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From: Peter Kendell <pete%stc.uucp@BRL.ARPA>
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Subject: Re: Prgrmr nds HELP!
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Date: 30 Aug 85 10:10:59 GMT
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In article <1065@brl-tgr.ARPA> berman@isi-vaxa.ARPA (Richard Berman) writes:
>
>If you know where the command name/FCB/File-name-as-typed-in is stored, or how
>to find it, please drop me a note.
>
        I guess all the C compiler writers who can't provide argv[0]
        for applications on CP/M-80 would like to know too!
-- 
        Peter Kendell <pete@stc.UUCP>

        ...mcvax!ukc!stc!pete

	'Not everything that is not forbidden is permitted'
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From: "Dennis E. Griesser" <dennisg%sdcrdcf.uucp@BRL.ARPA>
Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm
Subject: Trojan Horse Programs
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Date: 30 Aug 85 01:48:29 GMT
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In article <160@chinet.UUCP> rlk@chinet.UUCP (Richard L. Klappal) writes:
>Backup or no backup, anyone who intentially posts anything that
>intentionally destroys information, and misrepresents it as
>something worthwhile deserves the greatest prosecution the law
>allows, and the parents should be responsible for the actions
>of their malicious (sp?) little brats if they try to hide
>under "juvenile".  Maybe make them pay for re-entering and

Indeed!

Actually, my first reaction was that a destructive trojan horse program is
an act of vandalism.  On deeper consideration, it is much worse.  Perhaps it
is the digital equivalent of a letter-bomb.  Reasoning:
  o it can be devastating in destructive potential to the unfortunate user
  o it can go off when you least expect it
  o an innocent person (like the mailman) probably handed it to you
  o the perpetrator can cover his tracks very well
There are a couple of major differences:
  o it can proliferate, injuring more than just the intended victim
  o these guys probably had no single victim in mind

Restitution is one thing, but this crime needs more than just that.  Sadly, the
perpetrators will probably never be found, so there is little use in brewing up suitable punishment.
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From: Ron Fowler <RFOWLER@SIMTEL20.ARPA>
Subject: ANSI terminal standard X3.64
To: info-cpm@BRL.ARPA
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  Does anyone know where I might find a copy of the ANSI X3.64 spec, pref-
erably on the net somewhere (and preferably, available for FTP)?  I just
purchased _A Programmer's Guide to Video Display Terminals_ (a fine source
for terminal data, by the way: data sheets on 145 different terminals.  ISBN 0-936158-01-8; entire data base available on separate diskette), and it makes several references to the ANSI standard, but doesn't say much about what the standard involves.  Any pointers much appreciated.		--Ron Fowler
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From: Jeffrey William Gillette <lisa%phs.uucp@BRL.ARPA>
Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm
Subject: Looking for a CP/M statistics package
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Date: 29 Aug 85 21:29:03 GMT
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[]

I have been asked to recommend a statistical package for a psychology prof
with a CP/M machine (really, an Altos MP/M II machine).  He needs chi square,
analasys of variance, Pearson's coefficient, one-way and two-way T tests,
as well as the simpler computations (mean, standard deviation, and the like).
The ability to present the statistical data is important, but the ease of
editing data is vital.  Any ideas on which product(s) I should recommend?
Please respond by mail.

Jeffrey William Gillette	uucp: ...!duke!phys!lisa
Duke University		       bitnet: DYBBUK @ TUCCVM
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Subject: Re: cp/m innards
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Osborne/McGgrah-Hill's CP/M User Guide By Thom Hogan is very good.
							Paul
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From: CLEMENTS@BBNG.ARPA
To: W8SDZ@SIMTEL20.ARPA
Subject:   W0RLI MailBox/GateWay v 10.0
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Version 10.0 of the W0RLI MailBox/Gateway has been released.  The
sources and binaries have been posted to SIMTEL20, and are also
available on disk from the author.

Filename			Type	 Bytes	 CRC

SIMTEL20 directory MICRO:<CPM.PACKET>
PACKT100.LBR.1			BINARY	275584  5E49H

The changes since the last such posting, version 9.3, are summarized
below in an extract from the NOTES.TNC file.

For those who have not seen this system before, a brief description:

The W0RLI MailBox and GateWay is a system which runs on a Xerox 820
computer and which operates on Amateur Packet Radio via one or two
TAPR TNCs (or clones). It also runs with TNC-2s (W3IWI is running one).

The W0RLI system is running at over 75 sites in some number of
countries and makes up the majority of the packet mail forwarding
system. It is also used for gatewaying between local packet areas and
long haul links on HF, or to nearby nets on other VHF/UHF bands.
For a more complete description, see NOTES.TNC.


Hank is not on ARPANET or Usenet.  I will be glad to relay comments
and questions to him.  If you want the distribution on disk, send
a self-addressed stamped 8" SSSD disk (in re-usable mailer) to Hank at
his callbook address. Two disks if you want the sources as well.
To reduce the load on Hank, I will do the same under the same conditions.
I am also good in the Callbook.

73,
Bob, K1BC

ARPANET: CLEMENTS@BBN
Usenet:  {ihnp4, decvax, linus, ...}!bbncca!clements

[Extract of NOTES.TNC follows]

     W0RLI MailBox and GateWay   Version 10.0

     Changes and additions since version 9.9 are:

Added Exclude user if has illegal call.
Added Exclude user by # digipeaters used.
Added TO call and first 32 chars of title to log on S.
Added @ BBS to M command.
L@ - List msgs @ BBS added.
File names in config.tnc: user.dat, mail.dat, msg.tmp
GateWay YES/NO on local menu.
Better handling of connects using user file.
Commands to send to tnc for state changes in config.tnc.
Cleaned up user login code, bug with linked user privelege.
Added Sx AAA [@ BBB] [< CCC] (and all varients).

     Changes and additions since version 9.8 are:

Cleanup gateway connect init code.
Add $J, $K, $M, $P
Store most recent SSID in user record. Use for connects.
MON.TNC specified in config.tnc.
Store null path in user record if user connects direct and
record HAD a path.

     Changes and additions since version 9.7 are:

GateWay connect checks user.dat for path.
DU lists from most recent.
F did not pick up msg #
Added date/time stamp to end of MON.TNC, write it periodically

     Changes and additions since version 9.5 are:

D/U/O did not pick up argument. (9.6 and 9.7).
E <msgnr>, blanked file title (9.6 only).
J lists now saved in file MON.TNC.
Fixed broken KT. (9.6 only?).
Removed the YES/NO for "connect with owners call" from config.tnc,
it is handled by the owners user record.
Clean up of code, minor bug fixes.
Upper/lower case ok in fwd.tnc
Change to z80 mnemonics.


     Changes and additions since version 9.3 are:

Changed forward priority, AT bbs used if there, TO call if not.
Current msg # updated to correct number after GR.
Fixed spurious connect during forwarding.
Added edit of 'AT BBS' to edit message header.
Fix of bug, lost correct call if msg entered after force fwd.
Fix to untangle - long message it fails.
Fixed broken remote sysop mode.

[End of extract]
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Subject: SIMTEL20 new files between 13-Jul-85 and 29-Aug-85

The following is a list of new files added to SIMTEL20's <CPM.*>
directories between 13-Jul-85 and 29-Aug-85.  For a complete list of
all files, get MICRO:<CPM>CPM.CRCLST.

        Filename                Type     Bytes   CRC

MICRO:<CPM.AZTEC-C>
	AZ-CROOT.LBR.1		BINARY	  6784  4AD0H <-redir. and piping

MICRO:<CPM.BYE3>
	B338INS.LBR.1		BINARY	110720  3ABBH
	B3AC-2.IQS.1		BINARY	  2688  B60CH
	B3AD-2.IQS.1		BINARY	  2944  6C08H
	B3AM-2.IQS.1		BINARY	  2944  D693H
	B3AP-2.IQS.1		BINARY	  3072  0EA3H
	B3B2-0.IQS.1		BINARY	  2560  28A8H
	B3C-5832.IQS.1		BINARY	  2176  BBCDH
	B3C-6242.LBR.1		BINARY	 10496  99C8H
	B3C-BBII.IQS.1		BINARY	  1792  AE78H
	B3C-BIN.IQS.1		BINARY	  2048  6631H
	B3C-CW.IQS.1		BINARY	  2304  62EBH
	B3C-KCT.IQS.1		BINARY	  1408  4D00H
	B3C-KP4.IQS.1		BINARY	  1792  069CH
	B3C-KPRO.IQS.1		BINARY	  3456  C8A6H
	B3C-LEG2.IQS.1		BINARY	  3072  B37EH
	B3C-QX10.IQS.1		BINARY	  2688  5CBFH
	B3C-SS1.IQS.1		BINARY	  2176  7CC4H
	B3C-XERO.IQS.1		BINARY	  1664  972EH
	B3CC-2.IQS.1		BINARY	  3584  025CH
	B3CP-2.IQS.1		BINARY	  4224  1B7CH
	B3CPMP1.IQS.1		BINARY	  2944  6D6FH
	B3DP-2.IQS.1		BINARY	  2816  DB5AH
	B3EA-2.IQS.1		BINARY	  2816  5EFAH
	B3EP-1.IQS.1		BINARY	  2688  4CB1H
	B3H8-2.IQS.1		BINARY	  2688  05DCH
	B3HZ-2.IQS.1		BINARY	  3072  DB25H
	B3KP-2.IQS.1		BINARY	  2432  7862H
	B3MD-2.IQS.1		BINARY	  3584  8B51H
	B3OS-2.IQS.1		BINARY	  5248  9EB8H
	B3OV-2.IQS.1		BINARY	  6656  6EE5H
	B3PH-2.IQS.1		BINARY	  2432  0BE9H
	B3R1-2.IQS.1		BINARY	  1920  AA31H
	B3R2-2.IQS.1		BINARY	  3072  B26CH
	B3R3-2.IQS.1		BINARY	  2048  F9EBH
	B3R4-2.IQS.1		BINARY	  2304  0E86H
	B3SB-2.IQS.1		BINARY	  2432  29DAH
	B3TV-2.IQS.1		BINARY	  2560  1FD8H
	B3US-2.IQS.1		BINARY	  2944  CC44H
	B3XE-2.IQS.1		BINARY	  2304  C2EFH
	B3ZB-3.IQS.1		BINARY	  3200  83D0H
	BYE3-INS.INF.1		ASCII	  2191  918BH
	BYE338.LBR.1		BINARY	127744  39B6H
	BYE338.MOD.1		ASCII	  1584  E467H <-mod. for BYE338

MICRO:<CPM.BYE5>
	B5-CPM3.AQM.1		BINARY	  3584  90C0H
	B5-CPM3.DQC.1		BINARY	  6144  6204H
	B5-DRIV3.AQM.1		BINARY	  1920  C710H
	B5-TIME.IQF.1		BINARY	  1152  E75FH
	B5AC-1.IQS.1		BINARY	  2432  3BBAH
	B5AD-1.IQS.1		BINARY	  2944  4BE6H
	B5AM-1.IQS.1		BINARY	  2944  753DH
	B5AP-1.IQS.1		BINARY	  2944  F243H
	B5C-2805.IQS.1		BINARY	  2176  AFEBH
	B5C-5832.IQS.1		BINARY	  2176  53B6H
	B5C-BBII.IQS.1		BINARY	  2048  549EH
	B5C-COMP.IQS.1		BINARY	  2816  6EFBH
	B5C-CPM3.IQS.1		BINARY	  2560  6840H
	B5C-DCH1.IQS.1		BINARY	  7424  6DF6H
	B5C-KCT.IQS.1		BINARY	  1408  DA8EH
	B5C-KP4.IQS.1		BINARY	  2048  B157H
	B5C-KPRO.IQS.1		BINARY	  3584  023FH
	B5C-LEG2.IQS.1		BINARY	  3200  067FH
	B5C-OKI1.IQS.1		BINARY	  3712  C10FH
	B5C-QX10.IQS.1		BINARY	  2816  BEABH
	B5C-SS1.IQS.1		BINARY	  2176  EDCDH
	B5C-XERO.IQS.1		BINARY	  1920  C230H
	B5CC-1.IQS.1		BINARY	  3968  8794H
	B5CM-1.IQS.1		BINARY	  3584  691CH
	B5CP-1.IQS.1		BINARY	  4608  0A40H
	B5DC-1.IQS.1		BINARY	  1792  CEE2H
	B5DP-1.IQS.1		BINARY	  2816  B93AH
	B5EA-1.IQS.1		BINARY	  2816  D395H
	B5EP-1.IQS.1		BINARY	  2688  F0AEH
	B5H8-2.IQS.1		BINARY	  2688  EF56H
	B5HZ-1.IQS.1		BINARY	  3584  D3D8H
	B5IM-1.DQC.1		BINARY	  4480  038EH
	B5KP-1.IQS.1		BINARY	  2560  67AAH
	B5LO-1.IQS.1		BINARY	  8064  F82FH
	B5MD-1.IQS.1		BINARY	  3712  0B21H
	B5MH-1.IQS.1		BINARY	 11392  C694H
	B5OS-2.IQS.1		BINARY	  7296  973AH
	B5OV-1.IQS.1		BINARY	  6656  9879H
	B5OX-1.IQS.1		BINARY	  8704  F7CAH
	B5PH-1.IQS.1		BINARY	  2688  4D5DH
	B5R1-1.IQS.1		BINARY	  2048  9D22H
	B5R2-1.IQS.1		BINARY	  3072  ECC1H
	B5R3-1.IQS.1		BINARY	  2304  9534H
	B5R4-1.IQS.1		BINARY	  2432  1CA3H
	B5SB-1.IQS.1		BINARY	  2560  5B0DH
	B5TV-1.IQS.1		BINARY	  2688  C978H
	B5US-1.IQS.1		BINARY	  3072  A94BH
	B5XE-1.IQS.1		BINARY	  2560  009DH
	B5ZB-1.IQS.1		BINARY	  2944  DE62H
	BYE5.DQC.1		BINARY	 17664  C997H
	BYE5.HQS.1		BINARY	  7424  F7B5H
	BYE5-INS.INF.1		ASCII	  4151  521AH
	BYE5-INS.LBR.1		BINARY	118656  D94EH
	BYE501.AQM.1		BINARY	 69120  2EA5H
	BYE501.LBR.1		BINARY	173952  E1EAH
	KMD04.LBR.1		BINARY	144128  4F1BH
	METAL.FQX.1		BINARY	  1792  3D47H
	TIME2.AQM.1		BINARY	  9856  F5D4H
	ZTIM-S3.COM.1		BINARY	  6656  C167H

MICRO:<CPM.CATLOG>
	BBCAT10.LBR.1		BINARY	 26240  E4DCH

MICRO:<CPM.CPMLIB>
	LRUN23.LBR.1		BINARY	 17792  39C2H

MICRO:<CPM.DIRUTL>
	SAP44.LBR.1		BINARY	 16128  073EH <-fixed directory sort
	SD100.LBR.1		BINARY	 80640  F9AEH <-latest super dir
	SDD102.LBR.1		BINARY	 17408  741BH <-simpler one

MICRO:<CPM.GENDOC>
	HD64180.WQ.1		BINARY	 10880  9C56H <-new extended Z80 CPU

MICRO:<CPM.GENDOC>
	LIGHTNG.PQO.1		BINARY	  7552  B380H <-lightning protect.
	PCPURSUT.LBR.1		BINARY	 13184  FC34H <-telenet info
	SB180.TQT.1		BINARY	  7040  A611H <-single board review
	SQUEAL.DOC.1		ASCII	  1390  EFBFH <-disk squeal fix
	TRADE.SHOWS1985.1	ASCII	 27713  A822H <-all known shows

MICRO:<CPM.HAMRADIO>
	FCC.LOTTERY.1		ASCII	 16515  7458H <-low power FM stns.
	GTWY1-23.TXT.1		ASCII	 17990  8C62H <-Gateway news
	MTRACK.LBR.1		BINARY	  6400  6641H <-satellite tracking

MICRO:<CPM.IMP>		--expanded MODEM7 program with overlays--
	I2AC-1.AQM.1		BINARY	  8192  73C1H
	I2AD-1.AQM.1		BINARY	  7808  9A96H
	I2AM-1.AQM.1		BINARY	  8192  66C3H
	I2AP-1.AQM.1		BINARY	 15360  285EH
	I2CC-1.AQM.1		BINARY	  8960  D62CH
	I2CP-1.AQM.1		BINARY	  8064  C1F4H
	I2DP-1.AQM.1		BINARY	  7808  DF99H
	I2EA-1.AQM.1		BINARY	  9344  BA47H
	I2EP-1.AQM.1		BINARY	  7552  58C4H
	I2H8-1.AQM.1		BINARY	  7552  66A0H
	I2HZ-1.AQM.1		BINARY	  7680  CC69H
	I2KP-1.AQM.1		BINARY	  7424  9547H
	I2OV-1.AQM.1		BINARY	 10880  D022H
	I2OX-1.AQM.1		BINARY	  7552  D7BDH
	I2R4-1.AQM.1		BINARY	  7168  658BH
	I2SS-1.AQM.1		BINARY	  7424  8C34H
	I2TV-1.AQM.1		BINARY	  8576  E8D6H
	I2XE-1.AQM.1		BINARY	  7424  D96AH
	I2ZB-1.AQM.1		BINARY	  7808  3A17H
	IMP-OVL.CQS.1		BINARY	  2816  D053H
	IMP-OVL.LST.1		ASCII	  3133  2847H
	IMP241.LBR.1		BINARY	 74368  FCB3H

MICRO:<CPM.KAYPRO>
	MAY85.MQG.1		BINARY	 27648  120AH <-Kaypro news letter

MICRO:<CPM.LIST>
	DBL211.LBR.1		BINARY	 11392  B121H <-double column print
	PSET14.LBR.1		BINARY	 23552  3BA7H <-printer set program

