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INFO-CPM Digest             Thu,  4 Jun 92       Volume 92 : Issue   43

Today's Topics:
                          BDS-C for CP/M ???
                CP/M software sought: "Typing Tutor"?
                        CP/M Systems for sale
                             CP/M to DOS
                              Re:  bds-c
                        Re: BDS-C for CP/M ???
               Re: CP/M BIOS calls / DEC VT180 (ROBIN)
                     SUMMARY: CPM to DOS transfer
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Date: 29 May 92 03:41:03 GMT
From: mcsun!fuug!demos!news-server@uunet.uu.net  (Borovoy Vadim Yurievich)
Subject: BDS-C for CP/M ???
Message-ID: <AA_cP9gqr4@binar.tyumen.su>

Who knows where I can get BDS-C, for CP/M (Z80)?

--- Vadim --- E-mail vadb@binar.tyumen.su ---

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Date: 29 May 92 03:11:24 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!ohstpy!kenyon.edu!siddall@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: CP/M software sought: "Typing Tutor"?
Message-ID: <1992May28.221124.66@kenyon.edu>

I am searching for a CP/M version of "Typing Tutor" or its equivalent for
teaching keyboarding skills, especially to children.  I an using a Morrow
MicroDesigns hard disk system.  Any suggestions for sources of such a program,
or other good sources for CP/M software?  Thanks!

/-----------------------------------------------------------------------------\
|Scott E. Siddall                                |Telephone: 614-427-5696     | 
|Director of Academic Computing - Kenyon College |Fax: 614-427-5824           |
|Information and Computing Services              |Internet:                   |
|Gambier, Ohio 43022                             |   SIDDALL@VAX001.KENYON.EDU|
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Date: 2 Jun 92 05:19:40 GMT
From: micro-heart-of-gold.mit.edu!wupost!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!uicvm.uic.edu!u43610@bloom-beacon.mit.edu
Subject: CP/M Systems for sale
Message-ID: <92154.001940U43610@uicvm.uic.edu>

Two CP/M computer systems for sale..  Make me an E-Mail offer..
-
1)  Altos 5-15D..  3 users.. Parallel and serial printer ports..  decent amount
 of software.  2 720K drives  (Total of 1.5 megs of floppy space..  No hard dis
k.)   Runs both MP/M and CP/M.    The size of an epson 80 column printer, excep
t taller (6 inches?)-
-
2) Super CP/M system: CompuPro System 10.. 4 users (Each has its own z80B (8 mh
z) processor..  Full "password entry" protection.. (That is, you can put it onl
ine as a RCP/M and every user will have an account on the system)  Mother proce
ssor is a 10MHZ 8088 (Five Processors total..  That is real processors.. not SI
O controllers! Really neat (Too bad I can't find UNIX for it)
-
40 MEG (SCSI or EDSI--not sure which--really fast, tho') drive (As Drives A->E)
 8" monster drive (In external case with power supply) 600K formatted disks..
 internal 5.25 800K floppy as disk F.  Disk G is a 10 meg tape drive.  I have n
ot used it.. It does work, however.. the software is on the disk.  The is ONE M
EG of memory in this CCP/M MACHINE.
-
4 users.. 2 serial ports for modem and printer (six serials total..) and one pa
rellel printer..  Really decent looking machine (The 8" external drive looks li
ke hell, but you can hide it or leave it off..  If you're running a RCPM outfit
, one generally wants the most bang for their buck.. the extra 600k is sorta ni
ce.)--A decent amount of software is on the HD.
-
Make me an offer..   I have to go back to KAnsas City to get it to have it ship
ped (It would take a few weeks for me to get a chance..)
-
Internet:  U43610@uicvm.uic.edu
Kenneth Ameika

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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 92 21:54:31 EDT
From: eudoh@st6000.sct.edu (Etop Udoh)
Subject: CP/M to DOS
Message-ID: <9206020154.AA18687@st6000.sct.edu>

hi,

  As far as I know, there is a version of kermit written for just
about every computer in existence (don't quote me on that, but as far
as I know - that is true), and it's available by ftp from columbia 
university....

   If you give me more specs on the phillips machine I can look into
getting a term program that will work with it....

 .................................................................
 :     -------------------      SOUTHERN COLLEGE OF TECHNOLOGY   :
 :     |  EUDOH@SCT.EDU  |             MARIETTA, GEORGIA         :
 :     -------------------                                       :
 :      Abandon all hope ye who have entered  " CYBERSPACE "     :
 :...............................................................:

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Date: 3 Jun 92 03:52:42 GMT
From: micro-heart-of-gold.mit.edu!wupost!cs.utexas.edu!utgpu!csd.unb.ca!atlas.cs.upei.ca!caadams@bloom-beacon.mit.edu  (Kenny Adams)
Subject: Re:  bds-c
Message-ID: <1992Jun3.035242.11499@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca>

hi,
	i found bds-c for a z80 at simtel.  it is in   PD2:<CPM.BDSC-1>
through PD2:<CPM.BDSC-4>

kenny
caadams@atlas.cs.upei.ca

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Date: 31 May 92 17:40:11 GMT
From: van-bc!ubc-cs!unixg.ubc.ca!kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca!ersys!davem@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Dave McCrady)
Subject: Re: BDS-C for CP/M ???
Message-ID: <o0FNLB1w164w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>

vadb@binar.tyumen.su (Borovoy Vadim Yurievich) writes:

> Who knows where I can get BDS-C, for CP/M (Z80)?
> 
> --- Vadim --- E-mail vadb@binar.tyumen.su ---
> 
  Try:

  Sage MicroSystems East, 
  1435 Centre St., 
  Newton Centre, MA 01259-2469

Voice:  617-965-3552
Modem:  617-965-7259  (pw=DDT)
Internet: sage@ll.mit.edu  (Jay Sage)


Dave McCrady              davem@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
Edmonton Remote Systems:  Celebrating 10 years of service to Northern Alberta

------------------------------

Date: 28 May 92 04:33:12 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!spool.mu.edu!mips!sdd.hp.com!hpscdc!hplextra!hpcc05!hpyhde4!hpycla!hpergfg2!hprdash!hprnd!gregh@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Greg Holdren)
Subject: Re: CP/M BIOS calls / DEC VT180 (ROBIN)
Message-ID: <450001@hprnd.rose.hp.com>

  Another good book thats goes even deeper than "Soul of CP/M" is
  "The Programmer's CP/M Handbook". The book goes in detail into  the
  BIOS and the calls to it.

  "The Programmer's CP/M Handbook"
  Publisher : Osborne/McGraw-Hill
  Author    : Andy Johnson-Laird
  ISBN      : 0-88134-103-7
  501 pages/paperback

  Greg Holdren
  gregh@hprnd.rose.hp.com

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Date: 2 Jun 92 16:42:45 GMT
From: lynx.msc.cornell.edu!mike@tcgould.tn.cornell.edu  (Mike Heisler)
Subject: SUMMARY: CPM to DOS transfer
Message-ID: <1992Jun2.164245.4005@msc.cornell.edu>

Summary of options to get CPM files to DOS:
====================================================================
Get Kermit for the CPM machines from Columbia archive.
====================================================================
An alternative is a piece of software called "moveit" which uses a serial
link between machines, but is fast at 9600 buad.  Can go CPM to CPM or
CPM to DOS, this will cost money tho and may be trouble to find.
====================================================================
I have used a package called "Uniform" to transfer data form old Kaypro CPM
machines without any problems. The software will set your PC floppy drive
to read literally dozens of different disk formats.

Uniform-PC, from Micro Solutions, Inc,
132 West Lincoln H'way,
DeKalb, Il 60115
(815) 756-3411

The address and phone number are from a manual copyright 1987, but
were correct in 1990.
====================================================================
Get the 22disk package for the pc. It supports most double density
softsectored CP/M formats.

WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL directory PD1:<MSDOS.DSKUTL>
 Filename   Type Length   Date    Description
22DSK138.ZIP  B  193057  920113  CP/M<->Diskette xfer, over 100 formats. SYDEX
or
        wuarchive.wustl.edu:/mirrors/msdos/dskutl/22dsk138.zip
====================================================================
I have a commercial product from Intersecting Concepts to do this, but
I think they have gone out of business, or merged with somebody.
====================================================================
There is (was) a program called "Media Master" which could convert
files from DOS to CP/M or from CP/M to DOS.

-------------

Thanks for the response.

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INFO-CPM Digest             Mon,  8 Jun 92       Volume 92 : Issue   44

Today's Topics:
                aaaagh!!  my forlib.rel is trashed!!!
                     Archives other than Simtel?
                          BDS-C for CP/M ???
                        CP/M software for sale
                    Otrona Attache Documentation?
                              Re:  bds-c
                        Re: BDS-C for CP/M ???
                     Re: CPM to DOS data transfer
     WANTED: info on Cromemco TU-ART S-100 serial/parallel board
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Date: 8 Jun 92 06:18:44 GMT
From: micro-heart-of-gold.mit.edu!wupost!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!galway!dwatola@bloom-beacon.mit.edu  (David A. Watola)
Subject: aaaagh!!  my forlib.rel is trashed!!!
Message-ID: <1992Jun8.061844.15324@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>

somehow, my forlib.rel (microsoft f80) has been trashed and i cannot link to
it any longer.  my originals are 1000 miles away at the bottom of an ammo 
box...

could some kind soul email a uuencoded forlib.rel to me?  i'd really really
appreciate it.

thanks,

dave watola
dwatola@bvd.jpl.nasa.gov
dwatola@nextasy2.eecs.wsu.edu

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Date: 6 Jun 92 07:29:41 GMT
From: van-bc!ubc-cs!destroyer!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!usc!sdd.hp.com!mips!mips!munnari.oz.au!goanna!minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au!lionet!ralphey@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Russell Alphey)
Subject: Archives other than Simtel?
Message-ID: <354@lionet.Wesley.OZ.AU>

I was wondering if any CP/M archives existed other than Simtel.  I've never
seen mention of any.

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Date: 29 May 92 03:41:03 GMT
From: mcsun!fuug!demos!news-server@uunet.uu.net  (Borovoy Vadim Yurievich)
Subject: BDS-C for CP/M ???
Message-ID: <AA_cP9gqr4@binar.tyumen.su>

Who knows where I can get BDS-C, for CP/M (Z80)?

--- Vadim --- E-mail vadb@binar.tyumen.su ---

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Date: 3 Jun 92 16:07:08 GMT
From: micro-heart-of-gold.mit.edu!wupost!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!hobbes.physics.uiowa.edu!ns-mx!umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu!jrblack@bloom-beacon.mit.edu  (James Roger Black)
Subject: CP/M software for sale
Message-ID: <1992Jun3.160708.7878@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu>

I have the following CP/M software for sale.  All of it is legally obtained,
with license numbers, original disks, manuals, etc.  

  Microsoft Fortran-80 3.44
  Microsoft Cobol-80 4.65
  Microsoft muMath/muSimp-80 2.15
  DJR Associates FMS-80 File Management System
  Datamaster MBASIC Accounts Payable/Receivable
  Laboratory Microsystems Z-80 Forth 3.0

I got these from someone else, so I can't make any guarantees.  You pay
your money and you take your chances.  But the price is right:  $10 per
package, $15 for two, $20 for three, etc.  You also pay postage.

I also have two sets of genuine DRC CP/M 2.2 documentation for sale, same
deal.

Reply by email if interested.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Roger Black                                   jrblack@shemtaia.weeg.uiowa.edu
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Sun, 7 Jun 92 04:45:29 EST
From: wilker@hopf.math.purdue.edu (Clarence Wilkerson)
Subject: Otrona Attache Documentation?
Message-ID: <9206070945.AA00945@hopf.math.purdue.edu.math.purdue.edu>

I recently acquired an Otrona, and through the good graces of
Don Maslin and the Dinosaur SIG, a boot disk for CP/M 2.2 and
MSDOS 2.11.
  It's a cute machine, with some graphics and sound capabilities,
I'd like to know more about it. If anyone has manuals, bios listings,
etc, I'd be interested in obtaining copies.
Thanks,

Clarence Wilkerson      \ Bitnet:       wilker%math.purdue.edu@purccvm
Prof. of Math. (topology)\ Internet:    wilker@math.purdue.edu
Dept. of Mathematics      \ messages:   (317) 494-1903, FAX 494-0548
Purdue University,         \ office:    (317) 494-1955 (voice/modem)
W. Lafayette, Indiana 47907 \ 

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Date: 8 Jun 92 04:20:45 GMT
From: att!pacbell.com!pacbell!sactoh0!ijpc!ianj@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Ian Justman)
Subject: Re:  bds-c
Message-ID: <06Jun92124050wlm200@ijpc.UUCP>

KA>hi,
KA>        i found bds-c for a z80 at simtel.  it is in   PD2:<CPM.BDSC-1>
KA>through PD2:<CPM.BDSC-4>

But you only give subdirectories off PD2:.  How about some
filenames?!!??!

---
 * SLMR 2.1a * Ian Justman (ianj@ijpc.UUCP)
                     

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Date: 31 May 92 17:40:11 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!destroyer!ubc-cs!unixg.ubc.ca!kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca!  (Dave McCrady)
Subject: Re: BDS-C for CP/M ???
Message-ID: <o0FNLB1w164w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>

vadb@binar.tyumen.su (Borovoy Vadim Yurievich) writes:

> Who knows where I can get BDS-C, for CP/M (Z80)?
> 
> --- Vadim --- E-mail vadb@binar.tyumen.su ---
> 
  Try:

  Sage MicroSystems East, 
  1435 Centre St., 
  Newton Centre, MA 01259-2469

Voice:  617-965-3552
Modem:  617-965-7259  (pw=DDT)
Internet: sage@ll.mit.edu  (Jay Sage)


Dave McCrady              davem@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
Edmonton Remote Systems:  Celebrating 10 years of service to Northern Alberta

------------------------------

Date: 30 May 92 05:05:05 GMT
From: baron!baron!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil  (Don Maslin)
Subject: Re: CPM to DOS data transfer
Message-ID: <1992May30.050505.18106@baron.uucp>

mike@msc.cornell.edu (Mike Heisler) writes:
>We have some data on two Z80 CPM machines that are being phased out in
>favor of 386 DOS machines.  We need to get some of the data from the
>160K cpm disks to DOS disks.  The two CPM machines are an Osborne and
>a Phillips.  We have Kermit for the Osborne and can transfer the data
>from there at 1200 baud over serial line but would rather not.  The
>Phillips has no kermit and the Osborne kermit doesn't work on it.  Any
>ideas? (even if they cost money)
>
Yes, get Sydex' 22DISK (shareware), or MicroSolutions' UniForm-PC
(commercial), or Spectre Technologies' Media Master (commercial).  Assuming a
5.25" drive on the 386, you should be able to read the CP/M disks directly.  I
confess that I am not sure about Media Master and the Phillips, though.

Good luck.


Keeper of the CP/M System Disk | UUCP: {nosc ucsd crash ncr-sd}!pnet07!donm
Archives for the Dino(saur)SIG | ARPA: baron!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil
- San Diego Computer Society - | INET: donm@pnet07.cts.com

------------------------------

Date: 6 Jun 92 19:59:13 GMT
From: tessi!aardvark!steve@uunet.uu.net  (Steve Willoughby)
Subject: WANTED: info on Cromemco TU-ART S-100 serial/parallel board
Message-ID: <642@aardvark.Rain.COM>

I recently acquired a Cromemco TU-ART (TM) dual serial/dual parallel
S-100 board, without any documentation whatsoever.  I'd like to 
use it in the Altair system I'm trying to resurrect, but need some
more information from anyone who might have or know about one of these.

