly language copy of the BIOS in order to create file CBIOSZ.ASM
required for the installation.  
 
Any information on getting ZCPR3 up and running on the above system will
be greatly appreciated.
 
 uucp:         {inhp4, cbosgd, sdcsvax, noscvax}!crash!mtarrani  
 ARPA:         crash!mtarrani@ucsd                               
 MCI Mail:     Mike Tarrani (278-8623)

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From:     "MAJ Daniel P. Krebill" (OGA) <krebill@ardc.ARPA>
To:       info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
Subject:  Osborne1 Baud Rate Help

There are unanswered references in the users manual that the O1
can be strapped on the RS232C port for 2400 Baud. Does anyone out there
know precisely how to strap the standard O1 for 2400 BPS? Thanks! Dan
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From: Rick Conn <RCONN@SIMTEL20.ARPA>
Subject: Re: ZCPR for RS Model 4
To: crash!mtarrani@sdcsvax.ARPA
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If you cannot modify your BIOS, Z3-DOT-COM is about your only option.
This is a commercial product from Echelon, and it takes only a few
minutes to install.  It creates a COM file that contains a Z-System.
On cold boot, run the COM file and it installs a Z-System in memory.

This option lacks the full functionality of the Z-System, and users
(in my experience) often want to later create a manually-installed Z-System
to pick up on the lack of functionality.  However, it is an easy out,
does not require a BIOS modification, and is a minimum of hastle (very small
learning curve and very little installation overhead).

There is a possibility that an RS Model 4 installation of ZCPR3 is
available, but I don't really know.  Echelon is the source to contact for
installation-specific questions.

	Rick
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From:  "John C. Klensin" <Klensin@MIT-MULTICS.ARPA>
Subject:  Osborne1 Baud Rate
To:  "MAJ Daniel P. Krebill" <krebill@ARDC.ARPA>
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According to the tech manual (and we've tried it, it works), you can
switch from 300/1200 by 600/2400 by removing the jumper position J1 on
level E and later boards.  Solder and cut time on earlier boards, it
says, but we have no experience with them.
  The manual also gives instructions (which we have NOT tried) about
providing other combinations and cranking up the maximum to 9600.  They
appear to involve some moderately serious wiring work.  Do you need
them?
  Note that from our experience, the O1 is operating fairly close to the
hairy edge of its capabilities at 2400, and you should expect a bit of
general flakyness as a result.
  You can, incidentally, set up most any baud rate you want under
software control to the 6850.
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From: Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX <caf%omen.uucp@BRL.ARPA>
Newsgroups: net.micro.pc,net.micro.cpm
Subject: X/YMODEM file transfer/email programs posted
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*** NAK THIS LINE ***

The latest versions of the *nix and VMS XMODEM and YMODEM file transfer
programs sb and rb have been posted to net.sources.  The manual pages
have been extensively revised.

Sb and rb transfer files with YMODEM programs including YAM, Pro-YAM,
IMP, MEX, and others.  YMODEM with 1k packets, and especially YMODEM-g
streaming protocol are more efficient than standard XMODEM, twice the
throughout downloading from Xenix at 9600 bps.
-- 
   Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX  ...!tektronix!reed!omen!caf   CIS:70715,131
   Author of Professional-YAM communications Tools for PCDOS and Unix
 Omen Technology Inc     17505-V NW Sauvie Island Road Portland OR 97231
Voice: 503-621-3406 TeleGodzilla: 621-3746 300/1200 L.sys entry for omen:
omen Any ACU 1200 1-503-621-3746 se:--se: link ord: Giznoid in:--in: uucp
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From: SECRIST%OAK.SAINET.MFENET@LLL-MFE.ARPA
Subject: New CP/M-80 Modula-2 Available
To: Info-CPM@AMSAA.ARPA