MICRO:<CPM.MBBS>
	MBYE37.AQM.1		BINARY	 61440  C8E2H <-another BYE
	MBYE37.MSG.1		ASCII	   839  7330H

MICRO:<CPM.MEX>		--MEX ver. 114 and overlays--
	INIKP.MEX.1		ASCII	   102  0AAAH
	MEX-TDOS.LBR.1		BINARY	 35328  0C10H
	MEX114.LBR.1		BINARY	145152  DDB4H
	MEX114-U.LBR.1		BINARY	 39936  3C8FH
	MEXOVL06.LQT.1		BINARY	 10880  F2A0H <-overlay list
	MX-SM13A.AQM.1		BINARY	  6784  A6B4H
	MXM-2403.AQM.1		BINARY	 14592  1426H <-auto fall-back 2400
	MXM-2403.DQC.1		BINARY	  1408  93E3H
	MXM-2403.LBR.1		BINARY	 43264  9BF7H
	MXM-CM11.AQM.1		BINARY	  5376  32C5H
	MXM-CQ10.AQM.1		BINARY	 10112  9BABH
	MXM-CQ11.AQM.1		BINARY	 10112  427AH
	MXM-RT10.AQM.1		BINARY	 10112  370DH
	MXM-RV15.AQM.1		BINARY	 10368  821BH
	MXM-UD10.AQM.1		BINARY	 11392  A67BH
	MXM-US13.AQM.1		BINARY	 18432  C8BEH
	MXM-USR2.AQM.1		BINARY	 20096  716CH
	MXO-AC01.AQM.1		BINARY	  6144  1425H
	MXO-AD13.AQM.1		BINARY	 18944  15ACH
	MXO-AL10.AQM.1		BINARY	  7808  249DH
	MXO-AL11.AQM.1		BINARY	  7552  84FFH
	MXO-AM10.AQM.1		BINARY	 13824  36C5H
	MXO-AP12.AQM.1		BINARY	 17536  9FA2H
	MXO-AP30.AQM.1		BINARY	 15104  3D61H
	MXO-AP31.AQM.1		BINARY	 31488  DD44H
	MXO-AP50.AQM.1		BINARY	 20864  C928H
	MXO-APCC.AQM.1		BINARY	 19328  0A29H
	MXO-BB11.AQM.1		BINARY	 19712  C7C2H
	MXO-CT14.AQM.1		BINARY	  8320  5A5AH
	MXO-DB10.AQM.1		BINARY	  9728  AC3AH
	MXO-DP10.AQM.1		BINARY	  6912  F08CH
	MXO-DT10.AQM.1		BINARY	  7936  FFF7H
	MXO-DV10.AQM.1		BINARY	 11136  439EH
	MXO-EP12.AQM.1		BINARY	  9600  2EDEH
	MXO-EP30.AQM.1		BINARY	 21504  053FH
	MXO-EPQX.DOC.1		ASCII	  2403  FF64H
	MXO-GB11.AQM.1		BINARY	  9728  4E75H
	MXO-H812.AQM.1		BINARY	  8064  79C7H
	MXO-HZ13.AQM.1		BINARY	 12416  7D47H
	MXO-IF10.AQM.1		BINARY	  8192  1A9AH
	MXO-II12.AQM.1		BINARY	  8064  0C47H
	MXO-IM11.AQM.1		BINARY	  6272  7277H
	MXO-K484.AQM.1		BINARY	 17408  EEB0H
	MXO-KP41.AQM.1		BINARY	 28416  CB45H
	MXO-KP42.AQM.1		BINARY	 28672  E2B9H
	MXO-KP43.AQM.1		BINARY	 13952  BA17H
	MXO-KPS4.AQM.1		BINARY	 21376  4E97H
	MXO-LO15.AQM.1		BINARY	 11392  E086H
	MXO-MC10.AQM.1		BINARY	  7040  1758H
	MXO-MD11.AQM.1		BINARY	 11264  DCD0H
	MXO-MG10.AQM.1		BINARY	 10880  CC6BH
	MXO-MM10.AQM.1		BINARY	 11136  6137H
	MXO-MM2.AQM.1		BINARY	 13440  C342H
	MXO-MR10.AQM.1		BINARY	  7936  86F3H
	MXO-MW10.AQM.1		BINARY	  9472  6D59H
	MXO-N815.LBR.1		BINARY	 48256  40E2H
	MXO-NE11.AQM.1		BINARY	  7424  9E5FH
	MXO-NE88.AQM.1		BINARY	 13952  C9C2H
	MXO-NS11.AQM.1		BINARY	 14464  9F3EH
	MXO-OA11.AQM.1		BINARY	 11648  AAA6H
	MXO-OC10.AQM.1		BINARY	 11904  3678H
	MXO-OS15.AQM.1		BINARY	 18560  51DAH
	MXO-OS22.AQM.1		BINARY	 10624  83DAH
	MXO-OSEX.AQM.1		BINARY	  9216  700AH
	MXO-OX11.AQM.1		BINARY	  9856  9519H
	MXO-P1-1.AQM.1		BINARY	  8192  3264H
	MXO-PM22.AQM.1		BINARY	 25728  443DH
	MXO-PR10.AQM.1		BINARY	  4864  6F85H
	MXO-QX10.AQM.1		BINARY	 13056  CA30H
	MXO-R211.AQM.1		BINARY	  7552  9361H
	MXO-RP10.AQM.1		BINARY	  9088  7D32H
	MXO-RS13.AQM.1		BINARY	 12288  1B68H
	MXO-SB12.AQM.1		BINARY	 14976  8DDEH
	MXO-SC10.AQM.1		BINARY	  6272  BD8CH
	MXO-SCAT.AQM.1		BINARY	  6272  BD8CH
	MXO-SD10.AQM.1		BINARY	  7808  BE99H
	MXO-SM13.AQM.1		BINARY	  6400  982CH
	MXO-SV10.AQM.1		BINARY	  8448  997BH
	MXO-SX10.AQM.1		BINARY	 18048  6285H
	MXO-TD30.AQM.1		BINARY	 13952  8359H
	MXO-TSA.AQM.1		BINARY	 22784  6AB6H
	MXO-TV11.AQM.1		BINARY	  7936  2FD7H
	MXO-TV13.AQM.1		BINARY	 13056  E3D5H
	MXO-UD10.AQM.1		BINARY	  6528  E1A9H
	MXO-UR13.AQM.1		BINARY	 25216  0F8AH
	MXO-US13.AQM.1		BINARY	 18560  A039H
	MXO-VP10.AQM.1		BINARY	  4736  0A83H
	MXO-VT11.AQM.1		BINARY	  8960  44C3H
	MXO-VTL1.AQM.1		BINARY	  6912  23CBH
	MXO-XE12.AQM.1		BINARY	 11392  A869H
	MXO-XE2U.AQM.1		BINARY	 22272  2C8DH
	MXO-Z321.AQM.1		BINARY	 16384  DA71H
	MXO-ZB11.AQM.1		BINARY	  7040  1552H
	OTRONMEX.LBR.1		BINARY	 34944  211EH

MICRO:<CPM.MISC>
	PDSE-065.LQT.1		BINARY	 52992  47ACH <-latest RPCM list
	ROYALOAK.DQR.2		BINARY	 71808  AFE3H <-my RCPM directory

MICRO:<CPM.MODEM>
	DDNTAC.HLP.1		ASCII	  4225  EC44H <-hints on TAC use
	USR2400.UPDATE.1	ASCII	  1803  0021H <-Robotics ROM update
	X-PC.DOC.1		ASCII	127850  34DFH <-error-free terminal
							protocol info
	X-PC.DQC.2		BINARY	 77056  CA2CH <-same, squeezed

MICRO:<CPM.MODEM2>
	RT11MODM.C.3		ASCII	  8319  FEBDH <-MODEM for DEC RT-11
	XYMODEM.DOC.1		ASCII	 43645  8113H <-latest MODEM7/XMODEM
							and YAM protocol info
MICRO:<CPM.MODEM7>
	M7FT-1.AQM.1		BINARY	  6400  74D6H
	M7MMP4.AQM.1		BINARY	 25728  E27AH
	M7R4-7.AQM.1		BINARY	  8192  2943H

MICRO:<CPM.NEWS>
	MICROPRO.AUG.1		ASCII	  2427  CC5AH <-MicroPro news

MICRO:<CPM.PACKET>
	TEXNET.001.1		ASCII	  6768  EF6CH <-packet primer
	TEXNET.002.1		ASCII	  7009  A772H <  .
	TEXNET.003.1		ASCII	 10248  D82CH < .
	TEXNET.004.1		ASCII	  6455  C445H <.
	WA8DED.DOC.2		ASCII	 14988  7A21H <-TNC1 ROM update
	WA8DED.ROM.2		ASCII	 19480  02D3H <- "

MICRO:<CPM.PCDOS>
	GRAPH.DOC.1		ASCII	  3647  54A5H <-fancy graphics
	GRAPH.EXE.1		BINARY	 46592  5798H <- "

MICRO:<CPM.PCPURSUIT>		---Telenet's PC Pursuit info--
	ACCESS.DOC.1		ASCII	  1122  2CF3H
	BBSLIST.DOC.1		ASCII	  3877  EB23H
	EQUIP.DOC.1		ASCII	  2527  1A4BH
	FIDO.SESSION.1		ASCII	  7199  34C2H
	HOURS.DOC.1		ASCII	   614  6EBDH
	HOW-TO.DOC.1		ASCII	  2712  F47FH
	NEW-USER.DOC.1		ASCII	  1302  95E6H

MICRO:<CPM.RCPM>
	1KPACKET.DQC.1		BINARY	  2944  C105H <-new 1k protocol info
	LUX50B.LBR.1		BINARY	 81408  95ECH <-updated LUX
	XM-FNAM2.AQD.1		BINARY	  2432  BED4H <-file name add to XMODEM
	XMDM108.MSG.1		ASCII	  3257  0674H <-1k packet announcement
	XMDM110.FQ3.1		BINARY	  4352  5415H <-bug fix for XMDM112
	XMDM116.FIX.1		ASCII	  1013  46FEH <-bug fix for XMDM116
	XMDM116.LBR.1		BINARY	 99200  D27AH <-latest XMODEM

MICRO:<CPM.SMALLC21>		--Small C, version 2.1--
	SMC21LIB.LBR.1		BINARY	 62848  93A0H
	SMC21OBJ.LBR.1		BINARY	 59776  48B8H
	SMC21SRC.LBR.1		BINARY	 58880  84FAH

MICRO:<CPM.SQUSQ>
	SQUEEZE.TQT.1		BINARY	  7424  F133H <-Squeeze/Unsqueeze tut.

MICRO:<CPM.TERM>
	MCIMAIL3.LBR.1		BINARY	 16768  17C2H <-auto retrieve MCI mail

MICRO:<CPM.TURBOPAS>
	LCATCODE.LBR.1		BINARY	 17280  5065H <-disk catalog program
	STRIPPER.DOC.1		ASCII	   950  1916H
	STRIPPER.PQS.1		BINARY	  6656  D41BH
	TTUTOR1.LBR.1		BINARY	 58496  C054H <-Turbo Pascal tutorial
	TTUTOR2.LBR.1		BINARY	 42368  36CFH <- "

MICRO:<CPM.VDOEDIT>		--Video oriented editor with patches--
	VDO25.LBR.1		BINARY	 41472  C4B7H
	VPATCH10.LBR.1		BINARY	 14336  B14AH
	VPATFILA.LBR.1		BINARY	  7040  9C31H

MICRO:<CPM.WSTAR>
	WINDEX20.LBR.1		BINARY	  8960  3A55H <-WS text indexer

MICRO:<CPM.YAM>
	XYMODEM.DQC.1		BINARY	 27776  6394H <-YAM/XMODEM proto info

MICRO:<CPM.ZCPR3>
	Z3NEWS.2Q1.2		BINARY	  6144  A7DEH <-ZCPR3 news
	Z3NEWS.2Q2.2		BINARY	  7936  71B2H   "
	Z3NEWS.2Q3.2		BINARY	  7808  33C1H   "
	Z3NEWS.2Q4.2		BINARY	  8448  41C9H   "
	Z3NEWS.2Q5.2		BINARY	  8576  4F28H   "
	Z3NEWS.2Q6.2		BINARY	  7168  8BBCH   "
	Z3NEWS.2Q7.2		BINARY	 11648  80DDH   "
	Z3NEWS.2Q8.1		BINARY	  8064  48EEH   "
	Z3NEWS.2Q9.1		BINARY	 11904  50F0H   "
	ZBYE11C.MQC.1		BINARY	 20096  34E7H <-BYE RSX for ZCPR3
	ZNODES3.LST.1		ASCII	  2373  4B2BH <-list of Z nodes

--Keith
 3-Sep-85 08:17:41-MDT,1646;000000000000
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Subject: MDM7 vs MEX

David, I'm sorry you have't tried MEX114 yet and feel it's too complex
compared to MDM7.  It has an identical user-interface to MDM7xx with
command extensions that you can OPTIONALLY use (you could continue to
use the commands you already know until you learn more about it).
Wouldn't you find it much easier, for instance, to tell MEX something
like GET TOADBIOS.ASM and have it automatically send out the command
to your host to start the transfer and then additionally tell itself
to R TOADBIOS.ASM?  This is easy to do with MEX's READ files!  I have
another that I use with RCPM transfers that lets me say:

GETL SAP44 SAP44.COM    which automatically sends out to the other end:

XMODEM L SAP44 SAP44.COM  to extract that file from SAP44.LBR

and then it tells MEX:

R SAP44.COM

It lets me automatically dial a list of phone numbers, dynamically
load key strings, phone numbers (with optional baud rate specification
as a part of the phone number list), send out complex automatic
logins, do BYE at the end of a session, etc.

It's like having SUBMIT inside MDM7!

--Keith
 3-Sep-85 08:40:43-MDT,5070;000000000000
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Date: Saturday, 31 August 1985  22:33-MDT
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Sender: Bob Clements <clements@BBNCCQ.ARPA>
From: Bob Clements <clements@BBNCCQ.ARPA>
To: W8SDZ@SIMTEL20.ARPA
Subject:   WA8DED v 0.91 firmware for TAPR TNC-1 available
ReSent-From: KPETERSEN@SIMTEL20.ARPA
ReSent-To: Info-Cpm@BRL.ARPA
ReSent-Date: Mon 2 Sep 1985 20:36-MDT

This message announces the posting of version 0.91 of the WA8DED
firmware for the TAPR TNC-1.  It has been posted on SIMTEL20 on the
ARPANET.  Some Usenet guru will have to carry on from there for the
usenet folks.

The files are available from SIMTEL20 as:
Filename			Type	 Bytes	 CRC

Directory MICRO:<CPM.PACKET>
TNCDED.DOC.1			ASCII	 30130  CF05H
TNCDED.HEX.2			ASCII	 46093  9F06H
TNCDED.MSG.1			ASCII	  4211  3D8CH

This firmware runs on the TAPR TNC-1 and its clones, the AEA and the
Heath HD-4040 TNCs.  It is NOT an upgrade of the TAPR code. It is
a completely new implementation of the AX.25 protocol, both the
current version 2.0 and the older 1.x version supported by the normal
TAPR code. It also supports up to four simultaneously open connections
on one TNC.  And it has a "host friendly" mode, which is intended to
simplify the interfacing of the TNC to a Bulletin Board or other
computer system. It has noticeably fewer protocol bugs than the
TAPR code, and a much more informative Monitor mode.

The command interface is NOT the same as the TAPR TNC code.  It is
therefore not just an improvement for your TNC, but a complete change
of the interface. So you might not want it if you (or your computer)
are used to the standard interface.

The files posted are: This message, TNCDED.MSG; The documentation
file, TNCDED.DOC; and the binary of the code itself, in Intel Hex
format, in TNCDED.HEX.

The code occupies two 2764 EPROMs (actually about 1.2 EPROMs -
plenty of space left in the second one).  The EPROMs reside at
C000 and E000 of the TNC, sockets U11 and U12 respectively.  If
you need to manipulate this file with a CP/M DDT, remember to use
an offset with the I command so that you don't overwrite your
DDT, BDOS and BIOS. Put C000 through DFFF into the EPROM for U11,
and put E000 through FFFF into the EPROM for U12.

The code and documentation are copyrighted 1985 by Ronald Raikes,
WA8DED. They are submitted with his permission for non-commercial
use by individual Radio Amateurs. All other rights reserved by
Ronald Raikes.

The program is written in 6809 assembler. The source code is not
being posted, but is available from Ron by sending him an 8" SSSD
CP/M format disk in a reusable mailer with return postage.
Enclose a letter agreeing to the above personal use restriction.
To ease the load on Ron, I will also make copies under the same ground
rules.

When I talked to him today, he sounded somewhat overwhelmed by the 
number of people contacting him about getting copies of the ROMs.
I hope that by posting them here I will reduce that load on him, not
increase it.  Please use your discretion before adding to the crowd
of people contacting him.  But if you have to, ...

You can reach Ron by packet through the forwarding mailbox network.
Address him as WA8DED @ KD6SQ.  He is not on ARPANET or Usenet.
His US mail address is:

	Ronald Raikes, WA8DED
	9211 Pico Vista Road
	Downey, CA 90240

If you want to mail me a disk, as offered above, I'm good in the
callbook.

73,
Bob, K1BC
ARPANET: CLEMENTS@BBN
Usenet:  {ihnp4, decvax, linus}!bbncca!clements
Amateur Packet Radio BBS net: K1BC @ K1BC, via W0RLI

[Political statement: Boycott the TNC-2 until a maintenance release
of TNC-1 comes out!]

[Usual disclaimers and trademark notices]

The following message ported from the WA6OSA Packet Mailbox:

*** Message from WA6OSA to ALL entered Thursday 01-Aug-85 at 8:45 PM
*** Subject: ++NEW IMPROVED++ WA8DED FIRMWARE FEATURES

Version 0.9 of the WA8DED firmware for the TAPR TNC-1 compatables is
now available.  It is written in 6809 assembly language and is
contained in two 2764 EPROMs.  Some of its outstanding features are:

1. Up to four simultaneous connects (plus unproto).
2. Easy to read 'monitor' frame information in unproto mode.
3. Simple 'On Screen' Calibration.
4. Digipeats version 2 protocol.
5. Meaningful channel status display (separate status for each channel).
6. Supports modem baud rates up to 9600 baud.
7. New-Improved Host Mode (for computer interface).
8. Display of link state and number of free buffers.
9. XON-XOFF flow control
10.Auto-Unattended/Beacon Mode.

Version 1.0 should be available around the first of September and is
contained in two 2764 EPROMS.  The W6IXU mailbox is currently using a
beta version 0.9 of the WA8DED firmware.
 3-Sep-85 08:47:14-MDT,3170;000000000000
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Sender: KPETERSEN@SIMTEL20.ARPA
From: Keith Petersen <W8SDZ@SIMTEL20.ARPA>
To:   Info-Cpm@BRL.ARPA
Subject: Z8E - at last! a free Z80 debugger for CP/M

Z8E - a Z80 DEBUGGING MONITOR has been released to the public (it's
copyrighted but permission has been given for non-profit use).

Z8E is a professional quality interactive debugging tool designed
to speed the testing of Z80 assembly language programs.   Origin-
ally written as a standalone monitor,  Z8E was used in the  deve-
lopement  of the world's largest Touch-Tone Input/Voice  Response
system.   Now redone to run in a CP/M or TurboDOS environment Z8E
contains  more features in less memory than any comparable  soft-
ware product.  Occupying less than 9K of memory, Z8E includes the
following among its many features:

      - Full screen animated display of the program under
	test while it is being executed by the Z80  (uses
	cursor addressing, configurable by the user).