It's got 2 parallel and 2 serial ports, controlled by a pair of
TI TMS 5501 chips, and there's a block of DIP switches labelled:

                        0R45674567
                        ||||||||||
                        2N<--><-->
                           A   B

So, any info on how to program the 5501's, which I/O port numbers the 
board uses, etc., would be very helpful.

Thanks,
-- 
Steve Willoughby N7PFJ  | "Bart, don't use the Touch of Death on your sister!"
steve@Aardvark.Rain.Com |                             --Marge Simpson
                        |---------------------------------------------------

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Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #45
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INFO-CPM Digest             Tue,  9 Jun 92       Volume 92 : Issue   45

Today's Topics:
                  Apple II CP/M (Microsoft Softcard)
                   Re: Archives other than Simtel?
                              Re:  bds-c
              Re: help needed reading EXXON system disks
                      Where's tetris for CP/M ?
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Date: 8 Jun 92 16:58:22 GMT
From: tulane!darwin.sura.net!cs.ucf.edu!tarpit!tous!bilver!jwt!aphelps@ames.arc.nasa.gov  (Austin Phelps)
Subject: Apple II CP/M (Microsoft Softcard)
Message-ID: <ZN82LB1w164w@jwt.UUCP>

I got bought the card above. Works fine except the 16 sector disk has 4 
bad tracks (render most of the utilities nonfunctional).

Does anyone has this software to

A) possible copy
B) Or buy.

thanks.

Austin C. Phelps                bbs-aphelps@jwt.UUCP

"Let History Never Forget the Name Enterprise" Yesterday Enterprise

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Date: 9 Jun 92 06:57:03 GMT
From: dtix!darwin.sura.net!Sirius.dfn.de!zrz.tu-berlin.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!fauern!LRZnews!loesch@uunet.uu.net  (Andreas Loesch)
Subject: Re: Archives other than Simtel?
Message-ID: <loesch.708073023@hera>

ralphey@lionet.Wesley.OZ.AU (Russell Alphey) writes:

>I was wondering if any CP/M archives existed other than Simtel.  I've never
>seen mention of any.

Since I am new in this group I have even never heard of Simtel. What's
the complete address?

Thanx,
Andi
--
  Andreas Loesch	Phone   : (+49 89)3209 4086
  Univ. Muenchen	FAX     : (+49 89)3209 4059
  Am Coulombwall 1	E-mail  : loesch@hera.deb.physik.uni-muenchen.de
W-8046 Garching

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Date: 8 Jun 92 17:05:07 GMT
From: baron!baron!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil  (Don Maslin)
Subject: Re:  bds-c
Message-ID: <1992Jun8.170507.2472@baron.uucp>

Here they are:

Directory PD2:<CPM.BDSC-1>
 Filename   Type Length   Date    Description
==============================================
BDS-C.POLICY  A     459  831103  Update policy for BDS-C
BDS46.LQB     B    3840  850209  No description available
BDSCIO.H      A    5235  830909  No description available
BDSCIO50.H    A    3206  830909  No description available
BDSNEW.CQM    B    9472  850209  No description available
BDSNEW.MSG    A    1109  831128  No description available
C.CCC         B    1152  850209  No description available
CASM.CQ       B   13568  850209  No description available
CASM.DQC      B    4864  850209  No description available
CASM.SUB      A     193  830909  No description available
CCC.AQM       B   15872  850209  No description available
DEFF.CRL      B    8704  850209  No description available
DEFF2.CQM     B   14080  850209  No description available
DEFF2.CRL     B    5888  850209  No description available
DEFF2A.CQM    B    7296  850209  No description available
DIO.CQ        B    5888  850209  No description available
DIO.H         A     791  830909  No description available
FLOAT.CQ      B    4864  850209  No description available
FLOAT.DQC     B    4224  850209  No description available
FLTSUM.CQ     B     896  850209  No description available
FP.CQM        B    7168  850209  No description available
HWARE50.H     A    2110  830909  No description available
NOBOOT.CQ     B    1920  850209  No description available
NOCLR.CQ      B    1792  850209  No description available
SIEVE.CQ      B    1024  850209  No description available
STDLIB1.CQ    B    6272  850209  No description available
STDLIB2.CQ    B   11392  850209  No description available
WILDEX16.CQ   B    4096  850209  No description available
WILDEX20.CQ   B    5248  850214  No description available
WILDEXP.CQ    B    3584  850209  No description available

Directory PD2:<CPM.BDSC-2>
 Filename   Type Length   Date    Description
==============================================
CHARIO.CQ     B    2816  850209  No description available
CRYPT.COM     B    7424  850209  No description available
CRYPT.CQ      B    1664  850209  No description available
L2.CQ         B   14080  850209  No description available
L2.DQC        B    8832  850209  No description available
L2-225.ARK    B   66141  880618  Improved L2 linker for BDS-C compile
L2LINK.FIX    A    1385  830909  No description available
LOAD.CQ       B    1536  850209  No description available
LPR.CQ        B    2048  850209  No description available
LPRINT.CQ     B     896  850209  No description available
MAKOVL.CQ     B   12928  850209  No description available
NL2.CQ        B   16256  850209  No description available
PH.CQ         B    4224  850209  No description available
PORTIO.CQ     B    2432  850209  No description available
PORTIO.H      A     378  830909  No description available
SCOTT.CQ      B    2688  850209  No description available
TELED12.CQ    B   12928  850209  No description available
TELED12.DQC   B    4224  850209  No description available
UNIQ.CQ       B    3200  850209  No description available
UNTIP.CQ      B    1664  850209  No description available
WAVY.CQ       B    1792  850209  No description available
XC.CQ         B   13696  850209  No description available

Directory PD2:<CPM.BDSC-3>
 Filename   Type Length   Date    Description
==============================================
ALPH.CQ       B    1536  850209  No description available
APPEND1.CQ    B    1536  850209  No description available
CAT.CQ        B     896  850209  No description available
CDIR.CQ       B    5248  850209  No description available
CIO.CQ        B    2432  850209  No description available
CP.CQ         B    2816  850209  No description available
ECHO.CQ       B    1280  850209  No description available
FP.CQ         B    3840  850209  No description available
FS.CQ         B    1408  850209  No description available
LCHECK.CQ     B    2688  850209  No description available
LONG1.CQ      B    2048  850209  No description available
LONG1.CQM     B    5504  850209  No description available
LONG1.CRL     B    2560  850209  No description available
LONG1.DQC     B    3200  850209  No description available
PAT.CQ        B    7424  850209  No description available
PAT.H         A    1629  830909  No description available
QSORT.TIP     A    1279  830909  No description available
RM.CQ         B     640  850209  No description available
RMF.CQ        B    1024  850209  No description available
RMX.CQ        B     896  850209  No description available
SAMPLE.CQM    B     768  850209  No description available
SD.CQ         B     640  850209  No description available
SORT3.CQ      B    7040  850209  No description available
STDLIB.DQC    B   10752  850209  No description available
STRIPC.CQ     B    1536  850209  No description available
SYMP.CQ       B    2432  850209  No description available
USERCODE.CQ   B    2176  850209  No description available
V143.DQC      B    5888  850209  No description available
V144.DQC      B    4096  850209  No description available
V145.DQC      B   13568  850209  No description available
V146.DQC      B    7552  850209  No description available
V150-2.DQC    B    8576  850209  No description available
WC.CQ         B    1664  850209  No description available

Directory PD2:<CPM.BDSC-4>
 Filename   Type Length   Date    Description
==============================================
ACRL.LBR      B   36992  880107  Assembler for use with BDS-C
APPEND.CQ     B    1536  850209  No description available
BDSLIB.ARK    B   16989  880103  Standard C Library for BDS-C 1.5
CONFIG12.COM  B   18816  850209  No description available
CONFIG12.CQ   B   16128  850209  No description available
CURLY.ARK     B    4552  870818  Check for unmatched curly braces
DEVICE.CQ     B    6272  850209  No description available
DI.CQ         B    2176  850209  No description available
NRO.CQ        B   32256  850209  No description available
TAIL.CQ       B    1792  850209  No description available
TINIT.CQ      B    5504  850209  No description available
UCSDTRAN.CQ   B    9856  850209  No description available

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Date: 7 Jun 92 01:18:40 GMT
From: haven.umd.edu!darwin.sura.net!mips!mips!munnari.oz.au!comp.vuw.ac.nz!actrix!naos!ewen@ames.arc.nasa.gov  (Ewen McNeill)
Subject: Re: help needed reading EXXON system disks
Message-ID: <TDX1LB1w164w@naos.actrix.gen.nz>

rh@rtgx.hanse.de (Ruediger Hoppe) writes:

> suspected some CP/M format. So I organized an CP/M reading software from
> SYDEX, but no luck with all the 190+ different formats.
>
Speaking of disk reading software from Sydex (ie, 22DISK), does anyone
know the latest registration cost?  The shareware version I have here is
dated in 1988, and lists US$15 as the registration cost.

Any other details about Sydex (ie, address/phone if changed, etc) would
be appreciated too.

Email replies please - I'll provide a summary in two weeks time. Thanks
in advance.

> Ruediger Hoppe        | Putting fear beside him, he trusts in beauty blind

--
Ewen McNeill, ewen@naos.actrix.gen.nz (or ewen@actrix.gen.nz)

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Date: 8 Jun 92 13:13:48 GMT
From: mcsun!news.funet.fi!cc.tut.fi!kent@uunet.uu.net  (Kentt{l{ Marko)
Subject: Where's tetris for CP/M ?
Message-ID: <1992Jun8.131348.28644@cc.tut.fi>

I know there's PD tetris for CP/M but where to look for it ???

Thanks guys, Make

-- 
.......................................................
: MAKE MY DAY : Marko Kentt{l{ : Paununkatu 5  : Love :
:     or      : kent@cc.tut.fi : 33700 Tampere :  it  :
:   180 ov.   : kent@ee.tut.fi : Finland       : LOUD :

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INFO-CPM Digest             Thu, 11 Jun 92       Volume 92 : Issue   46

Today's Topics:
                        Aztec C: Z80 or 8080 ?
           Re: Apple II CP/M (Microsoft Softcard) (2 msgs)
                             Re: Aztec C
                 Re: Aztec C: Z80 or 8080 ? (2 msgs)
                         Re:  bds-c (2 msgs)
                         S-100 stuff for sale
                 Wanted: Clock card for N* Advantage
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Date: 10 Jun 92 01:02:12 GMT
From: pa.dec.com!nntpd2.cxo.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!sousa.ltn.dec.com!kxovax.enet.dec.com!secrist@decwrl.dec.com  (Strong datatypes for weak minds.)
Subject: Aztec C: Z80 or 8080 ?
Message-ID: <1147@sousa.ltn.dec.com>

Which one did it build ?

Regards,
rcs

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Date: 10 Jun 92 15:36:20 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!swrinde!emory!athena.cs.uga.edu!fuller@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (James P. H. Fuller)
Subject: Re: Apple II CP/M (Microsoft Softcard)
Message-ID: <1992Jun10.153620.29525@athena.cs.uga.edu>

> I got bought the card above. Works fine except the 16 sector disk
> has 4 bad tracks (render most of the utilities nonfunctional).
>
> Does anyone has this software to
>
> A) possible copy
> B) Or buy.

     I have the 16-sector Microsoft disk but it won't boot on my
present Z80 card, which is for CP/M 3.0.  However, all this stuff is
on disks that are physically Apple-format so very probably the CP/M
3.0 diskcopy program would work to clone a CP/M 2.2 disk (it clones
Apple ProDos disks just fine, doesn't seem to care what the bits
*do* as long as they're in the right place....)  Send me mail if you
want to pursue this.  I'll happily run you off a copy for free but
would like to be reimbursed for the cost of disk, mailer and postage.

                                            -- jf

|James P. H. Fuller, research coordinator       Soil/Water Biology Lab |
|                                               Institute of Ecology   |
|work: fuller@athena.cs.uga.edu                 University of Georgia  |
|home: (crom2 rejoins the bitstream one day)    Athens, GA 30606       |

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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 92 07:56:17 -0500
From: curts@tmpcu.mdc.com (Curt Schroeder)
Subject: Re: Apple II CP/M (Microsoft Softcard)
Message-ID: <9206111256.AA07209@tmpcu.mdc.com>

Would the person who was looking for an Apple II CP/M 2.2 system disk please
contact me via mail?  I would be glad to help, but did not succeed in sending
a mail message to him.

Curt

Curt Schroeder | McDonnell Douglas Missile Systems Company      |
----------------------------------------------------------------|
These opinions are mine, mine, mine!  I  | curts@tmpcu.mdc.com  |
am not an instantiation of Std_Employee! | - Apple II Forever - |


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Date: 10 Jun 92 10:46:00 GMT
From: mcsun!news.funet.fi!kuusi.metla.fi!metla!saarikoski@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Re: Aztec C
Message-ID: <1992Jun10.124600.1@metla.fi>

There are two versions of the Aztec C Compiler in the package.  One 
generates code for the 8080, the other for Z80.  In version 1.05 (??)
Commercial edition, they were called cii and czii; the one with a 'z'
was the z80 compiler.  I have used the z80 version, ported decus cpp
for it etc, but it contains some aggravating bugs.  One that I haven't
been able to forget was that if(foo) and if(!foo) produced identical
assembler code.  1.05 isn't the latest release, though.

      Send me mail if you want the cpp - you might easily need it if
      your source contains a lot of #defines etc: the compiler is a
      one pass one and doesn't have lots of space to use when running.

      Asmo

      saarikos@paju.metla.fi

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Date: 10 Jun 92 10:14:39 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!hellgate.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!ivie@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (CP/M lives!)
Subject: Re: Aztec C: Z80 or 8080 ?
Message-ID: <1992Jun10.041439.56489@cc.usu.edu>

In article <1147@sousa.ltn.dec.com>, secrist@kxovax.enet.dec.com (Strong datatypes for weak minds.) writes:
> 
> Which one did it build ?

The Aztec C that I've got on this machine has two flavors: CC builds 8080 and
CZ builds Z80. Frankly, the Z80 code isn't much of an improvement over the
8080 code; I think it just stores an occasional temporary in IX or IY, but
it's been a long time since I looked at the output.

Roger ivie
ivie@cc.usu.edu

------------------------------

Date: 10 Jun 92 13:43:04 GMT
From: iWarp.intel.com|ichips!intelhf!endeavor!george@uunet.uu.net  (George Rachor Jr. )
Subject: Re: Aztec C: Z80 or 8080 ?
Message-ID: <1992Jun10.134304.27319@endeavor.intel.com>

From article <1147@sousa.ltn.dec.com>, by secrist@kxovax.enet.dec.com (Strong datatypes for weak minds.):
> 
> Which one did it build ?
> 
> Regards,
> rcs
>

My version of Aztec C requires a Z80
 
-- 

George Rachor Jr.
Intel Corporation

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Date: 3 Jun 92 03:52:42 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!utgpu!csd.unb.ca!atlas.cs.upei.ca!caadams@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Kenny Adams)
Subject: Re:  bds-c
Message-ID: <1992Jun3.035242.11499@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca>

hi,
	i found bds-c for a z80 at simtel.  it is in   PD2:<CPM.BDSC-1>
through PD2:<CPM.BDSC-4>

kenny
caadams@atlas.cs.upei.ca

------------------------------

Date: 9 Jun 92 19:17:21 GMT
From: mcsun!sun4nl!gufalet.let.rug.nl!rug4!laverman@uunet.uu.net  (Bert Laverman)
Subject: Re:  bds-c
Message-ID: <1992Jun9.191721.13864@cs.rug.nl>

That was a nice listing, but as the file names suggest, it is
NOT BDS-C. Rather, it is a collection of useful programs and
routines for use with BDS-C. BDS-C itself is NOT PD.