Date:    Thu, 30-JAN-1986 01:00 EST
To:      Info-CPM@AMSAA.Arpa,
         Ralph.Hyre@C.CS.CMU.EDU.Arpa
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Quote: "May your future be limited only by your dreams." -- Christa McAuliffe
Organization: Science Applications Int'l. Corp., Oak Ridge, Tenn.
CompuServe-ID: [71636,52]
X-VMS-Mail-To: ARPA%"Info-CPM@AMSAA.Arpa",RALPH

FYI, this is not an ad, "standard disclaimers" apply.  Workman & Associates
advertise a product called "FTL Modula-II" for $49.95 on page 108 of this
month's Dr. Dobb's.  Boasts of recursion, 15-digit reals, and a slick screen
editor.  Also available: full source to their screen editor in Modula-2 for
$39.95.  (Workman & Assoc.; Pasadena, CA; 818/796-4401)

Anybody know of any PD Modula-2s or ADAs for CP/M-80 out there ?!

-=<***>=-

Francis R. Scobee
Michael Smith
Ronald E. McNair
Ellison S. Onizuka
Judith Resnik
Gregory Jarvis
Sharon Christa McAuliffe

Let each of us carry on their mission in our hearts and souls 
that humankind may one day share the heavens with them.

Richard Secrist
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The mail archives on SIMTEL20 for this list have been moved to:

<ARCHIVES.CPM>CPM-ARCHIV.TXT  for the current messages

<ARCHIVES.CPM>CPM.ARCHIV.ymmdd  for the older messages

The files are available via ANONYMOUS FTP for those with TCP/IP access
to the Internet.

--Frank
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From:     "Kenneth E. Van_Camp" (LCWSL) <kvancamp@ardc.ARPA>
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	According to my copy of PD:<PC-BLUE.VOL000>PCBLUE.CAT, volume 133 of 
the pc-blue archives contains several files for DeskMate version 1.0.  When 
I try to ftp the files, they apparently do not exist.  Specifically, I tried 
to get PD:<PC-BLUE.VOL133>DESKMATE.COM.  I also tried volumes 134 and 132, 
since I know the CAT file is not always totally accurate.  I've checked the 
latest version of the PD:<PC-BLUE>PC-BLUE.CRCLST file but that only goes up 
to volume 124.  Any ideas on where these files are?  Your help is greatly 
appreciated.  

		  --Ken Van Camp <kvancamp@ARDC.ARPA>
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From: Chuck McManis <cem%intelca.uucp@BRL.ARPA>
Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm
Subject: Re: Hard disk?
Message-ID: <198@intelca.UUCP>
Date: 28 Jan 86 00:50:15 GMT
To:       info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA

One option is to build one. Using either a PIO or the NCR SCSI interface
chip you can build a "host adapter" on a single S-100 board with a 
handful of other parts. SCSI <-> ST506 boards are about $140 and a 10
meg drive about $200. Assuming you use the power supply in your S-100
chassis that is all you need except for some really simple BIOS routines.
There is also a host adapter board available through Hamilton Avnet for
about $100 with 'self installing' BIOS routines. 

--Chuck

> 
> Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced hard disk subsystem for the
> S-100 bus (controller, drive, power supply, cables, cabinet).  I've
> seen some ads (like from CCT) but they seem to be 2-3 times more
> expensive than subsystems for IBM PCs.  Is this just because of volume
> or are there some less expensive systems out there?
> 
> 	Vince
> 
> ihnp4!uiucdcs!guarna
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From: Ed Greenberg <edg%micropro.uucp@BRL.ARPA>
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Subject: Chaining programs by using a $$$.SUB file
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Date: 28 Jan 86 23:35:06 GMT
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I have received a bunch of mail on my suggestion for program chaining
in CP/M with a $$$.SUB file.  Most people asked for more info at a beginners
level.