      - Complete Z80 inline assembler,	with labels, sym-
	bols,  expressions,  and directives,  using Zilog
	mnemonics
			
      - Interactive  disassembly with labels and  symbols
	to  console  or disk allows the user  to  specify
	output formats and add comments 

      - Fully  traced program execution including a  full
	screen single step command that instructs Z8E  to
	disassemble  code  and to move the cursor to  the
	next instruction to execute

      - Up to 16 user settable breakpoints with  optional
	pass counts

      - True  symbolic	debugging  using the  input  from
	multiple   Microsoft  MACRO-80 .PRN  and  LINK-80
	.SYM  files and Z80ASM .LST and SLRNK and  Z80ASM
	.SYM files from SLR Systems.

      - Dynamic relocation of Z8E at load time to the top
	of   user  memory regardless of  size.	 No  user
	configuration of any kind is required.	

The files are available as:

Filename			Type	 Bytes	 CRC

Directory MICRO:<CPM.DEBUG>
Z8E.LBR.1			BINARY	104704  1D4CH
...which contains the .COM, DOC, and SYM for patching cursor control.

Z8E.MQC.1			BINARY	112512  4925H
...the source code, for those who wonder how it works.  This was not
put into the LBR because I felt not everyone would need the source and
the LBR is already VERY big.

If you are unable to access Simtel-20 because of network restrictions
please remember that MOST of the new files announced to Info-Cpm are
also available on my RCPM Royal Oak (MI) which may be accessed at 300
bps using the 103a modem mode or 1200 bps using either the 212a or
Vadic 3400 modes.  The telephone number is (313) 759-6569.

--Keith Petersen
Arpa:  W8SDZ@SIMTEL20.ARPA
uucp:  ...!seismo!SIMTEL20.ARPA!W8SDZ
uucp:  ...!{decvax,unc,hao,cbosgd,seismo,aplvax,uci}!brl-bmd!w8sdz
uucp:  ...!{ihnp4!cbosgd,cmcl2!esquire}!brl-bmd!w8sdz
 3-Sep-85 09:11:45-MDT,1574;000000000000
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Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1985  22:34 MDT
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From: Keith Petersen <W8SDZ@SIMTEL20.ARPA>
To:   Info-Cpm@BRL.ARPA
Subject: MXM-2403 new small 2400 overlay for MEX

In SIMTEL20 directory PD:<CPM.MEX> you'll find MXM2403.AQM,
MXM-2403.DQC, MXO-KP43.AQM, and MXO-TV13.AQM (and temporarily
MXM-2403.LBR which contains all four).

MXM-2403.ASM is version 1.3 of the MEX overlay for external Hayes
Smartmodem 2400's and US Robotics Courier 2400's. NOTE that you will
ALSO need a serial port overlay to use with this one..  Your serial
port overlay should NOT have any dial routine or special code to
support Smartmodems or it will conflict with this overlay. The
MXO-KP43.ASM and MXO-TV13.ASM overlays included in this .LBR file are
examples of "basic" overlays.. (KP43 is for most Kaypro computers and
TV13 for the Televideo TS-802.)

The patch process, if followed as shown in the DOC file, should work
provided you find the proper overlay for your system and assemble them
with ASM or MAC or RMAC or M80.. (Some overlays may not assemble
properly under ASM, read the comments in the overlay...)

Be sure to get the MEX114 version which supports 1k packet mode,
especially important at 2400 baud..

--Keith
 3-Sep-85 09:19:44-MDT,2172;000000000000
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From: Keith Petersen <W8SDZ@SIMTEL20.ARPA>
To:   ProtocolS@rutgers.ARPA, Telecom@mit-mc.ARPA
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Subject: X.PC protocol description available

Now available via anonymous FTP from SIMTEL20:

	Filename		Type	 Bytes	 CRC

Directory MICRO:<CPM.MODEM>
	X-PC.DOC.1		ASCII	127850  34DFH
	X-PC.DQC.2		BINARY	 77056  CA2CH <-same, squeezed

[Keith: which MAY be the same as TYMNET offers as:]

Now available from your local Tymnet sales representative:

X.PC PROTOCOL SPECIFICATIONS                    NPD-269     $3.00    

This specification is published by McDonnell Douglas as a proposal to
designers and implementors of personal computer communications
software and packet network systems.

It defines the formats and procedures at X.PC's packet and data line
layers for Data Terminal Equipment (DTE) and Data Communications
Equipment (DCE).  Both switched virtual call and permanent virtualy
call modes of operation are defined.

This specification covers DTE and DCE operation when a packet switched
network is accessed through a circuit switched or dedicated
connection.  It also includes the additional packet layer procedures
necessary for two DTEs to communicate directly (i.e., without an
intervening packet switched network) over dedicated or circuit
switched connection.

[Keith: this is the much-talked-about "error-free terminal protocol"
now supported by TYMNET.  It is an interesting alternative to
MICROCOM's "MNP" protocol which you must buy a new modem to get (and
which requires the "other end" to also have this type modem).  If we
could get BBN to support the X.PC protocol in the TAC software, we
could have error-free sessions in spite of occasional noise on the
phone lines.]

--Keith
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From: Mike Niswonger <CNISWONGER@SIMTEL20.ARPA>
Subject: CCS 2422 Hangup Fix
To: Info-CPM@AMSAA.ARPA
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           ****  5" / 8" Hangup Fix for CCS 2422  ****

     This information originally compiled by Joe Wright at  Alpha 
Systems - the creator of Z3-Dot-Com.  Joe found the hardware bug, 
and contacted CCS;  they acknowledged that they knew about it and 
took  Joe's  fix.    However,  this  information  never  got  any 
widespread distribution so here it is:

     The  CCS  2422 disk controller has a problem  switching  the 
1Mhz  and 2Mhz oscillator inputs to the WD179X  controller;  this 
appears  to  the user as an occasional lockup of the  board  when 
both  5"  and  8" drives are active.  The only way  out  of  this 
condition  is  to reboot the system (often not a  very  promising 
alternative).  The  problem is that the standard  board  switches 
freqs  on  the wrong edge of the clock.  This can be remedied  as 
follows:
  
     1)  Isolate  the clocks to U38 (pins 3 and 11) so that  they 
are  no  longer clocked by the RCLK signal,  but make  sure  that 
there is still a path to U8 pin 26 from U18 pin 9.  On the Rev  B 
baords  (and possibly others) this can be easily done by  cutting 
an  etch below U38 where the signals to pins 3 and 11 combine and 
go  through the board.   By making the cut at the correct  place, 
you can reduce the number of necessary jumpers to two.

     2)  Run  the  1Mhz signal from U15 pin 12  through  a  spare 
inverter  at U28 pin 9 (or any other spare inverter) and take the 
output from U28 pin 8 to U38 pins 3 and 11 (the clock inputs just 
isolated).

     Since  this mod requires a little cutting and pasting on the 
PC  board,  it is not for the weak at heart,  and  neither  Alpha 
Systems  nor  myself (Mike Niswonger) can be responsible for  any 
damage done to the system by improperly done mods.   This mod has 
been running on at least three systems for anywhere from 2  years 
to 3 months, with no known problems.  

     For further information on CCS S-100 boards,  drop a note to 
CNISWONGERill be glad to share  any  experiences 
both  good  and  bad.   In  addition,  I will try and  act  as  a 
clearinghouse for any other contributed CCS bug notes and  fixes, 
since we seem to have been abandoned by the company.

                                   Mike Niswonger,
                                   CNiswonger@Simtel20
                                   09/02/85
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From:     "Norbert M. Burman" (TBD-PMB-MRL) <burman@BRL-TBD.ARPA>
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Subject:  Re "Hackers"



	"Sticks and stones..........
                         ........but words will never hurt me."
		
                 				  Anon. Hacker


	"A rose by any other name would smell as sweet."	


                                                  William Hacker

	"Who cares what they call it! If it feels good DO IT"
 

		                 		  Me 


                                  
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From: Alan Bomberger <ACB.COR@OFFICE-2.ARPA>
Subject: MIX editor
To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
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Is the MIX editor written in Turbo?  I have a quarrel with whatever medium 
level language it is written in (at least the CP/M implementation).  It seems 
that the stack is mismanaged so that, should your system run with interrupts 
enabled, MIX won't work (and other software using the same language,I assume). 
Seems most likely that the stack pointer is being manipulated via arithmetic 
and that POPd values are assumed to remain valid.  Other possiblity is that 
small stacks are allocated and interrupts cause these to overflow.  Some other 
explanation?  Whatever, MIX is unusable on my system because of interference 
with interrupts.  I am curious what langauge is involved so that I don't waste 
my money buying it.

Other comments about MIX are that it is reasonably powerful.  I got it to 
behave like Magic Wand (my favorite editor) and its macro capability seems very
nice (especially for the price).  It is, however, VERY slow and VERY large 
(medium level languages again).  Even with tons of overlays only a 16K buffer 
is left on my 59K Northstar system (Magic Wand leave over 40K).

I got it because it handles split screens and was programmable.  I will 
probably use it for those tasks that require those features.  Must be a lot 
better with bigger memories and faster CPU's.  Is writing fast, compact, and 
powerful code a lost art?

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From: Rich Kensicki <rhk%harpo.uucp@BRL.ARPA>
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Subject: BSR for S-100
Message-ID: <2773@harpo.UUCP>
Date: 1 Sep 85 01:41:54 GMT
To:       info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA


	The fuzzy database between my ears seems to remember
	someone making an S-100 controller card to operate BSR
	house controllers.

	If this rings a bell with anyone or you know of an
	article to do same please let me know.

	Rich Kensicki
	harpo!rhk
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Subject: Re: Turbo-Kermit on Ampro Little Board
Message-ID: <11200002@ddnt.UUCP>
Date: 1 Sep 85 18:04:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:brl-tgr:-112400:ddnt:11200002:000:408
Nf-From: ddnt!ceb    Sep  1 14:04:00 1985
To:       info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA


The latest release of C-Kermit (4c 57) has been tested on BBN C-70s. A
copy of the C70 binary is available. I am not sure if you can get
the file via anonymous FTP but you can try. The file pathname is:

	/usr/intermet/chbrooks/ck (on DDN2.ARPA)

Remember this is a binary file. Set the FTP options accordingly.
If you want more information contact me via MILNET mail (chbrooks@ddn2
or ceb@ddnt).

			/ceb\
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From: Stuart Freedman <stuart%sesame.uucp@BRL.ARPA>
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Subject: BITNET
Message-ID: <313@sesame.UUCP>
Date: 1 Sep 85 07:12:26 GMT
To:       info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA

BITNET is not a dialup network.  I actually used a BITNET machine in Israel
once; you can talk to the USA in real time from there (you have mail, file
transfer and talk capabilities); it's just that the protocols are different
from the Internet.  BTW, I realize that this is not the place to discuss all
this, but it was brought up here.
-- 
Stuart Freedman		{genrad|ihnp4|ima}!wjh12!talcott!sesame!stuart
Data General Corp.		{cbosgd|harvard}!talcott!sesame!stuart
Westboro, MA			    	    or mit-eddie!futura!stuart

I'm too busy reading other people's cute quotes to think of any of my own.
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From: Bob Clements <clements@BBNCCQ.ARPA>
Subject: Re: BSR for S-100, and non-S-100
To: Rich Kensicki <rhk%harpo.uucp@BRL.ARPA>
Cc: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA, clements@BBNCCQ.ARPA

I think you're right that someone made an S-100 board to operate BSR house
controllers.  I don't remember the details, as I was turned off by the
idea of running 110 volts onto a PC board.

There was also an article by Ciarcia in Byte that described a circuit to
throw ultrasonic pulses at the BSR controller box.

But I think the method of choice now (at least I chose it) is the
Heath GD-1530. It takes an EIA serial line (transmit side only) and
reads commands like "A1<return> AON<return>" to turn on module 1 of house A.

This was not initially the method of choice because it was ridiculously
expensive at $250. But it was reduced to $99 a while ago, which makes it
much more reasonable.  I guess 8748s got cheaper.

/Rcc

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From: "Richard L. Klappal" <rlk%chinet.uucp@BRL.ARPA>
Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm
Subject: Re: cp/m innards
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Date: 2 Sep 85 21:29:38 GMT
To:       info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA

Check out David Cortesi's books --
	Inside CP/M - Holt Rinehart Winston 1982 ISBN 0-03-059558-4
	A Programmer's Notebook - Reston Publ 1983 ISBN 0-8359-5641-5
if you really want legible info on the internals, and hooking to them.
They're deep, but fully cross-referenced and explained.


Richard Klappal

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From: zielinsk@nadc.ARPA
To: clements@bbnccq.ARPA, info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
Subject: BSR controller

Radio Shack has an inexpensive box now which can contol BSR units, but the
software is meant for a Color Computer. It attached via a RS-232 port and
runs independant of the computer except for the setup commands. It also
has backup power.
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From: steve archer <archer%kodak.uucp@BRL.ARPA>
Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm
Subject: CIRA CPM energy audit software
Message-ID: <117@kodak.UUCP>
Date: 3 Sep 85 18:59:29 GMT
Keywords: energy
To:       info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA


Does anyone know how to obtain the CIRA, a microcomputer-based energy
analysis tool for residential applications?  It was developed by
Lawrence Berkeley Labs of Univ. of California.  I have a paper by
R.C. Sonderegger and J. D. Dixon about it.  It was done for the Dept. of Energy.
The enticement is that it was developed for CPM.

steve  {allegra,seismo}!rochester!kodak!archer
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From:  "John C. Klensin" <Klensin@MIT-MULTICS.ARPA>
Subject:  ANSI X3.64
To:  info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
cc:  Ron Fowler <RFOWLER@SIMTEL20.ARPA>
Message-ID:  <850904074449.970167@MIT-MULTICS.ARPA>

This is probably going to contain far more than you wanted to know,
but...

Any ANSI standard can be ordered through ANSI's order department, 1430
Broadway, New York, NY 10018.  I would suggest that you try to get them
on the telephone and get current ordering and price information.  They
tend to want payment in advance, except for ANSI members.  ANSI
standards that have been approved as Federal Info Processing Standards
(FIPS) are often available to government activities through NBS, I
think, and that route might be faster and cheaper.

If I recall, X3.64 is now under revision, partially to move it closer to
an international standard that used it as a starting point and got
ahead.  So you might try to get the name of the corresponding ISO
standard from the order department and order it as well.  The official
name of X3.64, which you may need, is "Additional Controls for Use with
American National Standard Code for Information Interchange".

ANSI standards are not, in general, available in machine readable form.
While most of the technical committees developing the things typically
have them that way, we have been trying intermittently for some years to
get a policy statement from ANSI on the release of machine-readable
copies; none has been forthcoming.

X3.64 is the responsibility of technical committee X3L2, Codes and
Character Sets.  As a last resort, the chair of that committee is Thomas
Hastings of DEC, 617/493-8109 - he would have current status information
on whatever is going on.
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Subject: Little Board Software update
From: Rex Buddenberg <BUDDENBERGRA@USC-ISI.ARPA>
To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
cc: BUDDENBERGRA@USC-ISI.ARPA

For you Little Board owners, AMPRO has a software update on the street.
Terms: Return your original distribution disc and $20.  Ask for Rev-b.
What you get:
	- CPM 2.2 with ZCPR3 installed -- essentially same as what you
have now but more so.
	- All the expected utilities, with some additions.  Unerase, Disk7,
a Termcap, and the ZCPR3 utilities--more...  Rick Conn done right.
	- New modem740.  This one doesn't gobble escape characters
like the last one did...
	- New manual in a binder to match all this.
	- a utility to read/write PCDOS files.  On first cut, can't get
mine to work -- the whole package couldn't be perfect!
	- some shell stuff.  As dyed in wool CPM, I'm not
wild about shells, but a system for Grandpa might benefit.

If you have a Little board more than a couple weeks old, this
is worth it.

Disclaimer: I own (and like) a Little Board.  b
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Subject: CMOS Z80s ?!
To: INFO-CPM@AMSAA.ARPA




Does a 2 MHz, CMOS Z-80 pin-compatable microprocessor chip exist yet ?
If so, who makes it and what is it called ?  Thanks in advance.

Richard Secrist,
SECRIST%OAK.SAInet.MFEnet@LLL-MFE.Arpa

Science Applications Int'l. Corp.
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Date: 3 Sep 85 17:01:41 GMT
To:       info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA

I am not a CP/M expert, but I'm pretty sure I  have seen ZCPR II (I think
II) on an Apple II.  If someone who knows more about it doesn't reply,
send me mail and I'll try to find out the details.

Randy Hendry 			(305) 850-1027
Perkin-Elmer Corporation
MS 795, Southern Development Center
2486 Sand Lake Road, Orlando, FL 32809-7642
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From: "Paul R. Grupp" <GRUPP@MIT-MC.ARPA>
Subject:  Arf arf protection
To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
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Because of all the recent scare of "arf arf", "trojan horse", and "worm"
programs, I offer a secure environment to look at untested software in.
This program is offered in SOURCE only so YOU can see what it does.
Via FTP from SIMTEL20;

Filename			Type	 Bytes	 CRC

Directory MICRO:<CPM.DSKUTL>
READONLY.LBR.1			BINARY	  3072  DFA9H

From the doc file;

... This program will set the disk system in a CP/M Version 2.x
operating system to read/only.  Once this program is executed the
only way to return the disk system to read/write is to do a system
reset (cold boot).  This "safety" is intended to prevent untested
software from changing any data on any disk.  This is useful even
if you know the software under test needs to write to the disk as
you can view the signon, menu, and any prompts until it does try to
write to the disk.  For example, if one of the menu options is to
display a directory, you can suspect that something is wrong if
this option tries to write to instead of read from the disk.  If
(and if when) a program does try to write to the disk a Bdos R/O
error message will be displayed and the program under test aborted.
...
    A more attractive test environment may be achieved with the use
of a ram drive that has a program to "install" itself.  If the
READONLY program is executed before the ram drive install program,
then the ram drive will remain read/write while all the other disk
drives in the system will be read/only protected.  This would allow
programs to write to the ram disk for testing, still protecting
data on the rest of the disks in the system.
...

Live long and prosper \\//
-Paul

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From: BUSSARD@EDWARDS-2060.ARPA
Subject: BSR controller for the S-100
To: kensicki@BRL.ARPA
cc: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA

Some of the literature I have is a bit old, but this is what you saw in the
days of yore...
	Line carrier remote controller
	SciTronics RC-100A 
IEEE-696 computer peripheral controlling BSR X-10 and Leviton commerical 
grade remoter AC line switches.