Greetings, Bert
-- 
#include <std/disclaimer>

  Bert Laverman,  Dept. of Computing Science, Groningen University
  Friendly mail to: laverman@cs.rug.nl      The rest to: /dev/null

------------------------------

Date: 9 Jun 92 18:39:33 GMT
From: panix!moskowit@nyu.edu  (Len Moskowitz)
Subject: S-100 stuff for sale
Message-ID: <1992Jun9.183933.1191@panix.com>

     I have some old S-100 stuff I'd be happy to sell.
     
     	Ithaca InterSystems 64k RAM board -- $10
     	Ithaca InterSystems VIO board -- $10
     	North Star ZPB 4 MHz Z-80 CPU (modified to meet IEEE-696) -- $10
     	Morrow motherboard (21 slot?) in cabinet with Sunny S-100 
		power supply with card cage -- $25
     	2 Siemens (World) 8" SSDD disk drives (interchangeable with Shugart 
		801)in case with power supply -- $35 (very heavy!)
     	Heath/Zenith H-19 terminal, B&W -- $25

	I have documentation for all items.  Everything was working when 
	taken out of service.
     
     If you're interested, drop me a note.  Buyer pays shipping.
     
     
     Len Moskowitz
     moskowit@tronsbox.xei.com (preferred address)
     moskowit@panix.com

Len,

I've been inundated with replies (yes - it's hard to believe!)  Several people
have given me stuff (ie., shipping cost only), so right now I don't expect 
that I'll have to take you up on your offer.

Thanks for your reply,
Adam.

-- 
Len Moskowitz
moskowit@panix.com

------------------------------

Date: 10 Jun 92 03:55:12 GMT
From: munnari.oz.au!mel.dit.csiro.au!yarra!cm@uunet.uu.net  (Charles Meo)
Subject: Wanted: Clock card for N* Advantage
Message-ID: <79089@yarra.pyramid.com.au>

Does anyone know where I might pick up such a beastie--or if they even exist?

Chuck
-- 
email: cm@yarra.pyramid.com.au
'The Dark Light is inherently neither good nor evil'

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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 92 14:45:25 MDT
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Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #47
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INFO-CPM Digest             Fri, 12 Jun 92       Volume 92 : Issue   47

Today's Topics:
                                 IMSI
                          Kaypro Liquidation
           MicroBee DM30 (Cromemco 3102) Terminal FOR SALE
                   Re: Kaypro Liquidation (3 msgs)
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 10 Jun 92 14:23:03 GMT
From: ftpbox!mothost!lmpsbbs!comm.mot.com!joem@uunet.uu.net  (DX531 Joe Markovich)
Subject: IMSI
Message-ID: <1992Jun10.142303.2798@lmpsbbs.mot.com>

To anyone out there!

I recently picked up an IMSI CPM system and about 100 CPM boards.

I would like to get the system running. Mainly for the same reason
people restore old cars. Is there anyone who still knows how to 
configure a BIOS to get this beast running? Or can tell me what
areas in the BIOS needs to be adjusted? I have not yet powered the
system up, but there should be enough part there to get something
running.

------------------------------

Date: 11 Jun 92 15:28:44 GMT
From: micro-heart-of-gold.mit.edu!wupost!uwm.edu!linac!uchinews!ellis!gjw1@bloom-beacon.mit.edu  (Gregory J. Watson)
Subject: Kaypro Liquidation
Message-ID: <1992Jun11.152844.18940@midway.uchicago.edu>

	From the New York Times business section, June 11, 1992.

{Start article}
_Judge's Conversion to Bring Kaypro Liquidation_

	A judge said he would convert the troubled Kaypro Corporation
from bankruptcy status, which affords the personal computer maker
protection from its creditors, to bankruptcy status, which calls for
the company to liquidate its assets.  Federal Bankruptcy Judge James
Myers said last week that he would convert Kaypro from Chapter 11 to
Chapter 7, which requires liquidation.

	Howard Justus, the trustee named by the court to oversee the
final operations, said little appeared to be left of the once
fast-growing computer maker to liquidate, particularly when compared
with claims against the company.  Mr. Justus estimated that total
claims reached $20 million.  "All that's left is the cleanup," he
said.  In the two years the company has operated under bankruptcy
protection, Kaypro built up $2 million more in debt, Mr. Justus said.
Under the law, the $2 million plus an additional $1 million in debt
accumulated during pre-bankruptcy would have had to have been repaid
in full before Kaypro could be reorganized.  (AP)
{End Article}

	Oh well, my Kaypro II'83 is officially an orphan now, along
with our three other slightly younger Kaypros.  A sad day.

					Gregory Watson
					gjw1@midway.uchicago.edu
					g-watson@uchicago.edu

------------------------------

Date: 10 Jun 92 12:51:59 GMT
From: van-bc!ubc-cs!unixg.ubc.ca!kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca!access.usask.ca!ccu.umanitoba.ca!rflukes@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Richard F. Lukes)
Subject: MicroBee DM30 (Cromemco 3102) Terminal FOR SALE
Message-ID: <1992Jun10.125159.21213@ccu.umanitoba.ca>

I have a MicroBee DM30 (Cromemco 3102) terminal which I would like to
sell for $20.  These terminals do not emulate a VT100,  or any other
common terminal standard.  My hope is that somewhere a Cromemco owner
will give it a new home.  All manuals included.  Terminal is in
excellent shape.

-- Rich

P.S.  If someone out there has the correct termcap entry for this
      terminal I would be very interested in a copy.
-- 
Richard F. Lukes                    rflukes@ccu.UManitoba.CA
Computer Science Department         (or rflukes@ccm.UManitoba.CA)
University of Manitoba
WORK: (204)-474-8696                HOME: (204)-257-6701

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Date: 11 Jun 92 18:45:04 GMT
From: centerline!jimf@uunet.uu.net  (Jim Frost)
Subject: Re: Kaypro Liquidation
Message-ID: <jimf.708288304@centerline.com>

gjw1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Gregory J. Watson) writes:
>	Oh well, my Kaypro II'83 is officially an orphan now, along
>with our three other slightly younger Kaypros.  A sad day.

My machine has a brother in Chicago!  I've got an '83 too.  I used it
regularly for word processing until buying a high-speed modem and
finding out it couldn't sustain 2400bps communications, much less 9600
or higher.  I had to buy an actual MS-LOSS machine.

The Kaypro has its place in my heart though, and occasionally makes a
very nice stool.

jim frost
jimf@centerline.com

------------------------------

Date: 12 Jun 92 00:03:14 GMT
From: micro-heart-of-gold.mit.edu!mintaka.lcs.mit.edu!ogicse!emory!athena.cs.uga.edu!fuller@bloom-beacon.mit.edu  (James P. H. Fuller)
Subject: Re: Kaypro Liquidation
Message-ID: <1992Jun12.000314.12343@athena.cs.uga.edu>

gjw1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Gregory J. Watson) writes:

> but also still in use.  More seriously, if I upgrade my 386 (sorry,
> but I still actually have MS-DOS versions of Perfect Writer, The Word
> Plus, and a few other things on it :-) to a UNIX machine, I was thinking
> of using the old Kaypros as terminals.  My brother is still using one
> of the II's for nearly all of his stuff.

and wieland@ea.ecn.purdue.edu (Jeffrey J Wieland) responds:

> I've used my '84 2X as a terminal at 19200 bps.  How, you ask?  Interrupts!
> If you have a copy of Mite that came with your Kaypro, you're all set for
> speedy communications.  Mite is pretty bogus as far as scripts goes, and
> my version lacks the nifty long packet Y- and Z-Modem stuff, but it gets
> the job done.  And it uses interrupts to avoid dropping characters.
> 
> Their is a P.D. program on Simtel20 in the Kaypro directory (called 
> fastterm or something *term) that also uses interrupts, but it can't
> perform file transfers, and you have to reboot your Kaypro when you
> are finished.  The source is there too for your hacking pleasure.


     There's always kermit, which for terminal purposes does very reliable
VT100 emulation and also has a file transfer protocol (not the fastest that
ever was, but at 19200bps you probably won't notice.)  I'm still trying to
make kermit-80 work on the Z80 card in me auld Apple but kermit-65 runs
fine on the 6502.  Wants interrupts *and* xon/xoff to keep from dropping
characters at high speed, however, and the combination of the two means that
19200 isn't noticeably faster than 9600.  One of these days I'm going to
hide the Unix box under the table and tell people I have the first AppleII
in the Known Universe to hit Dhrystone 20,000....

     Has anyone else tried to build CP/M kermit-80 from the files on
watsun.cc.columbia.edu?



| James P. H. Fuller, Research Coordinator        Soil Biology Laboratory |
|                                                 Institute of Ecology    |
| work: fuller@athena.cs.uga.edu                  University of Georgia   |
| home: (crom2 rejoins to the bitstream one day)  Athens, GA U.S.A.       |

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Date: 12 Jun 92 16:01:35 GMT
From: centerline!jimf@uunet.uu.net  (Jim Frost)
Subject: Re: Kaypro Liquidation
Message-ID: <jimf.708364895@centerline.com>

wieland@ea.ecn.purdue.edu (Jeffrey J Wieland) writes:

>In article <jimf.708288304@centerline.com> jimf@centerline.com (Jim Frost) writes:
>>My machine has a brother in Chicago!  I've got an '83 too.  I used it
>>regularly for word processing until buying a high-speed modem and
>>finding out it couldn't sustain 2400bps communications, much less 9600
>>or higher.  I had to buy an actual MS-LOSS machine.

>I've used my '84 2X as a terminal at 19200 bps.  How, you ask? Interrupts!

It was my impression that the '84 had more advanced hardware in a
number of places than the '83 (including serial I/O).  If this is not
the case then the three modem programs I tried all screwed the pooch.
I used the "TERM" program but it started loosing at 2400bps.  I used
the "mdm700" or some such but it wouldn't even try anything faster
than 1200.  The same limitation existed for one other program I tried.

>If you have a copy of Mite that came with your Kaypro, you're all set for
>speedy communications.

'Mite' didn't ship with the '83's so far as I can tell.

All of this became moot when I bought a PC to handle communications.
It took awhile but I finally got it talking to the modem at 38kbps and
everyone's happy.

>Use a Kaypro for a stool????  I think we could find it a good home
>somewhere.

Only occasionally.  It's got some very interesting games and my one
and only copy of my address list so it still gets used, just not all
the time anymore.

jim frost
jimf@centerline.com

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Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #48
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INFO-CPM Digest             Sat, 13 Jun 92       Volume 92 : Issue   48

Today's Topics:
                      Equivalent of AUTOEXEC.BAT
                   Help completing my CP/M system!
                          Need to find ZCPR3
                   Re: Kaypro Liquidation (3 msgs)
                    Re: Where's tetris for CP/M ?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 13 Jun 92 18:20:55 GMT
From: vuse.vanderbilt.edu!krish@uunet.uu.net  (P Krishnan)
Subject: Equivalent of AUTOEXEC.BAT
Message-ID: <1992Jun13.182055.2290@vuse.vanderbilt.edu>

I just acquired a Rainbow 100 with CP/M.  From the dim past I recall
there being a way to automatically execute a set of commands on startup.
Only I don't recall the name of such a file (this is the equivalent of
autoexec.bat on messyDOS).  Please reply by e-mail.

Thanks.

--Krish
-- 
--Krish

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Date: 13 Jun 92 05:04:29 GMT
From: news.cs.indiana.edu!uceng.uc.edu!schriste@purdue.edu  (Steven Christensen)
Subject: Help completing my CP/M system!
Message-ID: <1992Jun13.050429.22099@uceng.UC.EDU>

Hi All,

	I recently purcheased a CP/M machine based on the Intel iSBC
86/05 processor board. It came with a startup disk with PIP on it,
but I want to do some development on it, and it is missing some
key files, like ASM86 and GENCMD. It uses 8" disks. Does someone
have these so I could make a development system? I believe that
once I get the ASM and GENCMD, I can download an XMODEM program
and start transferring the CP/M binaries, right? I looked
through the Simtel CPM section and need to study that a little more.

	Please send mail if you can help me out. Thanks!

		Steven

P.S. This is a system from '82....



-- 
Steven V. Christensen
U.C. College of Eng.
schriste@uceng.uc.edu (this is forwarded to...)
schriste@pauling.che.uc.edu (this is preferred)

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Date: 13 Jun 92 14:18:26 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!darwin.sura.net!europa.asd.contel.com!emory!kd4nc!kc4wze@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Randall)
Subject: Need to find ZCPR3
Message-ID: <1992Jun13.141826.22444@kd4nc.uucp>

I would like to find out were to get ZCPR3.  I would also like to

know if ZCPR3 comes with enough information to taylor it to my

hardware.  I have toyed with the idea of converting a Radio Shack

Model 3 to run CP/M.  To do this I will need to be able to switch 

RAM into the lower 16K where the RS has ROM and memory mapped I/O.

I think I can handle the hardware changes but I would then need to

be able to taylor the Zsystem to the new hardware.  I guess I will

need to write a BIOS or something.  I know ZSystem has been ported

to several Z80 platforms; is the platform specific code in the 

public domain?

------------------------------

Date: 11 Jun 92 19:49:00 GMT
From: sun-barr!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!linac!uchinews!ellis!gjw1@ames.arc.nasa.gov  (Gregory J. Watson)
Subject: Re: Kaypro Liquidation
Message-ID: <1992Jun11.194900.2747@midway.uchicago.edu>

In article <jimf.708288304@centerline.com> jimf@centerline.com (Jim Frost) writes:
>gjw1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Gregory J. Watson) writes:
>>	Oh well, my Kaypro II'83 is officially an orphan now, along
>>with our three other slightly younger Kaypros.  A sad day.
>
>My machine has a brother in Chicago!  I've got an '83 too.  I used it
>regularly for word processing until buying a high-speed modem and
>finding out it couldn't sustain 2400bps communications, much less 9600
>or higher.  I had to buy an actual MS-LOSS machine.
>
>The Kaypro has its place in my heart though, and occasionally makes a
>very nice stool.
>
>jim frost
>jimf@centerline.com

	Stool is one possibility, but since we have 2 II'83's and one
Kaypro 1, I was thinking of trying more along the lines of a coffee
table.  The Kaypro XL we have is a PC compatible and is the wrong size
but also still in use.  More seriously, if I upgrade my 386 (sorry,
but I still actually have MS-DOS versions of Perfect Writer, The Word
Plus, and a few other things on it :-) to a UNIX machine, I was thinking
of using the old Kaypros as terminals.  My brother is still using one
of the II's for nearly all of his stuff.

	I'm surprised you had speed problems on the serial port.
We've used ours at 9600 baud over a null modem link with no problems.

	I felt rather insulted over the summer when my mother
suggested getting rid of the Kaypros (they actually reside in
Washington).  To be precise, she asked: "Is there a museum which would
take them?"