I wanted to acknowlege these requests and forestall more requests by
announcing that I have indeed placed this request on my things to do
list.  I promise a posting on the subject by Monday 3 February by the
latest.
					-e
-- 
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Subject: Re: New CP/M-80 Modula-2 Available
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I just saw on net.micro.mac that Borland's Modula-2 (for CP/M) was announced.
I didn't see any reference to shipping date, has anyone else got any more
information?
					- Ralph
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Subject: Re: Chaining programs with $$$.SUB file (LONG)
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Date: 29 Jan 86 05:08:27 GMT
To:       info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA

> I have received a bunch of mail on my suggestion for program chaining
  ...
> Ed Greenberg			| {hplabs,glacier}!well!micropro!edg

  I posted the first request for info on this subject, and last night
I got a very crude version of this methode up and running.  Thanks to
Ed Greenberg for his help.  I hope this helps answer some questions.
Sorry for the length...I wrote it in 8080 assembler, but the commenting
is copious.
  Ah yes...feel free to use this code in any shape, manner or form.  I'm
not responsible for any consequences, but it works fine for me.
                                   bruce

 Bruce K. Martin Jr. [UUCP] ...{dual,lll-crg,ucbvax}!ucdavis!deneb!u557593877ea
 (916) 756-6518      [ARPA] ucdavis!deneb!u557593877ea@ucbvax.berkeley.edu

  As usual, all the above views are completely my own.  All proprietary
names and phrases are the property of their respective firms.  Is that all mom?

     "You have to be trusted by the people that you lie to..."
                                         Pink Floyd