SciTronics Inc
523 So. Clewell St.
P.O. Box 5344
Bethl, Pa  18015
(215) 868-7220

Cost about $260.00


The second source was the article in the January 1983 issue of Microsystems.
Written by D. M. Gualtieri, box 1021-R, Morristown, NJ 07960. Started on page 
88.


			Buzzzz
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				Sunny, KA6PPP
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Steve,
One of the SIGM volumes has that (or maybe it took two?).  Sorry, no
direct pointers - misplaced my SIGM catalog somewhere in this mess.
SIMTEL20 has it as I recall.  I'll get you better pointers to
the SIGM catalog and specific volume if no one else can help.
Regards,
David Kirschbaum
Toad Hall
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From:     "John R. Anderson" (VLD/ASB) <jra@BRL.ARPA>
To:       info-cpm@BRL.ARPA
Subject:  Intel vs Digital Research Linkers

	I have the Computer Innovations C86 compiler and the Intel Fortran
compiler on a machine running CPM86. My problem is that the C86 compiler
produces object modules for the Digital Research Linker and the Fortran
compiler produces object modules for the Intel linker. The Intel linker
came with the Fortran compiler, but the C86 compiler did not come with
a linker (I didn't expect it to). Now I would like to link C86 programs
with Fortran subroutines. It seems that what I need is some sort of
translator to create Intel-type object modules from Digital Research object
modules. Does such an animal exist?? If so, where might I get it??

	I realize that I can just go out and buy the Digital Research linker,
but that would still leave me with incompatible object modules.

	Another possibility would be a translator from the C86 object modules
to the Intel format object modules. The C86 compiler produces its own variety
of object module, which is then translated to the Digital Research format.

					Thanks,
					John

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Subject: CIRA CPM energy audit software
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I am fairly certain that the energy audit software you seek is on two
sig/m disks of rather recent vintage.
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From: Tom Reid (MS W932) <treid@MITRE-GATEWAY.ARPA>
Subject: Source of WS2ROFF
To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA

Does anyone know of the source or the author of the WS2ROFF.COM file
in the MICRO:<CPM.WSTAR> directory of SIMTEL20?  Know of any others?
Tom.

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From: Chuck McManis <cem%intelca.uucp@BRL.ARPA>
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Subject: Re: Re: Prgrmr nds HELP!
Message-ID: <55@intelca.UUCP>
Date: 4 Sep 85 19:21:33 GMT
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> Thanks for your response, but I think you missed the point.  I want 
> the
> program and its data files to be renamable.  Then the .COM file will find the
> data files by looking for the extensions (which remain constant) with the 
> same
> name as the .COM file.  And at 080H there is definitely no file name, 
> just the
> command tail.
> 
> If you know where the command name/FCB/File-name-as-typed-in is stored
> , or how
> to find it, please drop me a note.
> 

One of the nice things about ZCPR3 is that it leaves the command name
in the EXTFCB address. I suspect the information in a vanilla system
is stored somewhere in the CCP. (Try looking at the first page) most
of the buffers are up there.
--Chuck

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From: Chuck McManis <cem%intelca.uucp@BRL.ARPA>
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Subject: Re: cp/m innards
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Date: 4 Sep 85 19:29:31 GMT
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> At the risk of sending incredibly green (which i am), could someone
> recommend a book on CP/M?  Of all that i could find @ my friendly local
> B.Dalton, *Soul of CP/M* by Waite & LaFore seemed to have the best balance
> of detail vs. plain language (cursory inspection, no purchase - yet).  Is
> there anything better that won't put me to sleep?  Thanks Ahead.      der
> -------

Top three (in my personal opinion of course)

"The CP/M Programmers Handbook" by Andy Johnson-Laird 
"Inside CP/M" by Cortesi
"CP/M Users Guide" 3rd Ed. Pub by Osborne/McGraw-Hill

--Chuck
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Hi,

Does anybody out there have any information regarding the

            NCR Decision Mate V and Communications ?

Is there a Kermit available MS-DOS or CP/M ?
Modem7 or anything else ?

Does anybody have the port adresses ?

Thanks,
el

Eberhard W. Lisse <zdv626%djukfa11.bitnet@wiscvm.arpa>

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From:  "John C. Klensin" <Klensin@MIT-MULTICS.ARPA>
Subject:  Intel vs. Digital Research Linkers
To:  "John R. Anderson" <jra@BRL.ARPA>, info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
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Actually, while I have never had an occasion to try the experiment, it
looks from the manual as if the DRI linker (LINK86) is able to handle
both DRI and (at least some) Intel formats.
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The most recent release of C86 includes the DR linker.  If you send in for
an update you should be all set.

Hubert Daugherty
hd@rice.arpa

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Subject: Re: Re: Prgrmr nds HELP!
Message-ID: <55@intelca.UUCP>
Date: 4 Sep 85 19:21:33 GMT
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> Thanks for your response, but I think you missed the point.  I want 
> the
> program and its data files to be renamable.  Then the .COM file will find the
> data files by looking for the extensions (which remain constant) with the 
> same
> name as the .COM file.  And at 080H there is definitely no file name, 
> just the
> command tail.
> 
> If you know where the command name/FCB/File-name-as-typed-in is stored
> , or how
> to find it, please drop me a note.
> 

One of the nice things about ZCPR3 is that it leaves the command name
in the EXTFCB address. I suspect the information in a vanilla system
is stored somewhere in the CCP. (Try looking at the first page) most
of the buffers are up there.
--Chuck

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Subject: Network Software for CP/M 3
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Anybody know of networking software for CP/M 3.0 systems?

If not, is there any alternative to DR's CP/NET for CP/M 2.2?

Thanks...
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From: "Paul R. Grupp" <GRUPP@MIT-MC.ARPA>
Subject:  How to defeat a read-only filesystem
To: burton.osbunorth@XEROX.ARPA
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    From: burton.osbunorth at Xerox.ARPA
    Re:   How to defeat a read-only filesystem

    While I haven't yet looked at your program that sets a hard disk file
    system to read-only status, it seems that its function could be defeated
    by Trojan Horse programs that do a disk reset prior to doing their
    dirty work.  

NOT true!  This program REMOVES some of the BIOS write code, so unless
the "trojan horse" knew what bios you had and what address it was
running at, could not replace it.  The ONLY thing that will restore
your os to R/W is a COLD boot, not even a warm boot as this only
restores the Bdos and CCP.

    As the military does, the only true security is physical separation.

True, but with source to your os and some patches you can do almost as well.
My system allows me to trap any given track(s) and A) abort B) allow to
proceed C) devert to log file.  Of course this is of no help if it is
a multi-user system and someone else gets in to do the dammage.

    Phil Burton
    Xerox Corp.

If anyone after reading the DOC and ASM file thinks there are holes
in this program, I would love to hear from you.  Most of the replies
I've gotten so far are from people that didn't look at the files and
jumped to conclusions about what this program does.  There ARE more
elegant ways of creating protection, but none SO simple and also not
possible to create a generic version that would run on ALL 2.x
systems.  This program was created for all those people that don't
have source to their os, or that may not be able to patch it themself
if they did.

-Paul

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Subject: Arf Arf protection
From: Rex Buddenberg <BUDDENBERGRA@USC-ISI.ARPA>
To: grupp@MIT-MC.ARPA
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This is great.  I've seen (and passed by a lot more) a lot of bellyaching
on the net about the subject.  Those who say it can't be done need to
stay the hell out of the way of those who are doing it.
Keep up the good work, Paul.
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From: Rick Conn <RCONN@SIMTEL20.ARPA>
Subject: Re: ZCPR on Apple II?
To: randy%peora.uucp@BRL.ARPA
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ZCPR3 is on the Apple II, if you are interested.  You can contact Z-Node
Central for a copy of the installation.  This is an electronic bulletin
board.  Number: 415-489-9005.  I'm not sure WHAT Apple II the installation
is for.  You can leave a message and ask if you have more questions.

	Rick
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From: Bill.von.Hagen@CMU-EE-GAUSS.ARPA
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Subject: HELP!!!!! with LYNC terminal program
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I have been doing some work for a friend who bought a NEC 8001 (?) cpm
system second hand, complete with software and no manuals.  I've been using
the LYNC terminal program to talk to Unix VAxen, but really need some file
transfer (and wholly functional terminal emulation) capabilities.  Could
someone out there help me with lync information?  I've banged on control
keys till my fingers are numb, but haven't discovered how to get through to
any configuration/file transfer menu's.  Right now, I don't even know what
it's trying to emulate !!!! Even the address of whoever sells lync would be
a huge help.

				THANKS !!!!

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From: Joe Smith <G.JOESMITH@SU-SCORE.ARPA>
Subject: Portable PCs with internal modems vs public telephones.
To: INFO-CPM@AMSAA.ARPA, INFO-MICRO@BRL-VGR.ARPA, EIBEN@DEC-MARLBORO.ARPA
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Having a portable computer with a direct-connect internal modem is really
great - until you try to use it at a pay phone in the airport.  The modular
jack does not connect to public telephones.

I found one device that overcomes this problem (and it needs to be advertized
more).  It is the acoustic adapter that 3M sells with their WhisperWriter
portable terminals.

	Model 1490 acoustic coupler connects the 3M teleprinter to
	public phone lines through a telephone handset.  It is
	recommended for applications where direct connection to
	phone lines is either nott practical or not desirable.

The device consists of a pair of rubber cups, a modular jack, and a battery
powerred audio amplifier set.  You simply run a 3-foot modular line from it
to your PC, and put the pay telephone's handset in it.  Price is less than
$80, it works with 300 and 1200 baud internal modems, and should work at 2400.

In the Silcon Valley, the distributer is 3M Data Systems (408)866-8811.
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From: Chuck McManis <cem%intelca.uucp@BRL.ARPA>
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Subject: Re: CMOS Z80s ?!
Message-ID: <60@intelca.UUCP>
Date: 6 Sep 85 15:25:00 GMT
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> Does a 2 MHz, CMOS Z-80 pin-compatable microprocessor chip exist yet ?
> If so, who makes it and what is it called ?  Thanks in advance.

Yes, its called a Z80 and you can get one from Toshiba. Look in the
latest EDN or Elect. Design. Some other japanese company is supposed to 
have a 4MHZ version out too. Also I believe Nat'l NSC-800 is cmos but 
don't know if it is pin compatible.

--Chuck
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Thanks.

Kevin Rappold
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FT Gordon, GA
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Thanks.

Kevin Rappold
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From: Herb Lin <LIN@MIT-MC.ARPA>
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Are there currently facilities that will allow the running without
modification of CPM-80 programs on an IBM AT or XT?

Pls reply directly to me.

Will summarize if appropriate.

herb

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From: Keith Petersen <W8SDZ@SIMTEL20.ARPA>
To:   Info-Cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
Subject: New overlay list for MODEM7/MDM7/MODM7

Here is the latest list of known overlays for MODEM7/MDM7/MODM7.  Many
of these are available from SIMTEL20.  If you are unable to access
Simtel-20 because of network restrictions please remember that MOST of
the new files announced to Info-Cpm are also available on my RCPM
Royal Oak (MI) which may be accessed at 300 baud using the 103a modem
mode or 1200 baud using either the 212a or Vadic 3400 modes.  The
telephone number is (313) 759-6569.

--Keith Petersen
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MDM7xx Overlay list as of 7/06/85

       Rev. 2.6    Dennis Recla

Locate your computer system in the list to find the proper overlay
to use with the various versions of MDM7xx.

                        MDM7xx Overlay Name
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Preferred Vers.          Computer Description	        Output Device
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M7SS11-1.ASM		Advanced Digital Super Sixer
M7ALSPA .ASM 		Alspa Z-NET Computer
M7ABC-1 .ASM	*	Archives Business Computer
M7AC+4  .ASM		AppleCat II Overlay
M7ACE-1 .ASM		Franklin ACE Overlay
MDM7ADDS.ASM		ADDS Multivision overlay
M7AJ-1  .ASM		Apple J-Cat Overlay
M7AL5-1 .ASM		Altos Series 5 Overlay
M7AL8-1 .ASM		Altos Series 8000 Overlay
M7AM-1  .ASM		Apple W/MTN. Comp. CPS
M7AP+5  .ASM		Apple II overlay
M7AQ-3  .ASM		Apple with MicroModem
M7ATR-1 .ASM		ATR8000 CP/M Interface for Atari
M7MM+4  .ASM		Apple with MicroModem II
M7LB-3  .ASM	*	Ampro Little Board
MDM712BB.ASM		Big Board I
M7C3-2  .ASM		CP/M 3.0 AUX DEV  Overlay
M7CD-1  .ASM		Cromemco TUART @50 hex			TUART
M7-2710 .ASM     	Calif. Comp. 2710 board		 	8250
M7-2719 .ASM 		Calif. Comp. 2719 board			SIO
M7-2830 .ASM		Calif. Comp. 2830 dart board
MDM7DB  .ASM		Dynabyte Serial port 1
M7DP-1  .ASM		DataPoint 1560 Overlay
MDM7DUR .ASM		Durango series ovelay
M7EP-2  .ASM		Epson QX-10 overlay
M7QX@3  .ASM		Epson QX-10 & VLADOCS 1.1
M7EGL-1 .ASM		Eagle II and III overlay
M7GP-1  .ASM		General Purpose overlay
M7H8-6  .ASM		Heath/Zenith 89 overlay			8250
M7H82661.ASM		Heath/Zenith 89 with 2661		2661
M7HP-1  .ASM		Hewlett Packard 125
M7HZ-1  .ASM		Heath/Zenith 100 overlay 		2661
M7IB7000.ASM		Ibex Mdl 7000,7001,7101 With 8251       8251
M7IB7XXX.ASM		Ibex Mdl 7102 With Z80-SIO		SIO
M7IM-2  .ASM		IMS 5000 series overlay
M7IN-3  .ASM		Interfacer 3/4 overlay			SIO
M7ISB-1 .ASM   		Intertec Super Brain Overlay
M7KP-2  .ASM		Kaypro overlay				SIO
M7JE-1  .ASM		Jonas Escort Overlay
M7L0-2  .ASM		Lobo Max-80 overlay
M7MAX-1 .ASM		Maxicom with AP board
M7MD-1  .ASM		Morrow MD I & II overlay		8251
M7MD11  .ASM		Morrow MD 11 overlay
M7MDX-2 .ASM		Mostek MDX-SIO  STD board		SIO
M7MFIO-2.ASM		Electrologics MFIO Board
MDM7MIO .ASM		Intersystems MIO board @80hex
M7MM-1  .ASM		Morrow Multi I/O overlay
M7MOL-2 .ASM		Molecular Super Micro
M7NA-3  .ASM		North Star Advantage overlay
M7NC-1  .ASM		NCR Decision Mate V overlay
M7NE-1  .ASM		NEC PC-8001 overlay
M7NH-2  .ASM		North Star Horizon w/HSIO-4  		HSIO
M7NS-2  .ASM	   	North Star Horizon port B
M7NSP-1 .ASM		National Semi. Starplex
MDM7NT  .ASM		Northern Telecom system
M7-SCAT .ASM		Novation SMART CAT overlay
M7OA-1  .ASM		Otrona Attache overlay
M7OS-2  .ASM		Osborne overlay ext. modem
M7OS-1NE.ASM		with Nuevo Eq. 80 Col. card
M7OSCP-5.ASM		Osborne with Internal modem
M7OSVX  .ASM	*	Osborne VIXEN (MDM740 only)
M7OX-1  .ASM		Osborne Executive overlay		SIO
M7P1-1  .ASM		PMC Micromate 101
M7PC-1  .ASM		IBM with Baby Blue Z-80
M7PM-1  .ASM		PMMI S-100 Overlay
M7PP-2  .ASM		Pied Piper Overlay	
MDM7QUAY.ASM		Quay Series
M7R1-3  .ASM		TRS-80 Model I
M7R2-2  .ASM		TRS-80 Model II				SIO
M7R3-1  .ASM		TRS-80 Model III
M7R4-7  .ASM	*	TRS-80 Model IV 
M7RSCP+ .ASM		TRS-80 Model IV CP/M+
M7RV-2  .ASM	  	Racal Vadic VA212PA & 3451
M7SBC-1 .ASM		Superbrain Compustar overlay
M7SD-1  .ASM		SD Systems SD200
MDM7SOL .ASM		Processor Tech. SOL overlay
M7SSM-2 .ASM		SSM I/O Board Overlay
M7SY-3  .ASM		Sanyo MBC-1000 Overlay			8251
M7S1-1  .ASM		Sanyo MBC-1100 overlay			8251
M7TT-2  .ASM		Teletek Systemaster S.B.C.
M7TV-7  .ASM		Televideo TS-802 & 803 overlay
M7US-2  .ASM		U.S. Robotics S-100 board
M7VG-1  .ASM		Vector Graphics 3 & 4
M7VIO-2 .ASM	*	Ithaca VIO board w/2651			SIO
M7VT-5  .ASM	*	DEC Vt-180/Rainbow overlay
M7XE-1  .ASM		Xerox 820 overlay
M7XSMB-1.ASM		Xitan SMB board w/6850
M7ZB-2  .ASM		Telcon Zorba overlay

* New with this update

The overlay file on the left is the prefered version for the various MDM7
overlays.  Usually the difference means the the SET command is active and
will allow for changing the Baud rate from the modem program and not have
to use an external 'SETUP' programs.

Be sure that when you use DDT to overlay the proper HEX file on the various
MDM7xx.COM programs that you SAVE the proper amount of Memory to the .COM
file.  As MDM7xx has grown the SAVE size has also increased, so don't use
the SAVE size in the overlay unless you are using it on the the identified
MDM7xx program.  Best bet is to use MLOAD.COM and not worry about how much
to save.     
                    Good luck with your overlay..

If there are any NEW computer or S-100 board MDM7xx overlays not on this
list please upload them to Dave Crane's RCP/M (214-931-8274) or to the
Technical CBBS (313-846-6127) for inclusion in this list or contact me
on my up and down Lost Island RCP/M-RBBS at (214-681-4789  300/1200)
Best time is 8am to 5pm and catch as you can from 5pm to 11pm CST.

Dennis Recla
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Subject:  Help! Problem with Diskette Drive
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I am having a problem with one of my diskette drives, a Teac SSDD drive
on my VT180 (Robin).  Running CP/M, and trying to type a file on a
diskette in the drive, it seeks to the directory fine, then starts
typing the file, but when it is time to advance to track 1 it doesn't --
it appears locked.  It makes clicking noises without advancing until
CP/M gives up and gives me a BDOS error.  I hope its a simple adjustment
(I've used the drives for a couple of years without touching them) but
can someone tell me what?  Reply directly to Bakin -at mit-multics.arpa
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From: Rick Bensene <rickb%tekig4.uucp@BRL.ARPA>
Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm
Subject: Re: BSR controller
Message-ID: <242@tekig4.UUCP>
Date: 6 Sep 85 18:25:26 GMT
To:       info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA

> Radio Shack has an inexpensive box now which can contol BSR units, but the
> software is meant for a Color Computer. It attached via a RS-232 port and
                                                            ^^^^^^
> runs independant of the computer except for the setup commands. It also
> has backup power.