					Gregory Watson

------------------------------

Date: 11 Jun 92 22:09:12 GMT
From: mentor.cc.purdue.edu!noose.ecn.purdue.edu!ea.ecn.purdue.edu!wieland@purdue.edu  (Jeffrey J Wieland)
Subject: Re: Kaypro Liquidation
Message-ID: <1992Jun11.220912.28855@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>

In article <jimf.708288304@centerline.com> jimf@centerline.com (Jim Frost) writes:
>My machine has a brother in Chicago!  I've got an '83 too.  I used it
>regularly for word processing until buying a high-speed modem and
>finding out it couldn't sustain 2400bps communications, much less 9600
>or higher.  I had to buy an actual MS-LOSS machine.
>
>The Kaypro has its place in my heart though, and occasionally makes a
>very nice stool.
>
>jim frost
>jimf@centerline.com

I've used my '84 2X as a terminal at 19200 bps.  How, you ask?  Interrupts!
If you have a copy of Mite that came with your Kaypro, you're all set for
speedy communications.  Mite is pretty bogus as far as scripts goes, and
my version lacks the nifty long packet Y- and Z-Modem stuff, but it gets
the job done.  And it uses interrupts to avoid dropping characters.

Their is a P.D. program on Simtel20 in the Kaypro directory (called 
fastterm or something *term) that also uses interrupts, but it can't
perform file transfers, and you have to reboot your Kaypro when you
are finished.  The source is there too for your hacking pleasure.

Use a Kaypro for a stool????  I think we could find it a good home
somewhere.
--
			    Jeff Wieland
			wieland@ecn.purdue.edu

------------------------------

Date: 13 Jun 92 21:07:58 GMT
From: mccc!pjh@princeton.edu  (Pete Holsberg)
Subject: Re: Kaypro Liquidation
Message-ID: <1992Jun13.210758.28280@mccc.edu>

In article <1992Jun11.220912.28855@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> wieland@ea.ecn.purdue.edu (Jeffrey J Wieland) writes:
=I've used my '84 2X as a terminal at 19200 bps.  How, you ask?  Interrupts!
=If you have a copy of Mite that came with your Kaypro, you're all set for
=speedy communications.  Mite is pretty bogus as far as scripts goes, and
=my version lacks the nifty long packet Y- and Z-Modem stuff, but it gets
=the job done.  And it uses interrupts to avoid dropping characters.
=
=Their is a P.D. program on Simtel20 in the Kaypro directory (called 
=fastterm or something *term) that also uses interrupts, but it can't
=perform file transfers, and you have to reboot your Kaypro when you
=are finished.  The source is there too for your hacking pleasure.

Wasn't there a version of YAM for the Kaypro? That'll do terminal
emulation and file transfer, although I don't know whether ZMODEM came
after MS-DOS or before.

------------------------------

Date: 12 Jun 92 19:11:11 GMT
From: van-bc!ubc-cs!destroyer!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!spool.mu.edu!hri.com!noc.near.net!wpi.WPI.EDU!penny.WPI.EDU!ear@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Eric A Rasmussen)
Subject: Re: Where's tetris for CP/M ?
Message-ID: <1992Jun12.191111.20626@wpi.WPI.EDU>

In article <1992Jun8.131348.28644@cc.tut.fi> kent@cc.tut.fi (Kentt{l{ Marko) writes:
>
>I know there's PD tetris for CP/M but where to look for it ???

I've got it.  I don't remember where from, though.  Any good suggestions on
how I could make it publically available?

+---------< Eric A. Rasmussen - Mr. Neat-O (tm) >---------+ +< Email Address >+
|   A real engineer never reads the instructions first.   | | ear@wpi.wpi.edu |
|   (They figure out how it works by playing with it.)    | | ear%wpi@wpi.edu |
+---------------------------------------------------------+ +-----------------+
                     ((( In Stereo Where Available )))

------------------------------

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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 92 00:24:55 MDT
From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL
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Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #49
To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL
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INFO-CPM Digest             Mon, 15 Jun 92       Volume 92 : Issue   49

Today's Topics:
                      Equivalent of AUTOEXEC.BAT
                help needed reading EXXON system disks
                          Kaypro ][ for sale
                          Kaypro Schematics
                Looking for CPM KAMAS outliner program
                     RE: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #47
                   Re: Kaypro Liquidation (2 msgs)
         Wanted: Vector Boot CP/M disk and other software....
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 13 Jun 92 18:20:55 GMT
From: krish@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (P Krishnan)
Subject: Equivalent of AUTOEXEC.BAT
Keywords: CP/M, boot
Message-ID: <1992Jun13.182055.2290@vuse.vanderbilt.edu>

I just acquired a Rainbow 100 with CP/M.  From the dim past I recall
there being a way to automatically execute a set of commands on startup.
Only I don't recall the name of such a file (this is the equivalent of
autoexec.bat on messyDOS).  Please reply by e-mail.

Thanks.

--Krish
-- 
--Krish

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Date: 5 Jun 92 10:01:33 GMT
From: rh@rtgx.hanse.de (Ruediger Hoppe)
Subject: help needed reading EXXON system disks
Keywords: exxon, disks
Message-ID: <1992Jun05.100133.1860@rtgx.hanse.de>

Hi netters,

I need some help in converting several disks (hopefully the files on them)
into any PC format. The problem is, that I don't know how to read the disks.
The system they where written with is called 'EXXON office system'. That's
labeled on the disks, and, as I was told, stood on the hardware too. At least
EXXON. 
These machines are already out of work for some years, and I assume they 
are at least 10 years old.
First try in my AT-clone 5,25" drive failed, of course. From the age I 
suspected some CP/M format. So I organized an CP/M reading software from
SYDEX, but no luck with all the 190+ different formats.

Does anyone know this system? Does anyone know how to read the disks (5,25",
DSDD, 96tpi) with an AT-floppy/controller?

Please e-mail me, or post in comp.os.msdos.apps.

Thanks in advance
    Ruediger
-- 
Ruediger Hoppe        | Putting fear beside him, he trusts in beauty blind
rh@rtgx.hanse.de      | He slips into the nectar,  
...!uunet!mcsun!unido | Leaving his shredded clothes behind. 
   !mcshh!rtgx!rh     | (The Lamia, Genesis) 

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Date: 15 Jun 92 03:52:06 GMT
From: stern6@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Stern)
Subject: Kaypro ][ for sale
Message-ID: <stern6.708580326@husc10>

It works; it has a handful of software (Wordstar & related utilities).

What am I offered?

******************************************************************************
         Michael Stern        *  "I love children, especially when they cry,
                              *   for then someone takes them away."  
   stern6@husc.harvard.edu    *                         -Nancy Mitford
******************************************************************************

------------------------------

Date: 13 Jun 92 23:44:59 GMT
From: johnm@cajal.uoregon.edu (John Martin)
Subject: Kaypro Schematics
Keywords: n
Message-ID: <1992Jun13.234459.21254@nntp.uoregon.edu>

I have a Kaypro II that someone gave to me, but no sofware came with it.
After much searching, I found some OS disks, and discovered that the
machine does not seem to even try to read the disk drives.  After
swapping with a known good drive, I figured the problem is upstream from
them.

This all leads up to my question:  Does anybody have Kaypro
schematics???  I know that the now defunct Micro Cornucopia used to sell
them, but I never had the need.  Now they are gone...

Thanks in advance, and if you can help, please respond via e-mail.


============================================================================
| John Martin                                      johnm@cajal.uoregon.edu |  
| Institute of Neuroscience                           University of Oregon |
| Eugene, OR                                                         97402 |
============================================================================

------------------------------

Date: 5 Jun 92 17:54:24 GMT
From: parny@u.washington.edu
Subject: Looking for CPM KAMAS outliner program
Message-ID: <1992Jun5.175424.29712@u.washington.edu>

I'd like to find a copy of the old CPM outliner program, KAMAS, to run on
my Kaypro 4.  Anyone out there have a copy they'd like to get rid of cheap?

Philip Arny (parny@u.washington.edu)
Health Sciences Library and Information Center
University of Washington SB-55
Seattle, WA 98195

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1992 22:15:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: PALM_ERD@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU (Wolf Gang)
Subject: RE: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #47
Message-ID: <920614221534.20200623@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU>

Re: Orphaned Kaypro's

I bought a used '83 Kaypro II with a busted B: drive, which I replaced promptly
with an Identical drive a friend was liquidating for $10 a piece.  So my
cost of the KAypro II with new drive was $35 and a bunch of discs.  It
has a 7 mhz processor accellerator that can keep up with 2400 as well as
9600 baud transmissions.


------------------------------

Date: 13 Jun 92 16:39:46 GMT
From: psgrain!onion!pail!bucket!samw@uunet.uu.net  (Sam Warden)
Subject: Re: Kaypro Liquidation
Message-ID: <samw.708453586@bucket>

Re: interrupt-driven Kaypros.
 
Kermit on my K10 does 19k through the tty port (serial printer port)
without any machine-dependent configuration.  I had assumed it must
be polling.  Impossible?  Pretty impressive, anyway.
-- 
 
samw@bucket.rain.com (Sam Warden) -- and not a mere Device.
 

------------------------------

Date: 14 Jun 92 02:23:23 GMT
From: zlraa@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Ross Alford)
Subject: Re: Kaypro Liquidation
Message-ID: <1992Jun14.022323.8896@marlin.jcu.edu.au>

Very sad to hear of this.  My Kaypro 4-83 occupies a place of honour under my
desk.  It has the nicest keyboard I've ever used on a computer (though that is
a very personal preference).  It was also great fun to use, and while Micro
Cornucopia magazine was in its Kaypro phase, was extremely well supported for
both hardware and software hacking.  In those days (I assume a long white
beard) it was still possible to fiddle with the machine at hardware and BIOS
level, modify the O/S, etc, without devoting *all* your spare time to
computing.

Now, I can't even persuade undergraduate students to borrow it to use for word
processing.  

-- 
Ross A. Alford
Department of Zoology                      Internet: zlraa@marlin.jcu.edu.au
James Cook University                      Phone:    +61 77 81 4732
Townsville, Qld 4811 Australia

------------------------------

Date: 5 Jun 92 16:45:46 GMT
From: brianm@ecst.csuchico.edu (Brian Meyerpeter)
Subject: Wanted: Vector Boot CP/M disk and other software....
Message-ID: <1992Jun05.164546.12675@ecst.csuchico.edu>

I am trying to help an older gentleman track down a Vector OS.  He 
volunteers at a used office supply store and has come across the
Vector machine.  The only problem is that he doesn't have software.


Can anyone help in this matter?

Thx
Brian Meyerpeter
(916) 899-2100

------------------------------

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 92 07:45:13 MDT
From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL
Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL
Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #50
To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL
Message-ID: <920616074515.V92N50@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL>

INFO-CPM Digest             Tue, 16 Jun 92       Volume 92 : Issue   50

Today's Topics:
                aaaagh!!  my forlib.rel is trashed!!!
                     Archives other than Simtel?
               Difference between Kaypro II & Kaypro 2
                               h89 help
                 Problems with vde266.lbr on simtel20
                              Re:  bds-c
              Re: help needed reading EXXON system disks
                        Re: Kaypro Liquidation
     WANTED: info on Cromemco TU-ART S-100 serial/parallel board
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 8 Jun 92 06:18:44 GMT
From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!galway!dwatola@lll-winken.llnl.gov  (David A. Watola)
Subject: aaaagh!!  my forlib.rel is trashed!!!
Message-ID: <1992Jun8.061844.15324@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>

somehow, my forlib.rel (microsoft f80) has been trashed and i cannot link to
it any longer.  my originals are 1000 miles away at the bottom of an ammo 
box...

could some kind soul email a uuencoded forlib.rel to me?  i'd really really
appreciate it.

thanks,

dave watola
dwatola@bvd.jpl.nasa.gov
dwatola@nextasy2.eecs.wsu.edu

------------------------------

Date: 6 Jun 92 07:29:41 GMT
From: ralphey@lionet.Wesley.OZ.AU (Russell Alphey)
Subject: Archives other than Simtel?
Keywords: cpm archives
Message-ID: <354@lionet.Wesley.OZ.AU>

I was wondering if any CP/M archives existed other than Simtel.  I've never
seen mention of any.

------------------------------

Date: 15 Jun 92 23:47:34 GMT
From: wupost!cs.utexas.edu!csc.ti.com!tilde.csc.ti.com!skitzo.dseg.ti.com!dittman@gumby.wisc.edu  (Eric Dittman)
Subject: Difference between Kaypro II & Kaypro 2
Message-ID: <1992Jun15.184735.538@skitzo.dseg.ti.com>

What's the difference between a Kaypro II and a Kaypro 2?  The two
I've seen recently look the same except for the "II" vs. the "2".
-- 
Eric Dittman                  Texas Instruments - Component Test Facility
dittman@skitzo.dseg.ti.com    (214) 578-3575
Disclaimer:  Not even my opinions.  I found them by the side of the road.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1992 09:03:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: Aaron Wohl <aw0g+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: h89 help
Message-ID: <geDSOky00WA1I1R1Mw@andrew.cmu.edu>

I recently got a h89 for my 10 year old nephew.  Can anyone supply:
hdos manual
h89 schematics/manual
floppies with software
Source for the hard sectored floppies

I used to a lot of cp/m assembly and c programming on an altair 8800 we
are ok the cpm manual/help.  Any info would be really appricated, I will
pay postage and xeroxing etc.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 15 Jun 92 15:27:08 BST
From: jj@scs.leeds.ac.uk
Subject: Problems with vde266.lbr on simtel20
Message-ID: <14983.9206151427@csunb6.scs.leeds.ac.uk>

I fetched the program vde266.lbr from simtel20 recently and
find that nulu complains about a library crc error. I fetched it
again to make sure I got in binary mode etc, and I got the copy
from wuarchive.wustl.edu - all gave the same error. Does anybody
know if it is corrupt and if so where I can get a good copy?

cheers
Jim Jackson

------------------------------

Date: 7 Jun 92 14:35:46 GMT
From: ijpc!ianj@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Ian Justman)
Subject: Re:  bds-c
Message-ID: <06Jun92124050wlm200@ijpc.UUCP>

KA>hi,
KA>        i found bds-c for a z80 at simtel.  it is in   PD2:<CPM.BDSC-1>
KA>through PD2:<CPM.BDSC-4>

But you only give subdirectories off PD2:.  How about some
filenames?!!??!

---
 * SLMR 2.1a * Ian Justman (ianj@ijpc.UUCP)
                     

------------------------------

Date: 7 Jun 92 01:18:40 GMT
From: ewen@naos.actrix.gen.nz (Ewen McNeill)
Subject: Re: help needed reading EXXON system disks
Keywords: exxon, disks
Message-ID: <TDX1LB1w164w@naos.actrix.gen.nz>

rh@rtgx.hanse.de (Ruediger Hoppe) writes:

> suspected some CP/M format. So I organized an CP/M reading software from
> SYDEX, but no luck with all the 190+ different formats.
>
Speaking of disk reading software from Sydex (ie, 22DISK), does anyone
know the latest registration cost?  The shareware version I have here is
dated in 1988, and lists US$15 as the registration cost.

Any other details about Sydex (ie, address/phone if changed, etc) would
be appreciated too.

Email replies please - I'll provide a summary in two weeks time. Thanks
in advance.

> Ruediger Hoppe        | Putting fear beside him, he trusts in beauty blind

--
Ewen McNeill, ewen@naos.actrix.gen.nz (or ewen@actrix.gen.nz)

------------------------------

Date: 15 Jun 92 17:01:46 GMT
From: wieland@ea.ecn.purdue.edu (Jeffrey J Wieland)
Subject: Re: Kaypro Liquidation
Message-ID: <1992Jun15.170146.2985@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>

In article <samw.708453586@bucket> samw@bucket.rain.com (Sam Warden) writes:
>Re: interrupt-driven Kaypros.
> 
>Kermit on my K10 does 19k through the tty port (serial printer port)
>without any machine-dependent configuration.  I had assumed it must
>be polling.  Impossible?  Pretty impressive, anyway.
>-- 
> 
>samw@bucket.rain.com (Sam Warden) -- and not a mere Device.