;  This is a quick and dirty command executor and program chainer.
;
;  BY: Bruce K. Martin Jr.
;  ON: 1/27/86
;
;
        ORG     100H
;
        BDOS    EQU     05
        EOF     EQU     1AH
        LF      EQU     10
        CR      EQU     13
;
;
;  NOW SET UP CHAIN FILE
;
        CALL    SETDMA                          ;SET CP/M DMA POINTER
        CALL    SEARCH                          ;LOOK FOR FILE
        CPI     0FFH                            ;IS IT THERE?
        JZ      MAKEFILE                        ;IF NOT, GO CREATE IT
        CALL    DELETE                          ;YES - DELETE IT
;                                               ;IGNORE ERRORS
MAKEFILE:
        CALL    CREATE                          ;CREATE THE FILE
        CPI     0FFH                            ;ERRORS?
        JZ      CRERR
;
;
;       NOW READ ONE COMMAND AT A TIME AND SAVE IN AN INDIVIDUAL SECTOR
;
        LXI     H,COMSTR                        ;POINT TO COMMAND STRING
;
FILLOOP:
        LXI     D,DMA                           ;POINT TO BUFFER
        CALL    CLRDMA                          ;CLEAR DMA
        CALL    MOVE                            ;TRANSFER TO BUFFER
        INX     H                               ;POINT TO BEGINING OF NEXT
        SHLD    COMPTR                          ;COMMAND & STORE POINTER
;
        CALL    WRITE                           ;WRITE TO FILE
        CPI     0                               ;GOOD WRITE?
        JNZ     WRTERR                          ;IF NOT, GO PRINT ERROR
;
        LHLD    COMPTR                          ;GET COMMAND POINTER
        MOV     A,M                             ;GET FIRST BYTE
        ORA     A                               ;IS IT ZERO?
        JNZ     FILLOOP                         ;CONTINUE IF NOT ZERO.
;
        CALL    CLOSE                           ;CLOSE FILE
        JMP     EXIT                            ;DONE
;
;
CRERR:  LXI     H,CREMSG                        ;POINT TO CREATE ERR MESSAGE
        CALL    PRNMSG
        JMP     EXIT                            ;EXIT PROGRAM
CREMSG: DB      21,'FILE CREATION ERROR',LF,CR
;
WRTERR: LXI     H,WRTMSG                        ;POINT TO ERR MESSAGE
        CALL    PRNMSG
        CALL    CLOSE                           ;CLOSE FILE
        CALL    DELETE                          ;DELETE FILE
        JMP     EXIT
WRTMSG: DB      18,'FILE WRITE ERROR',LF,CR
;
EXIT:   LXI     H,EXTMSG
        CALL    PRNMSG
        JMP     00H
EXTMSG: DB      22,LF,CR,'PROGRAM TERMINATED',LF,CR
;
;       PRINT MESSAGE SUBROUTINE -- PRINTS A STRING AT THE ADDRESS [HL]
;       AND LENGTH [A]  {MAX STRING LENGTH 256}
;
PRNMSG: MOV     A,M                             ;GET STRING LENGTH
        INX     H                               ;POINT TO BEGINING
PRLOOP: LXI     B,02                            ;BDOS CONOUT
        MOV     E,M                             ;MOVE CHAR TO E
        PUSH    H                               ;JUST IN CASE!
        PUSH    A
        CALL    BDOS                            ;WRITE IT
        POP     A
        POP     H
        INX     H                               ;POINT TO NEXT LETTER
        DCR     A                               ;DECREMENT LETTER COUNT
        JNZ     PRLOOP                          ;CONTINUE IF NOT DONE
        RET                                     ;AND BYE
;
;       MOVE    THIS ROUTINE MOVES A STRING AT ADDRESS [HL] TO ADDRESS
;       [DE].  STRING IS TERMINATED WITH \0
;
MOVE:   MOV     A,M                             ;GET LETTER
        ORA     A                               ;IS IT ZERO?
        RZ
        XCHG
        MOV     M,A                             ;PUT LETTER
        XCHG
        INX     H
        INX     D
        JMP     MOVE                            ;LOOP
;
;
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
;
;  NOW -- SUPPORT SUBROUTINES.  THESE ARE FILE ROUTINES
;       THAT ARE CALLED BY THE MAIN PROGRAM
;
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
;
;       OPEN A FILE - FCB ALREADY CREATED.  0FFH IS RETURNED IN REG
;       A FOR A BAD OPEN.
;
OPEN:   LXI     D,FCB
        LXI     B,0FH
        CALL    BDOS
        RET
;
;       CREATE A FILE - NAME IN FCB.  RETURNS A NUMBER IN REG A
;       THAT IS BETWEEN 0 AND 7FH FOR A GOOD CREATE.  0FFH IS
;       RETURNED FOR AN ERROR CONDITION.
;
CREATE:
        LXI     D,FCB
        LXI     B,16H
        CALL    BDOS
        RET
;
;       CLOSE A FILE -- NOTHING RETURNED
;
CLOSE:  LXI     D,FCB
        LXI     B,10H
        CALL    BDOS
        RET
;
;       SET THE DMA ADDRESS.  NO ERROR CODES
;
SETDMA: LXI     D,DMA
        LXI     B,1AH
        CALL    BDOS
        RET
;
;       READ A RECORD FROM A FILE.  ERROR CODE RETURNED IN REG. A
;       CODE: 0 -- GOOD READ, 1 -- READ PAST EOF, ALL ELSE READ ERR.
;
READ:   LXI     D,FCB
        LXI     B,14H
        CALL    BDOS
        RET
;
;       WRITE A SECTOR TO A FILE.  CONDITION CODE IN REG. A
;       CODE: 0 -- GOOD WRITE, ALL ELSE WRITE ERROR.
;
WRITE:  LXI     D,FCB
        LXI     B,15H
        CALL    BDOS
        RET
;
;       CLEAR DMA TO ALL NULLS -- NOTHING RETURNED
;
CLRDMA: PUSH    H
        PUSH    A
        MVI     A,128
        LXI     H,DMA
CLRLP:  MVI     M,0
        INX     H
        DCR     A
        JNZ     CLRLP
        POP     A
        POP     H
        RET
;
;       SEARCH FOR A FILE SPECIFIED IN THE FCB
;       RETURNS IN REG. A 0FFH IF NOT FOUND
;
SEARCH: LXI     B,011H
        LXI     D,FCB                           ;FCB ADDRESS
        CALL    BDOS
        RET
;
;       DELETE  --  REMOVE A FILE SPECIFIED IN THE FCB
;       REG A RETURNS 0FFH FOR A UNFOUND FILEE
;
DELETE: LXI     B,013H                          ;DELETE FUNCTION
        LXI     D,FCB
        CALL    BDOS
        RET
;
;
;       STORAGE
;
;       COMSTR -- THE COMMAND STRINGS. EACH COMMAND IS TERMINATED WITH
;  A NULL, AND BEGINS WITH A CHARACTER COUNT.  THE LAST COMMAND IS
;  TERMINATED WITH TWO NULLS.
;
COMSTR: DB      3,'DIR',0
        DB      4,'STAT',0
        DB      0                               ;TERMINATOR
;
COMPTR: DW      COMSTR                          ;COMMAND POINTER
;
FCB:    DB      0,'$$$     SUB',0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
        DB      0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
;
DMA:    DS      128
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Compupro users can be found on the CPRO National Users Group BBS (703) 670-5881
They grant guest privileges for long enough to decide if you are interested
and for your dues to arrive if you are.  Cost is $24 and includes a bimonthly
newsletter.  The people on this system are pretty knowledgeable about
Compupro/Viasyn/Compupro hardware and software.  There are a couple of other
systems which I have heard mention that are aimed at Compupro users but I
don't remember the details.  Address is:
C-PRO National Users Group
P.O. Box 2146
Woodbridge, VA 22193
(703) 494-2166 (voice)
This group is sponsored by Onetco who occasional offer members good
prices on Compupro hardware and software.
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Hello Netlanders. I am very pleased with the responses I've been getting
from the database applications query I posted a couple weeks ago. I have
not yet compiled my results since they are still coming in daily. I will
post the results to the net when I do finish compiling them. I am just
posting now to let all who have responded know that I have not
forgotten about it. I am getting a lot of positive results, more than I
have expected, and best of all, NO Flames!!! Thanks all.... Expect a
posting of results in 2-3 weeks (as time permits)....