INCORRECT!   The unit from Radio Shack is *NOT* controlled by an RS232
port!  The unit connects to the  Color Computer's CASSETTE TAPE interface,
and there is *NO* documentation on how the CoCo communicates with
the box.  Th link is bi-directional, meaning the controller box
can download it's contents to the CoCo for updating, and once
finished, the CoCo uploads the updated information back into the
controller.  Once the controller has been programmed with events
it may be disconncted from the CoCo and runs by itself.  I recently
purchased one of these, and while the software supplied with it
(in CoCo ROMPack form) is cute (graphic oriented), it's tedious and
slow to use.  If anyone out there has **ANY** information on how
this beastie communicates with the  CoCo, I'd really appreciate
hearing from you.


-----------
Rick Bensene
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US Mail: Tektronix, Inc. - P.O. Box 500, Mail Stop 39-170 - Beaverton,
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DEAR NETLANDIANS

	MY WIFE IS PUTTING OUT A LITTLE (5-10 PAGE) NEWSPAPER TO THE PARENTS
OF THE SCHOOL MY KIDS GOTO TO PROVIDE INFO,BEG FOR HELP ETC. MY QUESTION IS
'DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A TEXT PROC. PROGRAM WHICH WILL ALLOW TEXT TO BE FORMATTED
INTO SEVERAL COLUMNS ON THE SAME PAGE???'. THIS PROGRAM WOULD IDEALY BE FREE AS THE SCHOOL HAS 0-DOLLARS TO SPEND ON THIS "SORT OF STUFF"!


				MIKE WEBB
				WEBB@LLL-MFE.ARPA
				
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Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm
Subject: Re: BSR controller
Message-ID: <330@ihlpl.UUCP>
Date: 6 Sep 85 20:43:01 GMT
To:       info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA

> Radio Shack has an inexpensive box now which can contol BSR units, but the
> software is meant for a Color Computer. It attached via a RS-232 port and
> runs independant of the computer except for the setup commands. It also
> has backup power.

Sorry, I checked this out this weekend when the Radio-Shack box went on
sale.  It interfaces to the Color computer through the cassette
interface.  It undoubtably could be made to work with other computers, but
it would not be a trivial task.

Peter Fales
...ihnp4!ihlpl!psfales
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<Date: 05 Sep 85 16:59:21 PDT (Thu) 
<From: Ira Baxter
<baxter@uci-icsd.ARPA> 
<To: info-CPM%AMSAA.ARPA@uci-icsd.ARPA
<Subject: Network Software for CP/M 3 
<Munged: from uci-icsd; 06 Sep 85 04:33:15 PDT (Fri) 
<Anybody know of networking software for CP/M 3.0 systems?  

<If not, is there any alternative to DR's CP/NET for
CP/M 2.2?  
<Thanks...  

I've heard that PC/NOS (Applied Intelligence, Mountain View CA) is
compatible with CP/M, MS-DOS and maybe Unix.  It is a superset of
the IBM/Sytek product.

L. Traister (LMTRA@SRI.arpa)
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Subject: Re: CMOS Z80s ?!
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Date: 9 Sep 85 23:23:20 GMT
To:       info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA



Zilog now has a CMOS Z-80 pin and function compatable. It is
called the Z84C00 and Z84C00-4 for Z-80 and Z-80A replacements,
respectively.  Icc is 25mA @ 4 Mhz and 10uA @ DC.. Quite a 
difference!  

                                  Charles Lord
                                  Triangle R&D Corp. (NC)
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From: Robert Bloom AMSTE-TOI 3775 <rbloom@apg-1.ARPA>
Subject: Re: Info(S-100) on Seattle 16K Plus,PMMI MM-103 program
In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 9 Sep 85 20:57:45 PDT
To: crash!kevinb@SDCSVAX.ARPA
Cc: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA

I don't know that much on the mm-103 but I do know the horizon.
The boot prom is addressed at e800 and takes 1k only.  There is
a prom set floating around that is addressed at fc00 - i'm sure a
request to the net for on would bring a response.  With phathomed
RAM, and the latest copy of northstar cp/m, a 60k system is possible.
(If you want more details - ask.)  with the fc00 prom one can get a
63k system.

-bob bloom

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Subject: Info(S-100) on Seattle 16K Plus,PMMI MM-103 program
Cc: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA, BUDDENBERGRA@USC-ISI.ARPA, crash!kevinb@SDCSVAX.ARPA

I am seeking information and schematics on the Seattle Computer Products
SCP-16K Static RAM Board. I already know about how to address it, but would
like more info on the "bank" switches and the jumper at location V, also.

I am also looking for an explanation of what the jumpers on the Imsai SIO board
do. I would love to upgrade my speed on ser port a to 9600 baud +, and info on
the ser port b would be verrry handy indeed, for modem uses.

Further, I can't seem to get a program that will work on a PMMI MM-103. Any 
help on what the DIP switches on it do, and how to configure, for example,
MDM7, would be handy. I would love a chance to get a program that works on
a system using the SS NorthStar floppy drive system. I would be more than
willing to discuss buying/sending out a floppy to get the info copied onto.
Also, any suggestions on how to expand my CP/M to handle 52 to 56K. I seem
to be able to go to 52K, but I am not sure if the 56K interferes with the PMMI.
Expanding to 60K seems impossible, as the N* Disk controller starts at E000,
going through at least E900. Any ideas out there?

			Thanks in advance,

Kevin J. Belles - UUCP {ihnp4,cbosgd,sdcsvax,noscvax}crash!kevinb
~~~~~ ~~ ~~~~~~ - ARPA crash!kevinb@{ucsd,nosc}.ARPA
"All that we see and seem is but a dream within a dream"

P.S. Any Imsais running out there - what kind of system are you running, using
what? We wanna know.... KjB

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Summary:
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        Can someone *please* post this to us poor deprived
        Europeans!
-- 
        Peter Kendell <pete@stc.UUCP>

        ...mcvax!ukc!stc!pete

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From: Bob Halloran <bobh%pedsgd.uucp@BRL.ARPA>
Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm
Subject: Re: BSR controller
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Date: 9 Sep 85 12:46:36 GMT
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In article <330@ihlpl.UUCP> psfales@ihlpl.UUCP (Peter Fales) writes:
>> Radio Shack has an inexpensive box now which can contol BSR units, but the
>> software is meant for a Color Computer. It attached via a RS-232 port and
>> runs independant of the computer except for the setup commands. It also
>> has backup power.
>
>Sorry, I checked this out this weekend when the Radio-Shack box went on
>sale.  It interfaces to the Color computer through the cassette
>interface.  It undoubtably could be made to work with other computers, but
>it would not be a trivial task.
>
>Peter Fales
>...ihnp4!ihlpl!psfales

Heathkit sells the 'official' RS-232 BSR controller (feed at 110-2400 baud)
for $99.95.  They apparently include driver software for CP/M.

						Bob Halloran
						Sr MTS, Perkin-Elmer DSG
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From: Keith Petersen <W8SDZ@SIMTEL20.ARPA>
To:   Info-Cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
Subject: XMODEM version 11.7 now available

The latest version of XMODEM is now available from SIMTEL20 as:

Filename                        Type     Bytes   CRC

Directory MICRO:<CPM.RCPM>
XMDM117.LBR.1                   BINARY  102656  24A5H

XMODEM is a program which runs on a RCPM system to allow a remote user
to transfer files to or from it.

Updates and revisions (in reverse order)

v11.7 09/08/85 - Added patch so MBBS used to enter upload descriptions
into message file. (MBYE40 and MBBS40 needed for this.)  Also added
Murray Simsolo's XMDM116.FIX and a variation of Mark Motley's fix to
clear the WRTLOC flag when the "help" message is displayed so the user
can abort it and his TOSEXIT equate to make the TOS display on exit an
option.. Also fixed so that instead of time on system being reset, max
time allowed on is adjusted instead if a user uploads a file. Added
LOGSYS equate to pick the old LOG.SYS filename as new MBBS will work
with XMODEM.LOG as well as LOG.SYS now.. Added DWNTAG option so files
tagged with "F3" status attribute can be downloaded regardless of
access privileges. Fixed bugs introduced into v11.6 by Paul Trania (he
eliminated needed WRTLOC clear in DESCRIB optional code). NOTE: Read
MURPHY'S LAWS re: computer program bug fixes. (IF NOT TURKEY)
(Although I didn't like all of Steve's "fixes", I was trying to
integrate his updates with John Hoffman.  The old NOT X and NOT Y
might have been more confusing than NOT (X or Y) but either works...
But (NOT X or Y) is NOT the same thing.. Changed OK2400 comments to
reflect change in code by pst..) Added code so ^X, pause, ^X will
abort an upload. -- Kim Levitt

v11.6 - 08/11/85 - Fixed bugs introduced between 112 and 115. Added
Kevin Murphy's changes to allow BYEBDOS systems to gain time on system
(note: must be using BYE338 for this to work properly.  If you're
running BYE337, please upgrade to v338, as v338 corresponds to the
documentation and changes the way one BYEBDOS call function works).
-- pst

v11.5 - 08/10-85 - Fixed a bug in the "turkey patch" that could cause
double entries in the log file for uploads or worse. Also, eliminated
"thru packet " in message to console that is unnecessary and was
leaving last packet number on console screen at end of downloads if a
file is sent which requires small packets at the end. Also I fixed the
version number. (this is #11.5 not 1.15 or 115) Incorporated code from
John Hoffman's 11.3 update and Steve Sanders' 11.4 update to bring out
one version with all bugs fixed and features together again (I hope).
Made some of Steve's feature patches optional. (DSPFNAM for display
file name option, MBYE37 equate renamed to MBYETOS.)  --Kim Levitt

v11.4 - 08/10/85 - Steve Sanders' version. (Did not include v11.3
updates.)  LUXMOD equate added so XMODEM can be configured to work as
a LUXMODEM program. XM-FNAM2.ADD patch added to display selected file
name on downloads and uploads so user can verify system didn't get
garbage for the filename. Fixed TAGLBR option to work correctly.
Misc. clean up and changes.  -- Steve Sanders

More history is available in XMDM117.UPD which is incide the LBR.

--Keith Petersen
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From: Herb Lin <LIN@MIT-MC.ARPA>
Subject:  repair help needed...
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I have a Morrow hard disk, based on a Fujitsu 20 MB drive, that has
stopped rotating.  Anyone know where I might be able to get it fixed?

all suggestions gratefully accepted.

herb lin

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From: Keith Petersen <W8SDZ@SIMTEL20.ARPA>
To:   crash!kevinb@SDCSVAX.ARPA
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Subject: Info(S-100) on Seattle 16K Plus,PMMI MM-103 program
In-reply-to: Msg of 9 Sep 1985  21:57-MDT from crash!kevinb at SDCSVAX.ARPA

Kevin, the MM103 modem cannot be used at the usual port C0h when used
with a Horizon.  Reason: the mother board uses that address for other
purposes, usually for RAM parity control.  Most people change the
MM103 to port D0h or B0h.

There are overlays for MEX and MODM700 for using the PMMI.  They are
complete with dialing routines.

--Keith
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To: "Webb Mike"@LLL-MFE.ARPA
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In-Reply-To: The message of Sun, 8 Sep 85 16:57 PDT from "Webb Mike"@LLL-MFE.ARPA

Mike, et al,

I have a little program, DBLPRINT.COM (and accompanying DBLPRINT.HLP)
that works just fine on a CP/M 2.2 system.  Cannot remember just where I
found it - doesn't seem to be in the SIGM archives (didn't see it anyway),
but fur shur is Public Domain.

I do NOT have source code, so no mods possible (very easily).  Glad to upload
it to where you can reach it if you like.  If they're doing Apples or PC's,
tho, we're out of luck with this program.

Regards,
David Kirschbaum
Toad Hall
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From: Rick Conn <RCONN@SIMTEL20.ARPA>
Subject: Z3NEWS Updates
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In PD:<CPM.ZCPR3> and PD:<CPM.Z3NEW>:
	Z3NEWS.3Q1, Z3NEWS.3Q2, Z3NEWS.3Q3 - Z-System newsletters
in squeezed form

In PD:<CPM.Z3NEW>:
	Z3NEWS.301, Z3NEWS.302, Z3NEWS.303 - Z-System newsletters as text

		Rick
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>ABN.ISCAMS at USC-ISID.ARPA writes:
>I have a little program, DBLPRINT.COM (and accompanying DBLPRINT.HLP)
>that works just fine on a CP/M 2.2 system.  Cannot remember just where I
>found it - doesn't seem to be in the SIGM archives (didn't see it anyway),
>but fur shur is Public Domain.

>I do NOT have source code, so no mods possible (very easily).  Glad to upload
>it to where you can reach it if you like.  If they're doing Apples or PC's,
>tho, we're out of luck with this program.

This program is probably the one you're looking for:

Filename                        Type     Bytes   CRC

SIMTEL20 directory MICRO:<CPM.LIST>
DBL211.LBR.1                    BINARY   11392  B121H

--Keith
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From: Rick Conn <RCONN@SIMTEL20.ARPA>
Subject: HD64180 update
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In MICRO:<CPM.GENDOC>:
	HD64180.WQ

In MICRO:<CPM.Z3NEW>:
	HD64180.WQ, HD64180.WS

	This is Rev 2 of my HD64180 document.  The old version has
been deleted.

		Rick
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Subject: XMDM117 bug fix

There is a small bug in XMDM117 (XMODEM ver. 11.7) recently announced
to the net.  A fix for it is available in:

Filename			Type	 Bytes	 CRC

Directory MICRO:<CPM.RCPM>
XMDM117.BUG.1			ASCII	   890  B2FCH

--Keith
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... have been renated to HD64180.WS2 and HD64180.WQ2 as per Keith's
suggestion.  This will reduce confusion on the RCP/M circuit.
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    info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA

Correction, I meant port E0, not address E000.

Kevin J. Belles - UUCP {ihnp4,cbosgd,sdcsvax,noscvax}crash!kevinb
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Correction, I meant port E0, not address E000.

Kevin J. Belles - UUCP {ihnp4,cbosgd,sdcsvax,noscvax}crash!kevinb
~~~~~ ~~ ~~~~~~ - ARPA crash!kevinb@{ucsd,nosc}.ARPA

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Thanks for the info, my documentation is more than a little confusing on
the DIP settings. Mine are arranged as in the following illus.:

		1 2 3 4 5 6 
		o o o O O O
		- - - - - -
		O O O o o o
		---OPEN----

where O is down, o is up.

I assume that this is the address E000. Am I right?
Also, are you aware of any schematics for the auxilary interface for this?
I'm interested in trying out a scheme for power-up on phone ring, answer.
This would be for a small remote system I have in mind, otherwise I would
just leave it running 24hrs/day, or so.


Kevin J. Belles - UUCP {ihnp4,cbosgd,sdcsvax,noscvax}crash!kevinb
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> INCORRECT!   The unit from Radio Shack is *NOT* controlled by an RS232
> port!  The unit connects to the  Color Computer's CASSETTE TAPE interface,
> and there is *NO* documentation on how the CoCo communicates with
> the box.  Th link is bi-directional, meaning the controller box
> can download it's contents to the CoCo for updating, and once
> finished, the CoCo uploads the updated information back into the
> controller.  Once the controller has been programmed with events
> it may be disconncted from the CoCo and runs by itself.  I recently
> purchased one of these, and while the software supplied with it
> (in CoCo ROMPack form) is cute (graphic oriented), it's tedious and
> slow to use.  If anyone out there has **ANY** information on how
> this beastie communicates with the  CoCo, I'd really appreciate
> hearing from you.
> 
>
The exact details are available from the CoCo "Service Manual" (the little
green book) at most RS stores.  Unfortunately, the Cassete port is just
an "analogue switch",  The usual format is KC-1200 format.
   |<1>|<-0->|
    _   __      
___| | |  |  |       (the logical 1,0 may be opposite)
     |_|  |__| 

If regular BASIC cassette I/O commands work or there examples of it
in the owners manual, then this will work.  A line reciever can be
built using an op-amp.

They may have used the Cassette Port because of certain hardware advantages.
(Basic can't write to the RS-232 port,only "Dload")

If they wrote their own interface in ML, it's anybody's guess.
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Subject: Re: NEWS PAPER STUFF
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Date: 11 Sep 85 21:00:06 GMT
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To:       info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA

In article <1383@brl-tgr.ARPA> Webb Mike@LLL-MFE.ARPA writes:
>
>DEAR NETLANDIANS
>
>	MY WIFE IS PUTTING OUT A LITTLE (5-10 PAGE) NEWSPAPER TO THE PARENTS
>OF THE SCHOOL MY KIDS GOTO TO PROVIDE INFO,BEG FOR HELP ETC. MY QUESTION IS
>'DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A TEXT PROC. PROGRAM WHICH WILL ALLOW TEXT TO BE FORMATTED
>INTO SEVERAL COLUMNS ON THE SAME PAGE???'. THIS PROGRAM WOULD IDEALY BE FREE AS THE SCHOOL HAS 0-DOLLARS TO SPEND ON THIS "SORT OF STUFF"!
>
>
>				MIKE WEBB
>				WEBB@LLL-MFE.ARPA
>				

Assuming you have access to CPM/[MS|PC]DOS machines, the current versions
of Wordstar(tm) support a "column move" capability.  Not very convenient,
but it can be made to work.

1:	Format the text to the width of a column.
2:	Change to Column move mode -- ^K^N
3:	mark the top left corner of the text that is to go in the second
	column.		^K^B
4:	mark the bottom right corner of the '2nd' column text.	^K^K
	(The block of text should now be highlighted (or have ^B down
	the left and ^K down the right, depending on your hardware.)
5:	place the cursor at the top left corner of the 2nd column
	destination area
6:	execute the move	^K^V

7:	delete the blank lines left in the source area.

8:	repeat steps 3..7 as needed for additional columns.
9:	Save your stuff regularly.  This procedure crashes WS with some
	regularity on my Kaypro (WS Ver 3.something); problem may be
	resolved if later releases are out.
10:	DO NOT USE JUSTIFIED PRINTING IF YOUR PRINTER ATTEMPTS TO
	MICRO-JUSTIFY THE LINES.

Off hand, the only other solution (inexpensive!) might be to find
a second hand dedicated word processor someone might be willing to
donate.  (I know Phillips Micom 2000's supportted automatic
multicolumn formatting, and XEROX 860s are (were) supposed to but
I never used it there.  The other 10-15 dedicated wp's I used to
have access to couldn't do it.)