This is true -- CP/M Kaypros have no difficulty performing file
transfers at high baud rates by merely polling the serial port.
The problem comes with terminal emulation.  The '84 series Kaypros
are notoriously slow for things like clearing the screen, scrolling,
etc.  At 2400 bps, they will drop something like 30 or 40 characters 
after a clear screen command is issued!  

The '83 series machines are much faster at this stuff.  They use 
memory-mapped video -- the video RAM is bank switched in whenever 
the ROM is switched in.  I believe that the VRAM is located at 0x2000 
when it is switched in.

The '84 series (and all of the Kaypro 10s, I believe) use a 6845 or
6545 video controller chip, and the video RAM is only accessable
through that chip.  Its a lot slower, but you get all of those nice
video attributes, plus the 160 X 100 block graphics.  The only way
I know of for a '84 series machine to be a usable terminal is with
interrupts.  Heck, with Kermit-80 they'll drop 1 or 2 characters after
a screen clear at only 300 baud (using polled IO, of course)!  File
transfers are just fine, though.

--
			    Jeffrey J. Wieland
		      Communication Systems Programmer
		        Agricultural Computer Network

    INTERNET: wieland@acn.purdue.edu		ENTM 216
    BITNET:   WIELAND@PURCCVM			Purdue University
    UUCP:     ...!ecn-ee!wieland		West Lafayette, IN 47907
    FAX:      (317)494-8342			(317)494-8333

------------------------------

Date: 6 Jun 92 19:59:13 GMT
From: steve@Aardvark.Rain.COM (Steve Willoughby)
Subject: WANTED: info on Cromemco TU-ART S-100 serial/parallel board
Summary: Need switch settings, pinouts, other docs
Message-ID: <642@aardvark.Rain.COM>

I recently acquired a Cromemco TU-ART (TM) dual serial/dual parallel
S-100 board, without any documentation whatsoever.  I'd like to 
use it in the Altair system I'm trying to resurrect, but need some
more information from anyone who might have or know about one of these.

It's got 2 parallel and 2 serial ports, controlled by a pair of
TI TMS 5501 chips, and there's a block of DIP switches labelled:

                        0R45674567
                        ||||||||||
                        2N<--><-->
                           A   B

So, any info on how to program the 5501's, which I/O port numbers the 
board uses, etc., would be very helpful.

Thanks,
-- 
Steve Willoughby N7PFJ  | "Bart, don't use the Touch of Death on your sister!"
steve@Aardvark.Rain.Com |                             --Marge Simpson
                        |---------------------------------------------------

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Date: Wed, 17 Jun 92 03:15:11 MDT
From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL
Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL
Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #51
To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL
Message-ID: <920617031512.V92N51@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL>

INFO-CPM Digest             Wed, 17 Jun 92       Volume 92 : Issue   51

Today's Topics:
                            re. vde266.lbr
                              Re:  bds-c
                      Televideo 816/RWP for sale
                    Virus on CP/M (does it exist?)
                      Where's tetris for CP/M ?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Tue, 16 Jun 92 16:48:18 BST
From: jj@scs.leeds.ac.uk
Subject: re. vde266.lbr
Message-ID: <21182.9206161548@csunb6.scs.leeds.ac.uk>

Ooooooops - Mea culpa I screwed up. Sorry for wasting peoples time
and net bandwidth.

Jim Jackson

------------------------------

Date: 8 Jun 92 17:05:07 GMT
From: baron!baron!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil  (Don Maslin)
Subject: Re:  bds-c
Message-ID: <1992Jun8.170507.2472@baron.uucp>

Here they are:

Directory PD2:<CPM.BDSC-1>
 Filename   Type Length   Date    Description
==============================================
BDS-C.POLICY  A     459  831103  Update policy for BDS-C
BDS46.LQB     B    3840  850209  No description available
BDSCIO.H      A    5235  830909  No description available
BDSCIO50.H    A    3206  830909  No description available
BDSNEW.CQM    B    9472  850209  No description available
BDSNEW.MSG    A    1109  831128  No description available
C.CCC         B    1152  850209  No description available
CASM.CQ       B   13568  850209  No description available
CASM.DQC      B    4864  850209  No description available
CASM.SUB      A     193  830909  No description available
CCC.AQM       B   15872  850209  No description available
DEFF.CRL      B    8704  850209  No description available
DEFF2.CQM     B   14080  850209  No description available
DEFF2.CRL     B    5888  850209  No description available
DEFF2A.CQM    B    7296  850209  No description available
DIO.CQ        B    5888  850209  No description available
DIO.H         A     791  830909  No description available
FLOAT.CQ      B    4864  850209  No description available
FLOAT.DQC     B    4224  850209  No description available
FLTSUM.CQ     B     896  850209  No description available
FP.CQM        B    7168  850209  No description available
HWARE50.H     A    2110  830909  No description available
NOBOOT.CQ     B    1920  850209  No description available
NOCLR.CQ      B    1792  850209  No description available
SIEVE.CQ      B    1024  850209  No description available
STDLIB1.CQ    B    6272  850209  No description available
STDLIB2.CQ    B   11392  850209  No description available
WILDEX16.CQ   B    4096  850209  No description available
WILDEX20.CQ   B    5248  850214  No description available
WILDEXP.CQ    B    3584  850209  No description available

Directory PD2:<CPM.BDSC-2>
 Filename   Type Length   Date    Description
==============================================
CHARIO.CQ     B    2816  850209  No description available
CRYPT.COM     B    7424  850209  No description available
CRYPT.CQ      B    1664  850209  No description available
L2.CQ         B   14080  850209  No description available
L2.DQC        B    8832  850209  No description available
L2-225.ARK    B   66141  880618  Improved L2 linker for BDS-C compile
L2LINK.FIX    A    1385  830909  No description available
LOAD.CQ       B    1536  850209  No description available
LPR.CQ        B    2048  850209  No description available
LPRINT.CQ     B     896  850209  No description available
MAKOVL.CQ     B   12928  850209  No description available
NL2.CQ        B   16256  850209  No description available
PH.CQ         B    4224  850209  No description available
PORTIO.CQ     B    2432  850209  No description available
PORTIO.H      A     378  830909  No description available
SCOTT.CQ      B    2688  850209  No description available
TELED12.CQ    B   12928  850209  No description available
TELED12.DQC   B    4224  850209  No description available
UNIQ.CQ       B    3200  850209  No description available
UNTIP.CQ      B    1664  850209  No description available
WAVY.CQ       B    1792  850209  No description available
XC.CQ         B   13696  850209  No description available

Directory PD2:<CPM.BDSC-3>
 Filename   Type Length   Date    Description
==============================================
ALPH.CQ       B    1536  850209  No description available
APPEND1.CQ    B    1536  850209  No description available
CAT.CQ        B     896  850209  No description available
CDIR.CQ       B    5248  850209  No description available
CIO.CQ        B    2432  850209  No description available
CP.CQ         B    2816  850209  No description available
ECHO.CQ       B    1280  850209  No description available
FP.CQ         B    3840  850209  No description available
FS.CQ         B    1408  850209  No description available
LCHECK.CQ     B    2688  850209  No description available
LONG1.CQ      B    2048  850209  No description available
LONG1.CQM     B    5504  850209  No description available
LONG1.CRL     B    2560  850209  No description available
LONG1.DQC     B    3200  850209  No description available
PAT.CQ        B    7424  850209  No description available
PAT.H         A    1629  830909  No description available
QSORT.TIP     A    1279  830909  No description available
RM.CQ         B     640  850209  No description available
RMF.CQ        B    1024  850209  No description available
RMX.CQ        B     896  850209  No description available
SAMPLE.CQM    B     768  850209  No description available
SD.CQ         B     640  850209  No description available
SORT3.CQ      B    7040  850209  No description available
STDLIB.DQC    B   10752  850209  No description available
STRIPC.CQ     B    1536  850209  No description available
SYMP.CQ       B    2432  850209  No description available
USERCODE.CQ   B    2176  850209  No description available
V143.DQC      B    5888  850209  No description available
V144.DQC      B    4096  850209  No description available
V145.DQC      B   13568  850209  No description available
V146.DQC      B    7552  850209  No description available
V150-2.DQC    B    8576  850209  No description available
WC.CQ         B    1664  850209  No description available

Directory PD2:<CPM.BDSC-4>
 Filename   Type Length   Date    Description
==============================================
ACRL.LBR      B   36992  880107  Assembler for use with BDS-C
APPEND.CQ     B    1536  850209  No description available
BDSLIB.ARK    B   16989  880103  Standard C Library for BDS-C 1.5
CONFIG12.COM  B   18816  850209  No description available
CONFIG12.CQ   B   16128  850209  No description available
CURLY.ARK     B    4552  870818  Check for unmatched curly braces
DEVICE.CQ     B    6272  850209  No description available
DI.CQ         B    2176  850209  No description available
NRO.CQ        B   32256  850209  No description available
TAIL.CQ       B    1792  850209  No description available
TINIT.CQ      B    5504  850209  No description available
UCSDTRAN.CQ   B    9856  850209  No description available

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Date: 13 Jun 92 18:45:44 GMT
From: psinntp!blkbox!mknewman@uunet.uu.net  (Marc Kraker Newman)
Subject: Televideo 816/RWP for sale
Message-ID: <1992Jun13.184544.6373@blkbox>

True multiuser NZCOM system for sale:

Televideo 816 host, 32 megs disk (FULL OF GOODIES), tape, 16 RS422/3 RS232/1 LP
        128 k memory, Network OS (including full source), lots of CPM software
	including Infocom games, Turbo Modula-2, NZCOM (modified to be full
	multi-user) and many languages, assemblers, MEX+, etc, etc.
Televideo 802, 2 5 1/4" floppies, RS422 and RS232, perfect workstation for
	the 816.
Televideo RWP, *4* Z80s, 128k each, each with 2 RS232's, expandable to 3, and
	a RS422 port for the 816.  GREAT FOR A BBS! (PICS uses it!)

Tons of DOCs, including full Network OS manuals, maintenance manuals, extra
tapes, and even an extra 32 meg hard drive.  THE WD1002 ON THIS SYSTEM HAS
BEEN MODIFIED TO HANDLE UP TO 4 DRIVES! Tons of goodies go with this package!

First $500 gets it all.  Shipping in the 48 contiguous US states is included!

Marc
713-480-2684


-- 
Marc K. Newman (N5SLG)			Is UNIX pronounced 
mknewman@blkbox.com or			"UNIQUES" or
blkbox!mknewman				"EUNICHS"?

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Date: 16 Jun 92 23:58:54 GMT
From: henryb@aix00.csd.unsw.OZ.AU (Dr Henry Brancik)
Subject: Virus on CP/M (does it exist?)
Keywords: computer virus, CP/M
Message-ID: <1992Jun16.235854.6312@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU>

Does somebody know (or did anybody come across) a computer virus on
CP/M machines (I mean CP/M-2.* and CP/M-3.*)?  I do not think that
it is possible to have such a "program" that will go into the system
and not being noticed during the transfer of files and then run on its
own (without the user actually typing the program name or including it
in the .SUB files).  My claim is that such a program never existed
on those machines.  Can anyone support me on that?

                                      - Henry Brancik,

E-mail: henryb@aix00.csd.unsw.oz.au

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Date: 8 Jun 92 13:13:48 GMT
From: mcsun!news.funet.fi!cc.tut.fi!kent@uunet.uu.net  (Kentt{l{ Marko)
Subject: Where's tetris for CP/M ?
Message-ID: <1992Jun8.131348.28644@cc.tut.fi>

I know there's PD tetris for CP/M but where to look for it ???

Thanks guys, Make

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INFO-CPM Digest             Thu, 18 Jun 92       Volume 92 : Issue   52

Today's Topics:
                  Apple II CP/M (Microsoft Softcard)
                    Files needed for BIOS assembly
                      New CP/M 2.2 $15 available
                Re: Apple II CP/M (Microsoft Softcard)
                   Re: Archives other than Simtel?
                              Re:  bds-c
                  Re: Virus on CP/M (does it exist?)
                 Wanted: Clock card for N* Advantage
                What is the current version of XBIOS?
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Date: 8 Jun 92 16:58:22 GMT
From: jwt!bbs-aphelps@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: Apple II CP/M (Microsoft Softcard)
Message-ID: <ZN82LB1w164w@jwt.UUCP>

I got bought the card above. Works fine except the 16 sector disk has 4 
bad tracks (render most of the utilities nonfunctional).

Does anyone has this software to

A) possible copy
B) Or buy.

thanks.

Austin C. Phelps                bbs-aphelps@jwt.UUCP

"Let History Never Forget the Name Enterprise" Yesterday Enterprise

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Date: 8 Jun 92 23:16:28 GMT
From: bwildasi@tope.cs.indiana.edu (Ben Wildasin)
Subject: Files needed for BIOS assembly
Message-ID: <1992Jun8.231644.4552@news.cs.indiana.edu>

I am in the process of building BIOS 4 from the package on SIMTEL.
All of the required files except "addbios.com" and "gencpm.com" are
on my Additional Utilties disk. After several rounds of returning
faulty disks to CBM, I managed to get a working Additional Utilities
disk, but the source disk was hosed.

So, if these two files are to be found on the source disk, I ask any
charitable soul who believes that I paid my $19.95 and am not trying to
bring CBM to bankruptcy by selling bootleg copies of "addbios.com" and
"gencpm.com" and who had better luck with their Additional Utilties
package to pass these files on to me, preferably uuencoded.

If these files are somewhere other than on the BIOS source disk, does
anyone know where? Also, I have heard about BIOS 5 but it doens't appear
on any FTP sites. Where can it be found?

Thanks for any help.
Ben Wildasin

------------------------------

Date: 17 Jun 92 12:19:11 GMT
From: linkr@vtpcn.phys.vt.edu (Roger A. Link)
Subject: New CP/M 2.2 $15 available
Message-ID: <linkr.2.708783551@vtpcn.phys.vt.edu>

I just got my Summer 1992 California Digital Inc catalog. They have new 
copies of Digital Research CP/M 2.2 for $15. Claims to have complete 
manuals, and copies are licensed. They have 3000 of these. "Make offer on 
quantities of 100 plus". No mention of disk size or format.

California Digital 800-421-5041

+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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Date: 10 Jun 92 15:36:20 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!spool.mu.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!usc!sdd.hp.com!swrinde!emory!athena.cs.uga.edu!fuller@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (James P. H. Fuller)
Subject: Re: Apple II CP/M (Microsoft Softcard)
Message-ID: <1992Jun10.153620.29525@athena.cs.uga.edu>

> I got bought the card above. Works fine except the 16 sector disk
> has 4 bad tracks (render most of the utilities nonfunctional).
>
> Does anyone has this software to
>
> A) possible copy
> B) Or buy.

     I have the 16-sector Microsoft disk but it won't boot on my
present Z80 card, which is for CP/M 3.0.  However, all this stuff is
on disks that are physically Apple-format so very probably the CP/M
3.0 diskcopy program would work to clone a CP/M 2.2 disk (it clones
Apple ProDos disks just fine, doesn't seem to care what the bits
*do* as long as they're in the right place....)  Send me mail if you
want to pursue this.  I'll happily run you off a copy for free but
would like to be reimbursed for the cost of disk, mailer and postage.