-- 
* Isaac Salzman (Gumby)
* Research Development Labs (RDL)
* Culver City, California, 90230
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Subject: ZCPR & Z-system
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Date: 30 Jan 86 01:33:39 GMT
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    I am looking for information on the ZCPR command processor and the
Z-system operating system. How hard is it to replace an existing CP/M 2.2 
OS with these replacements? If anyone could steer me in the right direction
on this I would really appreciate it (sources for info, etc.).
    I am using a DEC VT180 (Robin) CP/M machine. I imagine some of it 
would have to be machine dependant. Thanks in advance.
    Please send replies if possible to my BITNET address. If not, UUCP is fine.

                                                  Keith Kanoun
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Subject: Looking for address of CPMUG
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<>

As the sign says, I need the address for the CP/M
User's Group if the organization still exists.
Any help would be appreciated.

			Ron
-- 
--
		Ronald O. Christian (Fujitsu America Inc., San Jose, Calif.)
		ihnp4!pesnta!fai!ronc

Oliver's law of assumed responsibility:
	"If you are seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it."
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Subject: need help installing WS
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Date: 29 Jan 86 23:52:39 GMT
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[A>]

	I am trying to install wordstar on my CPM2.2 system.
Running WSINSTAL asks me for my terminal type, then exits.
WSU.COM is unchanged, WS.COM is not created.  What gives?
Am I missing something?  I have:
	WSMSG2.MAC		WSINSTAL.COM
	WSMSGS.MAC		WSMSGS.OVR
	WSRETEXT.COM		WSOVLY1.OVR
				WSU.COM

Thanks in advance

					Jeff '' Skot
					{ihnp4 | allegra ...} attunix ! jeffj
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Subject: Help finding Small-C Ver. 2.x
To: info-cpm@SIMTEL20.ARPA


I would like to get the sources to small C Ver 2.x. I know some
folks have added floating etc. and would like to get the "mostest"
version. Is it in some "clean" format on Simtel-20?
--Neil