I'm not familiar with any of the other WP programs in the cpm/ms/pcdos
area.  I never found any of them to have enough improvement, if any,
over WS to be worth the cost/effort to learn another.

In the UN*X area, Fortune's FORTUNE:WORD (tm) has auto multicolumn
capability, but from what you indicated, it would be too expensive,
unless you could get a donation.
PS:	the ^K^B^N stuff is <CTRL>k , etc. in case your not familiar
	with this notation.


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Subject: New MEX overlay for Heath H89 available

Now available from SIMTEL20:

Filename			Type	 Bytes	 CRC

Directory MICRO:<CPM.MEX>
MXO-H815.AQM.1			BINARY	 14464  6829H

This is a MEX overlay for the Heath H89 with either 8250 or 2661-3
UART.  It has an expanded SET command to set parity, stopbits and word
length.  If you use a smartmodem it also sets ANSWER/ORIGINATE mode,
TONE/PULSE, and delay until "hangup" (0-30 seconds).  It will SET baud
rates from 300 to 9600.

--Keith
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My father wants to join the net, but only has a CP/M box (he has MS-DOS
too, but that is a piddling machine).  Anyway, I would like a pointer to
the source for uucp for cp/m.  Thanks in advance.

David C. Martin
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From: Chuck McManis <cem%intelca.uucp@BRL.ARPA>
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Subject: Re: CP/M-80 on IBM PCs
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Date: 12 Sep 85 16:28:27 GMT
To:       info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA

> Are there currently facilities that will allow the running without
> modification of CPM-80 programs on an IBM AT or XT?
> 
> Pls reply directly to me.
> 
Sorry your address got trashed between networks.

> herb

At one time you could get "baby blue" an add on board with a Z80 on it 
that would run CP/M programs directly.

--Chuck
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>Hal - Bitnet is a service of EDUCOM.  Bitnet, CSNET and one or two others
>are all services of EDUCOM.  If I remember correctly, all of the EDUCOM

Huh? I used to be at a BITNET site (U of Chicago), and BITNET is pretty
much a home-rolled network based on IBM's NJE (Network Job Entry)
protocol, which VM/370 supports with a product called RSCS. Administration
is out of (I think) Columbia. Each site supplies a 9600 baud dedicated
to the nearest node already on the network and in turn agrees to allow
at least one other site to link to them. It is, in fact, a store and
forward system.You can, however, shuttle interactive commands around
the network, so TSO and CMS users can interactively talk to each other
(though it can be S L O W . . .).

There are at least 500 sites on BITNET, I think more. It is limited to
educational institutions. The name Ira Fuchs comes to me as the network
originator and administrator.
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From: Jeff Woolsey <woolsey%umn-cs.uucp@BRL.ARPA>
Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm
Subject: Re: Z8E - at last! a free Z80 debugger for CP/M
Message-ID: <798@umn-cs.UUCP>
Date: 12 Sep 85 22:25:56 GMT
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OK, I've tried to get Z8E running on my machine (I mean I'm real tired of DDT),
but the developers of Z8E forgot one thing:  Z80s have something called
interrupt mode 1.  This is the quick and dirty interrupt mode which causes
a jump to 38H.  Z8E (and unpatched versions of DDT) use restart 7 (which
also jumps to 38H) as the breakpoint mechanism, which on my system (and 
presumably others, since Digital Research issued a patch for DDT to use a 
different restart vector) is the address of the interrupt handler.  No good.

I tried to change which restart vector it uses in the source, but there aren't
any wonderful equates at the front of the source that would make this easy, so
I had to go digging.  I may have gotten them all, after a single pass through
the source, but somehow I doubt it, as the program now crashes after I ask
it to disassemble four instructions.  Real useful.   HELP!

-- 
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Even the ghosts will have settled down and raised families by now.

				Jeff Woolsey
				...ihnp4{!stolaf}!umn-cs!woolsey
				woolsey@umn-cs.csnet
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Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm
Subject: NS320XX Public Software
Message-ID: <3056@hplabsb.UUCP>
Date: 14 Sep 85 01:19:50 GMT
To:       info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA

A recent article in BYTE magazine had an article on an NS32032
coprocessor board for the IBM PC.  It mentioned public domain
software for the NS32032: Pascal, Small C and Forth.  Does anyone
know where to obtain this (or other) NS320XX software?  My
interest is in the source code; I will not be building the
project in BYTE.  Thanks.

Bruce Culbertson
hplabs!hplabsb!culberts
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Question: UUCP for cp/m?

UUCP is the "Unix-to-Unix copy" utility, if I remember correctly....is what
you want a file transfering program....a file transfer program that uses
the same protocol as UUCP (be that xmodem or whatever...I don't rightly
know....)....what exactly are you looking for?

		-Richard Hartman
		max.hartman@ames-vmsb

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I appologize for sending this to info-cpm but I have tired of trying to locate 
the correct host for info-cpm-request.  Arpanet through gateways rarely 
provides the sender with sufficient information to detect lost messages

Please change my address from ACB.TYM@office-2  to ACB.COR@office-2  thanks I 
miss the chatter!

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Subject: STRIP12.PAS
From: ABN.ISCAMS@USC-ISID.ARPA
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NetLandians,

In my new meanderings amongst the wonders of MS-DOS, I've discovered
a BUNCH of text files do NOT end with CTRL-Z, and lo and behold, so did
my little Stripper program (peel out hi bits from WS and other files,
tabify but NOT indiscriminately at every 8th column, strip trailing spaces,
etc.).  Good old Stripper 1.1 chokes and dies every time!

So ... Stripper V1.2, which works from the physical size of the file as
well as checking for potential CTRL-Z's is now lying in my directory,
ABN.ISCAMS, at my host USC-ISIB, available for Anonymous FTP.  File
name STRIP12.PAS, 7-bit, Turbo Pascal source.

This should replace the version 1.1 at SIMTEL20 and MARKET aka LCG.KERMIT at
DEC-MARLBORO.

Regards,
David Kirschbaum
Toad Hall
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Due to CP/M's many limitations, from filesystem to memory to everything
else, your best bet for CP/M electronic mail is to use KERMIT to gateway
messages to and from a cooperating host.  This has already been
accomplished by several persons.  KERMIT is small, very understandable,
well documented, and freely available without licensing complexities.

--Lauren--

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Subject: Re: CP/M-80 on IBM PCs
Message-ID: <31100001@ISM780.UUCP>
Date: 17 Sep 85 16:56:00 GMT
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To:       info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA


The Software Toolworks  (818)-986-4885
14478 Glorietta Drive, Sherman Oaks, CA 91403.

Currently sells "ZP/EM", which does a software emulation of a Z80.
I have seen it run accounting programs written in CBASIC without change.
Emulation speed is roughly that of a 1 MHz machine (on a stock 4.77 MHz PC).
Comes with terminal emulation for a variety of terminals.

ZP/EM                   39.95
Media Master Plus       59.95   (includes ZP/EM)

"Media Master Plus" comes with a copy of Media Master (for
reading foreign 5-1/4 inch soft-sector diskettes).

They are about to release a similar package which will incorporate a V20
chip (and will run much faster). Price not yet available.

Mike Duffy

(Disclaimer: I am the author of programs sold by the Software Toolworks,
but derive no benfit from this announcement).
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Subject: Re: Arf! Arf! programs
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Date: 12 Sep 85 15:14:02 GMT
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One way that I have found to test programs whos nature is untrusted is the
following:
	On my cp/m 80 system, I run a copy of a special version of my CP/M 3
that knows only about the floppy disks. The worst that can happen is it trashes
the floppies and I have to diskdup them again.

	On my MS-DOS XT, My hard disk is formatted for MS-DOS 3.0.  When I
boot of off a MS-DOS 2.1 floppy it doesn't reconize my harddisk and won't
work with it.  But I also run a vdisk from 3.0 that sets up C: to be a 
340k floppy and my autoexec.bat copies all of my standard tools to the C:vdisk.
	I can then open the A: drive and now there are no real disks left
available on this "virtual system".

 -- Drew.
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Subject: HELP
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	Need to locate the manuals and schematics for a ALPHA MICRO
model 100. Picked it up used with no information at all.
	Thanks in advance, send replys to :
		Moeller@Edwards-2060

				Ken
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THERE MOST CERTAINLY IS A PROGRAM FOR THIS! 

IT IS CALLED "MEDIA MASTER PLUS" AND COSTS $59.95. IT INCLUDES MEDIA
MASTER WHICH READS, WRITES, AND FORMATS OVER 70 DIFFERENT DISKS; AND
ALSO INCLUDES "ZP/EM" WHICH EMULATES CP/M 2.2 ON IBM PC'S AT ABOUT
1-2 MHZ(WON'T RUN HARDWARE DEPENDENT PROGRAMS,E.G. GRAPHICS KEY-
BOARD ENHANCERS).

IT IS AVAILABLE FROM:  INTERSECTING CONCEPTS
                       4573 HEATHERGLEN CT.
                       MOORPARK, CA. 93021

                       PHONE: (805) 529-5073 (THEY ACCEPT VISA & MC)
                       ALS 1-800-824-7888 (OPERATOR 251)

I HAVE NO CONNECTION WITH INTERSECTING CONCEPTS BUT CAN RECOMMEND THE 
PROGRAM SINCE I USE IT ON MY OSBORNE ONE TO TRANSFER TEXT AND DATA 
FILES TO IBM PC AT WORK.

                         GOOD LUCK, 
                                       BOB DANTAS
                                       DANTAS@JPL-VLSI.ARPA
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I am posting this query for a friend who is going into practice as a
doctor. He wants to know about programs that will allow him to keep
track of patients' visits, history (condition/therapy/results) and
billing. Any other capabilities would be a plus. He wants something that
will do the job out of the box (no 1-2-3 or DBase-II) since he is new to
computers, and for the same reason it must be very user-friendly. It can
run on any machine, since he doesn't own a computer yet and will
probably make his hardware choice based on his choice of software. I
have already told him that for that kind of application he MUST have a
hard disk, otherwise I guess it's pretty wide open: CP/M, MS-DOS,
Apple-II, Mac... 

How is that for a wish list? Any info on capabilities, required
hardware, publisher, price will be appreciated. Reply to me, I will
summarize and repost if there is enough interest.
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Subject: Any info on HSC co-processors?
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Keywords:
Xpath: reading uts.am gateway.cs
Xref: ukc net.micro:9159 net.micro.cpm:4199


I saw an ad over here for HSC co-processor boards, which add a 8086 or
68000 with 256k-2.5M onto a Z80. Basically the Z80 chi sits on  an
interface board which does all the neat stuff to allow CP/M68K to use the
Z80's disk, keyboard, screen etc, and the Z80 to use the extra RAM as a
RAM-DISK. (CP/M68K is the default O/S).

Can anyone give me any impressions about these things? Are they value for
money? (and what are you paying for them - for us its about US$1000).
Are there better ways to get a good CPU without junking perfectly good
terminals/disk-drives? (Gimme Amiga!)

Also, can anyone give me a name of a supplier, or the address of
HSC itself (they are NY based, I think).

Please mail replies, I'll summarise if there's interest

Many Thanks,

Jerry West
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From: Robert Bloom AMSTE-TOI 3775 <rbloom@apg-1.ARPA>
Subject: wanna buy TurboPascal for CP/M-80
To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
Cc: rbloom@apg-1.ARPA, rbloom@brl-vld.ARPA

I thought this was going to be easy, but ....

I'm trying to buy a copy of TurboPascal v3.0 for my NorthStar 
Horizon running CP/M-80 v2.2.  So far I've gone through about 10 
mail order places in BYTE and come up empty - most don't carry 
it, and the two that I found that do, don't have it in stock.

So, anyone know a source where I can buy and get a copy 
relatively quickly, say, under two weeks?  Some of the places 
having only the IBM versions advertize prices as low as $30 ... 
I'll settle for anything under $50.

Please reply directly to rbloom@apg-1 *AND* rbloom@brl-vld (apg-1 
shuts down weekends.)  

(I need the Pascal compiler for a course I'm taking and am 
already two weeks behind in assignments - the code's written but 
I have nothing to compiler it on.  Yes I know there's JRT, but 
was told that it can be worse than useless ...)

-bob bloom

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RE: An S-100 board to control BSR modules.

I found a company that makes such a board. They imply that
it uses BSR modules.

It's Scitronics in Bethlehem PA.

I called them for a catalog and price quote. $250 !! (chock and puke).
Ah well, the catalog will make a nice addition to the wallpaper
in my computer room. (Most catalogs are only good for that anyway)

rich
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Subject: For Sale: CP/M System
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FOR SALE:
computer: Televideo TS-803, 4mhz Z80, 64k ram
	  2 DSDD 5-1/4 inch floppy drives (360kb formatted per drive)
	  2 serial RS232 ports (75-9600 bps)
	  12-1/2 inch (viewable) tilting screen, P31 green phosphor
	  graphics capability, 640 hor X 240 vert pixels, firmware primitives
	  detached keyboard w/ASCII, cursor, function keys
	  user's manual (!)
	  size: 14.25 in high, 18.5 in wide, 15 in deep
	  2 years old -- great condition
Software: CP/M and CP/M utilities
	  BDS C compiler
	  VEDIT text editor
	  homebrew terminal emulator (written in C: works for Un*x dilaup)
Price:	  new:	  400
	  asking: 000, but have lots of room to dicker
By Whom:  me: Charlie Berger
	      ihnp4!drutx!druca!cab
	      (303) 538-3950 work
	      (303) 450-5359 home
5145EOF
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FOR SALE:
computer: Televideo TS-803, 4mhz Z80, 64k ram
	  2 DSDD 5-1/4 inch floppy drives (360kb formatted per drive)
	  2 serial RS232 ports (75-9600 bps)
	  12-1/2 inch (viewable) tilting screen, P31 green phosphor
	  graphics capability, 640 hor X 240 vert pixels, firmware primitives
	  detached keyboard w/ASCII, cursor, function keys
	  user's manual (!)
	  size: 14.25 in high, 18.5 in wide, 15 in deep
	  2 years old -- great condition
Software: CP/M and CP/M utilities
	  BDS C compiler
	  VEDIT text editor
Price:	  new:	  $2400
	  asking: $1000, but have lots of room to dicker
By Whom:  me: Charlie Berger
	      ihnp4!drutx!druca!cab
	      (303) 538-3950 work
	      (303) 450-5359 home
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From: "Andrew M. Moore" <MLY.G.MOORE%MIT-OZ@MIT-MC.ARPA>
Subject: Xerox-compatable hard drives
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   Could someone tell me where I could find a Xerox compatable (shugart, for
the 820-II) 10MB hard drive?  (They're out of production now).  Please mail
directlry;  I am not a member of info-cpm or info-micro.  Thanks for any
help.

-drew
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Subject: Re: wanna buy TurboPascal for CP/M-80
From: ABN.ISCAMS@USC-ISID.ARPA
To: rbloom@APG-1.ARPA
Cc: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA, rbloom@BRL-VLD.ARPA
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In-Reply-To: The message of Fri, 20 Sep 85 15:42:52 EDT from Robert Bloom AMSTE-TOI 3775 <rbloom@apg-1.ARPA>

Bob (et al)

You wanted to order Turbo Pascal 3.0 FAST .. just placed a telephonic order
(at 9:30 PM!) to NorthEastern .. ad in PCWeek, tollfree (!) 1-800-382-2242.
Good prices, and came in this afternoon via UPS .. 2 day (less, actually)
response time.  7 days a week ordering, air courier delivery even!

I have no affiliation or commercial/financial kickback from this .. just a
pleased "fast-response-needed" customer.

Turbo 3.0 was $37, Turbo ToolBox 1.0 $29.00 (if you want database/BTree
stuff).  They also have rental library for short-term stuff.

Regards,
David Kirschbaum
Toad Hall
ABN.ISCAMS@USC-ISID
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Your best bet for a micro implementation of UUCP is Lauren Weinstein's
(sp?) package.  Contact lauren@vortex for more info.

As I recall, he did a complete ground-up implementation without
looking at any UUCP source.  The protocols are not described anywhere
and are therefore considered "trade secret" (no flames if I used the
wrong legalese, please); he spent a lot of time sitting there typing
stuff at a uucico to figure out what's going on...

--
Rich $alz	{mit-eddie, ihnp4!inmet, wjh12, cca, datacube} !mirror!rs
Mirror Systems	2067 Massachusetts Ave.
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To:       ABN.ISCAMS@USC-ISID.ARPA
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Subject:  Re:  wanna buy TurboPascal for CP/M-80

David:

Good suggestion, but no banana ...

Just talked with NorthEastern - and was told that they only sold
software for IBM compatibles.  They is the same stuff that I've gotten
from a whole bunch of places, I guess that the CP/M-80 market is
dying.

If I can't find somebody with it in stock, I gues that I'll have to 
go directly to Borland; but $70 seems a bit steep when places like
NorthEastern do sell the IBM junk for $29!

-bob
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From: Lauren Weinstein <vortex!lauren@RAND-UNIX.ARPA>
Subject: My package is for MSDOS
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I normally wouldn't reply directly to this group about this,
but I wanted to make a clarification in response to a number
of queries which appear to have been misdirected to this and other groups.

My rather comprehensive uucp/mail (uucp/822/domains)/basic netnews, etc.
package (UULINK) has indeed started limited distribution.
It is for MSDOS; I was able (with a LOT of work) to get the package to
run in 256K and within the framework of the MSDOS OS and filesystem.  
The combined object code of the various programs of the package come
close to filling up a standard MSDOS floppy.  The package is not for CP/M.

--Lauren--




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From: Robert Bloom AMSTE-TOI 3775 <rbloom@apg-1.ARPA>
Subject: TurboPascal Bought
To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA

Thanks all to those to msg'ed to me on finding a Turbo-Pascal
for CP/M-80.  Later this week (I hope) I'll summarise to the
net what happened ....