                                            -- jf

|James P. H. Fuller, research coordinator       Soil/Water Biology Lab |
|                                               Institute of Ecology   |
|work: fuller@athena.cs.uga.edu                 University of Georgia  |
|home: (crom2 rejoins the bitstream one day)    Athens, GA 30606       |

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Date: 9 Jun 92 06:57:03 GMT
From: loesch@bl.physik.tu-muenchen.de (Andreas Loesch)
Subject: Re: Archives other than Simtel?
Keywords: cpm archives
Message-ID: <loesch.708073023@hera>

ralphey@lionet.Wesley.OZ.AU (Russell Alphey) writes:

>I was wondering if any CP/M archives existed other than Simtel.  I've never
>seen mention of any.

Since I am new in this group I have even never heard of Simtel. What's
the complete address?

Thanx,
Andi
--
  Andreas Loesch	Phone   : (+49 89)3209 4086
  Univ. Muenchen	FAX     : (+49 89)3209 4059
  Am Coulombwall 1	E-mail  : loesch@hera.deb.physik.uni-muenchen.de
W-8046 Garching

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Date: 9 Jun 92 19:17:21 GMT
From: mcsun!sun4nl!gufalet.let.rug.nl!rug4!laverman@uunet.uu.net  (Bert Laverman)
Subject: Re:  bds-c
Message-ID: <1992Jun9.191721.13864@cs.rug.nl>

That was a nice listing, but as the file names suggest, it is
NOT BDS-C. Rather, it is a collection of useful programs and
routines for use with BDS-C. BDS-C itself is NOT PD.

Greetings, Bert
-- 
#include <std/disclaimer>

  Bert Laverman,  Dept. of Computing Science, Groningen University
  Friendly mail to: laverman@cs.rug.nl      The rest to: /dev/null

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Date: 18 Jun 92 09:34:09 GMT
From: comp.vuw.ac.nz!actrix!naos!ewen@uunet.uu.net  (Ewen McNeill)
Subject: Re: Virus on CP/M (does it exist?)
Message-ID: <mNXLmB1w164w@naos.actrix.gen.nz>

henryb@aix00.csd.unsw.OZ.AU (Dr Henry Brancik) writes:

> Does somebody know (or did anybody come across) a computer virus on
> CP/M machines (I mean CP/M-2.* and CP/M-3.*)?  I do not think that
> it is possible [...]

It's definitely possible - the fact that most CP/M machines boot from
disk makes it possible. However, it is unlikely to be able to do
much/survive across many machines simply because of the inherient
differences between the various machines that ran CP/M.

> in the .SUB files).  My claim is that such a program never existed
> on those machines.  Can anyone support me on that?
>
I've heard rumours that there was a CP/M virus, down to some details of
what it was supposed to do.  I'm sceptical because when I heard it was
really too late for anyone to bother with CP/M for writing a virus
because it wasn't mainstream any longer.

>                                       - Henry Brancik,

--
Ewen McNeill, ewen@naos.actrix.gen.nz (or ewen@actrix.gen.nz)

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Date: 10 Jun 92 03:55:12 GMT
From: munnari.oz.au!mel.dit.csiro.au!yarra!cm@uunet.uu.net  (Charles Meo)
Subject: Wanted: Clock card for N* Advantage
Message-ID: <79089@yarra.pyramid.com.au>

Does anyone know where I might pick up such a beastie--or if they even exist?

Chuck
-- 
email: cm@yarra.pyramid.com.au
'The Dark Light is inherently neither good nor evil'

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Date: 17 Jun 92 16:23:31 GMT
From: scott@solids.phy.bnl.gov (david scott coburn)
Subject: What is the current version of XBIOS?
Message-ID: <1992Jun17.162331.27602@bnlux1.bnl.gov>

Can someone tell me what the current revision of XBIOS is?
When my SB180 boots, it says my version is 1.01 [2]1.21B.

Have there been any improvements to XBIOS in the last few
years?

Thanks,

Scott


scott coburn                                brookhaven national laboratory
scott@solids.phy.bnl.gov [130.199.128.73]                   upton, ny, usa
  Two men say they're Jesus.  One of them must be wrong. - Dire Straights

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 92 15:45:11 MDT
From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL
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Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #53
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INFO-CPM Digest             Fri, 19 Jun 92       Volume 92 : Issue   53

Today's Topics:
                    Apple II 16 sector CP/M Master
             Calling All Apple CP/Mers (and test message)
                    Re: New CP/M 2.2 $15 available
   Re: WANTED: info on Cromemco TU-ART S-100 serial/parallel board
          Registration coast of 22DISK (and address change)
                           Tetris for CP/M
             WANTED:  low-level hard disk format program
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Jun 92 10:00:21 -0500
From: curts@tmpcu.mdc.com (Curt Schroeder)
Subject: Apple II 16 sector CP/M Master
Message-ID: <9206191500.AA04923@tmpcu.mdc.com>

Glad to see other Apple CP/M enthusiasts!  I would be willing to Shrinkit and
Binscii the CP/M Master disk and upload it for mailing.  I would also include
a neat shareware program that can move text and binary files between DOS 3.3,
Apple Pascal, CP/M, and Prodos 8, inclusive!  If you dont't have Shrinkit and
Binscii, shame on you!  But if not, let me know and I will include them as well,
as they are Freeware.

Shade and sweet water,

Curt

Curt Schroeder | McDonnell Douglas Missile Systems Company      |
----------------------------------------------------------------|
These opinions are mine, mine, mine!  I  | curts@tmpcu.mdc.com  |
am not an instantiation of Std_Employee! | - Apple II Forever - |


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Date: 19 Jun 92 21:05:22 GMT
From: taronga.com!jdbaker@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (John Donald Baker)
Subject: Calling All Apple CP/Mers (and test message)
Message-ID: <9206191605.AA26603@taronga.taronga.com>

I'd like to hear from all people who get their CP/M thrills via an Apple
][ (or ///) series computer.

I'm interested in establishing a dialogue with any such people so that I can
share information about tricks, tips, techniques, etc.

I've been using CP/M via the Apple ][-series for a number of years.  First with
a Franklin ACE 1000 with PCPI Applicard.  Then moved over to a //e, taking the
AppliCard with me.  I currently run a full-blown Z-System via the Seven League
Systems' CardZ180.  I experimented with a MS-Softcard clone for the purpose of
software development (overlays for QTERM v4.3e and ZMP v1.5)

Thanks for listening (reading) and I hope to hear from all you Apple CP/Mers!

John D. Baker ->An Apple 5.25", 3.5", 8", HD5.25" CardZ180 Z-System nut //
Internet:  jdb8042@blkbox.com            jdbaker@taronga.com
Karnage:  "I am certainly very happy for you, but--WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?"
          _TaleSpin_:  "The Ransom of Red Chimp"

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1992 10:40:35 PDT
From: Sprague.Wbst311@xerox.com
Subject: Re: New CP/M 2.2 $15 available
Message-ID: <"18-Jun-92 13:40:35 EDT".*.Michael_D._Sprague.wbst311@Xerox.com>

> I just got my Summer 1992 California Digital Inc catalog. They have new
> copies of Digital Research CP/M 2.2 for $15. Claims to have complete
> manuals, and copies are licensed. They have 3000 of these. "Make offer on
> quantities of 100 plus". No mention of disk size or format.

If this is what I think it is (California Digital has offered CP/M in the
past), then it is for an old Xerox laptop computer (I don't remember the
number, but it had a 3 line LCD display) which used 5.25" disks.  The 8.5"x5.5"
CP/M manuals were from Digital Research, and came in a nice little binder,
which fit in a case (much like IBM's old PC-DOS manuals).  A good deal if you
needed CP/M documentation.

22DISK and UNIFORM do not have the format for the disks though, and I have no
clue as to what the format is.

				~ Mike  (Sprague.Wbst311@Xerox.Com)

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 18 Jun 92 21:15:57 CDT
From: hanscom@eid.anl.gov (roger hanscom)
Subject: Re: WANTED: info on Cromemco TU-ART S-100 serial/parallel board
Message-ID: <9206190215.AA07581@athens.eid.anl.gov>

Steve Willoughby asks about Cromemco TU-ART board.  I sent the following
reply via e-mail, but perhaps it is of general interest?


Steve -
I've got lots of TUART's, what do you need to know?  The dip switch
is (top is your label "2--0", "ON" is to the right) interrupt mode,
address reversal, and then the base address for device A (A4 thru
A7) and same for device B.  On the interrupt mode, 2 is for IM2 type
interrupts (Z-80), and 0 is for IM0 type interrupts (8080).  The base
address, combined with the following table, addresses the TMS 5501
functions/registers.

A3-A0                   Input                Output
======                  ========             =======
0                     status register        baud rate register
1                     rcv data register      tr data register
2                          ----                command register
3                     interrupt addr reg     intr. mask register
4                     dev. parallel port      dev. parallel port
5                             -----             timer 1
6                          ------             timer 2
7                          ------              timer 3
8                          ------             timer 4
9                          --------           timer 5

The address reversal bit (one can switch device addresses on the fly)
puts device addresses under software control when it's on, and under 
hardware control when it's off via pin 1 of J2 and J3.  Then grounding
this pin will reverse addresses.  Don't ground pin 1 of J2 or J3 when
the TUART is in software mode (dip sw. #2 ON).

The TMS 5501's ought to act like vanilla devices, if you can find the
specs. on them.  A word of warning:  initialize both 5501's even if
you use only one.  A half-arsed 5501 can generate bogus interrupts that
may/will drive you crazy.

I've got some TUART initialization code around here somewhere that I
might be able to send you ---  I had it at my fingertips not 10 years
ago!! @:^)  (just a little joke there!)

Good luck.

       roger            hanscom@astoria.eid.anl.gov


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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1992 06:38:57 PDT
From: Sprague.Wbst311@xerox.com
Subject: Registration coast of 22DISK (and address change)
Message-ID: <"19-Jun-92  9:38:57 EDT".*.Michael_D._Sprague.wbst311@Xerox.com>

The other day, someone asked what the current price of 22DISK was.  As I
registered a version a month ago, I went through all this.  Sydex has a
different address than that listed in the old shareware ... and the prices have
gone up somewhat.  Here is the scoop of interest from their current list (in
their words, not mine):


AnaDisk -- The complete diskette utility.  Nothing like it anywhere else; scan
edit; repair and copy just about any kind of diskette.  $25.00 registration
fee.

22DISK -- Transfer files, format, examine and erase files on "foreign" CP/M
diskettes on your PC.  Includes tips on supporting 8" and 5.25" single density
disks.  Contains definitions for over 270 different formats.  $25.00
registration fee.

22NICE -- A CP/M 2.2 emulation package.  Supports the NEX V-series chips or
performs emulation by software for both 8080 and Z80 processors.  Includes
terminal emulation and diskette handling for common CP/M systems.  Includes
22DISK.  $40.00 registration fee.

Sydex
P.O. Box 5700
Eugene, OR  97405
(503) 683-6033


I personally have used 22DISK and 22NICE.  I have had some trouble with 22DISK,
as I have reported before.  22NICE seemed to work pretty good for me, though I
had trouble with programs written for the Z80 (for example, the version of
UNCRUNCH that came with NC-COM would not work).  It ran M80 on my old 8MHz 286
much faster than my Xerox 820-II did ... but then, the 286 had a hard drive,
while the 820-II was floppy based.  :-)

				~ Mike  (Sprague.Wbst311@Xerox.Com)

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 18 Jun 92 22:09:24 EDT
From: eudoh@st6000.sct.edu (Etop Udoh)
Subject: Tetris for CP/M
Message-ID: <9206190209.AA11739@st6000.sct.edu>

hi,

  If I remember correctly it should be in the Simtel archives ....

 .................................................................
 :     -------------------      SOUTHERN COLLEGE OF TECHNOLOGY   :
 :     |  EUDOH@SCT.EDU  |             MARIETTA, GEORGIA         :
 :     -------------------                                       :
 :      Abandon all hope ye who have entered  " CYBERSPACE "     :
 :...............................................................:

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Date: 11 Jun 92 21:52:46 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!bronze!newshost.cs.rose-hulman.edu!news@ucbvax.Berkeley.  (Douglas C. Pearson)
Subject: WANTED:  low-level hard disk format program
Message-ID: <1992Jun11.215246.25497@cs.rose-hulman.edu>

The subject line says it all.  I'm trying to get a hard disk formatted for  
a machine that's closest to a S-100, but isn't really anything but a  
computer that runs a spectrometer.  I'm wondering if there are any low-  
level hard disk format programs out there in the PD for CP/M, and if so,  
if anybody can put them on 8" disk...

Any help anyone can give me via e-mail (I don't read this group) would be  
greatly appreciated.

clueless chuck
PearsoDC@NeXTWork.Rose-Hulman.Edu

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Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #54
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INFO-CPM Digest             Mon, 22 Jun 92       Volume 92 : Issue   54

Today's Topics:
                Help with BG ii screen driver (2 msgs)
                      Help with Compupro 816...
           Re: Calling All Apple CP/Mers (and test message)
                    Re: New CP/M 2.2 $15 available
                  Re: Virus on CP/M (does it exist?)
                               Vector-4
               Virus on cp/m, it exists, but no hazard
                        Z-80 emulator... again
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 22 Jun 92 12:13:26 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!usc!sdd.hp.com!swrinde!mips!mips!munnari.oz.au!manuel!manson@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Peter Manson)
Subject: Help with BG ii screen driver
Message-ID: <1992Jun22.121326.9442@newshost.anu.edu.au>

   I have just started looking at writing a BackGrounder ii screen 
driver for the Big Board II, but I do not fully understand what I am
doing.  The release notes that came with the package refer to a file
called BGSCREEN.DOC which has some extra info on writing a driver.
I didn't get this file.  Could someone send me a copy please?
   I collected some screen drivers from SIMTEL, so I could probably
muddle my way to a completed source, although a detailed description
of entry points and functions would be nice.  But how do I turn it
into a .DRV file as BGii requires?  Is it just a renamed .REL file, or 
is there something more?
   Finally, and maybe I should have asked this first up, does anyone
have a Big Board II driver they would be willing to share?
   Any help would be most appreciated.
Thanks, Peter Manson.

------------------------------

Date: 22 Jun 92 12:25:43 GMT
From: munnari.oz.au!manuel!manson@uunet.uu.net  (Peter Manson)
Subject: Help with BG ii screen driver
Message-ID: <1992Jun22.122543.9542@newshost.anu.edu.au>

Sorry for the repost, return mail address on the first post was wrong!


   I have just started looking at writing a BackGrounder ii screen 
driver for the Big Board II, but I do not fully understand what I am
doing.  The release notes that came with the package refer to a file
called BGSCREEN.DOC which has some extra info on writing a driver.
I didn't get this file.  Could someone send me a copy please?
   I collected some screen drivers from SIMTEL, so I could probably
muddle my way to a completed source, although a detailed description
of entry points and functions would be nice.  But how do I turn it
into a .DRV file as BGii requires?  Is it just a renamed .REL file, or 
is there something more?
   Finally, and maybe I should have asked this first up, does anyone
have a Big Board II driver they would be willing to share?
   Any help would be most appreciated.
Thanks, Peter Manson.

------------------------------

Date: 21 Jun 92 05:07:46 GMT
From: think.com!wupost!eclnews!jezebel!c31002tl@uunet.uu.net  (Tony Leong)
Subject: Help with Compupro 816...
Message-ID: <1992Jun21.050746.29457@wuecl.wustl.edu>

	I just recently picked up an old Compupro 816 system.  It's a great
	looking machine.  The only problem is that it didn't come with
	any documentation.  Popping the case revealed the following cards:

		3 RAM22 cards
		4 SP186 cards 
		1 SPIO card
		1 Compupro 286 card
		1 System Support card
		1 Disk 1a card
		1 Disk 3 card

	The computer came with a 5 1/4 and 8 inch drive.  The harddrive
	is a full height 72 mb Control Data disk.  Upon powerup the
	hd light comes on and never goes off.  It doesn't even try to 
	access the floppies.  