Thanks again, Bob Bloom

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From: Larry Chatham AMSTE-MS 2761 <lchatha@apg-4.ARPA>
Subject: Need manuals
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Just received some used digital vt100's, vt102's and vt125 in my office. The
only problem is that they came without manuals.  If anyone has copies of these
manuals and could possibly spare them please contact me at my net address
(lchatha@apg-4.ARPA) so that I could make arrangments to get them



						thanks




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From: Ghenis.pasa@XEROX.ARPA
Subject: Re: wanna buy TurboPascal for CP/M-80
In-reply-to: Robert Bloom AMSTE-TOI 3775 <rbloom@apg-1.ARPA>'s message
 of Fri, 20 Sep 85 15:42:52 EDT
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Message-ID: <850924-095649-2297@Xerox>

/
Have you contacted Borland itself? If it is available, they should have
it. Another solution would be to get yourself a format conversion
program like Uniform or Media Master so you can order Turbo in another
format (it is user-installable so you'll be fine). Or you can go to a
local computer club for the format conversion, they will be glad to help
with a conversion program or an Xmodem transfer

Good luck
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Cc: tom@MITRE-BEDFORD.ARPA, info-kermit@CU20B.ARPA, info-apple@BRL.ARPA
Subject: APPLE KERMIT- CPM VERSION

FROM: Trevor,

I am loking for information on the Kermit-80 version available for the Apple
II series.  It will not connect to my host; it does'nt even send a transmit-
ting character over the line.  I have heard that some people have had problems
with their Microsoft cards only working in slots 4 or 5.  Could someone elab-
orate on this?  I am not using a Microsoft card; I'm using an Applied Engin-
eering Z80+ card with their CPAM 4.1 software.

I would move my card, but all the other slots are full and already configured
for other products/packages.  Please forward comments, advice, etc. to me at
this address.


Thanks.
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Subject: RE: Re:  wanna buy TurboPascal for CP/M-80
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 BOB,

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN OBTAIN INSTANT SERVICE, BUT SPITE SOFTWARE,
PORTLAND OREGON ARE GOOD PEOPLE AND EVEN OFFER A PACKAGE DEAL ON
TURBO PASCAL INCLUDING TURBO PASCAL, TURBO TUTOR AND TURBO TOOLBOX
(CALL IT TURBO PACK) FOR $99.95. THEY HAVE GIVEN ME EXCELLENT
SERVICE IN THE PAST.

THEY CAN BE REACHED AT 1-800-824-7888  24-HOURS VISA, MC.
                    OR 1-503-224-0137  FOR QUERIES WEST COAST TIME

I HAVE NO CONNECTION OTHER THAN AS A SATISFIED CUSTOMER!

                                   YOURS,  BOB DANTAS, N6ETS
                                    DANTAS@JPL-VLSI.ARPA
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From: Walt Lamia - 231-6193 - MRO2-2/8D2 <lamia%lsmvax.dec@BRL.ARPA>
Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm
Subject: CP/M Computer for sale
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Date: 23 Sep 85 19:44:00 GMT
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Better Board II with ADM-3A terminal,  letter-quality printer, 
3 Shugart  8" SSDD disk drives,  SASI hard disk interface  and 
cable,  Digicom 300 baud modem, E-Prom burner, cables, lots of 
extra  diskettes.    Complete  schematics  and  documentation, 
including monitor sources.  Everything in A-1 condition.

Software includes ZCPR2 and ZCPR3,  CP/M 2.2 and  3.0,  Kermit 
and Modem programs,  C,  Pascal,  PL/I,  Fortran, Cobol, Basic 
compiler,   Forth,   XLISP,  Dbase  II,  Wordstar,  Supercalc, 
FinalWord,  spelling checker,  Proofreader and Grammatik, RCPM 
software,  lots  of  public domain software,  and  much  more.  

$1100 or make me an offer.

Walter Lamia

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                                decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-lsmvax!lamia
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      lamia%lsmvax.DEC@Purdue-Merlin.ARPA
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From: Keith Petersen <W8SDZ@SIMTEL20.ARPA>
To:   Info-Cpm@BRL.ARPA
Subject: PDSE-066.LQT phone list of XMODEM protocol systems updated

The latest list of all known RCPM (Remote CP/M) systems and other
systems supporting XMODEM protocol file transfers is now available
from SIMTEL20.  If you cannot FTP and you are not already on the list
to automatically receive updates of this phone list, please send a
note to me and I'll add you to the mailing list.

Filename			Type	 Bytes	 CRC

Directory MICRO:<CPM.MISC>
PDSE-066.LQT.1			BINARY	 54656  EBAAH

--Keith Petersen
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Subject: RE: Need manuals
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Sorry, we don't have any spare manuals for the VT1xx Terminals,
but we know that the most important escape sequence for the
VT 100 is:
            <ESC>[145q
                 i------- left square bracket
But you will find it in none of the manuals.

Have fun

Ralf (#d22%ddathd21.BITNET@WISCVM.ARPA)
Technical University of Darmstadt, Germany
(Beware of the number sign (#) - it's part of my User-ID)
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Subject:reply to: APPLE KERMIT - CP/M VERSION

Cc:info-apple@BRL.ARPA, info-kermit@CU20B.ARPA

As far as I know, no one has written an overlay for cp/m kermit (cp4...)
for the Applicard CP/M.  You cannot use the microsoft overlays since
the way you communicate with the serial is different between the two
systems... For what its worth - I'm currently working on this (I've
got an Applicard at home - Microsoft at work).  I'll pass it along
when I'm finished.
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From:     "Jack H. Smith" <jhsmith@crdc-vax2.ARPA>
To:       info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
Subject:  want ads in mailing lists

	I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I'm getting 
	tired of seeing these 'classified ads' in my message box
	each morning.
	
	I know that I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I
	remember seeing a request from one of the key administrators
	of the list, and he said that these types of messages 
	were unwanted, and I agree.

	I also know that the list is one of the best means 
	available of reaching those who would probably be
	most interested in these types of 'ads', and most
	likely to follow-up and buy something if they were 
	interested. But, the fact remains that the list 
	is not, was not, and never will be, intended to
	serve as a 'classified ads' medium.....


	I regret that these opinions are my own, and cannot
	be considered anybody else's, because if they were
	shared, I probably wouldn't have much to write 
	about.

		Sorry if I bored you guys....just wanted to 
	get it off my chest....

					Jack H. Smith


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From:     dantas@JPL-VLSI.ARPA
Subject: EXOR S-100 SYSTEM INFO REQUEST
To:       info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA


I HAVE A NEED TO FIND A SET OF THE DOCUMENTATION FOR THE EXOR S100 SYSTEM
RUNNING CP/M 2.2, IT HAS ONE 360K DS/DD FLOPPY, 5 MEG HARD DISK. THE 
SYSTEM WAS PURCHASED TO BE USED AS A BULLETIN BOARD COMPUTER. IT IS 
WORKING FINE FOR SEND OR RECEIVE BUT WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO WORK IN
DUPLEX MODE WITH XMODEM.

THE SYSTEM WAS TO RUN AS THE BULLETIN BOARD SOURCE FOR THE OKOK(OSBORNE
KOMPUTER OWNERS KLUB), BUT SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE THE DOCUMENTATION WAS 
LOST.

IF SOMEONE HAS DOCUMENTATION AVAILABLE FOR THIS UNIT WE WOULD BE VERY
GRATEFUL FOR A COPY, I.E. WE WILL PAY FOR IT. BARING THIS, WE WOULD
LIKE INFO ON HOW TO PATCH THE UNIT TO RUN DUPLEX WITH XMODEM.

FINALLY, IF NONE OF THIS IS POSSIBLE THE CLUB WOULD LIKE TO SELL THE
SYSTEM. ANY INTERESTED PARTIES MAY CONTACT ME.

                   THANKS FOR ANY HELP ON THIS MATTER,
                      BOB DANTAS, N6ETS
                      DANTAS@JPL-VLSI.ARPA
                      (818)354-4932
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From: MJOHNSON%ECLD@usc-ecl.ARPA
Subject: KERMIT FOR KAYPRO-II
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I HAVE A COPY OF KERMIT FOR THE KAYPRO II.  YOU CAN CALL ME AT WORK HERE 2543 
OR AT HOME 935-6770.  -- LEE JAFFE
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ABOUT HALF THE BAY AREA (S.F.) KAYPRO USERS AND PROGRAMMERS GROUP (BAKUP) HAVE  
GONE THROUGH SOME KIND OF UPGRADE, MANY USING THE PRO 8 AND SOME DOING IT THEM-
SELVES.  IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN TALKING TO THEM AND ARE NOT AFRAID OF A LONG
DISTANCE PHONE CALL I CAN GIVE YOU A NAME AND NUMBER IN OAKLAND.  
   OTHERWISE EVERYTHING I HAVE HEARD FROM THEM IS GOOD.  THE ONE PROBLEM THAT   
HAS BEEN MENTIONED IS THAT THE UPGRADE MAY NOT WORK WITH OTHER ADD-ONS AND SOME
HAVE HAD TO ADD FANS.  OH YES, ONE KIND OF DRIVE HAS THE PLUG ON THE WRONG SIDE 
FOR THE KAYPRO.  YOU CAN CALL ME AT X2543 ON CAMPUS OR 935-6770 AT HOME
  -- LEE JAFFE
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Subject: UNwanted ads
From: PSPARKS@USC-ISI.ARPA
To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
cc: psparks@USC-ISI.ARPA, PSPARKS@USC-ISI.ARPA
Reply-To: PSPARKS@USC-ISI.ARPA

	I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I'm getting 
	tired of seeing these 'classified ads' in my message box
	each morning.
	
	I know that I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I
	remember seeing a request from one of the key administrators
	of the list, and he said that these types of messages 
	were unwanted, and I agree.

	I also know that the list is one of the best means 
	available of reaching those who would probably be
	most interested in these types of 'ads', and most
	likely to follow-up and buy something if they were 
	interested. But, the fact remains that the list 
	is not, was not, and never will be, intended to
	serve as a 'classified ads' medium.....


	I regret that these opinions are my own, and cannot
	be considered anybody else's, because if they were
	shared, I probably wouldn't have much to write 
	about.

		Sorry if I bored you guys....just wanted to 
	get it off my chest....

					Jack H. Smith
                               2NDed    Paul W. Sparks
                       


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From: Tom Nadas <tom%utcsri.uucp@BRL.ARPA>
Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm
Subject: Re: CP/M-80 on IBM PCs
Message-ID: <1420@utcsri.UUCP>
Date: 22 Sep 85 13:12:43 GMT
To:       info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA


But does Media Master plus let you, say, take your Osborne 1 WordStar or
dBase II and run it on an IBM PC?  If so, how does it handle the 
differences in terminal characteristics (clear screen, highlighting,
etc.).  I've been using plain old Media Master (no plus) for well
over a year know to do data transfers and find it wonderful for
that.
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To: "Jack H. Smith" <jhsmith@CRDC-VAX2.ARPA>
Cc: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
Subject: Re: want ads in mailing lists
In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 25 Sep 85 14:51:30 EST.
	     <8509251916.AA11660@mitre.ARPA>
Date: 25 Sep 85 22:41:00 EDT (Wed)
From: Jeff Edelheit <edelheit@MITRE.ARPA>

Jack - I really agree with you and have raised the issue with Dave Towson
(the super-helpful administrator of info-cpm).  

The bottom line is this:  virtually all of these advertisements are coming
from the USENET side of the internet, not the ARPA/MILNET side.  It appears
that not only does usenet approve of this activity, but they even have a
specialized distribution list just for selling stuff.  I applaud the 
restraint of the ARPA/MILNET users have shown in not abusing the net with
advertisements of their own.  (I would really hate to see "our" side of the
net affected by some whistle-blower complaining about the mis-use of 
DoD facilites, etc.)  

They only way to stop these messages would be to drop the gateway between
USENET and ARPA/MILNET.  I, for one, feel that the help and information
I receive from our USENET friends is worth the trouble of the for sale
notes.  My opinion is based on seeing only a few for sale notes every
week; if we really started getting a bunch of them, then I might have
to rethink my stand.

One possible approach is that if USENET has a specialized distribution
list just for advertisements, then they somehow try to insure that all
adverts appear just on that list and not on info-cpm or any of the
other lists.

Anyone else have an opinion on the subject?

Jeff Edelheit
(edelheit@mitre.arpa)
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From:     Earl Weaver (VLD/ASB) <earl@BRL.ARPA>
To:       Jeff Edelheit <edelheit@MITRE.ARPA>
cc:       "Jack H. Smith" <jhsmith@CRDC-VAX2.ARPA>, info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
Subject:  Re:  want ads in mailing lists

I agree with Jeff, but I think the 'for sale' traffic is far less than
2 or 3 a week.  Or maybe I unconciously skip over them, so their
frequency is not a memorable number.  At any rate, it has not been
bothersome to me, but we do have to be careful about misuse.

But those are "personal" for sales.  What about Gov't agencies or Gov't
contractors?  Does the reg prohibit, say, NASA advertising that it has
an excess VAX that can be picked up by any other Gov't agency for the
cost of packing and shipping (as is done by USnail with the Defense
Automation Resources Information Center's Excess Automation Equipment
BULLETIN)?
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From: hr%uicsl.uucp@BRL.ARPA
Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm
Subject: Intel to Zilog Translator?
Message-ID: <7700001@uicsl>
Date: 23 Sep 85 15:14:00 GMT
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To:       info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA


<>

Is there a P.D. program to translate from ASM source code to
Zilog mnemonics?

						harold ravlin
					{ihnp4,pur-ee}!uiucdcs!uicsl!hr
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REF: Msg by Jack H. Smith on classified ads in mail.
Perhaps what is needed is another ARPA interest group; then those who want
the ads can get on the mailing list and those who don't won't have to 
hassle with the extra mail.  *NO, I AM !!not!! INTERESTED IN MODERATING
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The latest issue of BYTE mentions the BIX (Byte Information eXchange(?))
in a couple of places, with encourageents to join....but no info on
who/where/how.  Does anyone know more about this?  Please reply 
personally, if there is enough interest I will forward info to the net.

		Thanks,
			-Richard Hartman
			max.hartman@ames-vmsb
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From: Rob-Kling <Kling%UCI-20B@uci-icsa.ARPA>
Subject: Social Impacts of Computing: Graduate Study at UC-Irvine
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This program might be of special interest to those people interested
in the social impacts of microcomputing, desktop computerization, and
home computing.  Current reserach projects within this program examine
the social dimensions of these technologies: who uses them in the
larger society, what they are good for, how people and organizations
integrate them into their daily lives.

========================================================================
                                CORPS

                               -------

                        Graduate Education in

            Computing, Organizations, Policy, and Society

               at the University of California, Irvine


     This graduate concentration at the University of California,
Irvine provides an opportunity for scholars and students to
investigate the social dimensions of computerization in a setting
which supports reflective and sustained inquiry.

     The primary educational opportunities are PhD concentrations in
the Department of Information and Computer Science (ICS) and MS and
PhD concentrations in the Graduate School of Management (GSM).
Students in each concentration can specialize in studying the social
dimensions of computing.

     The faculty at Irvine have been active in this area, with many
interdisciplinary projects, since the early 1970's.  The faculty and
students in the CORPS have approached them with methods drawn from the
social sciences.

     The CORPS concentration focuses upon four related areas of
inquiry:

 1.  Examining the social consequences of different kinds of
     computerization on social life in organizations and in the larger
     society.

 2.  Examining the social dimensions of the work and organizational
     worlds in which computer technologies are developed, marketed,
     disseminated, deployed, and sustained.

 3.  Evaluating the effectiveness of strategies for managing the
     deployment and use of computer-based technologies.

 4.  Evaluating and proposing public policies which facilitate the
     development and use of computing in pro-social ways.


     Studies of these questions have focussed on complex information
systems, computer-based modelling, decision-support systems, the
myriad forms of office automation, electronic funds transfer systems,
expert systems, instructional computing, personal computers, automated
command and control systems, and computing at home.  The questions
vary from study to study.  They have included questions about the
effectiveness of these technologies, effective ways to manage them,
the social choices that they open or close off, the kind of social and
cultural life that develops around them, their political consequences,
and their social carrying costs.

     CORPS studies at Irvine have a distinctive orientation -

(i) in focussing on both public and private sectors,

(ii) in examining computerization in public life as well as within
      organizations,

(iii) by examining advanced and common computer-based technologies "in
      vivo" in ordinary settings, and

(iv) by employing analytical methods drawn from the social sciences.



         Organizational Arrangements and Admissions for CORPS


     The CORPS concentration is a special track within the normal
graduate degree programs of ICS and GSM.  Admission requirements for
this concentration are the same as for students who apply for a PhD in
ICS or an MS or PhD in GSM.  Students with varying backgrounds are
encouraged to apply for the PhD programs if they show strong research
promise.

     The seven primary faculty in the CORPS concentration hold
appointments in the Department of Information and Computer Science and
the Graduate School of Management.  Additional faculty in the School
of Social Sciences, and the program on Social Ecology, have
collaborated in research or have taught key courses for CORPS
students.  Our research is administered through an interdisciplinary
research institute at UCI which is part of the Graduate Division, the
Public Policy Research Organization.

Students who wish additional information about the CORPS concentration
should write to:

          Professor Rob Kling (Kling@uci-icsa)
          Department of Information and Computer Science
          University of California, Irvine
          Irvine, Ca. 92717
          714-856-5955 or 856-7548

                                or to:

          Professor Kenneth Kraemer (Kraemer@uci-icsa)
          Graduate School of Management
          University of California, Irvine
          Irvine, Ca. 92717
          714-856-5246
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Say Hi to Lee for me
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To: info-micro@BRL-VGR.ARPA
Subject: Some S-100 questions?
Cc: Info-CPM@AMSAA.ARPA, crash!kevinb@SDCSVAX.ARPA, BUDDENBERGRA@USC-ISI.ARPA

  A while ago I ran off a big helplist to help get my IMSAI 8080
system going, and, I am glad to say, recieved a great deal of help.
Now, I have run into a few more problems with this system, and thought I'd
toss them out to see if there are any geniuses out there able to answer my
puzzling questions. These are as follows:

My system runs fine at 4 Mhz sans NorthStar MDC-A4 Disk Controller. Getting
4 out of this beast would be nice. Anybody with information on a possible
speedup of this board? Rumor has it there are some jumperable options of that
nature, and any info on this board would be wonderful....

Does anybody know of ANY modification sheets for the IMSAI frontpanel around?
I would dearly love to have it start up in "Run mode", but have no idea at this
moment as to how to do that. ANY information on mods, whether applicable or 
not, would be handy indeed.

Does anybody have documentation on the Seattle Computer Product's line of S-100
boards? S.C.P. is now dealing in IBM stuff, and their archives went up in their
company's fire last December, worse luck. I am specifically asking for the
SCP-16K 16 K Plus, a 16K static RAM board, but am looking toward also 
forwarding any info received to them to regenerate their archives with.


Also, does anyone know of the fate of a software company known as Dvorak's
Software Review? A friend has a patch for his NorthStar from this company that
may work on my system, but is unaware of whether they are still in biz, or what
the status is of software bought from a defunct company. Is it then Public
Domain? I'm scratching my head on this one, myself.

And finally, anybody know what happened to IMS Associates, Inc. (IMSAI)?
I heard the co. died, but that another company named (Fisher-Freitas?) was
helping out and providing support. Heard they may be gone now, too.
I am still in the process of getting things together, but right now it seems
to be finally running, though I am not sure of all the things making it go,
the Imsai SIO board, for example.

As always, any information on anything S-100 is welcome, as are requests for 
documentation on anything I got.  Donations of cards are exceedingly welcome,
and I have (surprise!) already gotten my first, an IMSAI MPU-A from Brian
Kantor of San Diego. If you have any S-100 stuff that is just mouldering away,
try donating to me instead, especially in the San Diego and LA area. I will
be more than happy to take that ol' stuff and try to rebuild it again, not to
mention that we have a local handicapped club that feels the same way about
any computer equipment. Let me know, anything would be handy.


			Thanks for hearing me out,

				Kevin Belles

Kevin J. Belles - UUCP {ihnp4,cbosgd,sdcsvax,noscvax}crash!kevinb
~~~~~ ~~ ~~~~~~ - ARPA crash!kevinb@{ucsd,nosc}.ARPA

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Subject: New files on SIMTEL20 between 29-Aug-85 and 26-Sep-85

The following is a list of new files added to SIMTEL20's <CPM.*>
directories between 29-Aug-85 and 26-Sep-85.  For a complete list of
all files, get MICRO:<CPM>CPM.CRCLST.

        Filename        Type     Bytes   CRC

MICRO:<CPM.ASMUTL>
        XLT86.LBR.1     BINARY   83584  0FB4H <-8086<->8080 translator
        XREF26.LBR.1    BINARY   40832  975EH <-cross-ref for ASM files

MICRO:<CPM.BYE3>
        BYE338.MOD.1    ASCII     1584  E467H <-modification for BYE338

MICRO:<CPM.BYE5>
        BYE501.BUG.1    ASCII     1222  EBD6H <-bug fix for BYE501
        KMD06.LBR.1     BINARY  150784  5D3FH <-xmodem for BYE5

MICRO:<CPM.COMND>
        COMND004.LBR.1  BINARY  101248  01A7H <-Tops20-style command
                                                processor for CP/M

MICRO:<CPM.DBASEII>
        DB-CHAIN.DQC.1  BINARY    2944  BEA1H <-how to chain in DBAS-II

MICRO:<CPM.DIRUTL>
        ALLDIR11.LBR.1  BINARY    8576  AE6BH <-dir for all drives, all users

MICRO:<CPM.DIRUTL>
        FRONT47.LBR.1   BINARY   48256  F3EBH <-turnkey menu program
        ZDR.LBR.1       BINARY   12928  C4CCH <-simple sorted directory

MICRO:<CPM.DISASM>
        DAZLSTAR.LBR.1  BINARY   71552  5FEEH <-WordStar-like fancy
                                                disassembler
MICRO:<CPM.DSKUTL>
        READONLY.LBR.1  BINARY    3072  DFA9H <-protection against arf-arf

MICRO:<CPM.GENDOC>
        COMM180.TQT.1   BINARY    4096  0B7EH <-info on comm port for SB180
        FIFOS.DOC.1     ASCII     3209  A2B7H <-comparisons of FIFO chips
        HD64180.WQ2.1   BINARY   12288  4D97H <-update of HD64180.WQ
        SB180.TXT.1     ASCII    11138  05B7H <-single board computer
        UPD70116.V30.1  ASCII     3494  7F23H <-fast replacement for 8086

MICRO:<CPM.IMP> (Hoff's fork of MODEM7)
        I2AC-1.AQM.2    BINARY    8192  73C1H
        I2AD-1.AQM.2    BINARY    7808  9A96H
        I2AM-1.AQM.2    BINARY    8192  66C3H
        I2AP-1.AQM.2    BINARY   15360  285EH
        I2AP-4.AQM.1    BINARY   16000  5203H
        I2CC-1.AQM.2    BINARY    8960  3BD9H
        I2CP-1.AQM.2    BINARY    8064  C1F4H
        I2DM-1.AQM.1    BINARY    7424  67E3H
        I2DP-1.AQM.2    BINARY    7808  DF99H
        I2EA-1.AQM.2    BINARY    9344  BA47H
        I2EP-1.AQM.2    BINARY    7552  58C4H
        I2H8-1.AQM.2    BINARY    7552  66A0H
        I2HZ-1.AQM.2    BINARY    7680  CC69H
        I2KP-1.AQM.2    BINARY    7424  9547H
        I2LO-1.AQM.1    BINARY    7552  CED8H
        I2MC-1.AQM.1    BINARY   10112  DDC8H
        I2MD-1.AQM.1    BINARY    7936  F4A1H
        I2OV-2.AQM.1    BINARY   11008  D571H
        I2OX-1.AQM.2    BINARY    7552  D7BDH
        I2R4-1.AQM.2    BINARY    7168  658BH
        I2SS-1.AQM.2    BINARY    7424  8C34H
        I2TV-1.AQM.2    BINARY    8576  E8D6H
        I2XE-1.AQM.2    BINARY    7424  D96AH
        I2ZB-1.AQM.2    BINARY    7808  3A17H
        IMP-OVL.CQS.2   BINARY    2816  D053H
        IMP-OVL.LST.2   ASCII     3319  43E9H
        IMP243.LBR.1    BINARY   80256  241BH

MICRO:<CPM.KAYPRO>
        KP-VT52.LBR.1   BINARY   27648  8022H <-VT52 terminal emulator

MICRO:<CPM.LIST>
        PRINT23.LBR.1   BINARY    3968  9942H <-another lister program

MICRO:<CPM.MBBS>   (MB*.AQM are hardware port overlays for MBYE)
        MB2651-1.AQM.1  BINARY    5376  4FF9H
        MB7201-1.AQM.1  BINARY    3712  873DH
        MB8250-1.AQM.1  BINARY    4608  F3C4H
        MB8251-2.AQM.1  BINARY    5376  E818H
        MBACAT-1.AQM.1  BINARY    4608  920AH
        MBBS41A1.LBR.1  BINARY  104960  4DE5H <-MBBS 4.1 1st half
        MBBS41B.LBR.1   BINARY  110976  38CEH <-MBBS 4.1 2nd half
        MBC-KPRO.AQM.1  BINARY    3456  C1ABH
        MBDCH1-1.AQM.1  BINARY    3840  B725H
        MBK484-1.AQM.1  BINARY    4736  D7D6H
        MBLO-10.AQM.1   BINARY    5248  81A5H
        MBMMII-1.AQM.1  BINARY    4352  5B40H
        MBOTR-1.AQM.1   BINARY    6016  0D21H
        MBPMMI-1.AQM.1  BINARY    4992  3A44H
        MBTRS3-2.AQM.1  BINARY    4608  E744H
        MBYE40.LBR.1    BINARY   74368  284AH <-BYE for MBBS
        MBZSIO-2.AQM.1  BINARY    6912  8565H

MICRO:<CPM.MEX>
        MEX-OVL.HQP.1   BINARY    6272  66E7H <-info on MEX overlays
        MXM-2404.AQM.1  BINARY   15232  DD20H <-2400 bps/auto fall to 1200
        MXM-CQ12.AQM.1  BINARY   10368  B6C3H
        MXM-RT11.AQM.1  BINARY   10496  E506H
        MXM-RV16.AQM.1  BINARY   10752  C741H
        MXO-H815.AQM.1  BINARY   14464  6829H
        MXO-IN13.AQM.1  BINARY    6912  0F1FH

MICRO:<CPM.MISC>
        PDSE-066.LQT.1  BINARY   54656  EBAAH <-latest RCPM list
        ROYALOAK.DQR.3  BINARY   73984  40A7H <-my RCPM directory

MICRO:<CPM.MODEM>
        LIGHTNG.FIX.1   ASCII     1287  73CCH <-protect modem from lightning

MICRO:<CPM.MODEM7>
        M7NC-1.AQM.1    BINARY    7168  06FBH
        M7OVL-26.LST.1  ASCII     5098  D254H <-latest list of overlays

MICRO:<CPM.PACKET>
        PACKT100.LBR.1  BINARY  275584  5E49H <-W0RLI packet for Xerox820
        PACKT100.MSG.1  ASCII     3326  5954H
        TNC2.HINTS.1    ASCII     3557  D99FH <-building hints for TNC2
        TNCDED.DOC.1    ASCII    30130  CF05H <-\
        TNCDED.HEX.2    ASCII    46093  9F06H <--ver. 0.91 softwr for TNC1
        TNCDED.MSG.1    ASCII     4211  3D8CH <-/

MICRO:<CPM.PCDOS>
        KEYIBM.LBR.1    BINARY    8320  569EH <-redifine keys
        MSDOSUTL.LBR.1  BINARY   65920  C472H <-utility collection
        POPALARM.LBR.1  BINARY   21248  60C8H <-pop-up alarm clock
        SCALE.CQ.1      BINARY    5248  C120H <-goes with GRAPH.LBR

MICRO:<CPM.RBBS4>
        RBBS4102.BUG.1  ASCII     1334  E4A1H <-update promised real soon

MICRO:<CPM.RCPM>
        BYEXCLBK.MQD.1  BINARY    3968  974AH <-how to add "call-back" to BYE
        CHAT44.AQM.1    BINARY   13312  0D73H <-latest chat with Sysop pgm.
        KMD06-SA.LBR.1  BINARY  123264  1C4EH <-doesn't need BYE5 to work
        SECT2.AQM.1     BINARY    5248  0B81H <-section selection for RCPM
        SECTION.MQC.1   BINARY   11264  A1D3H <-ditto
        XMDM117.BUG.1   ASCII      890  B2FCH <-a small fix detailed
        XMDM117.LBR.1   BINARY  102656  24A5H <-latest XMODEM

MICRO:<CPM.SQUSQ>
        USQ120.COM.1    BINARY    1920  105AH <-machine language USQ
        USQ120.DQC.1    BINARY    1920  6D7AH

MICRO:<CPM.TELEFONE>
        FONEDIAG.DQC.1  BINARY    2688  C5B3H <-wiring diagram for 500 set
        LONGDIST.LBR.1  BINARY    9856  D3ECH <-rate comparisons
        PCPURSUT.LBR.1  BINARY   13184  FC34H <-PcPursuit detailed

MICRO:<CPM.TOPS-20>
        MODEM.MAC.316   ASCII    53995  B47EH <-modem for Tops-20

MICRO:<CPM.TURBOPAS>
        STRIP12.PQS.1   BINARY    8448  D052H <-clean up a WS file

MICRO:<CPM.VDOEDIT>
        VDO25B.LBR.1    BINARY   57600  07FBH <-video editor now improved

MICRO:<CPM.WSTAR>
        RESQ13.LBR.1    BINARY   11520  C251H <-recover WS files after BDOS er.

MICRO:<CPM.Z3NEW>
        HD64180.WQ2.1   BINARY   12288  4D97H
        HD64180.WS2.1   ASCII    26340  6A5AH
        Z3NEWS.301.1    ASCII    12327  B9D3H <-ZCPR3 news
        Z3NEWS.302.1    ASCII    13531  7FE0H <
        Z3NEWS.303.1    ASCII    13560  AC9FH <
        Z3NEWS.3Q1.1    BINARY    8064  22D0H <
        Z3NEWS.3Q2.1    BINARY    8448  54C5H <
        Z3NEWS.3Q3.1    BINARY    8704  446DH <

MICRO:<CPM.Z8EDEBUG>
        Z8E.BUG.1       ASCII     1659  27B1H <-tells about fix needed
        Z8E.DQC.1       BINARY   92672  A47FH
        Z8E.MQC.1       BINARY  112512  4925H <-original source
        Z8EFIXED.COM.1  BINARY   11648  E981H <-fixed version
        Z8EFIXED.DOC.1  ASCII     3311  A336H
        Z8EFIXED.SYM.1  ASCII      172  D1B4H

MICRO:<CPM.ZCPR3>
        Z3NEWS.3Q1.1    BINARY    8064  22D0H
        Z3NEWS.3Q2.1    BINARY    8448  54C5H
        Z3NEWS.3Q3.1    BINARY    8704  446DH

--Keith
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From:  ZDV626%DJUKFA11.BITNET@WISCVM.ARPA
Subject: Ads and other things

I, too, would like to have the ads in a special list, like info-cpm-ad,

so I just can summarily discard them from my readerlist. ( Pardon my

language, they only gave me an account on the IBM )

I guess there are a lot of people still wanting them, though.



I would like to have the whole info-cpm in a digested form like

info-ibmpc or info-kermit, anyway.



This would be a lot easier to handle. Can't one automate the thing

like bundling 10 messages and then distribute them ?



( Again, fighting VM/SP over a 1200 baud line ain't fun !

Once in a while I can get a 4800 baud line, but I am spoiled by

VAX/VMS 4.1. The local gurus tell me:  Real Soon Now ... )



By the way : Thanks to all answering my recent pleas for help.



el





Eberhard W. Lisse  <zdv626%djukfa11.bitnet%wiscvm.arpa>

                   <psuvax1!djukfa11.bitnet!zdv626>

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Subject: BREAK on Osborne I
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Does anyone have code that generates a BREAK for the Osborne I?

I have tried unsuccessfully to add code to Osborne I Kermit to generate a
BREAK.  I thought since the Apple ][ CCS 7710A card uses a memory mapped
6850, that similar code should work on the Osborne I.  But of course :-) it
does not work.

Are there any Osborne Wisards out there that can help?

SaS
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> I thought this was going to be easy, but ....
> 
> I'm trying to buy a copy of TurboPascal v3.0 for my NorthStar 
> Horizon running CP/M-80 v2.2.  So far I've gone through about 10 
> mail order places in BYTE and come up empty - most don't carry 
> it, and the two that I found that do, don't have it in stock.
> 
> So, anyone know a source where I can buy and get a copy 
> relatively quickly, say, under two weeks?  Some of the places 
> having only the IBM versions advertize prices as low as $30 ... 
> I'll settle for anything under $50....

'course you could get it from Borland, they of course charge list for it
but will get it to you in a few days if you charge it. 

--Chuck
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I vote against digestifing, if anyone takes a poll.
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Earl - Excess hardware disposal is handled by GSA.  GSA is notified
by Agency X that it has ABC as excess.  GSA collects all of the 
notifications for one month and then publishes what is available, 
general condition of the hdw and who has declared it surplus.  Agency
Y contacts X and if Y decides they want it, Y contacts GSA and claims
ABC.  If no Fed Agency claims the hardware, States & munnicipals get
next shot, followed by schools, with for profits getting last chance.

Generally, if it isn't claimed by the school level, it isn't worth much.
I remember an old Honeywell mainframe that was picked-up by a little old
man.  He cut all the cables with a hacksaw and was not very gentle in the
way he was dismembering it.  When we protested, saying that it did work, but
if he continued the way he was going that it wouldn't work, his response
was that it wasn't a computer as far as he was concerned: "It is just
of gold on circuit boards and I am going after the gold".

Regards,

Jeff
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The USENET news group is "net.wanted".

Bill 
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Subject: Little Board / SB180 compatibility
From: Rex Buddenberg <BUDDENBERGRA@USC-ISI.ARPA>
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For AMPRO/Little Board and Ciarcia HD64180 board owners.
An undocumented feature that I discovered is that the
5 1/4 disc formats are identical for both machines.

Now what engineer in his right mind would have made that
unforgivable error?  Must be a bug...
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Harold,

You queried about a PD program to translate from ASM (I assume Intel) source
code to Zilog mnemonics.

Yep, XLATE2.COM and .MAC, available on SIGM Volume 91.  I use it (plus a
stronger version from the UK) all the time.  Available via ANONYMOUS
logon at SIMTEL20 in the MICRO: (aka PD:) archives.

Works just fine.

Regards,
David Kirschbaum
Toad Hall
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There is a newer version of XLATE on SIMTEL20.  See;

micro:<cpm.asmutl>xlate5.lbr

-Paul

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Quick reference list to SIMTEL20's MICRO:<CPM.x> directories
as of Sept. 29, 1985 (where 'x' is one of the names below):

22RSX         COMND         GENCOM        NSTAR         T20-SQUSQ
6502          CPM3          GENDOC        OSBORN        TELEFONE
AMETHYST      CPM86         HAMMING       PACKET        TERM
APPLE         CPMLIB        HAMRADIO      PASCAL        TOPS-20
ASMUTL        CPR86         HDUTL         PCDOS         TRS-80
ATARI         CUG           HEATH         PCPURSUIT     TURBODOS
AZTEC-C       DBASEII       HELP          PILOT80       TURBOPAS
BASIC         DEBUG         HEX           PLOT33        TXTUTL
BDOS          DIRUTL        IBM-PC        PPSPEL        VAXVMS
BDSC-1        DISASM        IMP           PUBKEY        VDOEDIT
BDSC-2        DISKPLOT      INSIDCPM      PUBPATCH      VOICE
BDSC-3        DSKBUF        KAYPRO        RBBS          WSTAR
BDSC-4        DSKUTL        LIST          RBBS4         XCCP
BSTAM         EDITC80       MACLIB        RCPM          XLISP
BYE3          EDITOR        MATH          ROS           YAM
BYE5          EMX           MBBS          SMALLC21      Z3LIBS
BYT85FEB      EPSON         MEMTEST       SORT          Z3NEW
BYT85JAN      EZCPR         MEX           SPELL         Z8EDEBUG
C80           FAST2         MICNET        SQU-PORT      ZCPR
CATLOG        FIDO          MISC          SQUSQ         ZCPR2
CB80          FILCPY        MODEM         STARTER-KIT   ZCPR3
CBIOS         FILUTL        MODEM2        SUBMIT
CCP           FORTH-83      MODEM7        SYSLIB
COBOL         FORTRAN       MSOFT         SYSLIB3
COMMODORE     GENASM        NEWS          SYSUTL
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Yes, anomalies like the compatability of 5 1/4" disk formats between
the Ampro and the SB180 occur from time to time.  Has something
to do with the same person doing the BIOS (in this case, Joe Wright).
The government is aware of this problem and is planning to budget $1M for
a study to decide what to do about it.

I can really vouch for it.  I do all development on my main system,
use T3MASTER/T3SERVER to transfer files to the Ampro, and then litterally
put the Ampro disk on the SB180 and read/use it.  Works like a charm.

		Rick
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Subject: Re: wanna buy TurboPascal for CP/M-80
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Date: 26 Sep 85 00:41:34 GMT
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> Yes I know there's JRT, but  was told that it can be worse than useless ...)

You were told correctly. Some time ago when I worked for UCLA Extension
we bought JRT Pascal compiler for CPM2.2 on hp125. It stunk. Turbo Pascal
was WAY better.  However, JRT had a new version of their compiler since
then. ...

As an alternative: have you tried to call the folks at Borland?
They are the ones who make it. The could suggest a dealer to contact!