	The other problem I have is that I can't
	figure out which port on the back is for the console and at
	what speed.  I've been assuming the rs-232 from the system support
	card was the console.  With all the Intel cpus inside I guess
	it ran a kind of multiuser msdos.  If anyone has manuals 
	or documentation I'd gladly pay for a copy and 
	shipping.  I'd probably need a copy of the boot disks too.
	I looking forward to getting this beastie running and any
	help would be appreciated.

	tony!



                           ___________________________________________________
Tony Leong                |                                                   |
tony@mcf.wustl.edu        | "Save the whales, the manatee and the S-100 bus!" | 
c31002tl@jezebel.wustl.edu|___________________________________________________|

------------------------------

Date: 21 Jun 92 22:42:53 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!tulane!darwin.sura.net!mips!pacbell.com!pacbell!sactoh0!ijpc!ianj@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Ian Justman)
Subject: Re: Calling All Apple CP/Mers (and test message)
Message-ID: <70PqmB3w165w@ijpc.UUCP>

jdbaker@taronga.com (John Donald Baker) writes:

> I'd like to hear from all people who get their CP/M thrills via an Apple
> ][ (or ///) series computer.

Started CP/Ming with an Apple ][ Plus with a SoftCard Z80 card.

> I'm interested in establishing a dialogue with any such people so that I can
> share information about tricks, tips, techniques, etc.

Sure, why not?  I wrote a ZMP driver a long time ago for the
SoftCard (and any compatibles which map $C0xx (6502 addressing
syntax) to 0E000h (Z80 syntax) and do direct memory-mapped I/O.

> Thanks for listening (reading) and I hope to hear from all you Apple CP/Mers!

------------------------------

Date: 21 Jun 92 22:41:09 GMT
From: att!pacbell.com!pacbell!sactoh0!ijpc!ianj@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Ian Justman)
Subject: Re: New CP/M 2.2 $15 available
Message-ID: <a8PqmB2w165w@ijpc.UUCP>

Sprague.Wbst311@XEROX.COM writes:

> 22DISK and UNIFORM do not have the format for the disks though, and I have no
> clue as to what the format is.

Get ANADISK and do a little poking around and you might have a
better idea as to what's going on.

------------------------------

Date: 18 Jun 92 20:08:05 GMT
From: catnip!abeals@lll-winken.llnl.gov  (Andrew Scott Beals)
Subject: Re: Virus on CP/M (does it exist?)
Message-ID: <5556@catnip.berkeley.ca.us>

ewen@naos.actrix.gen.nz (Ewen McNeill) writes:

>I've heard rumours that there was a CP/M virus, down to some details of
>what it was supposed to do.

Yeah, it's called the "BD Software C Compiler".  There are many versions
of it.  Somehow it ends up on everyone's diskettes even though they don't
know where it came from.

-- 
Andrew Scott Beals (415) 905-6590 any time                             KC6SSS
abeals@catnip.berkeley.ca.us           ...!apple!catnip.berkeley.ca.us!abeals

Albert Einstein, when asked to describe radio, replied: "You see, wire
telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat.  You pull his tail in New
York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles.  Do you understand this?
And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they
receive them there.  The only difference is that there is no cat."

------------------------------

Date: 21 Jun 92 19:41:42 GMT
From: csus.edu!netcomsv!mork!sspatter@decwrl.dec.com  (Samuel Scott Patterson)
Subject: Vector-4
Message-ID: <v8nl4ac.sspatter@netcom.com>

Hi!

     Anyone out there know what a Vector-4 is?  There is one in a thrift
store near my house really cheap.  It's a cute little thing with monitor
and disk drives in one thing with a keyboard cabled to it.  I suspect it
is some sort of CP/M machine but I thought I knew all of them and I've 
never heard of a Vector-4 before.  Anyways, this one is like in mint 
condition and I was wondering if it would be worth the time to pick up
and mess with.  :)  I wuv my Osborne and KayPro and PDP! :)  
     Heh.  I was a bit worried about it though because it's sitting 
right next to a Apple-3. };)

						-Scott

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sspatter@netcom.netcom.com
Samuel Scott Patterson  365-J Western Drive, Santa Cruz CA 95060
(408)457-0521
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Date: 19 Jun 92 12:18:15 GMT
From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!mips!darwin.sura.net!uvaarpa!gems.vcu.edu!agnew@ames.arc.nasa.gov
Subject: Virus on cp/m, it exists, but no hazard
Message-ID: <1992Jun19.081815.19@gems.vcu.edu>

I've heard of that cp/m virus too.  Even to reading the Email from the
person who did it, just to see if it was possible.  Unlike others, this
fellow was ethical enough to keep his virus in a "test tube", and not
release it.  Many Thanks, whoever you are!!!!  His rationale for writing
the virus was to gain experience with programming, not to blow others
out of the water...

  Jim.

My Dec VT180 "Robin" is alive and well doing word processing for poor
college students..  Heard they were standing in line to use it..

-- 
         /^^^\   \ /   Jim Agnew         AGNEW@RUBY.VCU.EDU  (Internet)
        /      >  ||   Neurosurgery,     AGNEW@VCUVAX        (Bitnet)
   /\_/     '   \  /   MCV-VCU           This tape will self destruct in
 /________________>    Richmond, Va      five seconds.  Good luck, Jim..."

------------------------------

Date: 20 Jun 92 22:48:24 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!mips!mips!quack!mrapple@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Nick Sayer)
Subject: Z-80 emulator... again
Message-ID: <fOQdchF@quack.sac.ca.us>

Chasened by my recent experience writing a Z-80 interpreter in C
(for those who don't remember, a simple DIR under CP/M took
5 minutes on a Sun 3), I have decided to give it another whack,
but this time the main functionality will be done by an array
of pointers to functions instead of a big case statement.
That ought to make the thing a bit more efficient.

I'm just starting work on it, but thought that now's the time to
line up alpha testers willing to run the thing through its
paces, offer suggestions, code the infamous "DAA" instruction,
etc.

-- 
Nick Sayer <mrapple@quack.sac.ca.us> | "Actors don't like to play comas.
N6QQQ @ N0ARY.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NA       | They feel it limits their range."
37 19 49 N / 121 57 36 W             | 
+1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'   |    -- Soapdish

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 21 Jun 92 17:13:42 PDT
From: lou@netlink.cts.com (Louis Puccio)
Message-ID: <JHuqmB24w164w@netlink.cts.com>

HI! what is your listserv internet email address?
thanks....
louis

--                    
INTERNET:  lou@netlink.cts.com (Louis)
UUCP:   ...!nosc!ryptyde!netlink!lou
NetLink Online Communications * Public Access in San Diego, CA (619) 453-1115

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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 92 19:15:12 MDT
From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL
Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL
Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #55
To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL
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INFO-CPM Digest             Tue, 23 Jun 92       Volume 92 : Issue   55

Today's Topics:
                            CodeWorks' Q/C
 CP/M on Apple//c... a bit painful! + a request for software/info...
         New CP/M 2.2 $15 available AND Apple II CP/M stuff.
                  Re: Apple II 16 sector CP/M Master
                    Re: Help with Compupro 816...
                     Re: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #54
                      VT100 Emulation for H89??
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 22 Jun 92 20:39:32 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!spool.mu.edu!sdd.hp.com!mips!pacbell.com!pacbell!sactoh0!ijpc!ianj@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Ian Justman)
Subject: CodeWorks' Q/C
Message-ID: <L9esmB3w165w@ijpc.UUCP>

How does one obtain CodeWorks' Q/C?  It's the compiler of choice
for the person who wrote UZI, but I would very much like to know
how I could obtain a copy, provided CodeWorks is still in
business and if they still support CP/M.  Author of UZI (sorry,
but I've forgotten your name), could you please tell me how to
get a copy of Q/C?  Many thanks in advance.

------------------------------

Date: 23 Jun 92 15:18:42 GMT
From: iggy.GW.Vitalink.COM!widener!eff!news.byu.edu!news@lll-winken.llnl.gov  (Sean Eckton)
Subject: CP/M on Apple//c... a bit painful! + a request for software/info...
Message-ID: <kg@byu.edu>

I have an Apple//c with a Z80 installed and running that system in CP/M is a  
bit painful.  I remember using TERM programs with a 1200 baud modem and I  
found that I had to either change it to 300 baud or have the BBS send one or  
two nulls at the beginning of each line so my display could catch up.  I  
thought that the old IBM was slow, but that screen display on my //c in CP/M  
is EXTREMELY slow!  It sure is alot slower than it is in DOS 3.3 or ProDOS.   
Does anyone else have that problem?

Another thing that I am looking for is a version of KA9Q that was originally  
written for a Xerox 820 (I think that is the model).  Does anyone have it?  I  
could really use a copy.  Some people have it, but it is on 8" disks and they  
don't have any way to get it on 5.25 or do anything with it.  Can anyone help  
me.

--
Sean Eckton

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Internet:  ecktons@sirius.byu.edu      Brigham Young University, Provo, UT.
Packet Radio:  kd6bik @ wb7esh.#orem.ut.usa.na
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 22 Jun 92 14:21:07 -0500
From: curts@tmpcu.mdc.com (Curt Schroeder)
Subject: New CP/M 2.2 $15 available AND Apple II CP/M stuff.
Message-ID: <9206221921.AA08054@tmpcu.mdc.com>

I just called California Digital this afternoon.  They are willing to sell
individual copies of CP/M 2.2 for $15 + $6 shipping.  You get a disk (XEROX
format), a serail #, and the manuals.  They Rep said if you already have CP/M
and are ordering this just to get the serial # and manuals to just copy your
own working system disk onto the one you receive.

There number is 800-421-5041.  They want to unload these!  He made a comment 
about a price break if you bought a lot of 1000 copies! ;-)

---
I tried to mail a response to John Donald Baker with no success (mail gateway
problems).  I have been using CP/M on an Apple II+ since 1985.  I have a set
of include files for Turbo Pascal 3.0 that provide access to the II's Hi-res
graphics (and paddle controls).  I have a 3D graphics lib too, but it is still
under developement (unfortunately that project has been on hold for a while).

Curt

Curt Schroeder | McDonnell Douglas Missile Systems Company      |
----------------------------------------------------------------|
These opinions are mine, mine, mine!  I  | curts@tmpcu.mdc.com  |
am not an instantiation of Std_Employee! | - Apple II Forever - |


------------------------------

Date: Mon, 22 Jun 92 09:58:02 -0500
From: curts@tmpcu.mdc.com (Curt Schroeder)
Subject: Re: Apple II 16 sector CP/M Master
Message-ID: <9206221458.AA07656@tmpcu.mdc.com>

I tried to mail this, but it bounced.  I hope it is of enough general interest
that it is not a waste of bandwidth to post it here.
----

> Which version of the master? - I've got several of them, but none of them seem

I know the Master I have is 2.2, but off hand I could not tell you if there is
further version info (I think it may be 2.2B, though).

> to be able to recognise much of my RAM... apparently newer versions should.

OK, my understanding is that CP/M 2.2 gives you 56K of usable space.  If there
is an Apple version of CP/M 3.0, that should give 60K of work space (out of 64Kof memory).  To access more requires a different BIOS, I believe.  I know that
some of the Z280 systems have 512K system memory, but I don't know of anything
for the Apple (I still use a II+).  I thought about getting an AE Ramfactor
board several years ago, until I found out that to use it under CP/M, I would
have to purchase their Z80 board as well (which came with CP/M 4.0 or 5.0, or
some such animal).

I don't know if Z-System would be able to take advantage of additional memory
or not.  I just recently started looking into the product.

Curt

Curt Schroeder | McDonnell Douglas Missile Systems Company      |
----------------------------------------------------------------|
These opinions are mine, mine, mine!  I  | curts@tmpcu.mdc.com  |
am not an instantiation of Std_Employee! | - Apple II Forever - |


------------------------------

Date: 22 Jun 92 20:09:21 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!spool.mu.edu!sdd.hp.com!mips!pacbell.com!pacbell!sactoh0!ijpc!ianj@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Ian Justman)
Subject: Re: Help with Compupro 816...
Message-ID: <auDsmB2w165w@ijpc.UUCP>

c31002tl@jezebel.wustl.edu (Tony Leong) writes:

> 
> 	I just recently picked up an old Compupro 816 system.  It's a great
> 	looking machine.  The only problem is that it didn't come with
> 	any documentation.  Popping the case revealed the following cards:
> 
> 		3 RAM22 cards
> 		4 SP186 cards 
> 		1 SPIO card
> 		1 Compupro 286 card
> 		1 System Support card
> 		1 Disk 1a card
> 		1 Disk 3 card

Sounds like my system, only minus 3 SP186 cards and a SPUZ thrown
in for good measure, plus 3 M-DRIVE/Hes with 512K apiece, an
Interfacer 3, and an Interfacer 4.

> 	The computer came with a 5 1/4 and 8 inch drive.  The harddrive
> 	is a full height 72 mb Control Data disk.  Upon powerup the
>       hd light comes on and never goes off.

Don't worry about that.  It ALWAYS does that.

>       It doesn't even try to
>       access the floppies.

Try putting something in either drive and punching the Reset
button.  If there's nothing in the boot drive, whatever it may
be, it goes IMMEDIATELY into the hard disk bootstrap mode.

> 	The other problem I have is that I can't
> 	figure out which port on the back is for the console and at
> 	what speed.  I've been assuming the rs-232 from the system support
>       card was the console.

Your assumption is quite correct.  You do need DTR for the system
to boot.

>       With all the Intel cpus inside I guess
>       it ran a kind of multiuser msdos.

The operating system is called Concurrent DOS.  I have two
different versions here at home.

>       If anyone has manuals
> 	or documentation I'd gladly pay for a copy and 
>       shipping.

I wouldn't mind having docs myself...  :-)

>       I'd probably need a copy of the boot disks too.

I can help in this department.

> 	I looking forward to getting this beastie running and any
> 	help would be appreciated.

I'll certainly try my best, though my unit is in storage, and the
72megger is on my DOS machine because the one I had been using on
it died.  But if you want to shoot the breeze about it, gimme a
call at (916) 344-5360.

Just for good measure, mwilson@crash.cts.com, are you there?

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 22 Jun 92 22:51:35 PDT
From: donm@pnet01.cts.com (Don Maslin)
Subject: Re: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #54
Message-ID: <m0m056p-0000qLC@crash.cts.com>

>sspatter@netcom.com writes:
>     Anyone out there know what a Vector-4 is?  There is one in a thrift
>store near my house really cheap.  It's a cute little thing with monitor
>and disk drives in one thing with a keyboard cabled to it.  I suspect it
>is some sort of CP/M machine but I thought I knew all of them and I've 
>never heard of a Vector-4 before.  Anyways, this one is like in mint 
>condition and I was wondering if it would be worth the time to pick up
>and mess with.  :)  I wuv my Osborne and KayPro and PDP! :)  

Well, it is probably a product of the long defunct Vector Graphics of Westlake
Village CA.  They built some interesting machinery, although some was
handicapped with hard sector diskettes.  If you don't think that too much of
the Apple rubbed off on it and the price is right, go for it!

                                                 - don
>     Heh.  I was a bit worried about it though because it's sitting 
>right next to a Apple-3. };)
>

UUCP: {hplabs!hp-sdd ucsd nosc}!crash!pnet01!donm
ARPA: crash!pnet01!donm@nosc.mil
INET: donm@pnet01.cts.com

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Date: Mon, 22 Jun 92 23:51 CDT
From: <EB09187%SWTEXAS.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: VT100 Emulation for H89??

Help,
  I am the proud owner of 2 H-89s.  I bought my first one in 1980 and it has
been running fine since with only 1 minor problem.  I have found myself back
in school working on my BS in Computer Science.  It is a real stretch
financially but, I WILL MAKE IT!  I use my old baby as a terminal to communicate
with the VAX at school.  Here is the poblem at hand.
  The vax supports Kermit protocol so i downloaded a copy of the kermit
communications package from Columbia University but it does not support VT100
mode  it has the capability to emulate vt52 but that is all.
  Is there a comm. package that supports vt100 emulation for my terminal?  If
so where can I get a copy of it.  I hope that it is in a form that I can load
thru bitnet as I use the old 5-1/5" 10 sector Hard disk format and the media is
all but impossible to find anymore.

Thanks for any help that anyone can provide.

l8r,

Ed Bixby
(512) 754-8795
EB09187@SWTTEGAN.BITNET


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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 92 22:45:37 MDT
From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL
Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL
Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #56
To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL
Message-ID: <920625224538.V92N56@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL>

INFO-CPM Digest             Thu, 25 Jun 92       Volume 92 : Issue   56

Today's Topics:
                  Re: Apple II 16 sector CP/M Master
                      Re: Turbo Pascal for CP/M
                  Re: Virus on CP/M (does it exist?)
                 Source of new/used PCPI Applicards ?
              Televideo TPC II CP/M Portable PC for sale
                        Turbo Pascal for CP/M
                    TV 803H disk and docs needed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 24 Jun 92 11:06:16 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!icdoc!sot-ecs!nwp90@uunet.uu.net  (Nick Phillips)
Subject: Re: Apple II 16 sector CP/M Master
Message-ID: <12090@ecs.soton.ac.uk>

In <9206221458.AA07656@tmpcu.mdc.com> curts@TMPCU.MDC.COM (Curt Schroeder) writes:

>OK, my understanding is that CP/M 2.2 gives you 56K of usable space.  If there
>is an Apple version of CP/M 3.0, that should give 60K of work space (out of 64Kof memory).  To access more requires a different BIOS, I believe.  I know that
>some of the Z280 systems have 512K system memory, but I don't know of anything
>for the Apple (I still use a II+).  I thought about getting an AE Ramfactor
>board several years ago, until I found out that to use it under CP/M, I would
>have to purchase their Z80 board as well (which came with CP/M 4.0 or 5.0, or
>some such animal).

The only extra memory I can use is a Cirtech PlusRAM board which I can use
as a ramdisk (drive F:). Cirtech supply a program to set it up, but it only
works under 2.23 and above, so far as I can remember. I also now have
(possibly temporarily) the use of an AST SprintDisk - I'll see what I can
do with that, if anything.

Nick
-- 
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nwp90@ecs.soton.ac.uk
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Date: 25 Jun 92 02:44:04 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!sdd.hp.com!hpscdc!hplextra!hpcc05!hpyhde4!hpycla!hpergfg2!hprdash!hprnd!gregh@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Greg Holdren)
Subject: Re: Turbo Pascal for CP/M
Message-ID: <450002@hprnd.rose.hp.com>

In comp.os.cpm, krish@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (P Krishnan) writes:

    Hi,
    	Does anyone know if Borland still sells Turbo Pascal  (ver 3
    at least) for CP/M?  If they don't, is anybody willing to sell it to
    me, provided it is legal?  Please reply by e-mail.

    Thanks
    -- 
    --Krish




			Sage Microsystems East still sells the CP/M version for
			$60. I don't know the address and tele off hand but can
			look it up.



			Greg Holdren
			gregh@hprnd.rose.hp.com

------------------------------

Date: 24 Jun 92 07:02:40 GMT
From: mcsun!Germany.EU.net!nixpbe!uranium!josef@uunet.uu.net  (Josef Moellers)
Subject: Re: Virus on CP/M (does it exist?)
Message-ID: <BqC8wG.H69@nixpbe.sni.de>

In <1992Jun16.235854.6312@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> henryb@aix00.csd.unsw.OZ.AU (Dr Henry Brancik) writes:


>Does somebody know (or did anybody come across) a computer virus on
>CP/M machines (I mean CP/M-2.* and CP/M-3.*)?  I do not think that
>it is possible to have such a "program" that will go into the system
>and not being noticed during the transfer of files and then run on its
>own (without the user actually typing the program name or including it
>in the .SUB files).  My claim is that such a program never existed
>on those machines.  Can anyone support me on that?

Well, I've never seen a virus on my CP/M machine (actually it's an
SB180FX running ZSYSTEM, but that's compatible to CP/M) but I assume
that one could get a virus into such a system.
A virus does not necessarily have to be a complete "program", virusses
(viri/vira?) can also be attached to existing programs. I have the
impression that this is actually the usual way to have a virus.

There is one big difference between MS/DOS and CP/M that make having a
"free" virus in CP/M a little more difficult: the management of free disk
blocks. CP/M rebuilds (part of) it's free block list every time the
current list drains (call this "garbage collection"). That means that a
virus occupying a disk block that does not belong to a file, will sooner
or later be allocated to a growing file. MS/DOS on the other hand, has
it's FAT, which describes ON THE DISK which blocks are free and which
are in use. Therefore a virus can hide in a "non free" but also "non
allocated" block, pretty much like a "bad block". Under CP/M You would
have to group bad blocks into a file.

Of course, You can always attach a virus to an existing file. All CP/M
executables are "COM"-files, i.e. the entire contents of the file are
placed into memory and then execution commences at address 100h (0x100).
You could place a "JMP virus" there which jumps to the added code and
the added code then returns to e.g. 103h. However, think about what You
can (or cannot) do with a mere 56k of free memory (some CP/M systems
have even less).

As I said, I've never tried to write a virus myself, I've never seen one
on CP/M, and thanks to the widespread (commercial) use of MS/DOS, I
am glad no-one actually cares enough about CP/M to actually launch a
viral attack b-{)

> - Henry Brancik,

>E-mail: henryb@aix00.csd.unsw.oz.au
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Date: 25 Jun 92 03:21:31 GMT
From: pa.dec.com!nntpd2.cxo.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!sousa.ltn.dec.com!kxovax.enet.dec.com!secrist@decwrl.dec.com  (Strong datatypes for weak minds.)
Subject: Source of new/used PCPI Applicards ?
Message-ID: <1226@sousa.ltn.dec.com>

	Anybody know where you can purchase new or used PCPI Applicards
	for the Apple // ?  They're nice, and I would like to get a spare
	since my Xeroxes have found a new home.

	Regards,
	rcs

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Date: 22 Jun 92 12:21:47 GMT
From: psinntp!arrl.org@uunet.uu.net  (Bart Jahnke)
Subject: Televideo TPC II CP/M Portable PC for sale
Message-ID: <193@arrl.org>

Televideo TPC II Portable PC For Sale.  It operates under CP/M.

It is self contained with built-in 9" amber monitor, 2 - 342 kb 5-1/4"
floppies and a keyboard (which attaches to cover the monitor and floppies 
during transport.

I have some software including Wordstar and Uniform (muti-format disk 
read/write utility) with the package.  

First $195 takes it -- I'll pay shipping.

please respond to "bjahnke@arrl.org" N

73, 

Bart KB9NM

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Date: 24 Jun 92 02:02:33 GMT
From: vuse.vanderbilt.edu!krish@uunet.uu.net  (P Krishnan)
Subject: Turbo Pascal for CP/M
Message-ID: <1992Jun24.020233.24854@vuse.vanderbilt.edu>

Hi,
	Does anyone know if Borland still sells Turbo Pascal  (ver 3
at least) for CP/M?  If they don't, is anybody willing to sell it to
me, provided it is legal?  Please reply by e-mail.

Thanks
-- 
--Krish

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Date: 26 Jun 92 01:05:46 GMT
From: agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!uwm.edu!ogicse!news.u.washington.edu!milton.u.washington.edu!bperigo@ucbvax.  (Bob Perigo)
Subject: TV 803H disk and docs needed.
Message-ID: <1992Jun26.010546.12962@u.washington.edu>

I just got this TeleVideo 803H without boot floppies or literature.  I run
a bbs on a trs16 that I'd like to move to this better looking machine.

Can you provide cpm 2.2 boot disks with drive tables that will handle the
Quantum 2080 now setup as 8 8MB drives?  I'd also need the pinouts of that
SASI like db15 connector on back by the serial, printer and mouse ports.

Will it also need a Dallas clock chip or does it already have a clock and
is that Mostec uart more trouble than my 16's z80sio?  It would be great
to see some C source for dealing with that interupt handling IO.  Please
reply or log to my Babel.


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INFO-CPM Digest             Sat, 27 Jun 92       Volume 92 : Issue   57

Today's Topics:
                   Extremely basic newbie questions
                     help with compupro (3 msgs)
                   Is there a good archiving tool ?
                        Re: help with compupro
              Televideo TPC II CP/M Portable PC For Sale
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Date: 27 Jun 92 04:06:17 GMT
From: portal!cup.portal.com!Chris_F_Chiesa@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Extremely basic newbie questions
Message-ID: <61164@cup.portal.com>

Hi.  I've been programming and using a variety of computers for at least
the last twelve years, but have never had occasion to become involved with
CP/M, until very recently the stars and planets aligned and, well, here I
am.  To wit, a friend's Commodore 128 has a "Z-80 side" that can run CP/M.  
I have a CP/M emulator for my Amiga.  We share a Z80 Microprocessor Reference 
Manual that I've had since 1982 and have used exactly once.  So we've both
got CP/M and a rudiment of Z80 programming reference, and we're curious what 
can be done with CP/M and how we might write programs for it.   Neither of us
currently know ANYTHING WHATSOEVER about CP/M except for its name and that 
"it's an operating system."

My questions, then, are these:

1) How does a person typically develop programs for CP/M?  What languages,
   makes/versions of text editors, compilers, and assemblers are there, and 
   is there any that's considered a "standard?"  Anything PD?
   
2) How would I go about placing any of these tools onto my Amiga CP/M emu-
   lator or my friend's C=128 "Z80 side"?  Again, are there any "standards?"
   Is everyone still using XMODEM, which I understand was developed under
   CP/M as a "standard" file transfer protocol, way back when.

3) What does the CP/M programming interface consist of?  I presume since
   "CP/M is an operating system," one makes calls to standard routines to
   perform I/O, set/get system/device/etc. information, and so on.  What 
   operations, and what kinds of operations, exist, and how does one access 
   them?

I don't really know enough to ask any more questions than these, but this 
is obviously just the tip of an iceberg.  I've already subscribed to
comp.os.cpm here, but Portal imposes a delay of a day or so before I can
actually use the newsreader on a new newsgroup, so if you reply to this be-
fore about June 28 I might not see it; please e-mail even if you also post.

 Thanks in advance,

    Chris Chiesa
      Chris_F_Chiesa@cup.portal.com

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Date: 27 Jun 92 05:56:45 GMT
From: uunet.ca!canrem!dosgate![paul.tucker%canrem.com]@uunet.uu.net  (paul tucker)
Subject: help with compupro
Message-ID: <1992Jun27.1042.2578@dosgate>

-> in <1992Jun21.050746.29457@wuecl.wustl.edu> Tony Leong sez about the
-> Compupro 816:

-> If anyone has manuals or documentation I'd gladly pay for a copy and
-> shipping.  I'd probably need a copy of the boot disks too.

  I worked on this type of system for a client for some time, and it was still
in operating condition when he shut it down.   I believe he has an 80 meg drive
installed along with tape backup.  There are also 5 Televideo 925 terminals
(if my memory is still intact)

  Send me your phone number and one of us will get Back to you with the
complete system specs, and availability of manuals, etc.


Cheers

Paul.Tucker@canrem.com or CIS 71520,571
---
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Date: 27 Jun 92 05:56:45 GMT
From: uunet.ca!canrem!dosgate![blair.groves%canrem.com]@uunet.uu.net  (blair groves)
Subject: help with compupro
Message-ID: <1992Jun27.1042.2579@dosgate>

Hi Paul, your message has to be pre-formatted to be read by the Usenet
Gateway, then it will make it onto The Internet. Like this:

the first line has the "to: user@host.site.organisation", then a blank
line after that, and then you can type your message.



Pretend the next line is really line #1.
to: paul.tucker@canrem.com

Beginning of your message text....




I wasn't too sure of it for a while, but after being reminded by other
users in the Usenet conferences, and getting reply mail back, it's
really useful. Oh yeah, you have to check conference 104 (usenet
replies), for messages that are sent to you directly as E-Mail, rather
than the others that you see here, that are News messages.

        /B/ .........TTYS!!
--
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World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044

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Date: 27 Jun 92 19:25:01 GMT
From: uunet.ca!canrem!dosgate![paul.tucker%canrem.com]@uunet.uu.net  (paul tucker)
Subject: help with compupro
Message-ID: <1992Jun27.1042.2583@dosgate>

Quite true for private mail, but I posted it as a public message.
That's the way it works for Usenet, but if this is Internet and the
rules are different, then that's something else altogether.

I'll ask the powers, and see.

Paul
--
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World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044

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Date: 26 Jun 92 19:11:34 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!mucs!cns!prg@uunet.uu.net  (Peter Green)
Subject: Is there a good archiving tool ?
Message-ID: <1992Jun26.191134.4687@cns.umist.ac.uk>

Is there a public domain archiving tool for CP/M that compresses files
as they are inserted in the archive ?  I am helping out a friend who
is starting out with a CP/M system but myself come from a DOS
background.

He is working on a system with a allocation blocksize of 4K and many
of his files are typically 3K of WordStar text and so he reaches the
directory entries limit of 128 files with only 30% of the disk used.

Thanks in advance.

Peter Green.



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Date: 28 Jun 92 04:37:11 GMT
From: world!bmarcum@decwrl.dec.com  (Bill Marcum)
Subject: Re: help with compupro
Message-ID: <BqJGtz.EEy@world.std.com>

In article <1992Jun27.1042.2583@dosgate> "paul tucker" <paul.tucker@canrem.com> writes:
>Quite true for private mail, but I posted it as a public message.
>That's the way it works for Usenet, but if this is Internet and the
>rules are different, then that's something else altogether.
>
Both of your messages made it onto the net, so you were right.  The "To:" line
is not needed.

Bill Marcum  bmarcum@world.std.com

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Date: 24 Jun 92 12:11:35 GMT
From: psinntp!arrl.org@uunet.uu.net  (Bart Jahnke)
Subject: Televideo TPC II CP/M Portable PC For Sale
Message-ID: <199@arrl.org>

I have a Televideo TPC II portable PC for sale.  It operates under
CP/M.

Has built-in amber monitor and two 342 kb 5.25" floppy drives,
all in a portable package (the keyboard attaches as a cover to 
close the unit for transport).

Comes with WORDSTAR, UNIFORM (disk read/write utility that permits 
reading and writing to IBM formatted diskettes) and other assorted
software.

*********   $195 or best offer   (shipping negotiable)   ***********

--Call me days at (203) 666-1541 x251 ask for Bart

or Email to "bjahnke@arrl.org"



73, 

Bart KB9NM

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* Member, National Conference of VECs Question Pool Committee
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* Contributing Editor - QST Magazine - Exam Info column
* On-the-air interests: VHF/UHF/SHF SSB/CW Weak Signal Operating and Contests

*eof

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